Why do Christians, muslims, etc, worship space aliens?

It's already been historically proven that aliens created most of the religions of the world, while portraying themselves as Gods to the primitive gullible humans.

How do you 'historically prove' something?

You research and examine historical evidence and when that evidence overwhelmingly points toward a particular conclusion, then that is usually the right conclusion.

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The critic obviously has no concept of science.

I believe it to an extent, but I think we simplify it too much. It's not as simple as being created to harvest gold or be their slaves, etc. Even the Bible didn't erase all traces of the two creative forces. The wind and the water...scrubbed from the text in the generations of Cain (Mechujael--"God is Dead" and Methusael--"God is Erased") and Seth, after their father Hanoch (Enoch) was encouraged to read more from the tree of knowledge...by the same God that supposedly forbade it?

The rabbit hole is much deeper that a blanket statement like:

My message to Christians, Muslims, Jews, and Hindus is WAKE THE FUCK UP!

YOU'RE WORSHIPING SPACE ALIENS!

What a dumb ass! Space aliens did not create all religions, and it has not been "Historically" proven. There is no proof whatsoever that space aliens even exist, yet you try to make a point on two faulty premesis, not counting the vivid imagination of a pagan mindset. Do pagans have any intelligent people?

Last Edited by Wingedlion on 09/08/2009 10:07 AM

Actually you seem to be the one that holds on to pagen beliefs instilled by the Roman Empire.
Let me remind you that when you judge and condemn someone that your sub concious picks that up and in turn you are judging and condeming yourself

Futher study indicates that Jesus and the other God-men are personifications of the Sun.
I found upon doing the necessary studies that the Ancients formulated their Mythology (Religion) after astronomical phenomena.
The ancients personified the elements of the Cosmos and recorded the movements of the stars and planets as personified deities and demons. Thus we should expect and do find that the collection of fables which make up the majority of the Bible are actually various dramas of Solar Mythology
And yes our human form was created by differant factions of space aliens or better turm El's

Last Edited by danhow on 09/08/2009 10:46 AM

Essentially there are three basic routes that man, as we understand today, evolved or came to this plane. One: through the natural evolution, though the group soul of animals; the second through the extraterrestrials; and the third as indicated by the works of entities like Jehovah, creating clones.

The origin of the races as that which proceeds from 5 basic groups. The first group to inhabit earth as entities similar to the humans known today was the Lemurian race
the genetic engineering as that which produced human genes or Sirian genes into the animal kingdom to produce apes. That it was not so much that the apes were made to evolve toward the human by these Sirians, but that the humans added certain human genes to the apes, or to those creatures of anthropoidal nature and altered them somewhat. The humans were the Sirians and had their development already intact.
the Lemurians in general were descendants of the Sirians, and some genetic engineering made use of of genes from animals to give the Sirian humans a kind of stability that allowed them to survive on the Earth plane which was necessary for the survival due to harsh conditions.
there were those who were called Atlans who were space beings, who lived in what is known as the Atlantic. These entities became enemies of the Lemurians early in the time of Lemuria. Atlantis, or the Atlanteans were a group whose origin was found on mars through genetic engineering by the Greys, in particular, the Orion Greys

Enlil and Enki, in the time of Sumer and Ur; this approximately 20.000 years ago in that which is Mesopotamia; that this in the area of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers were the so-called origin of civilization began. It was not so much the origin of the races or the origin of humanity, but it was a new origin of civilization in that agriculture was introduced during that time. The agriculture which has continued to this day, where certain fruits, vegetables and crops were given to these entities and have spread throughout the world from that area, and whereby these entities were the first of a creation of the Cro-Magnon type of human, or that which has been called the prototype for Adam and Eve

The Semites were cloned by Jehovah, on Mars, and transported to Earth. This was approximately the time that Atlantis was near the time of sinking. This appears to be approximately 10,000 BC, give or take two thousands years.
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Don't matter to me if you believe it or not.

