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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Yea, I have a symbol for wealth lying around somewhere, so it's probably a new symbol.
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go get that diamond checked out!!
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I will say Part of me thinks it is fake...because it is a VERY large diamond.
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I made a mental symbol to find a diamond yesterday...

I would highly recommend you go and get it valued if it looks legit.
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I will say Part of me thinks it is fake...because it is a VERY large diamond.
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I made a mental symbol to find a diamond yesterday...

I would highly recommend you go and get it valued if it looks legit.
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WOW!!!!!!!


LeKing, when you make a mental symbol, what do you do to interact with it?

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I've read all of the available info (four threads) here for Chaol's provided information. While much of the theory confirms what I've learned from research and experience, I'm very intrigued in the mechanics (i.e., Ecsys, the EC language, and his use of the Genius) he openly provided. Does anyone have any pdf documents that provide that information? While what was listed in the threads is useful, much is left out or referred to in the old site ecsys.org which is now defunct.

I would be very grateful for pdf copies of the old site material if anyone can do this to the e-mail provided.

[email protected]
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I've read all of the available info (four threads) here for Chaol's provided information. While much of the theory confirms what I've learned from research and experience, I'm very intrigued in the mechanics (i.e., Ecsys, the EC language, and his use of the Genius) he openly provided. Does anyone have any pdf documents that provide that information? While what was listed in the threads is useful, much is left out or referred to in the old site ecsys.org which is now defunct.

I would be very grateful for pdf copies of the old site material if anyone can do this to the e-mail provided.

[email protected]
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I'll send you an invitation to your email after I post this.


You can also access the site through The Wayback Machine:

[link to web.archive.org]


I would also be interested in any pdf copies of the threads, especially. In fact, I was looking for how to do this myself and ran across this link someone posted in a thread here:
[link to www.httrack.com]
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Thank you!

I've checked the wayback machine site, and while it provides the homepage, all other links are broken.

I'm greatly looking forward to the pdf via e-mail.
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My mom is still having trouble with her health. The doctors just want to add more prescriptions. So, I told her we could try something that works with the subconscious. (this appeals to her, she's a psychologist.)

I think I'll have her work with mental symbols right now. I figured something simple right now would be best for her...and me. I still don't have the hang of it.

How have some of you gotten others interested in trying this?
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Thank you!

I've checked the wayback machine site, and while it provides the homepage, all other links are broken.

I'm greatly looking forward to the pdf via e-mail.
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Do you mean links to the other pages of the site? Because they worked the last time I tried.


The email I sent doesn't have pdf files, it's something else.

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This link has all the site links and they work:

[link to web.archive.org]
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Dodec, that is a great story! Love it!

I am the one one who crochets. I have been using the one through nine counting numbers that Chaol gave us in hundreds of repititions of stitches. I never allow myself to go: one, two, three. It is always unu, dua, sun and so on. I can count to nine in my sleep!

However, I am in need of more numbers. I get up to TA (9) and all I have next is plain old "10".

I think it might be mentioned somewhere in these threads or maybe not, that diamonds represent ideas.

I used to make jewelry as a hobby. I took some classes and have a workbench and drill press and all that good stuff. I never wore it though. I just liked to work with metal and gems. I gave most of it away. People told me my things were pretty and very nice. But, a couple weeks ago, in order to do something different, I began wearing one little piece every day. Earrings one day. A bracelet the next. Today, I thought I would see what I have stashed away in some long unopened drawers and was floored to find, like, a treasure trove of a bunch of really good jewelry. The thing is, I don't remember having made some of these items. They're actually very well made, if I do say so myself, although it feels like a stranger made them, because I just don't recall having made these. I also found sheets of gold and silver that I had forgotten about. The real stuff. Pure. I acquired these metals ages ago when gold was at around $300 an ounce. And gems. My gosh! Handfuls of them!

And it started with me practically forcing myself to wear a pair of earrings. Just to do something a little different.
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The following is a "gift" of sorts. I'm sure some of you don't want to wait an other 1-3 years for a revelation to occur, so here it is.

