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Is racism a valid philosophy?
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CrazyNemo
User ID: 772577
 United States
9/16/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
If by race you mean culture, then European and American culture including fairness, and modern inventions, looks a lot better than scrapping the brush for food in Africa, or facing huge poverty in the caste system of India.
Calling European Culture superior, when it does not exclude anyone from partaking of its advantages seems all right. In that way is it fair to say modern culture is superior or valid? Objectively try other cultures, then determine that for yourself.
If by race you mean the traits of human beings, skin color, eye color, and shape of the bones. Then the answer is no, racism in a sense of exclusion is not valid. Knowing right from wrong and treating one another equally and fairly is the ticket here.
In a cultural sense, European and American values of fairness makes it clear how people should behave. Looking at Africa as cultures operate, the record does not look so fair, considering the violence operating there during the past decades. Quoting: SpaceCommand
Most of problems on the continent of Africa stem from european colonism and big business using the tribes against each other to this day. If the borders that were drawn for the continent were removed and allowed to be what the people want and big business pulled out most on the continent would be pretty peaceful.
Europeans are easily among the most barbaric in history period. Sure most of the big powers that exist stopped fighting that doesn't excuse the poor countries that still have their conflict. Certainly can't blame people of the African Continent for the massive military complex which allows more humans to die than at any other period of human history.
There are no real honorable values of western culture currently just excuses to do what is necessary to survive while the bulk of the world suffers and struggles.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300884
 Sweden
9/16/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
That's OK. Just don't start thinking white people are good at anything, that would be racist! lol
"White" people are good at swimming and endurance running. Quoting: The Guy
ALERT! You are in severe danger of becoming a racist! Cease this line of thinking immediately, or suffer the consequences! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 751327
United States
9/16/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
a human must be measured by his/her soul, and not by his/her physical potential. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772254
United States
9/16/2009 2:23 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Anyone who thinks black people run faster than white people is a fool.
I must be a fool then.
I guess the dominance of black athletes in certain sports fooled me into believing black athletes have an upper hand in those sports.
It never occurred to me white people really run faster than blacks, they just don't do it on camera.
Thanks for setting me straight, knowledgeable internet guy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884
Can't really look at any controlled pro sports. HS runners fare well. There are plenty of white hs 4 min mile runners. The first hs runner to break the 4 min mile was WHITE. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 766296
 Finland
9/16/2009 2:24 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
If by race you mean culture, then European and American culture including fairness, and modern inventions, looks a lot better than scrapping the brush for food in Africa, or facing huge poverty in the caste system of India.
Calling European Culture superior, when it does not exclude anyone from partaking of its advantages seems all right. In that way is it fair to say modern culture is superior or valid? Objectively try other cultures, then determine that for yourself.
If by race you mean the traits of human beings, skin color, eye color, and shape of the bones. Then the answer is no, racism in a sense of exclusion is not valid. Knowing right from wrong and treating one another equally and fairly is the ticket here.
In a cultural sense, European and American values of fairness makes it clear how people should behave. Looking at Africa as cultures operate, the record does not look so fair, considering the violence operating there during the past decades.
Most of problems on the continent of Africa stem from european colonism and big business using the tribes against each other to this day. If the borders that were drawn for the continent were removed and allowed to be what the people want and big business pulled out most on the continent would be pretty peaceful.
Europeans are easily among the most barbaric in history period. Sure most of the big powers that exist stopped fighting that doesn't excuse the poor countries that still have their conflict. Certainly can't blame people of the African Continent for the massive military complex which allows more humans to die than at any other period of human history.
There are no real honorable values of western culture currently just excuses to do what is necessary to survive while the bulk of the world suffers and struggles. Quoting: CrazyNemo
You are wrong, obama just told blacks in africa to stop blame colonialism...I dont see any other ethnic groups blaming it, instead they are BEING successful..blame game is just lame if you dont take responsibility. Always pointing out at white man. |
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The Guy
User ID: 598959
United States
9/16/2009 2:26 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
"White" people are good at swimming and endurance running.
