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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Hi, all.

Just a note...

Apps will continue to be released when I am gone. I will still be 'here' in a sense. All questions will be answered, but not in the usual way during this time.

3 are in production. The first (the game) is nearly done. The next is the Magic Mirror of Chaos, then comes the Ec translation tool.

2013 is approaching, but you have much more time than you think. Time is becoming more abstract, along with the world in which it operates.

"2012" is just a primer.

The problem with the future is that we can't see how things are done. It is 'different' from how we currently do things.
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Nice!!
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Lol I'm being a pest, i know, but where are you going for a year if you wouldn't mind answering?

Best Regards,

Mateo
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As previously mentioned, this world and the dream world are rapidly converging.

Perhaps you feel it or may be you see it happening around you.

I'm just going to be moving rapidly back and forth between the two worlds to further accelerate the process from my perspective.

The best way to tell you about Ecsys and what it's talking about is to show you. So now I am showing you in ways that most of you cannot imagine.

By this time next year, you will be living mostly in a dream.

It's not so much that I will come back in 2012 as you will come to where I am in 2013. (2012 is only significant in a way that it is pretty darn close to 2013, to answer an other person's post.)

I'll still be partially here for short periods of time (not months, but perhaps bursts of minutes or hours at a time).

(To an other poster: Yes, I'm in Japan right now. I'm "on holiday" and it's where the future begins.)

Thanks, to all who believe in what I write about. I am confident in what I experience all the time, so don't really have the need to prove myself in the ways you would expect.

What I am doing is the unexpected. It is future. By the time I'm finished you won't know what hit you ;)

To those that think this is all b.s., you're right (from your perspective). Until, that is, your perspective changes and what I am talking about becomes more obvious.

X is coming. Are you ready?

More to come...
 Quoting: Chaol





WOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOW! ^^^^^^^ Maybe the reason Chaol will be different is we will be face to face, finally!!!!!

Oboy, is this exciting!!!! rockon
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Greetings all,

So Chaol, are you really leaving for a year??

No offense, but it just seems like such a big waste of time. Many people on this thread have been trying their hardest to understand what you teach. Leaving for a year leaves limited time to learn the rest of ecsys before "this world merges with the dream world," as you said.

I'm not at all trying to tell you what to do but this situation is similar to a bird abandoning her young before they learn to fly.

Cheers

Mateo
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We must separate the teaching from the teacher.

Everything is there already.
I am just a finger pointing the way, not the key to the destination.

When we confuse one with the other, we lose sight of the 'message'.
 Quoting: Chaol




Funny. Two years ago, they were waiting, waiting for Chaol's return. Here's what he said when he got back..^^^^^^ and it's very relevant for us now.

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Hello Chaol,

Would you care to explain DNA now before you go away for a year?

And also, can you explain what you meant by their isn't a full definition of gravity yet?

I'm very interested in the answers of all the questions I've asked thus far. Thanks for your time.

Cheers,

Mateo
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DNA, the brain of the physical body, will be explained in time.

Regarding gravity, I say there isn't a full definition of it because here we think of it in scientific terms. Objects with mass attracting one-another, etc. We will learn that the definition of gravity is much more broad and also includes non-gravity (or repulsion, if you will).

There is a strong relation between gravity and consciousness.
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I hope he covers this pretty soon.


Here's something about gravity in a thread I started:
Thread: Bermuda Triangle, Dragon's Triangle, 4 Corners of the Earth:Is there a correlation?

Earth Has Four Corners.”

Quoting from this article, which was recovered from microfilm at the Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak Library, we read the following: “The Earth has four corners, measurements made of earth-circling satellites have shown…The four-cornered, or pyramid-like, design was found by calculating the changes in the orbits of globe-girdling satellites. At the center of the high points, the satellites were pulled downward a few hundred feet by the unexpectedly high gravity…The new figure for earth was found by scientists at John Hopkin’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Silver Spring, Md., working under a contract for the U.S. Navy’s Bureau of Naval Weapons.”

The report included a world map that shows all four of the Earth’s high corners are located in the Earth’s oceans and that there are also four low spots, which are additionally found in the vast oceans. Each of the high spots covers several thousand square miles of ocean and were a staggering 220 feet “higher” than what the equalized average depth of the ocean should be in that area. The low points on the other hand are apx. 253 feet “below” [what should be] the stabilized oceans average.

