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I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me

 
angry canuck
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09/04/2009 11:48 AM
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I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
I'm so fucking sick and tired of my life. I'm sick of being poor, sick of being treaded on, sick of being denied things like EI.

When I was 18, a friend of mine from high school also turned 18. He was native. Wanna know what he got when he turned 18? 70,000 dollars. Why? Because he's native. All natives in Canada get a shitpile of money from the government when they turn 18 (many native Canadians will deny this, but it's true) and the rest of us get NOTHING.

I'm 30 years old and just had to move back home to live with my parents. The government will not give me EI, despite my paying into it for over 12 years (i worked non stop for 12 years). Yet these natives get free money any time they want just because they're native. They can all collect EI, they can all collect social assistance, but me? Nope.

I'm not racist towards natives, many of my friends over the years have been native. But the disparity between them and everyone else is sickening.

You'll see a lot of news stories about how natives are poor in some areas of Canada, but they never mention the fact that all those poor natives got piles of money from the government at times; they just blow it all is why they're poor now.

I'm quickly losing my mind and am pretty sure I'm going to end up either homeless, in a mental institution, or dead by my own hand.
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09/04/2009 11:50 AM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Sorry bud you need skills not schemes, stop worrying about what others "get" and take something for yourself.

Taking something starts with your 30 year old ass obtaining some job skills.
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09/04/2009 11:53 AM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Sorry bud you need skills not schemes, stop worrying about what others "get" and take something for yourself.

Taking something starts with your 30 year old ass obtaining some job skills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758002

Very funny. As I said I worked for 12 years straight. Government denies me anything and everything. But the natives get free money because of their ancestors from one or two hundred years ago.

I got skills bro. No scheme here, just fact.
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09/04/2009 11:54 AM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
We'll in the US, if your are a native you get squat, and if you are a foreigner you get lots of benefits.
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09/04/2009 12:00 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Sorry bud you need skills not schemes, stop worrying about what others "get" and take something for yourself.

Taking something starts with your 30 year old ass obtaining some job skills.

Very funny. As I said I worked for 12 years straight. Government denies me anything and everything. But the natives get free money because of their ancestors from one or two hundred years ago.

I got skills bro. No scheme here, just fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763010


Ahh well here in the states its everyone for themselves and you are expected to work until the day you die, perhaps you should go with that mentatlity from now on, it might make you feel better about the whole thing.
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09/04/2009 12:01 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Hmm. my wife is native and she hasn't seen a cheque for anything. She grew up poor, excelled at school, obtained 2 undergraduate degrees and a masters degree....still no free money.
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
We'll in the US, if your are a native you get squat, and if you are a foreigner you get lots of benefits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69144

yeah foreigners that come to Canada piss me off also. They get a buttload of free money from the govt, place to live, help with getting a vehicle, etc... But Canadian citizens? Nope. We get fuck all. Oh, we do get those GST checks tho! Gotta love that few hundred bucks a year!
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09/04/2009 12:05 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Sorry that you're jealous of a minority with truck loads of problems (substance abuse, suicide, violence, gangs). Of all the people to resent.

Your problem is that you think you'd be happy if only you had more money. Not to say no money is acceptable, but at least you had somewhere to go during this hard transition in your life.

Don't give in to resentment about what others have (and trust me, not all natives get random shitpiles of money unless they go to university or perhaps got shipped to residential school as a child, etc.). Anyway, easier access to subsistence living off the government is just keeping them stuck and isolated.

Don't give in to this American style finger pointing for your own frustrations. Things will turn around for you, whether you think others have it easier or not.
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
You could always marry into the tribe. There's a great documentary on the subject, called Dances With Wolves, or something.
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
We'll in the US, if your are a native you get squat, and if you are a foreigner you get lots of benefits.

yeah foreigners that come to Canada piss me off also. They get a buttload of free money from the govt, place to live, help with getting a vehicle, etc... But Canadian citizens? Nope. We get fuck all. Oh, we do get those GST checks tho! Gotta love that few hundred bucks a year!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763010


What do you think socialism is? It's about gradually making everyone equally poor, except those running the scam.
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09/04/2009 12:07 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
You could always marry into the tribe. There's a great documentary on the subject, called Dances With Wolves, or something.
 Quoting: Al Zander

LOL! thanks, I needed a good laugh.
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09/04/2009 12:11 PM
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LMAO. yup yup yup yup yup yup yup m m m m m m get a job.
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09/04/2009 12:17 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
We'll in the US, if your are a native you get squat, and if you are a foreigner you get lots of benefits.

yeah foreigners that come to Canada piss me off also. They get a buttload of free money from the govt, place to live, help with getting a vehicle, etc... But Canadian citizens? Nope. We get fuck all. Oh, we do get those GST checks tho! Gotta love that few hundred bucks a year!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763010



Actually that few hundred bucks a year came from money you already paid via Goods & Services to the gov't.

