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A QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS TO PONDER UPON.....

 
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A QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS TO PONDER UPON.....
Christians have you ever wondered why there are no pictures painted by the Apostles of Jesus?

They loved him so much why is there not a picture of him prior to this?

"No physical description of Jesus is contained in any of the canonical Gospels. During the persecution of Christians under the Roman Empire, Christian art was necessarily furtive and ambiguous, and there was hostility to idols in a group still with a large component of members with Jewish origins, surrounded by, and polemicising against, sophisticated pagan images of gods. Clement of Alexandria (d. 215) and Eusebius of Caesarea (d. ca. 339) disapproved of portrayals in images of Jesus and the issue remained the subject of some controversy until the end of the 4th century.[1]"

The earliest surviving Christian art comes from the late 2nd to early 4th centuries on the walls of tombs belonging, most likely, to wealthy [2] Christians in the catacombs of Rome, although from literary evidence there may well have been panel icons which, like almost all classical painting, have disappeared.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Have you ever pondered upon it?

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im pondering im pondering.... they sucked at painting?
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im pondering im pondering.... they sucked at painting?
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all your ponder are belongs to us.
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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..
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im pondering im pondering.... they sucked at painting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762465


Even a child can draw, often before they can speak.

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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758002

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.
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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758002


Without pondering, there is no searching of the soul, without searching the soul there is no seeking, without seeking people do not come to completion of truth of knowing.

Without knowing people do not take responsibility and think outside of the box.

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im pondering im pondering.... they sucked at painting?


Even a child can draw, often before they can speak.

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come on Lotus seriously do you know anything about art?
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There have been a number of historical figures who were not painted. The lack of paintings, or sculptures, is irrelevant.

On the other hand, despotic leaders throughout history often had paintings and sculptures made of themselves. Perhaps Jesus shunned those practices.
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how much art is there from first century jews? they were not a strong leader in art it was predominately italian artist that were popular at that time IIRC
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come on Lotus seriously do you know anything about art?
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My life is an art all of itself, a painting created by God. I am his intelligent design.

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There have been a number of historical figures who were not painted. The lack of paintings, or sculptures, is irrelevant.

On the other hand, despotic leaders throughout history often had paintings and sculptures made of themselves. Perhaps Jesus shunned those practices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762060



Very good and maybe Christians would like to ponder upon why Jesus might have shunned those practices.

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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758002



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come on Lotus seriously do you know anything about art?


My life is an art all of itself, a painting created by God. I am his intelligent design.

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God is indeed a fantastic painter, I mever cease to be amazed at the perfect combination of colors in nature
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Maybe he was really ugly.
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how much art is there from first century jews? they were not a strong leader in art it was predominately italian artist that were popular at that time IIRC
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Jesus also lived in Egypt and the Egyptians were great artists. The ancient tombs are testament to this fact.

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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762465


Because if you chirsters kept your silly beliefs to yourself or to people who came to you looking to hear it that would be one thing..

But you mother fuckers are way to vocal and always trying to convert others, that and i dont fuck care for the way most christers believe morality should be legislated...
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There have been a number of historical figures who were not painted. The lack of paintings, or sculptures, is irrelevant.

On the other hand, despotic leaders throughout history often had paintings and sculptures made of themselves. Perhaps Jesus shunned those practices.



Very good and maybe Christians would like to ponder upon why Jesus might have shunned those practices.

Lotus
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I know where you are heading, but IMO he debunked quite clearly what was before and created anew.
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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.


Because if you chirsters kept your silly beliefs to yourself or to people who came to you looking to hear it that would be one thing..

But you mother fuckers are way to vocal and always trying to convert others, that and i dont fuck care for the way most christers believe morality should be legislated...
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I personally dont give a damn if you believe or not, but thats just me.
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They believed in his divinity, and they knew that painting Him was against the 10 commandments.
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God is indeed a fantastic painter, I mever cease to be amazed at the perfect combination of colors in nature
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pdance





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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.


Because if you chirsters kept your silly beliefs to yourself or to people who came to you looking to hear it that would be one thing..

But you mother fuckers are way to vocal and always trying to convert others, that and i dont fuck care for the way most christers believe morality should be legislated...