The perplexing question is, “What is holding back these seething mountains of water from rushing to fill the low spots?”

The basic understanding of gravity demands that these elevated waters respond to its downward pull.



I also found a map to the 4 Corners:
[link to www.cuttingedge.org]

The above map (while not an exact copy of the map produced by the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory) shows the approximate location of the earth’s four s. The high points on the globe are marked by the red indicator squares, and the low points are marked by the yellow indicator squares. If the prevailing winds causing this effect were suddenly eliminated, the higher waters would crash into the lower points. This scenario would certainly be especially disastrous for both the east and west coasts of the United States. Flooding would be extreme all along the Eastern Seaboard, and much life would be lost.
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Lol I'm being a pest, i know, but where are you going for a year if you wouldn't mind answering?

Best Regards,

Mateo
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You're not a pest, friend. I was wondering the same thing, too, but you just said it first. And why the return in 2012? What is the significance of that time frame?
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The significance of 2012 is that it's pretty close to 2013.

Things start getting kinda hot in about 2 years and 2 months from now.
 Quoting: Chaol




That would be 3/26/13!!!!!!!!!! I'd say he called that right!
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More questions..

How does moving back and forth between two worlds accelerate the process as you stated?

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It accelerates the process because it more significantly relates one kind of experience or perception to an other. The Earth that I am in now (yours) is more affected by the changes in my perspective.

It's like dipping your straw quickly from one drink to an other. Do it often enough and you're mixing your drinks while keeping them separate.

And why is Japan where the future begins?

 Quoting: Mateo


It's more like the future of Earth than anywhere else I know. Except that technology makes us more honest rather than just a tool of necessity.

"Thanks, to all who believe in what I write about. I am confident in what I experience all the time, so don't really have the need to prove myself in the ways you would expect."

That's quoting you, the way you wrote it makes it seem like mostly all people don't believe in you. But what about the people from your "alternate reality"? Do they use the same things you use? Do they change worlds all the time just to experience new things? Why do the people of your world understand the concepts so easily but people here do not?

 Quoting: Mateo


Different perspectives are always difficult to imagine. So kudos to anyone that tries or at least thinks it's possible.

What sort of things are you referring to? (that people in my other reality use)

Most don't change worlds often. It's kind of like how most people here just stick to the same couple of websites.

And what is X? Did you mean Ecsys? Please elaborate on this one lol. And how do I know if I'm ready for it or not?

Cheers,

Mateo
 Quoting: Mateo


X = X system = Exist = Ecsys = Elementon/Chaon System = Planet X = other things I won't mention (too religious)

You won't know if you're ready or not. You actually have all the time in the world to prepare. An hour of insight can be as valuable as a century of preparation.
 Quoting: Chaol




The future of Earth is like Japan? I find this really interesting because I just finished reading a book by Berlitz. He brings out a supernatural aspect to Japan that I wasn't aware of.

There are stories of how they were protected in wars, supernaturally. And in one war, which is depicted in ancient manuscripts, the warriors of the opposing army that died, looks like their faces on crabs that are found in the area where the war was fought.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]


I'm not sure what he means about the technology being honest? And what's that bit about if he goes further with his explanation, it will be too religious? There sure are a lot of things he doesn't tell us, lol!
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We can all help each other.
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In Chaol's absence, it appears that we will need to rely on each other. No more hand-holding by our sensei.

We could probably begin that process by simply sharing observations with each other. If we get going on the wrong track, maybe Chaol will "pop in" and set us straight.

Otherwise, it looks like we're being let go to fend for ourselves with just an itty bit of learning. We're going to have to figure out the rest for ourselves. Which may not be such a bad thing after all.

Let's keep the thread going. I already have some things to add, but I'll save it for later.
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:)
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Aha! Maybe Chaol is waiting for us to quit waiting on him. What do you think??????
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We can all help each other.
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In Chaol's absence, it appears that we will need to rely on each other. No more hand-holding by our sensei.

We could probably begin that process by simply sharing observations with each other. If we get going on the wrong track, maybe Chaol will "pop in" and set us straight.

