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| Full Circle
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9/14/2009 3:28 PM
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Understanding God is akin to an amoeba understanding physics if you really think about it.
Yet everyday, we try to bring him down to our level and explain what he is doing and why.
Pretty damn stupid in my opinion.
Well...If we were "created in his image," it's not THAT farfetched. Quoting: MarkusMaximus
That's MAN'S interpretation and attempt to understand. And MAN'S ego that puts himself above all things as "created in his image". And THAT, is ridiculous!
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| MarkusMaximus
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9/14/2009 3:30 PM
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Understanding God is akin to an amoeba understanding physics if you really think about it.
Yet everyday, we try to bring him down to our level and explain what he is doing and why.
Pretty damn stupid in my opinion.
Well...If we were "created in his image," it's not THAT farfetched.
That's MAN'S interpretation and attempt to understand. And MAN'S ego that puts himself above all things as "created in his image". And THAT, is ridiculous! Quoting: Full Circle
Agreed, however if we were "created," we were embued with the ability to ask WHY.
So...WHY kill everyone? WHY create a situation which would lead to the necessity to kill everyone? God would know that...And if he/she gave me the ability to ask why, I shall exercise it.
;-) How you doin, FC?
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| Anonymous Coward
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9/14/2009 3:33 PM | | Re: God creates man. Kills all of them (Flood), except a family. Now, Armageddon coming, to kill everyone AGAIN. Anyone else detecting a pattern here? | Quote |
SECRETS OF ENOCH
Chapter 31
6 -- But I cursed ignorance, but what I had blessed previously, those I did not curse, I cursed not man, nor the earth, nor other creatures, but man’s evil fruit, and his works.
The reason Armageddon is coming is because of man's evil fruit.
NICE POST!!! 5 stars
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| Full Circle
User ID: 763948
9/14/2009 3:34 PM
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So...WHY kill everyone. WHY create a situation which would lead to the necessity to kill everyone. God would know that...And if he/she gave me the ability to ask why, I shall exercise it.
;-) How you doin, FC? Quoting: MarkusMaximus
All is well MM! How you and Poe?
lol...Back to the topic....."He" doesn't kill everyone. All the ancient myths show that there are survivors of these cataclysms. I have my own opinions on it, as to why it happens. And I exercise my right to ask as well. That's the only way to get anywhere.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| grrttsgar 
User ID: 770788
9/14/2009 3:37 PM
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The first flood was in fact caused by man.
You guys went all out in processing sheded debris of the earth returning the water to the atmosphere at an alarming rate.
WTF did you think would happen.
Second flood was also of mans doing.
The earth had grown over ancient centerys of light and water.
Man severed the light from the earth.
When the light left all at once all growth that was turned to ash and rock and the water that was once tree root and grass is now upon the land and weighted to level.
So STOP blaming some one else for your own deeds.
The Morning Star
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| Anonymous Coward
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9/14/2009 3:38 PM | | Re: God creates man. Kills all of them (Flood), except a family. Now, Armageddon coming, to kill everyone AGAIN. Anyone else detecting a pattern here? | Quote |
Yep, it repeats.
It has nothing to do with any god.
"When the Earth Nearly Died
Compelling Evidence of A Catastrophic World Change 9,500 BC
(c) 1995 by By D S Allan and J B Delair. 386pp.
Republished in 1997 as
"Cataclysm : Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B. C."
Introduction
The tradition of a Golden Age existing in the distant past, and of a fall from grace into barbarism due to catastrophes of apocalyptic proportions, is enshrined in the memories and ancient writings of many peoples. These notions are, however, conventionally regarded as pure invention. The existence of a surprising amount of factual evidence which suggests that these accounts are actually based on a series of events really experienced by humankind, is generally either ignored or treated with great caution by established scholarship, largely because attempts to explain how this Golden Age came to an end have hitherto been unconvincing or uncomfortably threatening to orthodox interpretations of history.
The real history of humanity is, however, far more dramatic and interesting than the conventional version implies. When the Earth Nearly Died offers an exciting and challenging new interpretation of the information currently available to us.
When the Earth Nearly Died carefully documents the fascinating story - which has never been told before in such detail - of how this Golden Age of peaceful conditions and equable climates ended traumatically in a tremendous catastrophe about 11,500 years ago. This was part of a cataclysm which disturbed the whole solar system, destroyed at least one sizable planet and its satellite, and also severely devastated Mars and Earth.
