we still have today to preach the gospel and make disciples!
it's an exciting time to still be here!
we have no idea how long the Day of the Lord is -- some interpret it as the 7th day ie the millenium
also our souls are present with the Lord when we pass on the bodily ressurection is a separate event -- the 5th seal shows the martyrs receiving their robes indicating they rise first physically
the 6th seal shows Christians in heaven wearing robes looks like a harpazo event
love rb
Anonymous Coward User ID: 721700 9/14/2009 3:44 PM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
And then there is this........
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For 'last day'
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the LAST DAY.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.
Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY. ( The Me, is JESUS )
Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.
Joh 7:37 In the LAST DAY, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the LAST DAY.
Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the LAST DAY.
Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the LAST DAYs, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
2ti 3:1 This know also, that in the LAST DAYs perilous times shall come.
Heb 1:2 Hath in these LAST DAYs spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Jas 5:3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the LAST DAYs.
2pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the LAST DAYs scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Dee User ID: 770820 9/14/2009 8:46 PM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
I still believe The rapture will occur before the Antichrist and the pole shift.
Most everything else, the timing and the signs necessary to see fulfilled prophesy is pretty much set.
The stage seems set that is for sure.
Seems like we have a, dressed, rehearsed, props in place kinda readiness..techno being where and what it is. The greatest deceptions ever are possible right now.
May God in his infinite mercy bring the lost in before it is too late.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 770107 9/14/2009 8:49 PM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
I still believe The rapture will occur before the Antichrist and the pole shift.
Most everything else, the timing and the signs necessary to see fulfilled prophesy is pretty much set.
The stage seems set that is for sure.
Seems like we have a, dressed, rehearsed, props in place kinda readiness..techno being where and what it is. The greatest deceptions ever are possible right now.
May God in his infinite mercy bring the lost in before it is too late.
Quoting: Dee 770820
Dee, it will occur before the completion of the Pole Shift, but in regards to the Antichrist, read 2 Thess. 2:1-4. It really opened my eyes.
Keep in mind "revealed" means spiritually-revealed (revelation of the Holy Spirit). Because the whole rest of the world will wonder after the beast.
Lotus Feet The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law User ID: 602386 9/14/2009 10:15 PM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 760847
That happened in November 2003 for the Harmonic Concordance. Spiritual people were celebrating all over the world when the sign of the Son of Man was created by the planets during the Lunar eclipse.
It was a global happening and the elect were all involved.
Lotus "Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
Just before God's wrath....the trumpet and bowl judgments of the 7th Seal. See Rev. 6:12----7:17. A great multitude appears in heavens from all nations which no one can number. They are not spirits. They can wear robes and have branches in their hands.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
That happened in November 2003 for the Harmonic Concordance. Spiritual people were celebrating all over the world when the sign of the Son of Man was created by the planets during the Lunar eclipse.
It was a global happening and the elect were all involved.
Lotus
Quoting: Lotus Feet
You're a psychopath. Seriously. John 14:6
Jesus saith... I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Support our persecuted brothers and sisters in Christ - [link to www.releaseinternational.org]
------- 2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Defending The Faith - [link to www.e-sword.net] / [link to www.blueletterbible.org]
------- Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
And then there is this........
Results: 12
For 'last day'
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the LAST DAY.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.
Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY. ( The Me, is JESUS )
Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.
Joh 7:37 In the LAST DAY, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the LAST DAY.
Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the LAST DAY.
Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the LAST DAYs, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
2ti 3:1 This know also, that in the LAST DAYs perilous times shall come.
Heb 1:2 Hath in these LAST DAYs spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Jas 5:3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the LAST DAYs.
2pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the LAST DAYs scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435072
Did you forget?
SATURDAY, 12 SEPTEMBER 2009
NO ONE TOLD YOU ABOUT GOD'S MESSENGER - Isaiah 41 & 42
The Helper of Israel
So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. I have stirred up one from the north, and he comes— one from the rising sun who calls on my name. He treads on rulers as if they were mortar, as if he were a potter treading the clay.
Who told of this from the beginning, so we could know, or beforehand, so we could say, 'He was right'? No one told of this, (to you) no one foretold it, (before they arrived) no one heard any words from you. I was the first to tell Zion, 'Look, here they are!' I gave to Jerusalem a messenger of good tidings.[1]
1 In the last days
the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established.
Who is the Temple? It is a PERSON
as chief among the mountains;
it will be raised above the hills,
and peoples will stream to it.
2 Many nations will come and say,
"Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of the God of Jacob.
He will teach us his ways,
so that we may walk in his paths."
The law will go out from Zion,
the word of the LORD from (NEW) Jerusalem.
3 He will judge between many peoples
and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will not take up sword against nation,
nor will they train for war anymore.
4 Every man will sit under his own vine
and under his own fig tree,
and no one will make them afraid,
for the LORD Almighty has spoken.
5 All the nations may walk
in the name of their gods;
we will walk in the name of the LORD
our God for ever and ever.
The LORD's Plan
6 "In that day," declares the LORD,
"I will gather the lame;
I will assemble the exiles
and those I have brought to grief.
7 I will make the lame a remnant,
those driven away a strong nation.
The LORD will rule over them in Mount Zion
from that day and forever.
8 As for you, O watchtower of the flock, (The Messenger)
O stronghold of the Daughter of Zion,
the former dominion will be restored to you;
kingship will come to the Daughter of Jerusalem."
9 Why do you now cry aloud—
have you no king?
Has your counselor perished,
that pain seizes you like that of a woman in labor?
10 Writhe in agony, O Daughter of Zion,
like a woman in labor,
for now you must leave the city
to camp in the open field.
