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We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.

 
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We can know the hour....five doves post...remarkable post


We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.

Revelation 3:3

"Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard; and hold fast and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what HOUR I will come upon thee."

So, on the converse, if we do watch He will not come as a thief and we will know the hour (time frame) that He will come upon us-

Hebrew meaning of HOUR is TIME FRAME!!!

What time frame you might ask??

The RH TIME FRAME of 48 hours!!!

So, if we watch (RH), we can/will know the time frame because we know it is during RH sometime!

Thank you Lord for your MERCY and GRACE

As we wait for the blessed hope, the glorious appearing of our great God and savior!!!!

For those who are watching and can see the signs it can be known that our current Rosh Hashanah is a very possible day for the Rapture. However, which day? Since it is a 48 hour long festival you still would not know THE day because which of the two would it be? Even today with NASA and our technology is still uncertain as to when Rosh Hashanah actually starts. The fact that Biblically it took the confirmation of two witnesses rules out NASA pinpointing the exact day to the minute. What if it were a cloudy evening? In fact, different websites are saying different dates. If you cannot even know the day then you surely cannot pinpoint the hour, so still NO ONE KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR!

There are many more reasons that the Rapture has to be on a Rosh Hashanah.

IF anyone is not have complete understanding of the Fall Feasts and their fulfillment, this is a great, simple study:

The name Rosh Hashanah means the (Jewish) New Year,which commemorates God’s creation of the world. It also is the following:

Tishri 1
The day no man can know the day or the hour
The day of the new moon
The day of the blowing of the Trumpets
The day of the last trump
The day of the awakening blast
The day of the Resurrection
The beginning of the 10 days of awe
One long day
The Day of the King (coronation)
The day the King takes a bride (wedding)
The day that all men will pass under the rod
The day that God divides mankind into 3 categories; the Wholly Righteous, Wholly Wicked, and the Intermediates.

Rosh Hashanah is also known as Yom Teurah.

Teruah means “an awakening blast”. A theme associated with Rosh Hashanah is the theme “to awake”. Teruah is also translated as “shout”.

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” (1 Corinthians 15:51-53)

“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17)


On Day of Atonement the High Priest goes into the Temple to cleanse it in case it has been defiled. Therefore, the Second Coming, when Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives to cleanse the Temple that has been defiled by the Antichrist coincides with Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur.

Please note that in between Rosh Hashanah and Day of Atonement is a 7 day period which would in effect represent the 7 years of Tribulation in between Rosh Hashanah (the Rapture) and Day of Atonement (Second Coming) The entire time period of Rosh Hashanah through Day of Atonement is know as the 10 days if Awe,

Everything fits too perfectly for it not to be from God!!

I wish you would please post this differing view along with the facts. It may even encourage someone to repent as the Day that No One Knows is coming soon!

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"Remarkable Discovery by Tom Gaston"

Hey! I think that I might have discovered something very significant tonight. I was talking to my friend Jeff Clyde out on the east coast in Pennslyvania and we got talking about the 9 - 11 event which took place in 2001. I spoke the following to Jeff on the phone. I said................

"Hey Jeff, remember back in 2001 that we were both talking on the phone the night before September 11th ( on 9 - 10 ) and I said to you before we got off the phone that it would be nice if God gave us a "seven day warning" just prior to Rosh HaShanah First Tishri just like God gave Noah a seven day warning ( we were both looking for the Lord to return in 2001). And then I said.....Do you remember Jeff what happened the next morning? He said yes! The event of 9 - 11 happened that morning and my wife Evonne called you in the morning and told you that "it was beginning." Then we all went nuts for about 7 days until we sadly found out that the Lord didn't come on Rosh HaShanah in 2001.


Now tonight while I was talking to Jeff I said I am going to check the Jewish calendar for 2009 and see which Jewish day that September 11th lands on. Hold on folks! This year September 11th lands on the 22nd of Elul. Count 7 days from the 22nd of Elul and it brings you to the 29 of Elul / the eve of Rosh HaShanah!