Among the fundamental geophysical effects experienced by Earth were a massive fracturing of the crust, a realignment of Earth's axis, elevation of new mountains, and widespread rearrangement of land and sea. These changes were accompanied by an appalling global conflagration, a gigantic flood, and what has been described as 'collapsed sky' conditions. A bombardment by debris from the disintegrated satellite of the destroyed planet added to the worldwide chaos.
Much of Earth's animal and plant life was annihilated by these frightful events. Remains were often buried hundreds of feet below and within vast new deposits which smothered huge areas, both on land and under the sea. Elsewhere they lay piled in caves, choked rock fissures, or were massed into veritable hills. Some havens and refuges did exist, offering shelter to various faunal and floral species from flood or fire - then to have to endure the appalling conditions which followed. These included intense cold, occasioned by chronic atmospheric pollution which severely restricted the solar radiation reaching the Earth, loss of vital resources such as shelter, tools and sources of warmth and nourishment. The extent of the damage was so great that the immediate survivors found themselves literally catapulted into what was, in effect, a new world." more......: [link to www.knowledge.co.uk] |
| HardTruth
User ID: 769981
9/14/2009 3:50 PM
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Worshippers of Saturn, aka, EL!!
The Phoenicians regarded El-Saturn as their chief deity; Eusebius informs us that El, a name used also in the Bible as a name for God, was the name of Saturn. (34)
Praeparatio Evangelica IV.xvi: “Kronos [El] was deified in the star Saturn.” This statement is quoted by Eusebius from Philo’s redaction of the lost Phoenician History of Sanchuniathon. Some classical writers, among them Tacitus (Histories V.4) alleged that the Jews were worshippers of Saturn; cf. Augustine’s refutation in Contra Faustum Manichaeum XX. 13. (34)
(34) The Worship of Saturn (Tammuz), by Immanuel Velikovsky
Saturn and the Deluge
by Immanuel Velikovsky
Following the rabbinical sources which declare that the Deluge was caused by two comets ejected by the planet Khima, and our interpretation of the planet Khima as Saturn, we begin to understand the astrological texts, such as certain passages in the Tetrabiblos of Ptolemy, which attribute to the planet Saturn floods and all catastrophes caused by high water. (1)
The planet’s presence in Aquarius especially brought expectations of heavy rains and flooding (2) as is attested, among others, by the first-century Roman author Lucan. (3) Many of the ancient astrologers were in agreement on this point. (4)
In a work entitled Speculum astrologiae, Junctinus ascribes inundations to the action of Saturn’s comets. (5) Cuneiform texts contain prophecies of a deluge taking place when a comet assumes a direction with its head towards the Earth. (6)
Philosophers of antiquity who were not astrologers, also expressed their belief that Saturn is in some way related to moisture—among them the pre-Socratics Philolaus and Philodemus, (7) and, somewhat later, Plato. (8) The elder Pliny wrote in his Natural History that it is well known that heavy rains follow transitions of Saturn. (9)
Servius asserted that “Saturn is a god of rains . . . . When in the sign of Capricorn, he causes very heavy rains, especially in Italy' (10) and again: “Saturn is the god of all that is humid and cold.' (11) Proclus recorded the beliefs of the Pythagoreans: “Again, in the heavens, Ares is fire, Jupiter air, Kronos water." (12) Nonnos referred to “ancient Kronos, heavy-kneed, pouring rain." (13)
Hippolytus wrote of the beliefs of a member of the Peratae sect: “But water, he says, is destruction; nor did the world, he says, perish by any other thing quicker than by water. Water, however . . . they assert (it to be) Cronus." (14) We recognize that the astrological connection between Saturn and catastrophes created by high water has a very ancient origin.
In the Chaldean story of the Deluge, as told by Berossos, Kronos (Saturn) disclosed to the king Xisuthros that a universal flood would begin on the 15th of the month Dasios. Abydenos says: “Kronos announced to Sisithros that a flood would pour from above." (15)
References
Tetrabiblos II. 8. 84. Similar statements may be found in Hephaestion I. 20.
A. Bouche-Leclercq, L’astrologie grecque (Paris, 1899), p. 96 and n. 1; cf. J. Geffcken, “Eine gnostische Vision,” Sitzungsberichte der Preussischen Akademie der Wissenschaften (1899), p. 699.