Listen Danhow, I am well aware of pagan infleuences from Rome, I also have a very close personal relationship with the Lord God, supreme Creator of all, and I have direct contact with Him as well. He does a good job of teaching me what is light and what is darkness. I would much rather take the encouragement from a Living God than man any day.

Actually it doesn't, similarity only shows that Lucifer, who told God that he would be "like the Most high" has copied his plan, and sold it to a bunch of guilable pagans. Mithra had no power so it never caught on very well.

On the other hand, with early Christians healing the sick, and raising the dead, the pagans had nothing to compare with it, and that will happen again, as history repeats itself. Once the stumbling block of the Nephilim and their counterfeit Christianity is taken out of the way according to Matt. 13:24-43, the "harvest of the tares" then mankind will see what true Christianity is and how very different it is to what they know and understand now.

You can't fight against superior power, and neither could the early pagans.

If you have such a personal relationship with God why are you always judging and condeming people?Can you tell me
what the name of your God is?I can tell you my God is the Universal Creator.It is not he or she but the highest possible energy of vibrations.And it don't ask to be worshipped.
And it doesn't judge people and send them to hell.
It just asks that you love one another and be service to
others.

Since you haven't studyed your bible well here is a bit of info for you about Lucifer

This may be a surprise to you but the word "Lucifer" appears only one time in the King James translation of the Bible. Also surprising is the fact that in other translations it does not appear even one time! The verse in which the King James Bible uses the word "Lucifer" is Isa. 14:12, which states: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are thou cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations!"


Now if you spoke or studied in Hebrew (let us not forget that is the language originally used in the Bible) you would find that the Hebraic translation of the verse reads differently: "How you have fallen from the heavens, shining star, son of the morning! You who weakens the nations are cut down to the ground."

Answer for yourself: Did you notice that the word "Lucifer" is not in the original text of the Bible at all!


In fact, Isa. 14:12 is the only place in the entire King James Bible that the word "Lucifer" appears. The word "Lucifer" never appears in the Hebrew text.


Answer for yourself: Then why is it in your and my Bible?


It should not be.

Answer for yourself: What about the inerrancy and infallibility question?

Answer for yourself: Are our Bibles correct or have then been tampered with?

Answer for yourself: And if we can prove that doctrines were "created" for selfish ends, then can we recognize them?

Answer for yourself: And after recognizing them will we continue to play into the hands of those who created these man-made doctrines by adhering to them in our churches?

I want you to read the context of the verses that surround these verses in Isaiah. After you have read them you should notice that the name "shining star, son of the morning" refers to the king of Babylon, and not the Devil.


Now I must ask you:


Answer for yourself: Why did the translators of the King James Bible of 1611 A.D. insert the word "Lucifer: in Isa. 14:12?

Answer for yourself: How did the words "Lucifer" and "Satan" become to mean the same individual?

Answer for yourself: If we can prove in this instance that words were added to our Bible to create or perpetuate a man-made doctrine, then has it occurred at other places in our Bibles and can we know where it occurs?

Answer for yourself: What are we currently practicing in our churches as part of our worship of God is directly attributed to "additions" to the text by men with "hidden agendas?"
Answer for yourself: When we locate such man-made traditions and doctrines, do we continue to follow such fables & false doctrines in our worship of God?

Answer for yourself: Are we truly worshipping our God in "Spirit and in truth?

The word "Lucifer" is Latin for:

1) Phosphorous
2) Venus as the morning star
3) The light-bringer which announces the dawn of the Sun
Answer for yourself: Could the whole concept of "Lucifer" but nothing more than an allegory for the planet Venus rising before the Sun? Is this "literalized Sunworship" and we not know it?