So here is what I did! I went back to the year 2000, and beginning with the year 2000 I checked all the years to the gregorian year of 2020 in order to see if there were anymore 7 day countdowns starting from September 11th to Rosh HaShanah of each year, or at least within a 1 day close proximity or "eve" of Rosh HaShanah. The following below is what I discovered.


2000 - Sept. 11th fell on Elul 11th........Does not work

2001 - Sept. 11th fell on Elul 23rd........seven days......24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, First Tishri = 7 days

2002 - Sept. 11th fell on 5th Tishri........Does not work....From Sept. 11th, 2001 to Sept. 11th, 2002 = 1 year

2003 - Sept. 11th fell on 14th Elul......Does not work....From...2002.....to.....2003 = 2 years

2004 - Sept. 11th fell on 25th Elul......Does not work....From...2003......to.....2004 = 3 years

2005 - Sept. 11th fell on 7th Elul........Does not work....From...2004......to.....2005 = 4 years

2006 - Sept. 11th fell on 18th Elul......Does not work....From...2005......to.....2006 = 5 years

2007 - Sept. 11th fell on 28th Elul......Does not work....From...2006.....to.....2007 = 6 years

2008 - Sept. 11th fell on 11th Elul......Does not work....From...2007.....to.....2008 = 7 years

2009 - Sept. 11th falls on 22nd Elul........Seven days......23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 Elul / eve of Rosh HaShanah = 7 days


This number of years and pattern between 2001 and 2009, I believe, is very significant! Here you can see that 7 years pass ( the number 7 stands for "divine completion and perfection" ), and then the 8th year ( the number 8 Stands for "New beginnings" ), which is the year 2009 we then have a 7 day pattern unfold to the eve of Rosh HaShanah, which is the 29th of Elul. The number 29 in biblical mathematics stands for "Departure." Will we depart this earth this year on the Eve of Rosh HaShanah ? I do believe we will!


2010 - Sept. 11th falls on 3rd Tishri........Does not work

2011 - Sept. 11th falls on 12th Elul.........Does not work

2012 - Sept. 11th falls on 24th Elul.........Does not work

2013 - Sept. 11th falls on 7th Tishri.........Does not work

2014 - Sept. 11th falls on 16th Elul.........Does not work

2015 - Sept. 11th falls on 27th Elul.........Does not work

2016 - Sept. 11th falls on 8th Elul...........Does not work

2017 - Sept. 11th falls on 20th Elul.........Does not work

2018 - Sept. 11 falls on 2nd Tishri..........Does not work

2019 - Sept. 11th falls on 11th Elul.........Does not work

2020 - Sept. 11th falls on 22nd Elul..seven days...23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 Elul / eve of Rosh HaShanah = 7 days


It isn't until you get all the way to the gregorian year of 2020 ( 11 years pass ) that the same seven day pattern of days lines up with the year 2009. Now putting this information together with the following gematria, and this information which I have discovered becomes very convincing and powerful!

First Tishri / Aleph = 1 / Tau = 400 Shin = 300 Resh = 200 Yod = 10 / total = 911, or 9 - 11

What we have here folks is a "divine pattern." And I believe that God is signaling to us that we are going to leave this planet at the END of Elul 29th / beginning of First Tishri. Yes! This year!
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Re: We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.
hebrew meaning of hour = brief time, moment.

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and the root of the word....to look at or to, regard, gaze at or about

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Please get with the divine plan OP.

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AND WHAT IF THE "THIEF" ALREADY CAME....

AND YALL SLEEPING....

TOUGH ANT IT...
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Re: We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.
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No BETTER time than THIS Rosh Hashanah ?

After 10 years of watching…..and waiting….and hoping….and praying….now, wanting…and needing….. THIS Rosh Hashanah is THE date I hope for the Rapture!!!!

Why?

