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bush keeps trying to shove GM foods down the EU´s throat-they have repeatedly blocked them, from their market and most of the GM foods come from USA.
Since when does it benefit OUR government, to promote monsanto and the like businesses. In June 2003, President George W. Bush made the issue of lifting an 8-year European Union ban on genetically modified (GM) plants a matter of US national strategic priority. These foods have the potential to destroy our bodies and disrupt all biodiversity left; leaving in its wake of ´abundant food´ will turn into famine very rapidly.

Follow the collusion of Monsanto and petrol companies-an interesting symbiosis...

Why have so many heritage/heirloom seeds been outlawed-SEEDS of food-HMMMMM

GMO(GEO)
This acronym stands for “genetically modified organisms,” or "genetically engineered food" Nothing close to Green Acres-more like blood acres-
Organisms we are suppose to eat???-it could contain human dna in the food or fish/lizard/buffalo/whatever-it is not "food" it is frankenfood and capable of making physiological changes-soon mad cow will be nothing compared to mad human-consuming human dna in this new organism food...just like the dead feed they fed our cattle-learning that the spongiform disease kills...

While genetic “modification” has been an agricultural practice for more than 100 years, it has traditionally involved cross-breeding two plants within the same species in order to create a hardier or better-tasting crop. The breeding of a new plant variety involved fine-tuning for the desired characteristics over the course of four or five plant generations, allowing the plant’s new genetic structure to stabilize before the seeds were released to market for wider cultivation. This careful directing of plant characteristics allowed for plant diversity and for adaptability within distinct bio-regions.

Modern genetic modification practices are much different. The GMOs now entering our food supply are coming from plants that have been created by a process called “biolistics,” whereby microbullets covered with the DNA of a foreign species are shot into cells of a “host” plant for the purpose of cross-breeding. Most cells thus assaulted die; the few that survive are propagated into plants for their seed, and from there a new plant form never before seen on earth is born.

The FDA currently does not require labeling of genetically engineered foodstuffs; the consumer right to know is only enforced by the FDA when it deems that the food has undergone a “qualitative change” by virtue of an ingredient or a process. The FDA has thus effectively stated that willfully manipulating a plant’s genetic structure by mating it with a species that would not naturally be a viable breeding partner, thereby creating a new life form, does not constitute a qualitative change to the plant itself. Go figure.

Meteors and volcanoes are dangerous-but what can we do outside of preparing for the inevitable is prudent. However, very little can be done outdside of that. This issue is one I hope the majority grasps and understand that massive steps need to be taken-to stop this frankenfood and the frankensteins trying to promote the death of humanity, by starvation. Privatization of water is being pushed too-see any connections?

RFID chips to buy and sell, to acquire food and water-Many say no way-watch how quickly it changes if starvation is the option....watch how multinationals corporations make themselves God.

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At the forefront of agricultural genetic engineering is Monsanto, the chemical company that gave the world DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange, and rBGH. Monsanto, and its colleagues such as DuPont, Dow, and Novartis, have all in recent years created “life sciences” divisions as they enter the world of agribusiness. Monsanto has been particularly aggressive in its pursuit of agbiotech dominance, not only in terms of developing genetically engineered seed but also in acquiring seed companies.


DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange-looks nothing like orage juice...

USDA, the FDA, and the EPA have shifted or bypassed regulatory standards in their zeal to support these firms and their new technologies. HMMMMMMM
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In 1995, when Roundup Ready soybeans were still in development, Monsanto successfully petitioned the EPA to raise the safe and allowable levels of glyphosate (the active ingredient in Roundup) in soybeans from 6 parts per million to 20 PPM – what was considered “safe” for human consumption in 1987 was more than tripled eight years later. Because the soybean can withstand unlimited doses of Roundup, use of the herbicide has increased in many fields where these soybeans are planted. In 1997, 15 percent of America’s soybean crop came from Roundup Ready seed; by 1998 that figure was up to 38 percent. Currently, Monsanto has supplied Roundup Ready seed for nearly 60 percent of the American crop. The company’s stated goal was to control 100 percent of the soybean crop in America by the year 2000.