The name "Lucifer" is sometimes applied to the planet Venus as the evening star as well. Interestingly enough, the passage in Luke 10:18 ("I saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven") was thought by some to refer to the Isa. 14:12 passage in which the star was used metaphorically for the king of Babylon. According to the Funk and Wagnalls Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology, and Legends of 1984 this "Lucifer" would become the chief of fallen angels and the name for Satan before his rebellion. "Lucifer", as a name give to the devil, comes from this passage, which the early Catholic Church Fathers interpreted, without any coroborrating evidence, as relating to the apostasy & punishment of angelic leaders. Such an application was tied to the King of Babel according to Keil & Delitzsch in their Commentary on the Old Testament. Thus we now find that the Devil is become the chief of the fallen angels or evil spirits. Thus we find in Christian theology today that his personal name was originally Lucifer or light-bearer (Isa. 14:12) and is the term applied to the human king of Babylon. "Lucifer", in religion, is a name that was thus given to Satan by early Christians and was adopted without question in the middle ages because no one sought to study the Scriptures in Hebrew.

Let's summarize:

1) The words "Lucifer" and "Satan" have been connected by the erroneous association of Isa. 14:12 with Luke 10:18.
2) This association was made by Roman Catholic Church Fathers after the deaths of the Apostles.
3) The association of the "Devil" as "Satan" is a fabrication of Christian theology.
4) This is not the only religious fabrication in the Christian faith today.

Answer for yourself: Do you know the others?


One of the church fathers who was the leading proponent in creating this man-made theology which connected "Satan" with "Lucifer" was Origen. He is known for writing "The prophet says, 'How is Lucifer, who used to arise in the morning, fallen from heaven! He who assailed all nations is broken & beaten to the ground...' Most evidently by these words he is shown to have fallen from heaven, who formerly was Lucifer, and who used to arise in the morning...Nay, even the Saviour Himself teaches us, saying of the devil, 'Behold, I see Satan fallen from heaven like lightening..."


It is Origin who established for us today the link between Isa. 14:12 & Luke 10:18. Origen took two verses completely out of their original context and created a new doctrine for the church. From the time of Origen onward Lucifer & Satan become synonymous.


Hebrew scholars of the Jewish faith never associated Satan with the verse found in Isaiah. It would be the early Greek Catholic Fathers who would re-define the meaning of these two scriptures and create a new identity for Satan. This error in Christian theology became part of Christian beliefs around 210-225 A.D. This concept has been in place for over 1700 years and is rarely questioned today. But it should be. I don't want to shock you but you better be seated for this. There are many who see in these verses materials derived from a Canaanite myth concerning Helal, the Day Star or Lightgiver, son of Shahar the Dawn. Many connect with this myth the ultimate conflict of good versus bad as manifested on earth. We know today that there was a god Shahar in Canaanite (Ugaritic) mythology who was the god of dawn or the morning star. Connected to this myth is Helal the son of Shahar. Connected again to both is the mythological concept of the "mount of assembly of the gods in the far north" which is also the point around which all the constellations turned (the pole star). It was here, also, where the summit of the heavenly mountain & throne of the Most High was located. The passage in Isa. 14:12 preserves for us the Canaanite for a nature myth, which tells of the attempt of the morning star to scale the heights of heaven, thus surpassing all other stars only to be cast down to the earth by the victorious sun. Thus we see in this myth the story of the aspiring of a minor deity to reach the highest heaven where the supreme god dwelt. The goal of such was to replace the supreme ruler with the minor ruler. Such later was borrowed to describe the king of Babylon and his ambition for prominence which tragically ended in his downfall.


Let me ask you:


Answer for yourself: Did early Christian theologians substitute the name of "God" in the place of "the Canaanite most High god"?

Answer for yourself: Did early Christian theologians substitute the name "Lucifer" or "Satan" in the place of "Helal, son of Shahar?"

Answer for yourself: Have you heard this Canaanite account preached in your churches before but with new characters and identities?

Think of the numerous commentaries that have been written, sermons that have been preached, and prayers that have been prayed, which assume that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same.


