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Message Subject Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Excerpts from:

The Temple in Man
R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz

What are gods?

Science becomes mythology in an other perspective.

Are we not exploring physics by telling the story of the gods? Some express ideas in numbers, some in stories. But each is built from relationships. And cultures explore relationships in different ways.

We wonder of the ancients wit but see their math as a religion or a mythology.
 Quoting: Chaol

"That these ancient peoples thought differently than we do—and that we must understand this difference if we are to study them properly—seems obvious, but an example will show how difficult it is to put this idea into practice. Schwaller de Lubicz explains in Le Temple de l'Homme (Caracteres, 1957) that in the ancient temple civilization of Egypt, numbers, our most ancient form of symbol, did not simply designate quantities but instead were considered to be concrete definitions of energetic formative principles of nature. The Egyptians called these energetic principles Neters, a word which is conventionally rendered as 'gods'."

Then, you may be pleasantly surprised by the mathematics of the new world. As far as I can tell, it appears that numbers represent concepts, and those numbers/concepts relate to each other. Numbers in the new world are not used to count and measure things so much as they are used according to their relationships with each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315

"In considering the esoteric meaning of Number, we must avoid the following mistake: Two is not One and One; it is not a composite. It is the multiplying Work; it is the notion of the plus in relation to the minus; it is a new Unity; it is sexuality; it is the origin of Nature.

Physis, the Neter Two. It is the Culmination (the separating moment of the full moon, for example); it is the line, the stick, movement, the way, Wotan, Odin, the Meter Thoth, Mercury, Spirit."

Chaol's "X"
Some legends are of a red dragon such as Nibiru. This serpent form also represents the dream world. The "planet of the crossing" can be thought of as crossing over into the dream world, not just crossing your orbit.

If you read some of your 'ancient' texts in this light they would make a lot more sense.
 Quoting: Chaol

"Also, when the ancients considered the process of mathematical multiplication, their mode of calculation had a direct relationship with natural life processes as well as metaphysical ones. Schwaller de Lubicz called this mode the "principle of the crossing" (interestingly, we today continue to symbolize multiplication with the sign of a cross: X). This crossing was not a sterile, mental, numerical manipulation but a symbol for the process by which things enter into corporeal existence. All birth into nature requires a crossing of opposites. It can be the crossing of vertical and horizontal lines, which give birth to the square, the first measurable surface; or male and female, giving birth to a new individual; or warp and weft, creating a fabric; or light, and darkness, giving birth to tangible forms; or matter and spirit, giving birth to life itself. Thus the vital linking up of the mental abstraction of calculation with its counterpart in natural phenomena gave the ancient mathematician a living and philosophic basis for his science."
 
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