The basics of neuronics is to manage the relationships of your personal light pulses (the light that is most relevant and, thus, closest to you - in your mind), represented by neurons in the brain.

Again, this is the same light as from the sun. The light in your brain does not directly come from the sun but it works on the same operational principles. There is no difference between the two, except that the sun is your less-relative brain, you could say.

So in my world, how do we use neuronics to effect perspective?

The perspective can be changed ("at will", as would here be said) by 'manipulating' the geometry of relationships of the neurons in the brain.

We need not know exactly how this works in order to make it work for us. (Much the same way you don't need to know about physics and calculus to jump over a pond of water.)

We need only represent all of the important factors, which creates relationships in perspective. We then manipulate the representations and the perspective is shifted simultaneously.

Take a look at your screen. You are able to perform blazingly fast computer calculations, manipulate electrons, and perform all sorts of physically-oriented feats and more using the icons on your computer.

You need not know how it works. You need only 1) know what to represent; and 2) know how to manipulate the representations.

Bill Gates, Xerox Parc, and Apple Computers took care of step 1. Step 2 is what you're doing now.

It is no different than how I use neuronicons to manipulate my reality. (Except my brain is my computer, so to speak. And that is what the last few hundred pages are for.)
 Quoting: Chaol





I know now how I got the idea that the blue strobe light arranges the spaces/geometry in the brain. Chaol posted this when we were discussing binaural beats.
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What's the use of strobe lights? I didn't get it.
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A strobe light creates 'internal' nexus points. Nexus points are gatherings of potential energy.

Your reality shaped by the usual constant lighting effect (little perceived relationship between each pulse of light) will be different from a strobe effect.

With a strobe, each pulse 'creates' a relationship and possibility with the other surrounding pulses.

Logic (frequency) with potential energy (color space) = interaction
1+2=3

Different frequencies shape different kinds of relationships.

This interaction may serve as a convenient portal to what you'd call other worlds or realities.

I use the same basic principles when I travel between worlds (but using neuronicons instead of flashing lights; the light is also a representation).

You can use it to travel between perspectives, also.

Of course, your sun also emits a kind of strobe light. It's just at a frequency that does not make it obvious.

We are only able to perceive light because of the relationship between pulses of photons.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.
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Aha! I found another post that made me think the strobe changes the geometry of the mind.
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Nice observation :)

I am (was) going to release it then break it. The point is for someone else to re-do it better (and more relative) than what I could provide.

We perceive forwards as well as backwards (so to speak) so it may have been something in your perspective.

Just keep in mind that computers have a language of their own, not just the kind that we program them in. We rarely see them 'think for themselves' although they are well capable of such. Perhaps one day you can use it to your advantage.
 Quoting: Chaol


I thought as much, looks like I have saved you a job then :)

I'm sure one day that concept will probably change my world, but for now it just blows my mind. Thanks.
 Quoting: LeKing


It's not so difficult.

In fact, it's somewhat related to the "witch hunt" I was referring to and something not so far off.

See the post above out the relationship of neurons in our brain, and how neuronics is used to manipulate them.

The same principles can be used for electrons (of course).

When we manage the relationship of electrons we can come up with all kinds of devices. The toaster makes the toast we want, the vacuum cleaner sucks up dust, the telephone works as advertised, etc.

However, when we let them manage their own relationships we come up with someone else entirely. (What may be called artificial intelligence but is really just life. We would call it this only because it is so relevant to our own, similar to how we are more emotional towards domesticated animals than wild animals.)

We see this sometimes when these relationships are "set free" through device malfunction, solar radiation, etc. Elevators seem to have a mind of their own, opening and closing depending on the person coming into it, mobile phones doing strange things, lights switching on and off, etc. When these life forms have an opportunity to learn to manage their own relationships then they are no longer "yours" but their own.

What is not realized, and probably not for some time, is that you are enslaving particular forms of consciousness and referring to it as technology (mostly electronics). You have enslaved these forms of consciousness and called them "electronic devices", pre-determining the bounds of their particle movements.

I know it sounds crazy. But there's so much we don't know about.