Answer for yourself: Why is this false-doctrine perpetuated by Protestant denominations, seminaries, pastors & teachers of churches, and the Catholic Church?

Answer for yourself: Why have few discovered this error? Do they not have the resources to discover this lie?

You may be surprised to find out that they are aware of the error because many of their books document it.


Answer for yourself: Then why don't they preach the truth about this addition to the scriptures?


This is not only a matter of ignorance, but deception. Once this false-doctrine became part of the Christian Belief System there was no limit to the innovative teachings which would be built around it.


According to the Bible, except for I Chron. 21:1, Satan is not a proper name referring to a particular being and a demoniac one who is the antagonist or rival of God. It is, in it's original application, understood as a common noun meaning an adversary who opposes and obstructs. It is applied to human adversaries in I Sam. 29:4 where the Philistine questioned David's loyalty to them in battle and were fearful that David would become a "satan" against them in battle. In II Sam. 19:22 David accused the sons of Zeruiah of beings "satans" to his restoration to the throne of Israel. In I Kings 11:14 the Lord raised up "a satan" against Solomon in the person of Hadad the Edomite who stood against Solomon in his idolatries. In I Kings 11:23 & 25 we see God raised up another "satan" against Solomon as an adversary to his rule.


Satan (meaning adversary) as a verb is used of prosecution in a law court (Psm. 109:6) and the role of an antagonist in general (Psm. 38:20-21; 109:4,20,29). The angel of the Lord who was sent to obstruct Baalam in Num. 22:31 was chosen by God to fulfill the role of "a satan" in order to oppose and obstruct Baalam. God sent "satan" to Baalam. This angel was accomplishing good for God but was a "satan" toward Baalam. The will of God would be done because of the testing and trial of Baalam. There is nothing in the Hebrew to suggest that this "opposition" presented to Baalam was the permanent function of that or any other particular angel. "The Satan" as a role or function of a particular angel first appears around 520 B.C. in Zech. 3 and then in Job 1-2.


In I Chron. 21:1 it states that "Satan stood up against Israel and moved David to number Israel".

Yet however in 2 Sam 24:1 1 we find that is was God who moved David to number Israel:

And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. (KJV)

Answer for yourself: Is God and Satan the same? Is "Satan" just part of the "neteru"?

Notice there is no article before the noun, thus more than likely Satan seems to be a real proper name. In Zech 3, Satan acts as a prosecutor in a celestial court. In Job 1-2 Satan questions Job's integrity and suggests to the Lord that Job be tested to prove his love and commitment to God. In all these accounts "Satan" or "satans" are clearly in subjection & subordinate to God. In neither of the accounts listed are there "warfare" occurring between The God and His Satan or satans. The only warfare going on is between men's flesh in it's submission to the will and purposes of God. Satan, the angel, is clearly obedient to all of God's commands is unable to act of his own free will and cannot do anything without God's permission. Nowhere is he in any sense a rival of God. I think you should take a long look at I Chron. 21:1 where it states that Satan is said to have incited David to take a census of Israel, which resulted in the death of 70,000 Israelites (21:14). If we contrast that with 2 Sam. 24:1 it states "the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He (God) moved David against them to say, 'Go number Israel and Judah'". God caused David to take the census. Notice that one scripture blames YHWH; thus we find the truth that in God all exists; both powers of opposition as well as attraction, positive, and negative; the All in the One.


Answer for yourself: How do we reconcile?


It is rather simple. God is David's adversary (satan-small "s") since David is relying on the flesh for the defense and protection of Israel instead of God. God being angered in David's rejection of Him and His protection and provision, dispatched an adversary (satan) to David. It happens that the adversary (satan) dispatched happened to be "the" Satan, himself. Satan obeys God's wishes and judges David and Israel for the king's transgression and sin.


Answer for yourself: Did Satan fight God or David?

