Christianity VS Buddhism... WHO IS CORRECT!?? | |
Lance User ID: 763399 United States 09/04/2009 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Though Buddhism does not discriminate against others like Christianity and most other tampered religions, it is still only ideals and beliefs. I think they are good principles to live by. However, the tortoise and the hare also delivers inspirational messages worth living by The only way for people to squash this debate is to come to terms with the fact that we know nothing about and ultimate creator. It is beyond our comprehension. We will not understand what is beyond us. To cotinually try to or to claim that we know what is beyond us is clinical insanity To accept that is to find peace, IMO. - Lance |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 537649 United States 09/04/2009 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because, as the scriptures say, he is the Light that is in ALL men. Quoting: ShingenVerse? A verse? Why is it that certain Christians try to prove or disprove a certain concept by some bible verse? Who wrote the bible? Historically? Can anyone say, or is it all theory, supposition and conjecture? Mind control and population manipulation? Is there one book that is total and entire Word of God? The Infinite Really Real God?? I don't think so. How may stars in this Milky way Galaxy? How may Galaxies in this one Universe? Inquiring minds? Thats what Faith creates... an absolute refusal to look at reality. And yet - if one goes toe-to-toe with those who call themselves christians, one will often find that the scriptures rebuke them more reliably than anything else. Ironic, huh? |
Aquarius2012 (OP) User ID: 391355 United States 09/04/2009 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regardless of what we all believe in, there is no reason why we cannot be at peace with eachother. Quoting: TXGal4TruthAAAHHHH!!! Finally some sense from the Christers! (and i mean no offense by that like the other people on GLP) No matter what your religion is, were all still huddled on this planet trying to survive and we arent going to understand it until we die. Regardless of what you believe in.. |
Aquarius2012 (OP) User ID: 391355 United States 09/04/2009 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christian God does not exist. That is fact. Quoting: Lance 763399Though Buddhism does not discriminate against others like Christianity and most other tampered religions, it is still only ideals and beliefs. I think they are good principles to live by. However, the tortoise and the hare also delivers inspirational messages worth living by The only way for people to squash this debate is to come to terms with the fact that we know nothing about and ultimate creator. It is beyond our comprehension. We will not understand what is beyond us. To cotinually try to or to claim that we know what is beyond us is clinical insanity To accept that is to find peace, IMO. - Lance Good point man. But you say "ultimate creater" while other people call that "God".. But you claim the non-existence of "God" as FACT! Where are you going with this man? lol |
Aquarius 7 User ID: 736450 United States 09/04/2009 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . . Quoting: Aquarius2012These are instructions from Jesus/Yahshua Himself: He said to the apostles, "When you travel, don't take a walking stick. Also, don't carry a bag, food, or money. Take for your trip only the clothes you are wearing. When you go into a house, stay there until it is time to leave. If the people in the town will not welcome you, go outside the town and shake their dust off of your feet. This will be a warning to them." (ERV) ~ Luke 9:3-5 . . . . Yeah. I dont get it.. Whats that even mean? . . Well, we're back to what I said the first time: "My sheep know My voice, and they follow Me." ~ Jesus/Yahshua If you are not "hearing His voice", then maybe you are not one of His sheep. He also said "In My Father's house are many mansions" ... maybe that means for the followers of other paths, but I'm not sure on that. Anyone have any thoughts on what that means? . . Last Edited by Aquarius 7 on 09/04/2009 10:33 PM . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 760150 United States 09/04/2009 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God (Jesus) requires faith, and faith requires worship. Buddha is just an alien from outer space who taught his own version of yoga. Quoting: ShingenGod creates everything and requires nothing. Faith is nothing but delusional insanity in the face of actual reality. It serves no one, helps no one, and creates nothing. God creates freely, gives freely, and asks no wages, because there is nothing that you could possibly give Him that He could not create Himself...with or without your worthless faith or meaningless worship. Faith and worship are for the mindless sheep, who choose not to look at the Universe as God created it, and instead would rather keep their heads in the sands on man-made Religions, and be led by the money-grubbing, idol-worshiping preachers who stand at the door of the churches and tax you 10% of your wages so that they can live high-on-the-hog off your labor. God does not require your faith, or worship. Period. Wow while I agree with your conclusion. I mostly disagree that living without faith is being independent and thus more virtuous. The spirit works on a clear set of rules - hierarchy if you can. There are more atoms than molecules, more cells than people, more grass than animals. Evolve, devolve, satism are the only options for consciousness. Interior, exterior, individual, collective. Faith in the ability of life to be a swirling eddie swimming upstream of the ineveitable downhill flow of entropy. I suggest A brief history of everything by Ken Wilber. Worship is the ability to take the sun and the rain and