Unless some things have just been a BIG coincidence….
1) The DOW drop LAST Rosh Hashanah of -777.68; with the .68 POINTING to20THIS Rosh Hashanah
2) The “first” sighting of “another” Christ……on June 11, 1988….and it is 7770 days from then until this Rosh Hashanah.
3) A PERSONAL Revelation? Earlier this year, I “guessed” the DOW would end down 100 points, after being first down 150 in the morning, then up 150 in the afternoon; at which point I just made a bet with myself it would reverse 250 points to finish down 100. It did finish down…..exactly 100 points….and the “voice in my head” said: “You are more right about these things than you know….” Coincidence? I hope not!!
4) Yesterday's post about Sept 11, being 7 days until Rosh Hashanah this year....just like in 2001!

Other Reasons there is NO BETTER time than THIS Rosh Hashanah….my thoughts…
1) The world is still poised on a great financial abyss, especially the US, with all the new debt we’ve created in the past 12 months.
2) ALL the world’s leaders are in the US at the UN the week of Rosh=2 0Hashanah. How CONVENIENT!!!!!!!!!!! ????
3) UN wants new global currency to replace the US Dollar
4) Obama is stilling campaigning for “King of the World”
5) Israel still MUST go after Iran, before they have the nuclear bomb….SOON !! ??
6) Coincidence? The History Channel just began an 8 week new series with the tag line: “What do you call it when end of the world prophecies collide with current events?” WOW….what a line!! I call it: The Rapture and the Tribulation. They call is: The Nostradamus Effect.
7) Sept 25, Massive Islam prayer day on the steps of the US Capital…..UGH!!!
8) Sept 24, Obama will chair the UN committee meeting of the Security Council; the first time a US President has ever done this.
9) Swine Flu – world epidemic ready to burst forth this fall in the northern hemisphere
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Re: We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.
hebrew meaning of hour = brief time, moment.

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and the root of the word....to look at or to, regard, gaze at or about

[link to www.studylight.org]

Please get with the divine plan OP.

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thanks for thebump
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AND WHAT IF THE "THIEF" ALREADY CAME....

AND YALL SLEEPING....

TOUGH ANT IT...
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you too.
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I'm going to bookmark this to study. I have the flu and am totally braindead right now. But thanks for posting! Just glancing, it looks great.
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Wouldn't that be great? This year?

Pretty sure we have a little over 3 to go though ...
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Interesting as this month's days and dates match what happened to me in april of 2003. I gave my will to god on the 18th, pre-dawn. On the evening, pre-sunset, of the 20th I was energized ala supernaturally. This energizing went for two days, then it was like the parachute opened on the 23rd. Looking back on it, it was really the 20th thru the 24th.

My "clearing" was a gradual thing.

Yes, that event, that summer of 2003, made me Woo Woo; I have been waiting ever since.

But, if you know God, you know God makes us wait (some).
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I'm going to bookmark this to study. I have the flu and am totally braindead right now. But thanks for posting! Just glancing, it looks great.
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thanks for your interest!

here's a little tutor on why harpazo is on RH..

maybe this year!

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AND WHAT IF THE "THIEF" ALREADY CAME....

AND YALL SLEEPING....

TOUGH ANT IT...

you too.
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Its a relevant question. It brings into the equation free will. In other words, maybe nothing happens, that we perceive, or we do not remember any change, due to free will. Meaning, if we do know we will lose our free will.

But.

I look at reality as a series of astral planes, the higher one you are on the closer to god you are. This is occultism 101. Closer to god = more love and more knowledge.

I think Earth is about to move to a higher astral plane. This not only includes an infusion of love, but knowledge.

We are in a state on sin right now, or seperation from god, one aspect is knowledge of god. Now, if we go up, we innately know god more, losing an amount of free will, ie the free will to deny god.

One part of Biblical prophecy insinuates a loss of human life. Nancy Lieder agrees with this. The Natzi's, with eugenics, agreed with this. I agree with this, maybe for different reasons. The way I see it is, all those that are not ready to move up will be sent to a place/planet that is not going up.

But, this is Earth changing. If Earth is where the only begotten son is incarnating, meaning not incarnating anywhere else, then when Earth changes, the whole universe changes.