How can White people exist when there are no races? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772562
The quotation marks can be read as "co-called."
Political tags--such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and. so forth--are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.
-Robert Heinlein |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 767074
United States
9/16/2009 2:26 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Racism is only valid,if there isn't Double Standards.
An unfortunately,there are double standards.
Forget the fact that there is racism between the black and white population and how laws are enforced.
What about religious Racism..?
Christianity teaches tolerance,but only agrees and understands that there is only 1 way to Heaven. Through Jesus Christ. Yes,we believe you are condemned if you do not Pray and ask for forgiveness or at a minimum understand that jesus is the King of Kings,but we peacefully want you to understand the word of God. We hope and pray for your salvation.
Islam is probably the most racist religions on the earth. They want to rule the owrld religiously and Polically and if you do not agree,then they will kill you.It's that simple.
So I find it real sad,that we treat the African Americans as the only Group or minorities that when something happens too (or apparently even said) Racism...
But as many have seen on this board and in our government and Iran and all over the world,that it's apparently acceptable to hate on the Jews,blame the Jews for everything and spu an anti-semitism that makes racism towards the blacks "Nothing and very minor in comparison".
Jews have been persicuted WAY more than a black man/Woman could ever dream of imo...
Yet we see protests in our streets on american soil by groups hating the Jews and blaming the Jews in our streets.
If this was the KKK,there would be an uproar. Fact!
The point is...race isn't about color,it's about tolerance!
It's about someone being different,looking different or believing different than someone else.
But apparently,Black is the only color this world see's.
If someone asked me what would I rather be as far as having to deal with persicution and racism...I would choose to be a black man....WAYYYYYYYYYYYY before being a Jewish man anyday of the week.
I guess,if you were a jewish black man,you would really be screwed. But at least your color would qualify you...See my point?
Racism isn't color...it's an ideology. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772562
 Germany
9/16/2009 2:30 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Europeans are easily among the most barbaric in history period. Quoting: CrazyNemo
Nonsense.
No group has a historic monopoly on barbarism. The Mongols, Turks, various indigenous peoples were as barbaric as anyone.
Africans have a history of cannibalism, if you care to look it up. No "colonizers" forced that on them.
You are just spouting PC crap. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772574
 Australia
9/16/2009 2:36 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
No bashing, please. If you are a racist, saying something like, "It's just a realist view," would be sufficient. Quoting: The Guy
What a piece of shit, loaded poll - but entirely expected. |
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Celtic (Pictavian)
User ID: 701306
 United Kingdom
9/16/2009 2:38 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Human is human, racism is just another of the divisive tools that are used by those at the top to keep us at least temporarily conquered.
If racism doesnt exist, diversity doesnt either. If there are no differences, there is no global diversity.
Aim of TPTB is to make us think there are no differences (forced global melting pot) only way global dominance can be achiaved if they can destroy core of nationalism. Of course, they are using ethnic tensions for their own benefit as well, to get more control and security lol. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 766296
Nope, you've over-simplified what I said, plus I never said it doesn't exist- you don't have to look far to see it definitely does exist. Same with diversity but there's nothing wrong with diversity as far as I'm concerned, in fact I think it can be a positive factor.
Humans of any/many colours are easily distracted and we have short, selfish attention spans.
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Celtic (Pictavian)
User ID: 701306
United Kingdom
9/16/2009 2:40 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Anyone who thinks black people run faster than white people is a fool.
I must be a fool then.
I guess the dominance of black athletes in certain sports fooled me into believing black athletes have an upper hand in those sports.
It never occurred to me white people really run faster than blacks, they just don't do it on camera.
Thanks for setting me straight, knowledgeable internet guy.
Can't really look at any controlled pro sports. HS runners fare well. There are plenty of white hs 4 min mile runners. The first hs runner to break the 4 min mile was WHITE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772254
Hmm, not necessarily.
The first officially recorded Olympian to break the 4 minute mile may have been white, but you don't know who else might have done it in the past when precise time-pieces weren't around.
