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Message Subject Delusional people who don't think hell is an eternal place of punishment.
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 Quoting: Goddrunk


Have you been there Goddrunk?

I have a few times and the last Pope was correct heaven and hell are within.

I prefer the Kingdom of God these days.

Hell

Sheol is the Hebrew language word denoting the "abode of the dead"; the "underworld", "the common grave of mankind" or "pit". It is also transliterated Sheh-ole, in Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries and Strong's Concordances. I did do some research on this time ago and it showed the root word also came from ‘dung heap’ which is where some bodies were thrown.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

a. Deuteronomy 32:22 Hebrew to Sheol

The word has been derived from a number of roots. The two main probable origins seem to be those from the Assyrian root sha'al ("to consult an oracle") and shilu ("chamber"). The latter derivation seems somewhat more in accordance with the synonym of pit.

According to Eth. Enoch 22 (1-14), Sheol was divided into four sections, intended respectively for the martyrs, the righteous who were not martyrs, sinners who had lived prosperously, and sinners who had been to some degree punished. The situation in these sections varied from extreme bliss in the first case to loss of all hope of the resurrection in the fourth. The souls in the third division were to be 'slain' in the day of judgment, but the meaning of this is unclear. Nor is it all clear that the fourfold division was commonly held. The twofold division into the abode of the blessed and the abode of those suffering punishment seems to be more generally held. At the resurrection, which preceded the judgment, it was believed, at least by those under the influence of Pharisaism, that the righteous shades would arise from Sheol, and, after receiving new bodies, ascend to heaven.

[link to www.pantheon.org]

Why do people seek out an oracle when they are in the pit? To give them a lantern of the light of hope so that they can see their way out of the earthly reality that they find themselves in. In my own case I fell upon a book told me that I could heal my life and that was the light of hope that was required. After I took the step to seek within and made a conscious decision to heal the Jesus Christ and his mother led me to all of the right places and people for divine purpose.

Now the bible talks about the dead rising out of their graves and this pertains to those that are spiritually dead e.g. they have not woken up or are awakened. Most orthodox Christians fit into this category because they have not taught their souls to fly out of material reality e.g. they are still attached to a book and materialism.

On 28th July 1999 Pope John Paul II stated that hell is not a place, but rather, a state of being. He said that it is the result of having separated yourself from God, who is the source of all life and joy.

HEAVEN, HELL AND PURGATORY
Pope John Paul II


In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him.

If we look at the ancient pictographs of the Hebrew language the word for 'burn' is a picture of a wall representing the outside; it consisted of a picture of a man and wall. Combined they mean outside man, heat of anger, parched place, strongs 2787

Burning = fierce heat, strongs 2750

Fierce, wrath, fury, displeasure, strongs 2740

I propose to you that when man is angry, wrathful and in fury, humans create a wall between themselves and God, a wall between themselves and the heaven within. Giving the children to burn for Molech was giving the children to religion, because religion creates a wall of separation, religious people are unbelievers because they are prepared to kill for their religion and to maintain the separation.

If we then look at grave what do we find.

Sink = co: Pit.The pictograph is a picture of teeth representing sharpness, the next symbol is the wall. Combined they mean 'sharp walls' A Pit dug into the ground for the purpose of trapping someone or something. To go down and sink as going into a pit. To bring down low strongs 7817 Like trapping an animal.......

Pit = A hole in the ground such as a grave, corruption, pit, destruction. Strongs 7845

= Disease strongs 7822

Grave = The act and place of burying the dead comes from the root of gathering one of the forefathers in a cavity. A cavity in a wall...

Destroy = A destruction by being cut of, made short by cutting. strongs 6986 and 6987.

Kill= A cutting off by killing, made short by cutting... strongs

Where do we dig pits? In the earth on planet earth....

Islam/Christianity is digging its own pits with its fury, anger and wrath, it is burning and tormenting their own souls here and now. Anyone who is angry cuts themself off from heaven and from the Spirit of God. Anger disempowers the soul and vexes the Spirit of God. For the soul requires an inner sanctum of peace to reach its fullest potential.