Do you really believe that FDA and EPA should ´push´ this crap on us-our taxdollars working against us some more?
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It is a sad state I see-why worry about it, eh???


Cries of hunger in a few more years will only last for a while...sleep, sleep, sleep, the awakened understand. flower
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bush went to belgium to help push GMO foods down the EU throat-

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

This will not help our trade deficits at all.
This will not smooth over our disenfranchised ´allies´ who have all but left...


JUST TOO REAL
Awareness about this important issue is growing in America. Already we are cultivating genetically engineered soy, cotton, corn, rapeseed (canola), potatoes, tomatoes, and squash, and there are many other plant varieties in development. Given the accelerated pace at which genetic engineering technology is moving, those who believe a more prudent and public approach is warranted need to speak up now, and help to educate others. If you value “clean” food and your right to choose those foods, if you are concerned about ecological balance and sustainable farming practices, if you love to garden and want to have a wide variety of seed choice or the ability to save your seed, or if you feel inherently opposed to forced breeding between species, it is important to make your views known and your voice heard.
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Monsanto=Nonatmos

Better start growing your own, if you got the land.
The EU has already started caving in on this
matter. (There was something in the media about
GM maize on "try-out" the other day - sorry, no link.)

I hope the ecologically minded farmers keep their wits about them long enough to resist this and protect their seed banks. I don´t really know how all that works, though. Seems like Novartis handles most of all that over here.
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they were going to put plastic precursors into the asian rice crop to half grow ready plastic .. if the pollen gets out and it will - asia will be poisoned .
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Great, plastic rice-that will do a body good-no more worries when you are 6 feet under-eh???

Most of the native maize plants in Mexico are contaminated with GMO terminator seeds-several months back a farmer in Canada had lost a case against Monsanto-their sterile seeds contaminated his fields since they plant whereever they want...he was left with the enormous fine from monsanto and he will no longer be able to farm.
[link to www.biotech-monitor.nl]

[link to www.citizen.org]

[link to courses.che.umn.edu]

[link to www.agbiotechnet.com]

[link to www.rag.org.au]

This is a real threat-what are you going to do about it? Hang out on forums wondering if german guy and aussie are right, or is it zetas??? Wake UP
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Older info
Landmark lawsuit against the FDA

As executive director of the Alliance for Bio-Integrity, Steven Druker is
the co-ordinating attorney in a landmark lawsuit against the FDA calling for
the withdrawal of all genetically engineered foods in the USA until they
have gone through adequate safety tests, and the subsequent labelling of all
GE foods. The lawsuit has been filed by an unprecedented coalition of public
interest organisations, eminent life scientists, and seventeen mainstream
religious leaders. The International Center for Technology Assessment, which
is supporting the lawsuit, says the quality and breadth of the 26 plaintiffs
is without precedent in their long experience of such cases of litigation.

The plaintiffs are using official US government papers to show how the FDA
claimed GMOs were safe in the face of broad disagreement from its own
experts. The FDA was required to provide over 40,000 pages of internal
documents during the lawsuit. For example, when the FDA approved the "flavr
savr" tomato, which has also been sold in British supermarkets, it did so
ignoring statements from its own scientists that tests involving feeding the
tomato to rats led to a pattern of stomach lesions that raised a safety
issue and therefore failed to confirm that it was safe for human
consumption. Safety testing of subsequent GMOs has been even less stringent
and in many cases non-existent.

"Every genetically engineered food in the US is on the market illegally and
should be recalled immediately for rigorous safety testing," Mr Druker says.
"The FDA has deliberately unleashed a host of potentially harmful foods onto
American dinner tables, in blatant violation of US law, in order to promote
the interests of the biotech industry. Based on systematic
misrepresentation, the US set improper standards for the release of GMOs.
Britain and many other countries have largely followed the US, without
knowledge of the facts."