Otherwise, it looks like we're being let go to fend for ourselves with just an itty bit of learning. We're going to have to figure out the rest for ourselves. Which may not be such a bad thing after all.

Let's keep the thread going. I already have some things to add, but I'll save it for later.
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:)
 Quoting: Chaol





Aha! Maybe Chaol is waiting for us to quit waiting on him. What do you think??????
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I don't think Chaol is the "waiting" type.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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In Chaol's absence, it appears that we will need to rely on each other. No more hand-holding by our sensei.

We could probably begin that process by simply sharing observations with each other. If we get going on the wrong track, maybe Chaol will "pop in" and set us straight.

Otherwise, it looks like we're being let go to fend for ourselves with just an itty bit of learning. We're going to have to figure out the rest for ourselves. Which may not be such a bad thing after all.

Let's keep the thread going. I already have some things to add, but I'll save it for later.
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:)
 Quoting: Chaol





Aha! Maybe Chaol is waiting for us to quit waiting on him. What do you think??????
 Quoting: U3


I don't think Chaol is the "waiting" type.
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I feel he watches us. Remember how he kept checking on us before he left for good, this time?

I'm not sure for what purpose except what he has expressed....building the bridge "in a certain way"...whatever that means.

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I remember Chaol saying something about we bring places to us, rather than 'go' there. This would apply to Space and Time - we don't travel through time, we bring a 'past' or 'future' to us.

I realised that the Internet serves to show us how to do this, using Genius Logic. I pluck a recipe out of thin air. I bring onto my kitchen table a peregrine on her eggs in 'realtime'. I chat with people apparently on the other side of the ocean.

We are able to do all this anyway, but need the internet and its funny logic steps, at the moment so we can make sense of it.
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Check it out, 2 computer talking to each other...
Thread: The New Search Engines - Better Than Google
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I chat with people apparently on the other side of the ocean.
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And how about the way we can chat with people who are "not from around here"? I have run into many "others" on the Internet. It is so cool the way we can do that.
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I noticed on this page Chaol mentions a pronunciation chart that can be downloaded. Does anyone have a copy?

[link to web.archive.org]

NVM, I found it:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]

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I noticed on this page Chaol mentions a pronunciation chart that can be downloaded. Does anyone have a copy?

[link to web.archive.org]

NVM, I found it:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Etiop




Use the language chart and the 4 forces chart together, and I think it will be easier to understand. The 4 forces is the chart with symbol at the top, interaction (in yellow) on the right, possibility on the bottom and logic on the left in green. Just scroll down from the 4 forces chart to the language chart (at that link) and you'll see it.

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I noticed on this page Chaol mentions a pronunciation chart that can be downloaded. Does anyone have a copy?

[link to web.archive.org]

NVM, I found it:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]
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Use the language chart and the 4 forces chart together, and I think it will be easier to understand. The 4 forces is the chart with symbol at the top, interaction (in yellow) on the right, possibility on the bottom and logic on the left in green. Just scroll down from the 4 forces chart to the language chart (at that link) and you'll see it.
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Thanks. I'm trying. I have no idea why the icon for "oo" in TOO is different from "oo" in BOOK.

The input is identical. The pronunciation is the same. But the output is different.I don't understand why or how. Do you?

Why is the underlined portion of a word included in the pronunciation while others are ignored. For instance, why is AMERICA pronounced AA? The icon is +S,I. How does one determine that word has a HIGH symbol and NEUTRAL interaction?

I'll have to dig through this thread later today. Chaol gave some info about this earlier in the thread. I just can't remember which page at the moment.

I want to make better sense of the language this weekend. Then create a Genius.
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I noticed on this page Chaol mentions a pronunciation chart that can be downloaded. Does anyone have a copy?

[link to web.archive.org]

NVM, I found it:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]
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Use the language chart and the 4 forces chart together, and I think it will be easier to understand. The 4 forces is the chart with symbol at the top, interaction (in yellow) on the right, possibility on the bottom and logic on the left in green. Just scroll down from the 4 forces chart to the language chart (at that link) and you'll see it.
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Thanks. I'm trying. I have no idea why the icon for "oo" in TOO is different from "oo" in BOOK.