It is interesting to me that Nancy Leider states that when we go up (Nancy calls it a change in density), there are less stars in the sky. Nancy says that is because less stars are there. I say maybe less stars are there BECAUSE there are less humans on Earth, after the change...
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here's mark biltz on where we are. he's the best IMO

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OP, in early October of this year, will you be cleaning the egg off your face, denying the egg on your face, or ignorant of the egg on your face.

I'll say it now with surety,

IF OP does not disappear in a pillar of rapturous light on September 29th of this year, as he states the true christian faith shall, He will be proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, an utter imbecile.

OP, keep in your mind, and commit to your memory the surety with which you speak here today. If, and when these events you predict with such utter surety fail to materialize, do not simply cast aside these predictions and form them anew based on a yet unreached timeline. Keep in your memory the time you tried to put words in God's mouth; wear the egg on your face for a time. For the the heresy of putting your impressions of prophecy, including a rapture unmentioned in the actual text of the prophecy, before the actual words contained within the prophecy will not be forgotten by God before the day of your mortal demise. If you forget your failings, and realize not the heresy of your ways, how then should you be able to repent of it.

Understand, that if you do not get "raptured" on that day, you will be forced to completely re-assess your view of what Christian Faith means, you will be forced to erase all of your impressions of the meaning of Bible Prophecy and must enter into the reading of the text as a clean slate, for your assessment, made with such surety will have been proven wrong. Not slightly wrong. Utterly wrong.

For if you come back again, having been proven wrong about this by God's pre-planned innaction, and begin again the same practice of forcing words into his mouth, and leading more people astray with more of your self-assured prophecies and failing to admit that your assessment is capable of err, God will see it, will see through you, and will see truth about you that you are incapable of seeing in yourself. He will take note, even if you fail to.
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OK 285, i know your point.

i'm not trying to force G-d to do anything, nor am i saying with any certainty that this is the final day. i'm just watching, along with many others.

i had my own experience on RH in 1988. i was waiting then too, and i had a mighty sign right at midnite!!

i told my friend about how i was dissapointed in 2008 as i thought that may be it.

he said maybe G-d gave ya a sign 3 7s ago. you know.. 21?

maybe like the -777 stock mkt on RH last year?

well we'll see this year. seems G-d does things right on time. watch about Christ's 1st time.

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OP, as a sister-in-Christ, I was wondering if you had considered and prayed over this scripture (I just recently "discovered" it!):

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
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OP, as a sister-in-Christ, I was wondering if you had considered and prayed over this scripture (I just recently "discovered" it!):

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

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yes 767! marvelous verses! we're looking for the "falling away" right now. as in a straight line away from a sphere or circle.

a departure.
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OP, as a sister-in-Christ, I was wondering if you had considered and prayed over this scripture (I just recently "discovered" it!):

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

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here's a very good short study on it.

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You hear it everywhere. There will be a great "falling away" in these last days. People will turn away from God and from the Word and the whole world will become apostate. After this great apostasy, then the Antichrist will be unleashed on the world and it's curtains for everyone.

Preachers, prophecy teachers, Pastors and End Times novelists are all trumpeting the same warning: People will abandon God and his truth and will turn to idols and false teaching and all manner of lawlessness and sin.

But is this true? Is this Biblical and where does this doom and gloom doctrine come from? It arises from 2 Thess 2:3,

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come except there come a FALLING AWAY first...and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."

To get the context of this, we must read the first verse in this chapter;

"Now we beseech you breathern by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him..."

So the context of this "falling away first" is two-fold. First, it talks about "the coming of the Lord," and secondly, " and by our gathering together unto him." These are two very seperate and distinct items. For the "coming" of the Lord back to earth is going to happen at the end of the 7 years of Tribulation and after the Battle of Armageddon. When he comes back down to earth to establish his 1000 year Millenial reign.

But the second part of verse one is about "our gathering together unto him..." A very different event altogether, often referred to as the Rapture of the saints.

Both these events provide the context for the next 8 verses which deal with this touchy subject.

