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Debunking the lies of the bible???

 
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Stinkin low life troll..
Come up with somthing more original than
God,the Bible or Religion...


You should...stfu
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NEW AGE = Idol1
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I was raised catholic. Felt it wasn't right so I stopped going.


Not all Catholics are evil and worship Satan...but their doctrine does. Your feelings about that were probably discernment. The Bible has all the answers...don't believe all the scoffers here on GLP. Trust your Heavenly Father.

I really wasn't attacking you OP...I've liked you ever since I read your emoticon story. :)

Hah. Thank you but I trust more now in the Heavenly Father now more I ever have. I have spent a lot of time thinking things through, processing them. Theres so much information. I feel like im a 486 trying to run windows vista. (Bill Gates you have too much money)
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That makes my day to hear this OP. I have spent years and years searching for truth (ever since I turned off my TV...lol). I have found much truth...but always mixed with lies. See the parable of the wheat and the tares.

Every rabbit hole I explored led to the same abyss, some truth, but no reasons. My searching was not in vain, My Heavenly Father revealed himself to me, because of my hunger. Well, let me rephrase that: My Heavenly Father revealed Satan to me first. The reason, I think, is because there is much evidence of Satan. Satan wants us to be enslaved and separated from G-d. He does a great job. But for him to do this, he must maticulously scheme...which leaves a lot of worldly evidence, because his means are worldly.

Our Father, on the other hand, created us to be free. For us to be free, no other action is required...thus leaving little to no evidence, and requiring faith.

I was not raised religious at all. My search for the truth and the grace of G-d, led me to the one and only truth. The Bible.

In fact, I have a theory. The world as we know it, the world controlled by Satan, is meticulously constructed to keep us from G-d. It's there to keep us from the real truth...Yeshua. There are two battles going on...the battle for your flesh...which we all lose to some degree, and the battle for our spirit. Let me tell you, if you live a worldly life of flesh indulgence, you don't stand a chance at fighting the real battle waging 'within.'

The battle that really matters is that one...the spiritual battle within. If your caught up in the fleshly battle...you are losing the spiritual one.

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JC was NOT cut Titus 1:10
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Stinkin low life troll..
Come up with somthing more original than
God,the Bible or Religion...


You should...stfu


Scoffers...like right on cue.

Hey Scoffer, what 's more original than G-d?
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God,the Bible and Religion are so over trolled on
glp that it get's stupid..

How about a troll that requires some effort and
originality..
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OK what is the one thing in the bible tells us about the location of hell? The center of the earth is where "hell" is located. Right? Wrong.I believe that it isn't hell at all.

What if I told you that it was in fact a giant crystal that provides energy to the planet, that each and everyone of us share energy with this crystal. Each and every form of life on this planet share energy with this crystal regardless of whether of not they feel its power. This crystal is called Gaia the entire globe rings with the power and energy of Gaia. What if I told you that you can feel the energy through meditation?

Now if you're still with me... you'll probably want to read the rest of this.

Saying that hell was at the center of the earth would serve as a method to distract and disconnect this energy. This would be a plot by the illuminate/evil/demons to hide the true existence of God. I mean... every human... man, women are child is created with the basic understanding of the existence of good and evil, God and devil (kiss my ass you don't get a capital asshole)

The fact that the bible would want to shroud something like this by putting the depths of hell at the center of the earth makes perfect sense. We argue about the bible being right and wrong. We argue about the interpretations of the bible which leads to distrust and malice between to relations. Next... comes war... death... Look at Christianity... Look at it's history... It stinks of death and bloodshed.

In our society what are the characters that stick out in the minds of Christian children? Still guessing? Jesus, God, Santa (did you know those can be rearranged from Santa to satan) the Claus part may or may not play a part in this but i cant make it out. Interesting eh?

Now lets take that a little further. Kids grow up admiring satan claus. Such a good soul. Works hard to get the kids material possessions. In doing so instilling greed on them as they head back to school and hear all their rich friend getting all these awesome gifts while their parents could only afford a gift or two.