The input is identical. The pronunciation is the same. But the output is different.I don't understand why or how. Do you?

Why is the underlined portion of a word included in the pronunciation while others are ignored. For instance, why is AMERICA pronounced AA? The icon is +S,I. How does one determine that word has a HIGH symbol and NEUTRAL interaction?

I'll have to dig through this thread later today. Chaol gave some info about this earlier in the thread. I just can't remember which page at the moment.

I want to make better sense of the language this weekend. Then create a Genius.
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I'm pretty sure Chaol sees the pronunciation differently. When I write a string, I do this: (B)oo(k) to help me get a sense of how it's supposed to be spoken, until I get it. I don't worry about the rest.

The underlined portion is how it's spoken. The language is what I would call guttral.

Determining the outputs, etc, is mostly intuitive.

Here is a link where Chaol tells a way to start:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]


And here's Dodec's post on input/outputs:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]


Btw, somewhere in here, Chaol says start with the Genius and don't worry about the language. He says if we understand the Genius, the language will be easier.

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I noticed on this page Chaol mentions a pronunciation chart that can be downloaded. Does anyone have a copy?

[link to web.archive.org]

NVM, I found it:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Etiop




Use the language chart and the 4 forces chart together, and I think it will be easier to understand. The 4 forces is the chart with symbol at the top, interaction (in yellow) on the right, possibility on the bottom and logic on the left in green. Just scroll down from the 4 forces chart to the language chart (at that link) and you'll see it.
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Thanks. I'm trying. I have no idea why the icon for "oo" in TOO is different from "oo" in BOOK.

The input is identical. The pronunciation is the same. But the output is different.I don't understand why or how. Do you?

Why is the underlined portion of a word included in the pronunciation while others are ignored. For instance, why is AMERICA pronounced AA? The icon is +S,I. How does one determine that word has a HIGH symbol and NEUTRAL interaction?

I'll have to dig through this thread later today. Chaol gave some info about this earlier in the thread. I just can't remember which page at the moment.

I want to make better sense of the language this weekend. Then create a Genius.
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I'm pretty sure Chaol sees the pronunciation differently. When I write a string, I do this: (B)oo(k) to help me get a sense of how it's supposed to be spoken, until I get it. I don't worry about the rest.

The underlined portion is how it's spoken. The language is what I would call guttral.

Determining the outputs, etc, is mostly intuitive.

Here is a link where Chaol tells a way to start:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]


And here's Dodec's post on input/outputs:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]


Btw, somewhere in here, Chaol says start with the Genius and don't worry about the language. He says if we understand the Genius, the language will be easier.
 Quoting: U3


That's very helpful.

This statement in your first link describes the problem I'm having: Ec works differently than other natural languages because of how it can be used. It is a very personal language because it has to do with perception. Maybe I'm not suppose to understand why someone else would assign certain values to an icon? The language gets it's meaning from MY perceptions? I dunno.

Working on The Genius until I have a better grasp of things sounds like a pretty good idea at this point (LOL).
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Use the language chart and the 4 forces chart together, and I think it will be easier to understand. The 4 forces is the chart with symbol at the top, interaction (in yellow) on the right, possibility on the bottom and logic on the left in green. Just scroll down from the 4 forces chart to the language chart (at that link) and you'll see it.
 Quoting: U3


Thanks. I'm trying. I have no idea why the icon for "oo" in TOO is different from "oo" in BOOK.

The input is identical. The pronunciation is the same. But the output is different.I don't understand why or how. Do you?

Why is the underlined portion of a word included in the pronunciation while others are ignored. For instance, why is AMERICA pronounced AA? The icon is +S,I. How does one determine that word has a HIGH symbol and NEUTRAL interaction?

I'll have to dig through this thread later today. Chaol gave some info about this earlier in the thread. I just can't remember which page at the moment.

I want to make better sense of the language this weekend. Then create a Genius.
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I'm pretty sure Chaol sees the pronunciation differently. When I write a string, I do this: (B)oo(k) to help me get a sense of how it's supposed to be spoken, until I get it. I don't worry about the rest.

The underlined portion is how it's spoken. The language is what I would call guttral.