The believers in Thessalonica were afraid. Why were they afraid? You can read this in verse 2. But what were they afraid of? They were scared out of their wits because they thought that the "day of Christ" was at hand. That is, they thought that the Tribulation had already begun and that Caesar was the Antichrist.

They thought this because some believers had told them so. In other words, they had received some wrong doctrine. Wrong doctrine can only be corrected by right doctrine. And that is what Paul is now providing in these 8 verses.

He begins by saying, "let no man deceive you." Because it is usually via man that we are deceived. But now he will tell us how not to be deceived. Paul goes on to say that "that day"; what day? "the day of the Lord." That is, the 7 years of Tribulation. This is the time period he is speaking of.

He continues by saying that "that day"... "SHALL NOT COME, except there come a falling away first..."

The Greek for "falling away" is apostasia. From this is transliterated the English word, apostasy. And if you look up the word apostasy in your dictionary, it will say it means "an abandonment of one's religious faith" or "to turn away" from one's religious practice.

But the original Greek word merits further study. The preposition apo means "away." And Greek is a very mathematical and precise language. Here is how that esteemed Biblical scholar, EW Bullinger defines apo in his Companion Bible, App 104;

"Apo denotes motion from the surface of an object, as a line drawn from the circumference (of a circle)...Hence it is used as motion away from a place, marking the distance which seperates the two places..."

I don't want to get into the minutiae of the origin and meaning of the word apostasia here as I don't want to cause the reader to fall asleep. I have a fantastic in-depth PowerPoint presentation on this topic available on my website which is simple and easy to follow ( provided to me with thanks to Keith Jackson of Florida). I highly recommend you read it.

Suffice to say that apostasia has nothing to do with a falling away from religion or a turning away from God and the truth. Rather it is depicted in Greek as a line going away from the outside of a circle and continuing in motion away from it.

In A Greek-English Lexicon by Sir Henry Stewert Jones and Roderick Mc Kenzie, (Oxford University Press, 1940), on apostasia they say;

"The verb may mean to remove spatially. There is little reason then to deny that the noun can mean such a spatial removal or departure. Since the noun is used only one other time in the New Testament of apostasy from Moses, (Acts 21:21), we can hardly conclude that its Biblical meaning is necessarily determined." p.218

And a man named Daniel K. Davey did his Thesis on this word at the Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary in 1982. He concludes;

"It is with full assurance of exegetical study and the complete confidance in the original languages, that the word meaning of apostasia is defined as "departure."

Ladies and gentlemen, if you are in the departure lounge at an airport, then you take off, the plane is a line in motion away from the circumference of the earth.

And that is EXACTLY what this word means. The "day fo the Lord," the Tribulation, CANNOT begin untill there is first a DEPARTURE. And remember the context of this section.? It is the "gathering together" of the saints commonly called the Rapture.

Paul is assuaging their fears. He is telling them not to have their minds upset by spirits or deceiving men. For the day of the Lord cannot happen untill we are departed off this earth, untill we are gathered together.

Then, Paul says, the son of perdition, the man of sin will be revealed. Who is this man? He is the Antichrist. And I will shortly be doing a series of articles entitled "Who is the Antichrist?" on raidersnewsnetwork in this column. (Watch this space).

So if there is no "falling away" in these last days, then what is going to happen? Well, when Peter arose on Pentecost and gave that great speech, he quoted the prophet Joel;

"And it shall come to pass in the last days...I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:and you sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.

And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit." Acts:2:17.18

According to this scripture, in the Last Days, there is not going to be an apostasy. Quite the opposite to what many preachers and teachers are saying, is going to occur. For this prophecy says that God is going to "pour out His Spirit" liberally in these End Times.

Is there any proof for this? Well, yes. Absolutely, methinks. For there is massive revival going on in many of what we call Third World countries.
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Re: We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.
"Rosh Hashanah is also known as Yom Teurah"

Rosh - Head (First of the new year.)

Nothing to do with Yom Teruah. Roah Hashanah - Beginning of the year spring time when the Barley is Aviv (Ripe). Man's tradition changed the Rosh Hashanah to the fall.