They just gave you back some of your own money minus their TINY LITTLE administarion via which is EXTEMELY EFFICIENT and a great make work project for non whites.

As you might tell, I'm being sarcastic.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2009 12:18 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Ever think of moving to the United States?

You have all the qualities to become a Democrat politician.
Obama needs losers like you.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2009 12:23 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Let me get this right, your friend who is a Canadian aboriginal received 70 grand when he turned 18?

I can understand treaty first nations people getting money from living in those residential schools, but they are all old timers. How does a young person get that amount of money from the gov?
african
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09/04/2009 12:25 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
am thirty nine and been busy building my crib and single handedly bringing up a 19 months baby boy. i will never work if the job can not be telecomuted or has no flexible time schedule program an tired working the traditional way of daily commutting to work.
african
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
there is a typo.
Anonymous Coward
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09/04/2009 12:42 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
The North American Natives lost the land that was rightfully given to them by GOD

The whites (for the most part) contaminated their continent and went looking to STEAL other continents. They deserve more then what they are getting.

hf

hf
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09/04/2009 01:34 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
I heard that all Canadians grow Skunk Bud in their basements for cash.Get some lamps and some timers,some HQ seedlings and set up!
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Sorry that you're jealous of a minority with truck loads of problems (substance abuse, suicide, violence, gangs). Of all the people to resent.

Your problem is that you think you'd be happy if only you had more money. Not to say no money is acceptable, but at least you had somewhere to go during this hard transition in your life.

Don't give in to resentment about what others have (and trust me, not all natives get random shitpiles of money unless they go to university or perhaps got shipped to residential school as a child, etc.). Anyway, easier access to subsistence living off the government is just keeping them stuck and isolated.

Don't give in to this American style finger pointing for your own frustrations. Things will turn around for you, whether you think others have it easier or not.
 Quoting: rasmussen

Taxpayers should reward people for being drunks, dope fiends, and gang-bangers?

Ever hear of "moral hazard?

Writ large...
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09/04/2009 05:00 PM
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Let me get this right, your friend who is a Canadian aboriginal received 70 grand when he turned 18?

I can understand treaty first nations people getting money from living in those residential schools, but they are all old timers. How does a young person get that amount of money from the gov?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763046

as long as you're native and have your status card (which every native can easily get) then you get free money. They are still paying out the residential school apology money, but yes it is to the old timers.

As long as they have that card, they get free money. Anyone who says differently is just covering their rich asses because lots of Canadians have no idea that all natives get free money from the government.
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
Indians:

Indians are aboriginal people who are not Inuit or Métis. Innu are Indian people, also known as Naskapi and Montagnais, and live in Northern Quebec and Labrador. They are sometimes confused with the Inuit.

The federal government's Indian Act divides Indians into two categories: Status and Non-Status Indians.

Status Indians

Status Indians are people who qualify for registration on an official list maintained by Ottawa.

The reason this matters is that Status Indians are entitled to certain rights and payments not available to other Canadians – depending on the terms of their treaty. For example, some older treaties include money for ammunition and annuities, and hunting and fishing rights on unoccupied land. And some, but not all, Status Indians qualify for tax exemptions and free post-secondary education.

There are rules that determine who qualifies as a Status Indian – usually based on evidence of descent from people Ottawa recognizes as members of an Indian band.

While Indians have their own methods for determining who is a member of the band and who is not, the Indian Act is not as inclusive in its criteria for determining who is status and who is not.

"It looks like you need an [Indian] grandmother or grandfather to be considered an Indian," says Jean-Paul Restoule, professor of aboriginal education at the University of Toronto and a Status Indian. "But the grandmother or grandfather could be mixed blood and still be considered an Indian. The first lists of Indians were fairly arbitrary. Before the [Indian] act, they used to make room for adoptions and those accepted by the community as Indian."

Non-Status Indians

Non-Status Indians are people who consider themselves Indians though Ottawa does not recognize them as such. This is usually because they can't prove their status or have lost their status.