Determining the outputs, etc, is mostly intuitive.

Here is a link where Chaol tells a way to start:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]


And here's Dodec's post on input/outputs:
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]


Btw, somewhere in here, Chaol says start with the Genius and don't worry about the language. He says if we understand the Genius, the language will be easier.
 Quoting: U3


That's very helpful.

This statement in your first link describes the problem I'm having: Ec works differently than other natural languages because of how it can be used. It is a very personal language because it has to do with perception. Maybe I'm not suppose to understand why someone else would assign certain values to an icon? The language gets it's meaning from MY perceptions? I dunno.

Working on The Genius until I have a better grasp of things sounds like a pretty good idea at this point (LOL).
 Quoting: Etiop




I know the feeling, lol! The language is your personal language but can also be used to communicate with others, but it is less personal or descriptive when you do that with it.

When you find a string that works good, then it can be used. You put a box around it but no need to get into that, yet. I don't think most of us here are ready for this, anyway.

Here's a blog on the Genius plans
[link to perceptionmap.blogspot.com]

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Ha! Remember Chaol talking about Tetris? (I think he had it on a website at one time or something like that. I remember he gave links to the music in a post here.)

Anyway, this study show it changes the memory in the mind (by changing the spaces...sounds like Ec) so playing Tetris helps with PTSD!!!!!

Thread: Playing Tetris helps reduce the effects of PTSD.
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I'm gonna start a perception map tonight using this blog post:
[link to perceptionmap.blogspot.com]
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I'm gonna start a perception map tonight using this blog post:
[link to perceptionmap.blogspot.com]
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OK.

I remember when I first started out, we talked about using symbols, such as a picture as he mentions in the post in that link, but somewhere along the way, he had us making symbols with no value.

For example, take a stick, put ABC gum around it and roll it in the grass and use that for your symbol. I'm not sure why we made a transistion.

But, if you read that whole post, he mentioned the results are unpredictable if the symbol has some value. Iow, a perception map (also called a Genius), works better if the symbol has no value and so is nonsensical like the stick example above.
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I'm gonna start a perception map tonight using this blog post:
[link to perceptionmap.blogspot.com]
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OK.

I remember when I first started out, we talked about using symbols, such as a picture as he mentions in the post in that link, but somewhere along the way, he had us making symbols with no value.

For example, take a stick, put ABC gum around it and roll it in the grass and use that for your symbol. I'm not sure why we made a transistion.

But, if you read that whole post, he mentioned the results are unpredictable if the symbol has some value. Iow, a perception map (also called a Genius), works better if the symbol has no value and so is nonsensical like the stick example above.
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I made two perception maps. For the first one I'm using a picture of a beautiful home office to represent the income I'd need to generate to have one that nice. It also reminded me of one I saw years ago that stuck in my mind. So are you suggesting I change it because I've already attached value to it?? Hmm. I think that is what you're saying.

With the 2nd map I'm going to use a made up symbol (looks like a logo- which is fine as the goal is business related). I planned to shape it in clay, paint it red and put it someplace where I'd see it everyday.

You know, I'm learning a lot more by attempting to do this stuff versus just reading about it? I thought I had a decent understanding of the concept before. But there was no depth or connection with the material. My feeble attempts to use Ec are causing the new information to settle in deeper.

I guess I'm creating neural pathways. Only I've never noticed myself doing so before. Just never paid attention to it.

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I'm gonna start a perception map tonight using this blog post:
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OK.

I remember when I first started out, we talked about using symbols, such as a picture as he mentions in the post in that link, but somewhere along the way, he had us making symbols with no value.

For example, take a stick, put ABC gum around it and roll it in the grass and use that for your symbol. I'm not sure why we made a transistion.

But, if you read that whole post, he mentioned the results are unpredictable if the symbol has some value. Iow, a perception map (also called a Genius), works better if the symbol has no value and so is nonsensical like the stick example above.
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I made two perception maps. For the first one I'm using a picture of a beautiful home office to represent the income I'd need to generate to have one that nice. It also reminded me of one I saw years ago that stuck in my mind. So are you suggesting I change it because I've already attached value to it?? Hmm. I think that is what you're saying.