Yom Teruah - The Day of the Great Awakening Trumpet Blast. Foretold in the feasts/Moadim that are forever and will never change, yesterday, today or forever. Lev 23, whose feasts? Man's or Creator? The father of all creation never changes his set times.

Now, has anyone seen the sun and moon go black yet or the stars falling from the heavens or the heavens being shaken and the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heavens yet?

If not, the summer is still nigh from the sign of the fig tree putting forth leaves and the Eagles gathered with thee dead carcass of the great deception, but that specific summer before the Yom Teruah of the re-gathering of that Great Trumpet Blast is not yet here. What was specifically foretold in Mat 24 and Rev 6 of which are events that correlate together as well as Dan 12 and many more.

The final 21 years of the "Persian" resistance began in 1991 and will end 21 years afterwards. Significant years of that resistance are foretold in Daniel and Revelation by charting out the numbers given of three sevens, two sevens and a ten. 2010 is significant in the war, as well as 2017. A big push will begin in that resistance within the next one to two years. Seeing the begining and ending of the year going by the true calandar. (The Persian resistance is coded as a 'play' in Daniel knowing who each person including Daniel is acting as.)

Indications are that the summer of the Yom Teruah of the re-gathering may occur any year before 2013. Without the signs being fulfilled that the Master foretold, the 'imminent' return is not yet. The only 'imminent' part will be within 2 days of a specific hour within those two days of the Yom Teruah of the re-gathering but only after the sign of the sun, moon and the heavens, and the Son of Man seen coming by all. Some to look up for their redemption draweth nigh as in Luke 21 or some to go hide in their holes in the ground as in Revelation 6.

Watching. That is what it is all about and to know what to look for by hearing what was already told before just as the Master says in Matthew 24, "See I already told you before." And he sure did in much detail but to understand the feasts/Moadim and the "Play" that he has so greatly put together in the scriptures by actual people living out their lives doing what he told them to do as it was recorded in the Torah.

Signs foretold:

Daniel 12, day, day & 1/2 day said as time, times, and 1/2 time but to know the reference to know the timeline. 2500, 1335 and 1290. 1335 = regathering the day to make it to. 1290 minus 1335 significant year. 45 year difference in 1335 and 1290. Beginning of the timeline + 45, significant year. All to do with the temple mount.

Jeremiah 46 begins another timeline, foretold of the scattering until the fullness of the gentiles. Egypt. 430 years bondage first time. Into all nations 430 X 6 = 2580 years. Six times the bondage but on the seventh all shall go free, the next Exodus. 568 BC = the date of Babylon's invasion into Egypt controlled by Assyria at the time as the northern kingdoms of Israel were taken into bondage just as foretold. The Exodus = 2012. It is all recorded in the scriptures. Plainly foretold to those who understand what is going on and who is being used as a 'Play' to show the whole world the time for redemption and when that time will be up.

Watching. So that specific summer after the summer that is nigh referenced in Matthew 24, that specific summer will be with a great sign of the sun, moon, heavens, and the Son of Man being seen coming. Shall he be the cause of the next Exodus after the 430 x 6 of bondage? Shall he do Exactly as he has said to the 'jot' and 'tittle'? Those of Iniquity think he will change his word. He shall not and will fulfill all he has foretold.

Much more but enough here to cause most to choke from their derision and blindness and high mindedness of thinking they are the only ones who will know and no one can understand. The Father still only knows the day and hour just like he said when speaking plainly by Messiah when he walked the earth. His people will not be caught unaware because they are watching. The blind will be taken by surprise just as a thief in the night comes to steal, kill and destroy. But those who love all of the scriptures, have said nothing was done away with but all has, is and will be fulfilled in the Living Word who is the Being of All Things even to the Light of all Mankind. YHVH is Light. That Light makes up every element that exists. But only few are found in the Light within the Light for eternal life where there is remission of sin.
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Re: We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.
OP, in early October of this year, will you be cleaning the egg off your face, denying the egg on your face, or ignorant of the egg on your face.