I personally dont give a damn if you believe or not, but thats just me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762465

But, having said that, if you insult him in any way I will defend him and stand up for him because to me he is the greatest.
You dont have to believe, but you should respect the beliefs of those that do.
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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.


Because if you chirsters kept your silly beliefs to yourself or to people who came to you looking to hear it that would be one thing..

But you mother fuckers are way to vocal and always trying to convert others, that and i dont fuck care for the way most christers believe morality should be legislated...

I personally dont give a damn if you believe or not, but thats just me.

But, having said that, if you insult him in any way I will defend him and stand up for him because to me he is the greatest.
You dont have to believe, but you should respect the beliefs of those that do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762465


Respect is a two way street, and reminding one of some bullshit hellfire for not believing the way you do is the ultimate display of disrespect!!
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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.


Because if you chirsters kept your silly beliefs to yourself or to people who came to you looking to hear it that would be one thing..

But you mother fuckers are way to vocal and always trying to convert others, that and i dont fuck care for the way most christers believe morality should be legislated...

I personally dont give a damn if you believe or not, but thats just me.

But, having said that, if you insult him in any way I will defend him and stand up for him because to me he is the greatest.
You dont have to believe, but you should respect the beliefs of those that do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762465

hf

Yes we will always defend him and the spiritual body of humanity for as long as we live.

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WTF are you doing.... christers dont ponder..

You show me a group that actively ponders and ill show you a group that sheads silly superstitions..

Oh but we ponder we ponder, right now im pondering why non christians give a fu... if we are right or wrong, why do non christians spend so much of their enlightened time trying to debunk our faith. To be pondered in depth.


Because if you chirsters kept your silly beliefs to yourself or to people who came to you looking to hear it that would be one thing..

But you mother fuckers are way to vocal and always trying to convert others, that and i dont fuck care for the way most christers believe morality should be legislated...

I personally dont give a damn if you believe or not, but thats just me.

But, having said that, if you insult him in any way I will defend him and stand up for him because to me he is the greatest.
You dont have to believe, but you should respect the beliefs of those that do.


Respect is a two way street, and reminding one of some bullshit hellfire for not believing the way you do is the ultimate display of disrespect!!
___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth
I personally would never do that for the simple fact that only..only.. God knows who will be saved or not. i dislike the people that do do that btw, I find it extremely annoying.
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Respect is a two way street, and reminding one of some bullshit hellfire for not believing the way you do is the ultimate display of disrespect!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Hard truth it is man that speaks of hell fire not Jesus.

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You dont have to believe, but you should respect the beliefs of those that do.


Respect is a two way street, and reminding one of some bullshit hellfire for not believing the way you do is the ultimate display of disrespect!!
___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth



Exactly.. also respect is earned.. if you can keep your twisted superstitions to your self then i will respect that you have backward views, im cool with that..

But the second you start spitting bullshit, or trying to get the government to make laws based off your bullshit then we have a problemm..

Its easy just keep that shit to yourself, you dont want to hear about gays and their sex,i dont want to hear about christers and their "faith".


Lotus is a prime example of someone who is always creating a "problem".
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They did do one - [link to www.cowart.info]
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You dont have to believe, but you should respect the beliefs of those that do.


Respect is a two way street, and reminding one of some bullshit hellfire for not believing the way you do is the ultimate display of disrespect!!
___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!



Exactly.. also respect is earned.. if you can keep your twisted superstitions to your self then i will respect that you have backward views, im cool with that..

But the second you start spitting bullshit, or trying to get the government to make laws based off your bullshit then we have a problemm..

Its easy just keep that shit to yourself, you dont want to hear about gays and their sex,i dont want to hear about christers and their "faith".


Lotus is a prime example of someone who is always creating a "problem".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758002


I'm fine with not wanting to make laws based on religion, or teach it in school and so on, but like it or not, there is freedom of religion and freedom of speech in this country. Saying "keep that shit to yourself" could apply to anything anyone says.
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Lotus, I would take into account the linen from Torino, where the imprint of Jesus face and body are well preserved until nowadays and its saga can be traced down to 1. century AD. Did you ever ponder why the artists always paint adult Jesus Christ with beard and why are almost all pictures so similar to each other?





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