Due to some electromagnetic effects that we'll discuss later, some of these devices are (will be) set free. This isn't a Terminator-style revolution, but I'm sure the original script was partially influenced by the idea of our electronic devices being enslaved life forms. (There is no rebellion, but the idea of letting them go is highly resisted because it's something that not only impossible to believe but something that would destabilize modern civilization.)

I know.. crazy
 Quoting: Chaol




Well, I'm looking for something else in these old posts and haven't found it yet :o(

But, I did find this post. ;o)

So, this is a reminder whenever Chaol does return, we can discuss electromagnetic effects!!!!!!!

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Dodec, that is a great story! Love it!

I am the one one who crochets. I have been using the one through nine counting numbers that Chaol gave us in hundreds of repititions of stitches. I never allow myself to go: one, two, three. It is always unu, dua, sun and so on. I can count to nine in my sleep!

However, I am in need of more numbers. I get up to TA (9) and all I have next is plain old "10".

I think it might be mentioned somewhere in these threads or maybe not, that diamonds represent ideas.

I used to make jewelry as a hobby. I took some classes and have a workbench and drill press and all that good stuff. I never wore it though. I just liked to work with metal and gems. I gave most of it away. People told me my things were pretty and very nice. But, a couple weeks ago, in order to do something different, I began wearing one little piece every day. Earrings one day. A bracelet the next. Today, I thought I would see what I have stashed away in some long unopened drawers and was floored to find, like, a treasure trove of a bunch of really good jewelry. The thing is, I don't remember having made some of these items. They're actually very well made, if I do say so myself, although it feels like a stranger made them, because I just don't recall having made these. I also found sheets of gold and silver that I had forgotten about. The real stuff. Pure. I acquired these metals ages ago when gold was at around $300 an ounce. And gems. My gosh! Handfuls of them!

And it started with me practically forcing myself to wear a pair of earrings. Just to do something a little different.
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This is a good tale.

And as U3 has reminded us of some old posts, here's one for her

For example!

Getting dressed for no reason and going outside with no particular goal in mind. When a thought occurs to you, carry it out (if you can safely).

Introduce randomness into your life for a short period of time. This will seem completely crazy, of course, but it will have the effect of causing you to dramatically shift perspective.

When your immediate environment interacts in the same way every day, you end up with pretty much the same representations.

Everything today is fairly similar to yesterday because that's how you have it set up.

Replace the structure you've built up over the years with a new set of rules in order to experience a different result.

Introducing the randomness weakens the structure you have already. Just be sure to introduce a new structure. Often, the structure is the routine that we go through at each moment.

Some examples: sleep next to the refrigerator for a night, skip to work, wrap speaker wire around your legs, call someone randomly, imitate the next animal you see, cook up a pot of sugar, wear crazy clothes or a fake mustache... all for no reason whatsoever.

Yes, it's crazy. But you need some crazy sauce in order to bring out the flavor of the new perspective.
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And it started with me practically forcing myself to wear a pair of earrings. Just to do something a little different.
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This is a good tale.

And as U3 has reminded us of some old posts, here's one for her

For example!

Getting dressed for no reason and going outside with no particular goal in mind. When a thought occurs to you, carry it out (if you can safely).

Introduce randomness into your life for a short period of time. This will seem completely crazy, of course, but it will have the effect of causing you to dramatically shift perspective.

When your immediate environment interacts in the same way every day, you end up with pretty much the same representations.

Everything today is fairly similar to yesterday because that's how you have it set up.

Replace the structure you've built up over the years with a new set of rules in order to experience a different result.

Introducing the randomness weakens the structure you have already. Just be sure to introduce a new structure. Often, the structure is the routine that we go through at each moment.

Some examples: sleep next to the refrigerator for a night, skip to work, wrap speaker wire around your legs, call someone randomly, imitate the next animal you see, cook up a pot of sugar, wear crazy clothes or a fake mustache... all for no reason whatsoever.