I'll say it now with surety,

IF OP does not disappear in a pillar of rapturous light on September 29th of this year, as he states the true christian faith shall, He will be proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, an utter imbecile.

OP, keep in your mind, and commit to your memory the surety with which you speak here today. If, and when these events you predict with such utter surety fail to materialize, do not simply cast aside these predictions and form them anew based on a yet unreached timeline. Keep in your memory the time you tried to put words in God's mouth; wear the egg on your face for a time. For the the heresy of putting your impressions of prophecy, including a rapture unmentioned in the actual text of the prophecy, before the actual words contained within the prophecy will not be forgotten by God before the day of your mortal demise. If you forget your failings, and realize not the heresy of your ways, how then should you be able to repent of it.

Understand, that if you do not get "raptured" on that day, you will be forced to completely re-assess your view of what Christian Faith means, you will be forced to erase all of your impressions of the meaning of Bible Prophecy and must enter into the reading of the text as a clean slate, for your assessment, made with such surety will have been proven wrong. Not slightly wrong. Utterly wrong.

For if you come back again, having been proven wrong about this by God's pre-planned innaction, and begin again the same practice of forcing words into his mouth, and leading more people astray with more of your self-assured prophecies and failing to admit that your assessment is capable of err, God will see it, will see through you, and will see truth about you that you are incapable of seeing in yourself. He will take note, even if you fail to.
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It could be today, or it could be tomorrow. Where Did They Go?...

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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nice post op..
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nice post op..
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thanks!!! i'm still reading the post from 733532
trying to see if they agree or disagree with my premise!

kidding.. i don't think they think much of it.

ha!
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09/10/2009 06:37 PM
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Re: We are told to watch so that He will not come as a thief in the night.
of course I'm looking up!

trumpets is a biggie and may well prove significant

if not this year then in the future!

I have the blessed hope -- however, I will never be dogmatic as to date setting

I kind of see 2029-2036 as daniel's 70th week for a number of reasons

yet I will say come quickly Lord Jesus! I welcome His return as imminent!

pray the Lord of the harvest for more laborers -- the fields are ripe

we have the opportunity for billions more souls to be saved if the Lord tarries!

the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy --

love peace and joy

rb
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"Rosh Hashanah is also known as Yom Teurah"

Rosh - Head (First of the new year.)

Nothing to do with Yom Teruah. Roah Hashanah - Beginning of the year spring time when the Barley is Aviv (Ripe). Man's tradition changed the Rosh Hashanah to the fall.

Yom Teruah - The Day of the Great Awakening Trumpet Blast. Foretold in the feasts/Moadim that are forever and will never change, yesterday, today or forever. Lev 23, whose feasts? Man's or Creator? The father of all creation never changes his set times.

Now, has anyone seen the sun and moon go black yet or the stars falling from the heavens or the heavens being shaken and the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heavens yet?

If not, the summer is still nigh from the sign of the fig tree putting forth leaves and the Eagles gathered with thee dead carcass of the great deception, but that specific summer before the Yom Teruah of the re-gathering of that Great Trumpet Blast is not yet here. What was specifically foretold in Mat 24 and Rev 6 of which are events that correlate together as well as Dan 12 and many more.

The final 21 years of the "Persian" resistance began in 1991 and will end 21 years afterwards. Significant years of that resistance are foretold in Daniel and Revelation by charting out the numbers given of three sevens, two sevens and a ten. 2010 is significant in the war, as well as 2017. A big push will begin in that resistance within the next one to two years. Seeing the begining and ending of the year going by the true calandar. (The Persian resistance is coded as a 'play' in Daniel knowing who each person including Daniel is acting as.)

Indications are that the summer of the Yom Teruah of the re-gathering may occur any year before 2013. Without the signs being fulfilled that the Master foretold, the 'imminent' return is not yet. The only 'imminent' part will be within 2 days of a specific hour within those two days of the Yom Teruah of the re-gathering but only after the sign of the sun, moon and the heavens, and the Son of Man seen coming by all. Some to look up for their redemption draweth nigh as in Luke 21 or some to go hide in their holes in the ground as in Revelation 6.