Non-Status Indians are not entitled to the same rights and benefits available to Status Indians.

Historically, many Indian women lost their status when they married non-native men. While the act was changed in 1985 to avoid such sexual discrimination, it is still possible for the grandchildren of Status Indians to lose their designation.

"If you have status, you retain it. Where it's lost is in the second generation," says Restoule. "The child [of a Status and Non-Status Indian] maintains status. But if the child marries someone who doesn't have status, their kids don't qualify for status."

According to the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs' historian Jean-Pierre Morin, there was much social baggage that went along with being status or non-status.

"Because you were status, you were not considered at the same level as everyone else. Today it's not the same, but it still has stigma," he says.

Because historically the department's aim was to assimilate Indians, there was a time when it could take away an Indian's status if they had a university degree. "If you had a degree, you were deemed to be sufficiently assimilated that you surrendered your Indian status," says Morin.

Inuit:

Inuit are the aboriginal people of Northern Canada who live in Nunavut, Northwest Territories, Northern Quebec and Northern Labrador. The word means "people" in the Inuit language — Inuktitut. Inuvialuit are Inuit who live in the Western Arctic.

For centuries, outsiders called Inuit "Eskimos," an Algonquian Indian term meaning "eaters of raw meat." It is a term Inuit find unacceptable. The Indian Act does not cover Inuit, but the Supreme Court ruled in 1939 that the federal government's power to make laws affecting Indians extend to Inuit.

Métis:

Métis identify themselves as aboriginal people. They are born of a mixture of European and aboriginal bloodlines but don't qualify as Status Indians. The Métis live primarily on the Prairies, and in Ontario and the Northwest Territories, but also in other areas of Canada.

Originally, "Métis" was used to describe the children of aboriginal women and French fur traders. As the fur trade expanded, English, Scandinavian, Scottish and Irish bloodlines also became part of the Métis Nation.

During the early history of Métis settlements, the Métis acted as intermediaries between Europeans and Indians. Working as interpreters, guides and mediators for forts and trading companies, they came to establish distinct settlements across the northern Prairie provinces. Louis Riel, seen by many as the founder of Manitoba, was a Métis.

After Manitoba became part of Canada in 1870 Métis suffered more than 100 years of struggle for recognition as a legally distinct nation. It wasn't until the Constitution Act of 1982 that they were recognized, along with Indians and Inuit, as one of the three Aboriginal Peoples of Canada.

Native, aboriginal or First Nations?

Any or all of them, depending on who you are referring to.

Canada's Constitution recognizes three aboriginal groups – Indians, Metis and Inuit. If you want to refer all those groups, you'd be talking about Canada's Aboriginal Peoples. The plural Peoples in this context refers to a lot of separate groups, each with distinct histories and cultures, and not merely to a number of people.

The word "native" can also be used to refer to the three aboriginal groups.

First Nations refers only to Indians, whether or not they have treaty status. It is not used to refer to Metis or Inuit people.

Do aboriginals pay taxes?

That depends.

In general, aboriginals pay taxes just like other people in Canada. However, there are exemptions under the Indian Act. The act says that the "personal property of an Indian or a band situated on a reserve" is tax exempt. Métis and Inuit are not eligible for this exemption.

The act says that a Status Indian working on a reserve is exempt from income taxes. However, there is a complicated formula involved here – the location of the duties and residence of the employee and employer must be taken into consideration.

And Status Indians do not generally pay the federal goods and services tax or provincial sales tax if they buy something on a reserve or if it is destined for a reserve.

"Off-reserve, we all get stuck with it," notes Restoule.

The Indian Act also forbids non-Indian governments from taxing the property of Status Indians on a reserve. But the act does gives Indian governments the power to impose some property taxes, and some land claims may also allow Indian governments to collect sales taxes on selected products.

Do aboriginals get free post-secondary education?

Again, it depends. And again, Inuit and Métis are exempted from the free post-secondary education that some Status Indians receive.

This is how it works: Ottawa provides education money to Indian bands, which in turn decide whose education to finance.

"Not everyone is entitled to the money … There's a cap. The money has been frozen for 20 years or so," says Victoria De La Ronde, director of treaty policy with the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs.

Because there is only so much money for post-secondary education, she says some bands may decide to fund only those pursuing their first degree, or perhaps only those living on the reserve.