"If Humanity Wishes To Save Itself From Biospheric Destruction It Must Return To Living in Natural Time"
-- Pacal Votan
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Trust no-one, but trust your legs |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300884
Sweden
9/16/2009 2:42 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Most of problems on the continent of Africa stem from european colonism and big business using the tribes against each other to this day. If the borders that were drawn for the continent were removed and allowed to be what the people want and big business pulled out most on the continent would be pretty peaceful. Quoting: CrazyNemo
Pretty peaceful, yes, but eternally undeveloped.
If an African village has a well, it's because some white people felt sorry for them and drilled it for them. Black Africans do not dig wells on their own. They didn't do it before the whites arrived, and they do not copy the example the whites showed them either.
If an African country has a few roads, it's because white people built them, so they could transport some resources out of there. Black Africans do not build roads on their own. They do not make the simplest carts with wheels on their own either, so why would they?
Some of the developments in Africa have been made for the good of black people, and some have been made for the good of white people. But they have all been done by white people!
When white people got induced by the media to have a guilt trip over their involvement in Africa, and "pulled out" as you say, the only thing that happened, is the Chinese moved in.
And the Chinese tend to be worse overlords than the whites ever were. They ONLY do things for the good of China. The humanitarian ideal that drove the whites to build schools and clinics and so on for the blacks, was an example of Western Culture, not Chinese Culture.
Europeans are easily among the most barbaric in history period. Sure most of the big powers that exist stopped fighting that doesn't excuse the poor countries that still have their conflict. Certainly can't blame people of the African Continent for the massive military complex which allows more humans to die than at any other period of human history.
There are no real honorable values of western culture currently just excuses to do what is necessary to survive while the bulk of the world suffers and struggles. Quoting: CrazyNemo
Western culture has been hijacked by an enemy force that attempts to destroy it. It had honorable values originally, or it wouldn't have developed in the first place. But you're right it's mostly fucked up now, which is why it is going down.
Western culture was the crowning achievement of humanity, just because it wasn't strictly about POWER, it was also about doing what is RIGHT. It's sad to see it killed from within, and it's sad to see how some people who still benefit from the last fruits of its former glory piss on its tombstone. |
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The Guy
User ID: 598959
United States
9/16/2009 2:59 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
What a piece of shit, loaded poll - but entirely expected. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772574
How so? I tried to make it as fair as possible. Were there some other choices I should have added?
Political tags--such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and. so forth--are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.
-Robert Heinlein |
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Celtic (Pictavian)
User ID: 701306
United Kingdom
9/16/2009 3:07 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
What a piece of shit, loaded poll - but entirely expected.
How so? I tried to make it as fair as possible. Were there some other choices I should have added? Quoting: The Guy
How about "Different races have different areas of expertise"?
I don't personally think it was loaded, just making a suggestion.
Last Edited by Celtic (Pictavian) on 9/16/2009 at 3:07 PM
"If Humanity Wishes To Save Itself From Biospheric Destruction It Must Return To Living in Natural Time"
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The Guy
User ID: 598959
United States
9/16/2009 3:12 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
How about "Different races have different areas of expertise"?
I don't personally think it was loaded, just making a suggestion.
I thought that was covered in "different but equal." Oh well.
Political tags--such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and. so forth--are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.
-Robert Heinlein |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772254
United States
9/16/2009 3:13 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Can't really look at any controlled pro sports. HS runners fare well. There are plenty of white hs 4 min mile runners. The first hs runner to break the 4 min mile was WHITE.
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Hmm, not necessarily.
The first officially recorded Olympian to break the 4 minute mile may have been white, but you don't know who else might have done it in the past when precise time-pieces weren't around. Quoting: Celtic (Pictavian)
I don't think high school excluded blacks from sports at that time, and so it was a fair playing ground without politics and fascist owners involved. Unlike the Olympics, college and pro sports who have affirmative action controls.
First high school 4 minute mile
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
American basketball 'Dream Team' beat in the Olympics by an all WHITE European team, placing third.
[link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772606
Germany
9/16/2009 3:20 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
No bashing, please. If you are a racist, saying something like, "It's just a realist view," would be sufficient.