Watching. That is what it is all about and to know what to look for by hearing what was already told before just as the Master says in Matthew 24, "See I already told you before." And he sure did in much detail but to understand the feasts/Moadim and the "Play" that he has so greatly put together in the scriptures by actual people living out their lives doing what he told them to do as it was recorded in the Torah.

Signs foretold:

Daniel 12, day, day & 1/2 day said as time, times, and 1/2 time but to know the reference to know the timeline. 2500, 1335 and 1290. 1335 = regathering the day to make it to. 1290 minus 1335 significant year. 45 year difference in 1335 and 1290. Beginning of the timeline + 45, significant year. All to do with the temple mount.

Jeremiah 46 begins another timeline, foretold of the scattering until the fullness of the gentiles. Egypt. 430 years bondage first time. Into all nations 430 X 6 = 2580 years. Six times the bondage but on the seventh all shall go free, the next Exodus. 568 BC = the date of Babylon's invasion into Egypt controlled by Assyria at the time as the northern kingdoms of Israel were taken into bondage just as foretold. The Exodus = 2012. It is all recorded in the scriptures. Plainly foretold to those who understand what is going on and who is being used as a 'Play' to show the whole world the time for redemption and when that time will be up.

Watching. So that specific summer after the summer that is nigh referenced in Matthew 24, that specific summer will be with a great sign of the sun, moon, heavens, and the Son of Man being seen coming. Shall he be the cause of the next Exodus after the 430 x 6 of bondage? Shall he do Exactly as he has said to the 'jot' and 'tittle'? Those of Iniquity think he will change his word. He shall not and will fulfill all he has foretold.

Much more but enough here to cause most to choke from their derision and blindness and high mindedness of thinking they are the only ones who will know and no one can understand. The Father still only knows the day and hour just like he said when speaking plainly by Messiah when he walked the earth. His people will not be caught unaware because they are watching. The blind will be taken by surprise just as a thief in the night comes to steal, kill and destroy. But those who love all of the scriptures, have said nothing was done away with but all has, is and will be fulfilled in the Living Word who is the Being of All Things even to the Light of all Mankind. YHVH is Light. That Light makes up every element that exists. But only few are found in the Light within the Light for eternal life where there is remission of sin.
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A true direction for all to consider... bump

God's Holy Feasts...the blueprint of the ages.
Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos
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God's Holy Feasts...the blueprint of the ages.

absolutely.

a shadow of things to come.

an important one is right around the corner.

the 1st of the fall feasts.
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"Teruah means “an awakening blast”. A theme associated with Rosh Hashanah is the theme “to awake”. Teruah is also translated as “shout”."


Here is the trumpet blast:
[link to alphaomeganewjerusalem.com]
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God's Holy Feasts...the blueprint of the ages.

absolutely.

a shadow of things to come.

an important one is right around the corner.

the 1st of the fall feasts.
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Yes. Our Fellowship is observing the month of Teshuvah right now...time to review you life and return to your Creator.

Don't forget Sukkot, coming up in October.
Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos
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thanks so much for keeping this alive you guys..

i just found this. amazing.

brought tears to my eyes.

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[youtubes] [link to www.youtube.com]
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hebrew meaning of hour = brief time, moment.

[link to www.studylight.org]

and the root of the word....to look at or to, regard, gaze at or about

[link to www.studylight.org]

Please get with the divine plan OP.

Lotus
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Lotus, some prophet you are. You made the same mistake as the OP when talking about the HOUR. DUH They weren't talking about the HEBREW HOUR, they were talking about the GREEK HOUR which is:

1.a certain definite time or season fixed by natural law and returning with the revolving year
a.of the seasons of the year, spring, summer, autumn, winter
2.the daytime (bounded by the rising and setting of the sun), a day
3.a twelfth part of the day-time, an hour, (the twelve hours of the day are reckoned from the rising to the setting of the sun)
4.any definite time, point of time, moment

I wish YOU would get with the divine program. DUH
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