You will go to Babylon; (USA 2008)
there you will be rescued.
There the LORD will redeem you
out of the hand of your enemies.
11 But now many nations
are gathered against you.
They say, "Let her be defiled,
let our eyes gloat over Zion!"
12 But they do not know
the thoughts of the LORD;
they do not understand his plan,
he who gathers them like sheaves to the threshing floor.
13 "Rise and thresh, O Daughter of Zion,
for I will give you horns of iron;
I will give you hoofs of bronze
and you will break to pieces many nations."
You will devote their ill-gotten gains to the LORD,
their wealth to the Lord of all the earth.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
Lotus
Last Edited by Lotus Feet on 9/14/2009 at 10:35 PM "Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
Christians have a lot to learn. Can you stand before the Son of Man? The prophet of God? The Messenger that Jesus promised our heavenly Father would send in the last days to shorten this time for the sake of the elect?
Jesus said 'I tell you truly, the Book of Nature is a HOLY SCROLL, and if you would have the Sons of Men save themselves and find everlasting life, teach them how once again to read from the living pages of the Earthly Mother. For in everything that is life is the law written. It is written in the grass, in the trees, in the rivers, in the mountains, birds of the sky and fishes of the sea; and most of all in the Son of Man.
Only when he returns to the bosom of the Earthly Mother will he find everlasting life and the Stream of Life which leads to his Heavenly Father; only thus may the dark vision of the future not come to pass". The Essene Gospel of Peace, Book 4, Teachings of the Elect. It is clear in this passage that again, Jesus was not talking about himself because he already was one with the Father.
Last Edited by Lotus Feet on 9/14/2009 at 10:40 PM "Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
LOTUS FEET, I wish you would piss off and stop spamming this thread with your new age bullsh*t.
Your a friggin LIAR.
Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 9/16/2009 at 3:42 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 766086 9/15/2009 2:59 AM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
John 14:6
Jesus saith... I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Support our persecuted brothers and sisters in Christ - [link to www.releaseinternational.org]
------- 2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Defending The Faith - [link to www.e-sword.net] / [link to www.blueletterbible.org]
------- Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
What's the difference what "day" a person comes to acknowledge God? Yesterday, this afternoon, or judgment day? Where in scripture does it say there's a cutoff time or deadline, after which confessing Christ as Lord is no longer an act of salvation? Also, are you suggesting that the "lost" are not going to willingly recognize God as Lord? Is the Spirit going to *force* them to mouth allegiance and yet *deny* them the promised reward for doing so? Makes no sense, considering He tells us plainly how offensive it is when people make declarations that their heart really is not into - even we humans find it objectionable. If He can force people into confessing Christ, why doesn't he just do that now before it's supposedly "too late"?
It's touching that you don't want me to end up in hell, but there are scores of christians who hide in their hearts the resentment of the Prodigal's brother, bitter at the idea that his "wicked" sibling is warmly welcomed home by the Father. "I was obedient all this time! Why does he get any attention?"
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 766086
766086,
I'm calling your bluff. What about this....
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
As in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all live.
(Lemme guess, I misinterpreted this one, too, right?)
Well lets put it this way... where is the quote?
Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 9/16/2009 at 3:43 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
766086, I'm calling your bluff. What about this....
Quoting: 9teen.47™
What "bluff" is that, 9er? Rapture-worship is unscriptural, and I consider it to be more manufactured, Church-approved crap they feed us to keep us blind and busy.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 766086 9/15/2009 3:14 AM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
LOTUS FEET, I wish you would piss off and stop spamming this thread with your new age bullsh*t.
Your a friggin LIAR.
Your going to go to hell for judging and condeming people people 9teen.You better watch out it is coming for you!
Quoting: danhow
It's called "telling it like it is". Jesus did it all the time. John 14:6
Jesus saith... I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Support our persecuted brothers and sisters in Christ - [link to www.releaseinternational.org]
------- 2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Defending The Faith - [link to www.e-sword.net] / [link to www.blueletterbible.org]
------- Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
IIRC, the only people Jesus had angry words for was the Pharisees: the holier-than-thou religious hypocrites who consider themselves better than everyone else.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 766086 9/15/2009 3:25 AM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
It's called "telling it like it is". Jesus did it all the time.
Lets see some examples where Jesus curses New Age.
Quoting: danhow
You're missing the point. My point was that a lie was said, then revealed as such. John 14:6
Jesus saith... I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Support our persecuted brothers and sisters in Christ - [link to www.releaseinternational.org]
------- 2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Defending The Faith - [link to www.e-sword.net] / [link to www.blueletterbible.org]
------- Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
IIRC, the only people Jesus had angry words for was the Pharisees: the holier-than-thou religious hypocrites who consider themselves better than everyone else.
IIRC, the only people Jesus had angry words for was the Pharisees: the holier-than-thou religious hypocrites who consider themselves better than everyone else.
hmmmmm kind of sounds like most Christians today.
Quoting: danhow
SHH! They'll hear you! And then you'll get hit wit' a drive-by. (Scripture quotes instead of bullets, mind you, but it's otherwise pretty much the same).
IIRC, the only people Jesus had angry words for was the Pharisees: the holier-than-thou religious hypocrites who consider themselves better than everyone else.
hmmmmm kind of sounds like most Christians today.
SHH! They'll hear you! And then you'll get hit wit' a drive-by. (Scripture quotes instead of bullets, mind you, but it's otherwise pretty much the same).
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 766086
LOL! Nows thats the truth!lol
Anonymous Coward User ID: 771442 9/15/2009 3:40 AM
Re: WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.
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