[link to www.cbc.ca]
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Only natives who's band office won a land settlement claim are entitled to money. The band office won it from the government through legal actions, and the band office gives it to people on their reserve. Not all natives get money straight from the government. And if you look at some of teh people im related to, you'd realize how ignorant you sound. I know most other natives dont get cheques, and most are poor. Go up north to any reserve, they dont even have fresh water or food. stupid fucker.
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09/21/2009 11:36 AM
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Only natives who's band office won a land settlement claim are entitled to money. The band office won it from the government through legal actions, and the band office gives it to people on their reserve. Not all natives get money straight from the government. And if you look at some of teh people im related to, you'd realize how ignorant you sound. I know most other natives dont get cheques, and most are poor. Go up north to any reserve, they dont even have fresh water or food. stupid fucker.
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Guess what libtard! If I went up North to some remote setting, I wouldn't have fresh water either. They choose to live up there. They can move to Winnipeg or Regina on the gov'ts dime any time they want to.

This remote northern land is exactly as it was when their ancestors lived up there. Whitey hasn't taken it. It is still there.

Go North and live in a Teepee if you want to BUT I'm not paying for it.
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We'll in the US, if your are a native you get squat, and if you are a foreigner you get lots of benefits.
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itdincor

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09/21/2009 07:38 PM
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Here in Alaska, natives get medical care which is ENTIRELY FREE. Even free flights to Anchorage.

Everybody else gets rat shit.

Nothing like equality, eh?

hayseed
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09/21/2009 07:49 PM
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Here in Alaska, natives get medical care which is ENTIRELY FREE. Even free flights to Anchorage.

Everybody else gets rat shit.

Nothing like equality, eh?

hayseed
 Quoting: itdincor


LOL you think that healthcare is good? If you seen how bad the health care was you would not want it.

May the Great Spirit Bless you

Take Care
Tann
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i'm a native from canada,and do you wanna know what i got for
my 18th birthday from the canada goverment

175 dollar welfare check banana2
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09/21/2009 08:19 PM
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It's really cold in Canada and maybe that is the reason you GUYS snuggle so close...just to keep warm?????
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Re: I am one pissed of canuck! Free money for natives, nothing for me
I'm so fucking sick and tired of my life. I'm sick of being poor, sick of being treaded on, sick of being denied things like EI.

When I was 18, a friend of mine from high school also turned 18. He was native. Wanna know what he got when he turned 18? 70,000 dollars. Why? Because he's native. All natives in Canada get a shitpile of money from the government when they turn 18 (many native Canadians will deny this, but it's true) and the rest of us get NOTHING.

I'm 30 years old and just had to move back home to live with my parents. The government will not give me EI, despite my paying into it for over 12 years (i worked non stop for 12 years). Yet these natives get free money any time they want just because they're native. They can all collect EI, they can all collect social assistance, but me? Nope.

I'm not racist towards natives, many of my friends over the years have been native. But the disparity between them and everyone else is sickening.

You'll see a lot of news stories about how natives are poor in some areas of Canada, but they never mention the fact that all those poor natives got piles of money from the government at times; they just blow it all is why they're poor now.

I'm quickly losing my mind and am pretty sure I'm going to end up either homeless, in a mental institution, or dead by my own hand.
 Quoting: angry canuck 763010


Get yourself adopted by a local band.
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I'm so fucking sick and tired of my life. I'm sick of being poor, sick of being treaded on, sick of being denied things like EI.

When I was 18, a friend of mine from high school also turned 18. He was native. Wanna know what he got when he turned 18? 70,000 dollars. Why? Because he's native. All natives in Canada get a shitpile of money from the government when they turn 18 (many native Canadians will deny this, but it's true) and the rest of us get NOTHING.

I'm 30 years old and just had to move back home to live with my parents. The government will not give me EI, despite my paying into it for over 12 years (i worked non stop for 12 years). Yet these natives get free money any time they want just because they're native. They can all collect EI, they can all collect social assistance, but me? Nope.

I'm not racist towards natives, many of my friends over the years have been native. But the disparity between them and everyone else is sickening.

You'll see a lot of news stories about how natives are poor in some areas of Canada, but they never mention the fact that all those poor natives got piles of money from the government at times; they just blow it all is why they're poor now.

I'm quickly losing my mind and am pretty sure I'm going to end up either homeless, in a mental institution, or dead by my own hand.
 Quoting: angry canuck 763010


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