Lucan, Pharsalia, transl. by R. Graves (London, 1956), Bk. I, 11. 640ff: “It is not as though this were the Watercarrier’s month, and the cold and malicious planet Saturn had lighted his dusky fires aloft, thereby raising a truly Deucalionian Flood to overwhelm these lands.”
Catalogus Codicum Astrologorum Graecorum X, 249, 2ff.
Junctinus, Speculum astrologiae p. 317a. Cf. F. Boll, Sternglaube und Sterndeutung, 4th ed. by W. Gundel (Leipzig, 1931), p. 114.
“Die Keilschriften prophezien bereits, dass eine Hochflut eintritt, wenn der Komet diese Richtung [mit dem Kopfe nach der Erde] einnimmt. F. Boll, op. cit., p. 114; Cf. Jastrow, Die Religion Babyloniens und Assyriens (Giessen, 19??), Vol. II, p. 696, n.1.
Cf. Klibansky et al., Saturn and Melancholy, p. 138, n. 39.
Cratylus 402b.
Pliny, Natural History II. 106: “Igitur (sidera) in suo quaeque motu naturam suam exercent, quod manifestum Saturni maxime transitu imbribus faciunt.”
Servius, Commentarii in Virgili Georgicas I. 336: “Saturnus deus pluviarium est, unde etiam senex fingitur . . . Hic autem in Capricorno facit gravissimas pluvias, praecipue in Italia.”
Ibid., I. 12: “Quod Saturnus humoris totius et frigoris deus sit.” Cf. Pauly’s Realencyclopaedie XI. 1987-1988, where Kronos is described as representing rivers and water. The ninth-century Arab astrologer Abu Ma’sar wrote: “[Saturn] presides over works of moisture . . . lakes and rivers.” (Introduction to Astrology, Bk. IV, quoted in Klibansky et al., Saturn and Melancholy, p. 130.
Proclus Diadochus, In Timaeo 32b. [In his commentary to Euclid’s Geometry (I. 402. 21), Proclus ascribes a similar conception to the pre-Socratic philosopher Philolaos.]
Nonnos, Dionysiaca VI, 175-178.
Hippolytus, Refutatio Omnium Haeresium, Book V, chapter 11 in The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. V. Hippolytus lived between the years 170 and 236.
Cyril, Contra Julianum I. 5. Cf. Syncellus, Chronicon 28 and Eusebius, Praeparatio Evangelica IX. 12. Cf. also the account of Alexander Polyhistor in Cyril, Contra Julianum, loc. cit. [ The traditions of the Hindus assign the Deluge to the end of the Satya yuga and to the reign of Satyavrata, who is acknowldged to be Saturn (E. Moor, The Hindu Pantheon [1864], p. 108). Cf. Sir W. Jones, “On the Gods of Greece, Italy and India,” Asiatick Researches Vol. I (1799), p. 234: “The Satya, or (if we may call it) the Saturnian, age was, in truth, the age of the general flood. . . .” Brahma (i.e., the planet Saturn—see below, section “The Worship of Saturn,” n. 5), is said to have warned Manu of the Deluge soon to engulf the world (The Mahabharata, XXXX); and when the waters of the deluge covered the earth, Brahma is described as floating over the expanse of the ocean (Agneya Purana, chapter IV; cf. S. Shastri, The Flood Legend in Sanscrit Literature [Delhi, 1950], p. 51). An ancient woodcut published by Athanasius Kircher (China Illustrata [Amsterdam, 1667], p. 158) portrays Brahma (identifiable by his four faces, or chatra mukha) as seated on a rayed disk, apparently Saturn, that hovers over the waters of the Deluge. Cf. F. Maurice, Indian Antiquities (London, 1800), Vol. II, opp. p. 352. The woodcut illustrates the third avatar of Vishnu and, more specifically, may be inspired by the words of the Padma Purana: “then the lord . . . floated over the vast ocean, void of the sun and the moon. . . .” (Shastri, The Flood Legend, p. 41; compare also Psalm 29: “the Lord sitteth upon the flood” ).].
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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| Anonymous Coward
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9/14/2009 3:50 PM | | Re: God creates man. Kills all of them (Flood), except a family. Now, Armageddon coming, to kill everyone AGAIN. Anyone else detecting a pattern here? | Quote |
Garbage of the galaxy. |
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