With the 2nd map I'm going to use a made up symbol (looks like a logo- which is fine as the goal is business related). I planned to shape it in clay, paint it red and put it someplace where I'd see it everyday.

You know, I'm learning a lot more by attempting to do this stuff versus just reading about it? I thought I had a decent understanding of the concept before. But there was no depth or connection with the material. My feeble attempts to use Ec are causing the new information to settle in deeper.

I guess I'm creating neural pathways. Only I've never noticed myself doing so before. Just never paid attention to it.
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There ya go. And yes, the symbol is nonsensical, something that has no to little value.

According to Chaol, the actual reason we are creating a Genius is to see how they work, more than achieving a goal. Sounds like you are doing fine.

If you start reading at page 175 of this thread, that's where we got to talking about creating a Genius, in detail, with Chaol.

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Personalized games to train the brain
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(It's starting to get the U3 thread... ;) )
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lol

It's because the rabbit is behind the tree. afro
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Lol!

I got yet another one of those "automated answers", this time on questions containing 'how much' or 'how many'.

I introduced at my office. Everyone got his own number; mine is 3, one colleague had 11, yet another 5 and so on.

Now if a question contains how much or how many, and you don't know or don't care what the answer is, you just say your own personal number!

Works like a charm ;)
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I've made some progress on my Perception Maps. I haven't changed the symbols yet. Didn't have time since yesterday was super busy AND I became distracted creating a home office.

I thought it would be nice to buy a small trinket to put on my desk when I reach my goal. I ended up spending $20 at the craft and dollar stores on supplies. I figured I could create some of the things in the photo now versus waiting on some vague timeline in the future to have it all at once. Perhaps I could interact with parts of my goal now.

When I got home I realized I have a small thrift store desk gathering dust in the basement that resembles the desk in my photo. It's in a seldom used room down there which has a window facing the backyard where I can see my children playing. That particular detail is an integral part of my goal.

To make a long story short, I'm typing this post in my "home office" now. It isn't as nice as the one I dream about. But it's the nicest one I've ever had. What prevented me from creating it before is the imagined expense I'd incur and lack of faith. Once you play with the Possibilities anything could happen.

Anyway, I attended a wedding yesterday where I was seated next to a young woman who's working on her MBA. We chatted all through our meals about the state of the economy, sequestration and the need to create income outside of a traditional job. At the end of the meal she asked for my contact info so we could chat more.

So yeah, I'd say this Ec stuff is working pretty quickly.
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Lol!

I got yet another one of those "automated answers", this time on questions containing 'how much' or 'how many'.

I introduced at my office. Everyone got his own number; mine is 3, one colleague had 11, yet another 5 and so on.

Now if a question contains how much or how many, and you don't know or don't care what the answer is, you just say your own personal number!

Works like a charm ;)
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lol

I'm gonna do that but use Ec numbers. Thanks for the tips, heh!
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I've made some progress on my Perception Maps. I haven't changed the symbols yet. Didn't have time since yesterday was super busy AND I became distracted creating a home office.

I thought it would be nice to buy a small trinket to put on my desk when I reach my goal. I ended up spending $20 at the craft and dollar stores on supplies. I figured I could create some of the things in the photo now versus waiting on some vague timeline in the future to have it all at once. Perhaps I could interact with parts of my goal now.

When I got home I realized I have a small thrift store desk gathering dust in the basement that resembles the desk in my photo. It's in a seldom used room down there which has a window facing the backyard where I can see my children playing. That particular detail is an integral part of my goal.

To make a long story short, I'm typing this post in my "home office" now. It isn't as nice as the one I dream about. But it's the nicest one I've ever had. What prevented me from creating it before is the imagined expense I'd incur and lack of faith. Once you play with the Possibilities anything could happen.

Anyway, I attended a wedding yesterday where I was seated next to a young woman who's working on her MBA. We chatted all through our meals about the state of the economy, sequestration and the need to create income outside of a traditional job. At the end of the meal she asked for my contact info so we could chat more.

So yeah, I'd say this Ec stuff is working pretty quickly.
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Yay! Goofy Thum


This happens a lot around here, heh! Keep reading the thread and you'll run across several reports of this kind of thing.
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