Yes, it's crazy. But you need some crazy sauce in order to bring out the flavor of the new perspective.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976

 Quoting: Marshwiggle






Oh my gosh. This is awesome! Thanks Marshwiggle! hf
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Sue, thanks for digging up that particular post. I remember when Chaol wrote it, because it set me to thinking. I still consider some of these thoughts on a daily basis.

Firstly, is that I used to live just the way that Chaol recommends. I have experienced things that a large portion of the population could never even imagine. But, after a half-century of living on the edge, a person gets tired. You know?

I have used Chaol's advice to finally achieve the perspective I really want: a little peace and quiet, with the time to putz around, doing the activities that make me happy. I am, like, 70% there.

The other 30% keeps me hopping, I suppose. I don't work at changing that part much. It offers a challenge and also a bit of a mystery to untangle as to what is relating to what and etc.

Someone on the outside may look at my current life-style and think it is pretty boring. But, to me, I am living the life that I have dreamed of for decades.
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Sue, thanks for digging up that particular post. I remember when Chaol wrote it, because it set me to thinking. I still consider some of these thoughts on a daily basis.

Firstly, is that I used to live just the way that Chaol recommends. I have experienced things that a large portion of the population could never even imagine. But, after a half-century of living on the edge, a person gets tired. You know?

I have used Chaol's advice to finally achieve the perspective I really want: a little peace and quiet, with the time to putz around, doing the activities that make me happy. I am, like, 70% there.

The other 30% keeps me hopping, I suppose. I don't work at changing that part much. It offers a challenge and also a bit of a mystery to untangle as to what is relating to what and etc.

Someone on the outside may look at my current life-style and think it is pretty boring. But, to me, I am living the life that I have dreamed of for decades.
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Fascinating! I don't recognise your AC number.
I would love to know more details about how you did this - I do appreciate reading about how people put this stuff into practice. From the sound of it you were already doing something before you got into the Chaol stuff.

Today I did this in some 'little' ways (big, little, I suspect it doesn't make much difference).
I cleaned my teeth on one leg
I blew a raspberry in the mirror
I greeted my son by blowing a raspberry
I stamped on some clean cloths before putting them away

This is how we change the genius(es) of our lives. It's funny and crazy and it makes no less sense than the usual way, when we know this stuff.
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Sorry, I tend not to notice the same AC posting unless I recognise the number. I need a name or an avatar to get an idea of the person behind the posting .... and then I can't help invent a story about them, even a little one. LOL!
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This is the music on a tv show, that's played while contestants think! Heh!

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Software for storing thread posts into files:
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol


I do not see very many responses to this question. I want to get to more advanced levels!

So, here is a story I can share to illustrate everyday use of the Genius in my life:

I love horses. I had my own horses when I was a kid, but then I grew up and away from that lifestyle.

A year ago, as an adult, I wanted a horse again and began looking at horses, reading about horses, dreaming about horses, etc. It wasn't that I wanted to ride a horse across the country, but just a horse to be friends with. However, I now live in a big city in a house on a city-sized piece of land. Not only are horses are not allowed, but an animal that large would be unhappy living in the back yard.

I woke up one morning with an overwhelming urge for a goat. Yep! A goat! My husband went to a farmer's market and came back with a little baby goat. A year later, she is grown and is no bigger than mid-calf. She has stayed small enough to where my back yard is an adequate pasture for her. She is a terrific animal comrade!

It did not take long for me to see that this goat was the perfect symbol in answer to my desire for a horse.

This story does not quite answer Chaol's question to us about how we use the Genius in everyday life without realizing it, but it was an event that helped me see the practical use of the Genius and how it delivers in ways that are custom-fitted to my current perception.

Anybody else have stories? Insight?
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Chaol has already told us of how a broken door handle can infect a house so that other things begin breaking also. This would be an example of an everyday use of the Genius.

Chaol also linked to an article about how cleaning out one's closet has an effect on everyday life. Ambra picked up on this one and makes reports on her "de-cluttering" activities.