What a piece of shit, loaded poll - but entirely expected. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772574
The Guy is predictable, if nothing else. |
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Celtic (Pictavian)
User ID: 701306
United Kingdom
9/16/2009 3:24 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
How about "Different races have different areas of expertise"?
I don't personally think it was loaded, just making a suggestion.
I thought that was covered in "different but equal." Oh well.
Well.. I'm not one for splitting hairs, but I meant some races are better at some things and not so good at others.
Equal on some levels, yes, but not quite equal, talent or speciality wise.
Last Edited by Celtic (Pictavian) on 9/16/2009 at 3:24 PM
"If Humanity Wishes To Save Itself From Biospheric Destruction It Must Return To Living in Natural Time"
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Trust no-one, but trust your legs |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772254
United States
9/16/2009 3:38 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Well.. I'm not one for splitting hairs, but I meant some races are better at some things and not so good at others.
Equal on some levels, yes, but not quite equal, talent or speciality wise. Quoting: Celtic (Pictavian)
You know where that leads? Whites are SMARTER! And i don't believe it. |
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Celtic (Pictavian)
User ID: 701306
United Kingdom
9/16/2009 5:14 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Well.. I'm not one for splitting hairs, but I meant some races are better at some things and not so good at others.
Equal on some levels, yes, but not quite equal, talent or speciality wise.
You know where that leads? Whites are SMARTER! And i don't believe it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772254
Maybe in your mind, not mine.
"If Humanity Wishes To Save Itself From Biospheric Destruction It Must Return To Living in Natural Time"
-- Pacal Votan
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Trust no-one, but trust your legs |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718429
United States
9/16/2009 7:31 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
"White" people are good at swimming and endurance running. Quoting: The Guy
I would add strength sports. East Africans dominate marathons. West Africans dominate sprints. Europeans are better at middle-distance running. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772738
United States
9/16/2009 7:36 PM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
Europeans are easily among the most barbaric in history period.
Nonsense.
No group has a historic monopoly on barbarism. The Mongols, Turks, various indigenous peoples were as barbaric as anyone.
Africans have a history of cannibalism, if you care to look it up. No "colonizers" forced that on them.
You are just spouting PC crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772562
You are correct, sir. We stink as a species. No race is exempt. Both the racists and PC eunuchs are full of it. Women aren't superior to men, either, BTW. |
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The Guy
User ID: 683039
United States
9/17/2009 5:39 AM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
You know where that leads? Whites are SMARTER! And i don't believe it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772254
Actually, tests show that east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are the smartest. However, I think this reflects cultures that encourage academic achievement, and not innate ability.
Political tags--such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and. so forth--are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.
-Robert Heinlein |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 770298
United States
9/17/2009 6:56 AM | | Re: Is racism a valid philosophy? | Quote |
"in till the color of a man skin is of no more significant then the color of his eyes there still war"
bobmarley.
calling someone a racist seems to me an act of deparation and also for the accuser an excuse and cop-out.
playing the race card i notice colored people use it alot. (no im not isolating in general) but look at others who have been oppressed, THE INDIANS (no i feel bad for them. they are the REAL NATIVE AMERICANS) they got the real short end of the stick. THE HAWAIIANS. THANKS TO THE BRITISH ROYALTY AND FAKE MISSIONARIES (CASTLE AND COOKE)(BISHOP ESTATES) THAT ARE ALL WEALTHY LAND OWNERS IN HAWAII NOW ETC... THE JAPANESE DURING THE WW2 THEY WERE HELD IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS. THE JEWS DURING THE HOLOCAUST. YOU DONT HEAR ME CRYIN DO YOU. THE LIST GO ON AND ON
AFRICANS ARE NO EXCEPTION
ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE TO POLITICALLY CORRECT NOW DAYS.
PEOPLE DEAL WITH WHAT CARDS YOU WERE DEALT
LEARN TO FORGIVE . ITS NOT GOOD TO HOLD ON TO GRUDGES.
on a side note did you see the news week article that says you are born racist due to some type of gene in your DNA .LOL. i beg to differ you r breed to be a racist. |
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