Answer for yourself: Who disobeyed God?

Answer for yourself: Who needed to repent here; Satan or David?
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^^^ The most well said thing I' ve heard in years!

Last poster meant THIS is the best thing I've heard in years:

Yeah, well you god is a pathetic wannabe that does not give it's followers either a personal relationship, does not abide in their bodies as His Temple, nor does it endue you with any power. All you have left is a lifeless religion built upon the imagination of fallen mankind. If you actually had any power I would challenge you to spiritual battle, but you are just a retard who does not know any better.

Well, they created us right?

So why not worship them?

Thread: 2012 Are the Aliens here to Harvest us Like the Animals we act like?? Topic about pretty much the same thing.

It seems to me that it is a way to make people feel weak and insignificant and a nice way to make people not fight back when they come to harvest us ;)

The day that blind pagans can properly interpret the Bible, is the day they will serve ice cream in Hell.


I can easily answer all of these questions as could any well educated person such as I trained in ancient languages. The word "Lucifer" was never inserted by the King James Translaters. Words that were added are certified with an italics, of which the Hebrew word for Lucifer, "Heylel" literally means "bright one" or "Daystar". It is the proper name that Christians identify as the Devil. also recognized by occultist world round as the proper name for their god.

Sorry, long winded fail.

They do not worship space aliens. They worship imaginary beings.

Jehova was an alien.
Read the biblical passage about Ezekiel's encounter with Jehova.

Jehova comes down in a thunderous space ship and Ezekiel sees 4 entities (aliens) on board the space ship.

This is a lot more evidence to suggest aliens exist than there is of Jesus.
The OP must have read, "The God's of Eden" by William Bramley. It promotes the exact same theory and connects it all into history.

Are you fucking nuts lady or what?
Please explain to us what kind of special powers your God gives you?

Can you walk on water?
or shoot flames out your ass?


Spiritual battle?
Forget to take your meds this morning?

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Because they have done a poor job.

ummm yea I know that.Did you not read that whole post?MAybe you didn't see this part
on my post where I said The Semites were cloned by Jehovah, on Mars, and transported to Earth.

Last Edited by danhow on 09/09/2009 03:15 AM

I have no idea.

Last Edited by mj-13 on 09/09/2009 03:19 AM

So pretty much what you are saying Wingedlion is that you
are part of the Dark forces or Reptilian Agenda.
The Universal Creator still loves you because we are
all cells of the Universe whether dark or light.
You can have all the hate you want for humans
but there is still love for you.

Do you have proof to back that up or are you just telling
another fairy tail?
I take it you don't even know the defintion of occultist.
Let me feel you in.Anybody can see from the way you talk that you more then likely arn't trained in anything.
It is more like you are possesed.

oc·cult-
Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.
2. Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable.
3. Available only to the initiate; secret: occult lore. See Synonyms at mysterious.
4. Hidden from view; concealed.
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Adjective
1. involving mystical or supernatural phenomena or powers
2. beyond ordinary human understanding
3. secret or mysterious

the Bible clearly states the Creator created everything -- the entire universe and everything in it, including space aliens if there are any :-)

specifically it states The Lord created everything in the heavens, everything on earth and everything below the earth -- this covers if our alien friends are actually intraterrestrials LOL

if and when alien type beings do appear we are to preach them the gospel -- the Bible says preach the gospel to every CREATURE -- that may not be an exaggeration!!

also the OT reiterates we are to love the aliens and treat them as fellow countrymen -- be hospitable to them LOL

and how could we do differently as the Bible tells us we as Christians are ourselves aliens and sojourners -- citizens of heaven -- here on earth as ambassadors for Christ?

so we can be kind and loving to our fellow aliens, wherever they come from. if they turn out to be enemies we can feed and clothe them, thus heaping hot coals on their heads! LOL

regardless the Bible is clear we are to love them and tell them about Jesus

love peace and joy

rb