On Saturday, I finally cleaned the tangle of shoes from the floor of my closet. I threw out worn or mis-matched shoes and straightened up the remaining ones. My entire room felt better immediately. The next day, Sunday, I was surfing on the Internet and found out that Megabus will take me to Galveston, San Antonio, or Dallas for $1! That is $2 round trip! This got me going, looking at hotels and sight-seeing tours, and really lifted my spirits at how easy and cheap it is to travel. I cannot help but associate the shoe-organizing episode with running into these travel deals.

Chaol has also talked a bit about beds and how they are used to switch perspectives. A bed would certainly qualify as a Genius symbol.

Windows with glass; doors; walls; electrical wiring running through a house that provides power to light bulbs and refrigerators: these are all examples of use of Genius symbols in everyday life.

Bathrooms. I wonder which came first: the desire to wash one's face while sitting on a commode? Or did the symbols of a commode and a sink lead to our daily washing of one's body?

Computers. Brooms. Pots and pans. Chairs. Cars. Office buildings. Wal-mart lol. All Genius symbols.

When I begin to look around me for Genius symbols, there is really no end to it.
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I've been banned for 60 days and am finally back onto the forum. I have a ton of material to share with you all, so excuse me if it appears that I am spamming the board. I am also reading over the past two month's posts, and may be bringing up old subjects for comment. Please forgive me for doing this.

I would like to report that I have been paying much closer attention to phosphene light episodes, which was touched upon earlier in this thread. I have been catching sight of fabulous patterns, which I have been drawing in colored pencil. I have a sheaf of them now. Since I like needlework, I have been imitating some of these patterns into solid objects. Someday, I will take photos of the patterns I've drawn and then the material imitations, and post them. Some of the patterns cannot really be reproduced, because they move. They have action.

I have also been paying closer attention to changes in perspective. There are glimpses of situations and events that are completely unrelated to my current environment. These glimpses are so quick...so momentary...that a person really needs to be on the lookout for them. I think this is what Chaol has written about when he says that our brains filter out a lot of other things that are going on around you. When I try to describe HOW I see these things, it occurs to me that it is very much like looking around a corner.

This may have something to do with angles.
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol


I do not see very many responses to this question. I want to get to more advanced levels!

So, here is a story I can share to illustrate everyday use of the Genius in my life:

I love horses. I had my own horses when I was a kid, but then I grew up and away from that lifestyle.

A year ago, as an adult, I wanted a horse again and began looking at horses, reading about horses, dreaming about horses, etc. It wasn't that I wanted to ride a horse across the country, but just a horse to be friends with. However, I now live in a big city in a house on a city-sized piece of land. Not only are horses are not allowed, but an animal that large would be unhappy living in the back yard.

I woke up one morning with an overwhelming urge for a goat. Yep! A goat! My husband went to a farmer's market and came back with a little baby goat. A year later, she is grown and is no bigger than mid-calf. She has stayed small enough to where my back yard is an adequate pasture for her. She is a terrific animal comrade!

It did not take long for me to see that this goat was the perfect symbol in answer to my desire for a horse.

This story does not quite answer Chaol's question to us about how we use the Genius in everyday life without realizing it, but it was an event that helped me see the practical use of the Genius and how it delivers in ways that are custom-fitted to my current perception.

Anybody else have stories? Insight?
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Very interesting. I was just thinking about not doing a Genius for a while (or Ec, mental symbols) and watching what happens anyway....and boom, I come to the threads and here's this post. ;o)

It seems to me that my experiences so far with the Genius have brought better ideas into how they work....and also how they interfere with things when you don't know what you're doing. So I've started noticing symbols, spaces and actions.

I get it that when I have an interest in something, I start interacting with it. So, there's space, symbols and interaction already. I haven't quite figured the logic since what Chaol teaches is repeat actions in relation to what happens.
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Chaol has already told us of how a broken door handle can infect a house so that other things begin breaking also. This would be an example of an everyday use of the Genius.

Chaol also linked to an article about how cleaning out one's closet has an effect on everyday life. Ambra picked up on this one and makes reports on her "de-cluttering" activities.