The pit is a state of being and people dig their own pits with their own fury, they lay their trap for the wounded animal/child within, the light of hope goes out and they become spiritually dead in their graves, they are unbelievers in all that is good.

Where does the word religion come from? The root of the word is the Latin verb ligo, comes religo, to tie or bind, from religo, comes the substantive religo, the addition of n makes the English substantive religion. Jesus said that the blind men of religion lead you into the pit and put heavy loads upon your shoulders, loads that are too heavy to carry. Religion cuts people off, separates, divides, binds you to the earthly realm and keeps in you in the never ending cycles.

Heaven is also a state of being...but it is the path of love and of no return to the old way of being. To awaken from slumber and the death of the grave. We now know that anger is the biggest predictor of heart diseased and many religious people have diseased hearts, they have created a wall of separation that stops them experiencing heaven on earth. The fires of desire is the cause of the greatest pain and suffering as we witness now on planet earth.

The most rigid believers are actually the unbelievers....

People who are lost in the illusion of their own pit of self created hell on earth. However, out of darkness the light can come if one has the intelligence to seek within and heal any anger and darkness that resides. On the rite of passage it is called ‘Transmutation of the Cosmic Fire,’ the burning of the last dross before transmigration of your soul, e.g. your soul migrating from one state of being to another and the dying of the old self. However, sadly, like most of these ancient mystery teachings of the initiations that we experience, the orthodox fathers took the line of misery and negativity instead of showing people its use as a purification rite of passage. e.g. finding the silver cloud in every dark cloud.

To truly know God there must be balance in one's life, and anger, fury and wrath can take one out of balance. Physical reality is the barometer of balance -v- imbalance, the earthly realm and our physical being shows us all that we are required to heal. Every word we speak, every thought we have, every deed we do, shows us who we are and whether we are coming from the light or darkness, whether we are being good or less good....


Dross n 1: worthless material that should be removed; "there were impurities in the water" [syn: impurity]

2: the scum formed by oxidation at the surface of molten metals
[syn: slag, scoria]

dross - Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary :

Dross the impurities of silver separated from the one in the process of melting (Prov. 25:4; 26:23; Ps. 119:119). It is also used to denote the base metal itself, probably before it is smelted, in Isa. 1:22, 25.

Proverb 25 2-5

It is the glory of God to conceal the matter; to search out a matter is the glory of Kings. As the heavens are high and the earth is deep, so the hearts of Kings are unsearchable. Remove the dross from the silver, and out comes material for the silversmith; remove the wicked from the Kings presence and his throne will be established through righteousness’

Proverb 26 23-28

Like a coating of glaze over earthenware are fervent lips with an evil heart. A malicious man disguises himself with his lips, but his heart harbours deceit. Through his speech is charming, do not believe him, for seven abominations fill his heart. His malice may be concealed by deception but his wickedness will be exposed in the assembly. If a man digs a pit he will fall into it; if a man rolls a stone, it will roll back to him. A lying tongue hates those hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.

Ps 119:119

All the wicked of the earth you discard like dross.

Isaiah

‘Your silver has become dross, your choice wine is diluted with water’. ‘I will turn my hand against you, I will thoroughly purge away your dross and remove all of your impurities’ 1:22-25

Both will burn together, with no-one to quench the fire”, 1:35


5. Ezekiel 22:18
"Son of man, the house of Israel has become dross to me; all of them are the copper, tin, iron and lead left inside a furnace. They are but the dross of silver.
Ezekiel 22:17-19 (in Context) Ezekiel 22 (Whole Chapter)

6. Ezekiel 22:19
Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: 'Because you have all become dross, I will gather you into Jerusalem.
Ezekiel 22:18-20 (in Context) Ezekiel 22 (Whole Chapter)


Now ask yourself OP why the USA is going through the great purging of the dross? Why it is burning in its own creation. Why it is being crucified?

How long do you and your country wish to be in the pit OP?

Lotus
 
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