Warning to British Government

Mr Druker is in the UK to present his case to the Government and to
agricultural leaders. At the end of last week he gave a special presentation
to MPs at the House of Commons, at the invitation of Alan Simpson, MP, and
also had a private meeting with Michael Meacher, Minister of State for the
Environment.

He was joined for the presentations by Professor Terje Traavik, scientific
advisor to the Norwegian government and one of the world´s leading experts
in viruses and horizontal gene transfer. Prof. Traavik warned the British
Government that the recombinant DNA technologies used to develop all of the
GMOs on the market today are so imprecise and unpredictable that they do not
even deserve to be called a technology.

He said that recent research indicates that artificial genetic material
released into the environment through agricultural, medical and industrial
applications can be incorporated into the genetic material of the cells of
all species, including our own. This process, called horizontal gene
transfer, is already known to create new viruses and bacteria that cause
diseases and to lead to harmful mutations, cancers, and acute toxic shock
and autoimmune responses.


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Druker´s Anti-Biotech Themes

Druker argues the following points:

1. Genetic engineering is inherently riskier than traditional breeding.

2. Transplanted genes act independently of the host organism´s intricate control system.

3. Foreign genes enter the host DNA haphazardly and disrupt the region into which they enter.

4. There is mounting evidence of genetically engineered (GE) plants with substantial and unexpected alterations in chemical composition.

5. There have been suspicious changes in laboratory animals that consume GE foods.

6. GE foods contain unique hazards.

7. The government has allowed GE foods to be marketed without testing.

8. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) falsely claims expert consensus regarding the safety of GE foods.

9. A large portion of human foodborne illness develops over a long time through repeated doses of harmful substances.
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This has some connections to why so many scientists have been killed-world class genome scientists and many who were microbiologists or bio hazards experts-the world over. Can´t convince the sheeple if they can access info-dark ages right around the corner if you take the time to look...insidious
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Am I the only weary of a "safe" foodstuff coming from CHINA?
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Yes, it seems many like the idea of begging monsanto for their frankenfoods ROBOTdance


Sad state of affairs-and by the apathy it will be way too late when they realize.


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"relatively safe".....

What in THEE hell does THAT mean?
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What proof do you have that they are using human DNA in the remake of these foodstuffs?
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What proof?


rofl

human dna in rice? Some people will never get it-let them eat the crap-let their health reap from their ignorance.

It is on folks...GMO is already in your stores and many products...unbeknownst to most...but still very damaging to mankind-


[link to www.seedfest.co.uk]

[link to www.greenpeople.org]
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Shadow Dancer, I have known about this stuff for years...I think wheat was one of the first tampered with grains, I developed serious allergies to wheat. If following the logic of, "we are what we eat", the thinking person must give pause for what havoc is being wreaked in the human body ON A CELLULAR LEVEL after a steady diet of this crap. I have heard from others who stopped eating wheat, because it made them unable to think straight and gave them nightmares...! Those who have developed more sensitivity in themselves will notice the difference in the affects the GM foods have upon them, as well as the fact that GM´s just DON´T taste as good. But sadly too many rush around, out of tune with their own Organic rythyms, and JUST AREN´T PAYING ATTENTION TO THE WARNING SIGNALS! }}}*** If more people made a conscious effort to SLOW DOWN and REFLECT and turn their listening INWARD...they may discover a whole new level of discernment and discrimination opening for them...TRY IT PEOPLE! The Earth needs you to ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ rose..flower..grouphug..flower..rose
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there IS an article in Surfing the Apocalypse from 2 weeks ago, about human dna being used in rice, and deemed ok for consumption. It also spoke of the controversy this caused. I think this was about some Chinese scientist who made the experiment to test the rice.
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Soylent Green
Hmm....so what exactly is Olestra, anyway?