allow as much consciousness to live with in the constrains of the resources of the place. How ever I can not denigrate those that would practice ritual worship in a community atmosphere as I can not access their interior motives and understand the value of that in their life. I however know of no other living thing that does nothing for one day a week and hence as caretaker neither do I. For me taking my animals for meat is something that I wish I had a social context for. It certainly evokes a sense of worship for the fact that nature produces males in copious quantities. Belief system --> Perception ---> Intellect --> Emotion |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 537649 United States 09/04/2009 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because, as the scriptures say, he is the Light that is in ALL men. Quoting: Dried Up HagVerse? Luke 2:32,33 - A light to lighten the Gentiles, (non-jews), anf the glory of thy people Israel. And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him, (Jesus). John 1:4 - In Him, (Jesus), was life. And the life was the light of men. To cite a couple. Here's a good one for you, AC - John 1:9 - That was the true Light which lighteth EVERY MAN WHICH COMETH INTO THE WORLD. (emphasis mine). I DO NOT LIE ABOUT SCRIPTURE! |
Aquarius2012 (OP) User ID: 391355 United States 09/04/2009 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, we're back to what I said the first time: "My sheep know My voice, and they follow Me." ~ Jesus/Yahshua Quoting: Aquarius 7If you are not "hearing His voice", then maybe you are not one of His sheep. He also said "In My Father's house are many mansions" ... maybe that means for the followers of other paths, but I'm not sure on that. Anyone have any thoughts on what that means? . . Yeah kind of.. But i want you to tell me what YOU think it means. |
Aquarius2012 (OP) User ID: 391355 United States 09/04/2009 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I DO NOT LIE ABOUT SCRIPTURE! Quoting: Dried Up HagI can see an asian teacher screaming this quote at a confused american! HAHAHA Last Edited by Aquarius2012 on 09/04/2009 10:37 PM |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 537649 United States 09/04/2009 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Verse? Does it matter? I couldve came up with that this minute.. So what good is a verse really? To show that she is a liar. AC740600 - you have not acknowledged what I posted from the scriptures. You were quick to call me a liar on a public forum. I have proven that I have not lied about what the scriptures say about Jesus. What say you, Dearheart? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 740600 United States 09/04/2009 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because, as the scriptures say, he is the Light that is in ALL men. Quoting: Dried Up HagVerse? Luke 2:32,33 - A light to lighten the Gentiles, (non-jews), anf the glory of thy people Israel. And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him, (Jesus). John 1:4 - In Him, (Jesus), was life. And the life was the light of men. To cite a couple. Those verses do not say what you said they say. They say that Jesus is the light... to you. It does not say any light is in or from you or anyone else. |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 537649 United States 09/04/2009 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I DO NOT LIE ABOUT SCRIPTURE! Quoting: Aquarius2012I can see an asian teacher screaming this quote at a confused american! HAHAHA I see lying about scripture as high blasphemy that would bring condemnation down on me. Sorry if that seems silly. But I don't want to stand before a holy God and answer for misrepresenting Him. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 760150 United States 09/04/2009 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God creates everything and requires nothing. Quoting: ShingenGod creates freely, gives freely, and asks no wages, because there is nothing that you could possibly give Him that He could not create Himself. I find this interesting as all the verb tenses suggest that god is bound by time. I just can't picture god wearing a wristwatch. I would think that the lifetime of this universe could hardly be compared to a second to us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 740600 United States 09/04/2009 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because, as the scriptures say, he is the Light that is in ALL men. Quoting: ShingenVerse? A verse? Why is it that certain Christians try to prove or disprove a certain concept by some bible verse? Who wrote the bible? Historically? Can anyone say, or is it all theory, supposition and conjecture? Mind control and population manipulation? Is there one book that is total and entire Word of God? The Infinite Really Real God?? I don't think so. How may stars in this Milky way Galaxy? How may Galaxies in this one Universe? Inquiring minds? Thats what Faith creates... an absolute refusal to look at reality. Okay. You do not believe. I do. |
Lance User ID: 763399 United States 09/04/2009 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christian God does not exist. That is fact. Quoting: Aquarius2012Though Buddhism does not discriminate against others like Christianity and most other tampered religions, it is still only ideals and beliefs. I think they are good principles to live by. However, the tortoise and the hare also delivers inspirational messages worth living by The only way for people to squash this debate is to come to terms with the fact that we know nothing about and ultimate creator. It is beyond our comprehension. We will not understand what is beyond us. To cotinually try to or to claim that we know what is beyond us is clinical insanity To accept that is to find peace, IMO. - Lance Good point man. But you say "ultimate creater" while other people call that "God".. But you claim the non-existence of "God" as FACT! Where are you going with this man? lol Sorry, I'm trying to not be too offensive. What I really meant is that we know nothing about the spirtiual world beyond us. |