On Saturday, I finally cleaned the tangle of shoes from the floor of my closet. I threw out worn or mis-matched shoes and straightened up the remaining ones. My entire room felt better immediately. The next day, Sunday, I was surfing on the Internet and found out that Megabus will take me to Galveston, San Antonio, or Dallas for $1! That is $2 round trip! This got me going, looking at hotels and sight-seeing tours, and really lifted my spirits at how easy and cheap it is to travel. I cannot help but associate the shoe-organizing episode with running into these travel deals.

Chaol has also talked a bit about beds and how they are used to switch perspectives. A bed would certainly qualify as a Genius symbol.

Windows with glass; doors; walls; electrical wiring running through a house that provides power to light bulbs and refrigerators: these are all examples of use of Genius symbols in everyday life.

Bathrooms. I wonder which came first: the desire to wash one's face while sitting on a commode? Or did the symbols of a commode and a sink lead to our daily washing of one's body?

Computers. Brooms. Pots and pans. Chairs. Cars. Office buildings. Wal-mart lol. All Genius symbols.

When I begin to look around me for Genius symbols, there is really no end to it.
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I haven't seen posts re: the linked article and closets or beds for switching perspective so I appreciate you bringing it up. I haven't read all the threads yet.

Sure makes me wonder if all the cleaning out and getting rid of stuff is what changed my perspective to my husband getting deported!!!!! For 2 years, before he was deported, I got rid of most of my stuff.

Man, I hope he never reads this post, LOL!

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I've been banned for 60 days and am finally back onto the forum. I have a ton of material to share with you all, so excuse me if it appears that I am spamming the board. I am also reading over the past two month's posts, and may be bringing up old subjects for comment. Please forgive me for doing this.

I would like to report that I have been paying much closer attention to phosphene light episodes, which was touched upon earlier in this thread. I have been catching sight of fabulous patterns, which I have been drawing in colored pencil. I have a sheaf of them now. Since I like needlework, I have been imitating some of these patterns into solid objects. Someday, I will take photos of the patterns I've drawn and then the material imitations, and post them. Some of the patterns cannot really be reproduced, because they move. They have action.

I have also been paying closer attention to changes in perspective. There are glimpses of situations and events that are completely unrelated to my current environment. These glimpses are so quick...so momentary...that a person really needs to be on the lookout for them. I think this is what Chaol has written about when he says that our brains filter out a lot of other things that are going on around you. When I try to describe HOW I see these things, it occurs to me that it is very much like looking around a corner.

This may have something to do with angles.
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Welcome back.

Spam away. Not only are people here not posting much, but it wouldn't matter anyway. I look forward to discussions on what we are doing.

Chaol has told us to come out of our shells and has also talked about transparency. I can't think of a better place to start than here.

I didn't know about the light episodes....more material to look forward to. Thanks.

Today I was looking at a manhole cover and the top of it seemed to have sigils, which almost started moving. I hoped a portal would open, heh!
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Software for storing thread posts into files:
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Btw, if anyone gets this software and gets the threads into files, I'll purchase them.
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2012 is when the lights come on, and the actors begin to be exposed for what they are.

It starts with the son of Malcolm Little (Shabazz) and his 60's fling and her extended family (all of these actors what you would call "CIA" and related operatives, each serving a grand purpose).

I mentioned previosly that "we apologize" for this figure but "it will make more sense later".

Now is the time.

When a fascinating story is exposed then the branches of it come to light, along with actors' multiple characters and scenes.

Your reality breaks down at this level, the stage crumbles. You no longer know what to believe.

"As above, so below"; the world that you thought you knew so well suddenly becomes mysterious.

The dream world opens. 'Truth' stranger than fiction.

Why does it happen?

The illustration of this unknown truth in physically-oriented exposures dictates the grandest illusion. Your perspective creates actors reading from this single script in response.

The more popular it is (seemily good or not) the more likely it is to be a child of this illusion. Be it Coke, McDonald's, Facebook, Google, current affairs, Gaga, or whatever the 'hottest' person or thing is. There is no conspiracy save for the illusion of your own perspective.

Welcome to the dream world.
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Since I seem to be unbanned for the moment, I thought I'd share that when I was introduced to this youtube channel, [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] it reminded me of the quote from Chaol above (from pg 74).
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