Soylent Green

Starring Charlton Heston, Edward G. Robinson

MGM/UA Home Video

Rated PG

97 minutes

Color 1973


-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------
Review by Tamara I. Hladik
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In 2022, New York City is populated with 40 million people, half of whom are unemployed. The air is smoggy and sooty, and the sun bakes everything, everyday, at 90 degrees. Overpopulation and the destruction of the environment may have rendered human life cheap, but food--that is, real food--is quite expensive. A jar of real strawberry jam costs $150, if it´s available--supermarkets don´t exist anymore. The government now dispenses rations of food substances made by the Soylent corporation: Soylent Yellow, Soylent Red, and the newest product, Soylent Green.


But even these Soylent products are in short supply. Riot police are always dispatched when Soylent is distributed, because violence kicks in when the food runs out. Thorn (Heston) is a member of this modern, beleaguered police force, which pilfers every crime scene for the necessities of life. When Thorn is called in to investigate the death of a Soylent Corporation executive, his take is a treasure trove: a towel, a bar of soap, paper, and some real food--celery, a couple of apples, and half a pound of beef.

But what at first seems to Thorn a clumsy robbery soon seems a highly-managed assassination. But ironically, it is the death of Thorn´s aging friend, Sol (Robinson), one of the few who still remembered what food was, what plenty meant, that cracks the case and unmasks a conspiracy. It is only through Sol´s death that Thorn understands what the world has lost and what it has become...

Dystopia, euthanasia and all the rest

Soylent Green is a basic, cautionary tale of what could become of humanity physically and spiritually if it doesn´t nurture the planet that nurtures it. There is little in this film that has not been seen in its brethren: faceless, oppressive crowds; sheep mentality; the corrosion of the soul, of imagination, of collective memory. Quirkily enough, Soylent Green often succeeds despite its director, whose tendency is to overuse Charlton Heston to illustrate every nuance of this dystopia.

Ironically, the film´s most powerful moments do not belong to Heston, who makes a dubious, ambiguous hero. It is Robinson who lays claim to the most moving passages of the film. As Sol he speaks frequently throughout the film of what the planet was like, and he sounds like any old-timer of any generation. But in this bleak future, as one of the few who remembers, he is the film´s conscience and soul. When Sol finally succumbs to despair and relinquishes himself to a government euthanasia center, Thorn sees glimpses of the Earth´s lost legacy. In his world, the average person only sees blue skies and green forests via canned video during their last 20 minutes of life in a government euthanasia center.

The film definitely has its moments, when its imagery is powerful and haunting. The sight of inexorably rolling front-loaders indiscriminately scooping up masses of squirming humanity from the streets is as powerful as anything else the film has to say. Mostly, though, the profundity of humanity´s transformation is dealt with in less than a masterful manner. This theme has been conducted better by others.

One of my favorite scenes was when Sol goes to the Exchange, one of the last crippled vestiges of democracy left in the city. There he has a terrific scene with Celia Lovsky (who played the Vulcan matriarch T´Pau in Amok Time). As the elderly, as people who have living knowledge of what was, they are us, and bridge the gap between now and this possible future. -- Tamara



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Z, I´ve never seen that movie, I will rent it...it sounds very relevant.
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If you haven´t seen it I think you would really like it-It is very timely and applies even more so now.

I am sure you will find it appropriate to these times. Take care everyone-it is much more serious than many realize-molecular biology is impacted dramatically by GMO and many other new diseases and plagues will be unleashed with Monsanto/Dupont ´technology´. The petro companies and these guys are buying up all the seed companies-in the EU they are outlawing many natural strains filled with diversity. Lose biodiversity in the food chain, lose life. They are waging war on food and will bring famine-and they are pushing for the privatization of water...any patterns there?