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Shingen User ID: 762457 United States 09/04/2009 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see lying about scripture as high blasphemy that would bring condemnation down on me. Sorry if that seems silly. But I don't want to stand before a holy God and answer for misrepresenting Him. Quoting: Dried Up HagThere is no blasphemy nor condemnation. These are Human concepts created to CONTROL YOUR MIND. Neurolinguistics. Since there is no way for you to threaten God, God does not threaten you. Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
Aquarius 7 User ID: 736450 United States 09/04/2009 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He also said "In My Father's house are many mansions" ... maybe that means for the followers of other paths, but I'm not sure on that. Quoting: Aquarius2012Anyone have any thoughts on what that means? . . Yeah kind of.. But i want you to tell me what YOU think it means. . . What I think it means is just a guess; I've never researched scriptural scholars on that particular verse. However, as I said above ^^ , what I think it may mean is that sincere followers of other spiritual paths will be in some of the other "mansions". . . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Aquarius2012 (OP) User ID: 391355 United States 09/04/2009 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I'm trying to not be too offensive. What I really meant is that we know nothing about the spirtiual world beyond us. Quoting: Lance 763399I know that feeling when you wanna get something out but u say it in the wrong way lol its all good... I know what youre saying tho.. We know nothing about what comes after this life. And all religions are based on what you do in this life will determine what comes after! But we really DONT KNOW what comes after |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 763399 United States 09/04/2009 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see lying about scripture as high blasphemy that would bring condemnation down on me. Sorry if that seems silly. But I don't want to stand before a holy God and answer for misrepresenting Him. Quoting: Dried Up HagYou don't have to answer for misrepresenting him. You can ask for forgiveness while on Earth and you're going to heaven. Happy endings for all. |
Shingen User ID: 762457 United States 09/04/2009 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find this interesting as all the verb tenses suggest that god is bound by time. I just can't picture god wearing a wristwatch. I would think that the lifetime of this universe could hardly be compared to a second to us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 760150That because you perceive reality in linear time. Since God is infinite, to Him, I would guess, that there is only now. Last Edited by Shingen on 09/04/2009 10:49 PM "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
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Aquarius2012 (OP) User ID: 391355 United States 09/04/2009 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I think it means is just a guess; I've never researched scriptural scholars on that particular verse. Quoting: Aquarius 7However, as I said above ^^ , what I think it may mean is that sincere followers of other spiritual paths will be in some of the other "mansions". . . NICE! I like that alot. Followers of other beliefs are all but one in the same "mansion".. Thats pretty tight man. With that in mind.. Im off to go party with friends. ------Peace and Love------- |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 740600 United States 09/04/2009 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because, as the scriptures say, he is the Light that is in ALL men. Quoting: Dried Up HagVerse? A verse? Why is it that certain Christians try to prove or disprove a certain concept by some bible verse? Who wrote the bible? Historically? Can anyone say, or is it all theory, supposition and conjecture? Mind control and population manipulation? Is there one book that is total and entire Word of God? The Infinite Really Real God?? I don't think so. How may stars in this Milky way Galaxy? How may Galaxies in this one Universe? Inquiring minds? Thats what Faith creates... an absolute refusal to look at reality. And yet - if one goes toe-to-toe with those who call themselves christians, one will often find that the scriptures rebuke them more reliably than anything else. Ironic, huh? Bring it. |
Shingen User ID: 762457 United States 09/04/2009 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there one book that is total and entire Word of God? The Infinite Really Real God?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 760150I would really try Ken Wilber's A Brief History of Everything. Thanks..yes I've read it..I couldn't place the author tho..my bad Last Edited by Shingen on 09/04/2009 10:49 PM "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
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Dried Up Hag User ID: 537649 United States 09/04/2009 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see lying about scripture as high blasphemy that would bring condemnation down on me. Sorry if that seems silly. But I don't want to stand before a holy God and answer for misrepresenting Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763399You don't have to answer for misrepresenting him. You can ask for forgiveness while on Earth and you're going to heaven. Happy endings for all. Forgiveness for what? Quoting scripture that makes people uncomfortable? |