Lots of Crimson Red Flags

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~ ~ ~ Did anyone read "The Gods Of Eden" by William Bramley ? The part where it talks about the Plagues in Europe in the Middle Ages, very note worthy is that just prior to the outbreaks, the townspeople would observe strange lights, UFO activity in their local sky, followed by sightings of the "Grim Reaper" in their fields. Of course this character wasn´t actually "reaping" but the swishing motion back and forth of his arm as he walked through the rows of their crops, was an activity that to their mind was associated with REAPING. The wearing of the hooded robe was to obscure his non-human appearance as he SPRAYED PLAGUE VIRUS on their food crops. The image of the Grim Reaper now lives on as part of the story board of the collective consciousness, with all but a very few, aware of the true origins of this image.. <><><><> A security guard at a supposedly non functioning factory belonging to Dupont and situated in a remote place, spoke of a UFO craft being housed there, and during the time period when it was a productive site, more than one employee claimed that the Head guy there had anomalous powerful and unpleasant abilites. As he would stroll down the aisles overseeing their work, etc... he occassionally would choose one particular worker to pause in front of. This one employee in particular had gone through some torturous abuse at some point in his past. This was a buried secret in him. When the boss stopped in front of him, he locked eyes with the man and PLUMBED THE DEPTHS of his psyche, stirring and summoning up this memory of extreme pain within the man....and kept looking at him as the man was brought to the point of tears. The boss then smiled sadistically, broke his gaze away, and moved on.
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It is rather creepy-I cannot believe a fully functioning member of mankind would seek to wipe out massive amounts of people-if they were truly human. They may look human but there is no ´heart´-like a automaton. This is a Pandoras box and I fear it has already been opened.


flower


Save seeds and if one can get any heirloom seeds from farmers or relatives who garden grab them now and insulate and freeze now. Keep gathering...it will help in the near future.


Beyond Prophecies and Predictions by Moira Timms is really a nice overview of the current playing field.
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Shadow Dancer ~ I just checked out some reviews on "Beyond Prophecies and Predictions" It looks like my kind of book, Thanks for mentioning! ... hf
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Gives some background info regarding the Bible, Mayan prophecies, Edgar Cayce, and some other areas she covers. One point I will say is that with as much research and yrs I have been ´studying´ I find her work to be very credible and the depth of understanding she has is very apparent to me. I was very familiar with many of the areas and things she covers-but I had those lightbulb moments that were paradigms-enjoy Dolphin you will gain alot from the reading of that one-I am sureimo
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"8. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) falsely claims expert consensus regarding the safety of GE foods."

The FDA has trashed good science by adopting the bad. Let´s look into the primary reason.

If these foods are to alter us genetically, there is a reason. Maybe we can see the results by looking at filled doctors´ offices, clinics, hospitals. So many are having health problems and don´t know why. They range anywhere from the flu to internal health disease, most suffering from alimentary problems. All of the money that goes into pharmacies, medical bills, and ultimately, the undertaker is sucking this country dry.

The object of these franken foods may well be to dull the already dulled senses, causing us to become docile and ready to allow TPTB have sway over every facet of our lives without protest, their goal. They have all of the world´s wealth, so it´s not for money they do this.

Monsanto and their ilk can take the statistics to the heads of other governments, with the results produced from these franken foods, in order to entice them to allow such for their own citizens.

The spread of illicit drugs, sex, and porno has already softened up an unsuspecting public, by dulling the minds of our young, for this next step. Those of us with any sensibilies left must warn others.

Thanks for the warning, Shadowdancer. I will e-mail the info to my family, encouraging them to pass it on.
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bump for education....hf
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"Take care everyone-it is much more serious than many realize-molecular biology is impacted dramatically by GMO and many other new diseases and plagues will be unleashed with Monsanto/Dupont ´technology´. The petro companies and these guys are buying up all the seed companies-in the EU they are outlawing many natural strains filled with diversity. Lose biodiversity in the food chain, lose life. They are waging war on food and will bring famine-and they are pushing for the privatization of water...any patterns there?

Lots of Crimson Red Flags"

What!!! What did you say!!....

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People

Please research this further as it is much worse than many think. The dangerous impacts on our health are greater than they will disclose.


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What kind of rice & wheat products are safe to buy? I eat rice all the time, wheatstuffs too.
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This is something I have been worried about for a long time. I have recently made a list of seeds I want to get. There are some good websites for organic heirloom seeds.

Monsanto is a horrible company. They have recently bought the largest seed company.
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