What happens when that child finds out santa claus was a lie? What happens when they find out there friends are being blessed with all these materialistic gifts despite the fact of the good they tried to spread in the world? They get sour. Next its the eastern bunny, then the tooth fairy... then........... God........... then...... Jesus.....

You see where I am going with this? Christianity teaches you the existence of God but also tries to steer you away from him.


Right?
Wrong?
Maybe?

Namaste
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THE ORIGIN AND DESTINY OF THE EARTH. 

"We believe…that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory" (A of F 10). LDS revelation declares that the earth is destined to become a celestial body fit for the abode of the most exalted or celestial beings (D&C 88:18-20, 25-26). This is a unique departure from the traditional Christian beliefs that heaven is the dwelling place for all saved beings, and that after fulfilling its useful role the earth will become uninhabited, or be destroyed. Doctrine and Covenants 130:9 teaches that finally the earth will become sanctified and immortalized, and be made crystal-like. The "sea of glass" spoken of in Revelation 4:6 "is the earth, in its sanctified, immortal, and eternal state" (D&C 77:1). - [link to www.lightplanet.com]

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I was raised catholic. Felt it wasn't right so I stopped going.


Not all Catholics are evil and worship Satan...but their doctrine does. Your feelings about that were probably discernment. The Bible has all the answers...don't believe all the scoffers here on GLP. Trust your Heavenly Father.

I really wasn't attacking you OP...I've liked you ever since I read your emoticon story. :)

Hah. Thank you but I trust more now in the Heavenly Father now more I ever have. I have spent a lot of time thinking things through, processing them. Theres so much information. I feel like im a 486 trying to run windows vista. (Bill Gates you have too much money)


That makes my day to hear this OP. I have spent years and years searching for truth (ever since I turned off my TV...lol). I have found much truth...but always mixed with lies. See the parable of the wheat and the tares.

Every rabbit hole I explored led to the same abyss, some truth, but no reasons. My searching was not in vain, My Heavenly Father revealed himself to me, because of my hunger. Well, let me rephrase that: My Heavenly Father revealed Satan to me first. The reason, I think, is because there is much evidence of Satan. Satan wants us to be enslaved and separated from G-d. He does a great job. But for him to do this, he must maticulously scheme...which leaves a lot of worldly evidence, because his means are worldly.

Our Father, on the other hand, created us to be free. For us to be free, no other action is required...thus leaving little to no evidence, and requiring faith.

I was not raised religious at all. My search for the truth and the grace of G-d, led me to the one and only truth. The Bible.

In fact, I have a theory. The world as we know it, the world controlled by Satan, is meticulously constructed to keep us from G-d. It's there to keep us from the real truth...Yeshua. There are two battles going on...the battle for your flesh...which we all lose to some degree, and the battle for our spirit. Let me tell you, if you live a worldly life of flesh indulgence, you don't stand a chance at fighting the real battle waging 'within.'

The battle that really matters is that one...the spiritual battle within. If your caught up in the fleshly battle...you are losing the spiritual one.
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Nice...........
and you are so right get rid of tv's.
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OK what is the one thing in the bible tells us about the location of hell? The center of the earth is where "hell" is located. Right? Wrong.I believe that it isn't hell at all.

........Meaningless babble........
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Lets discuss this, Hell is listed 54 times in the King James. Out of these, NOT ONCE does the bible say that hell is at the center of the earth. So the foundation of all
that you believe is based upon something that you have not seen for yourself. Yet we are to believe that which you do not even understand yourself?

So please where do you get that hell is at the center of the earth?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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The meny.."word"..s of (god)..

or not for private interpatation...

"ONLY FOR THE ONE"...that fulfills it...
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I am not using this as a tool to say anyone is wrong and I am not saying this to hurt anyone. My theories no doubt rock they very foundation of Christianity and other religions as well. That does not mean I work for the NWO. I don't want money. I don't want greed. I don't need your blood. I exist for a reason. To spread the word of God, the love, and reconnect people with Gaia.
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You will not rock anyone. People will believe what ever they want to. There is no reason in belief and your hypotheses are merely personal belief. No matter how right it seems to you there is someone somewhere who will perceive you as infested by demons, evil or Satan. Just remember your belief system is in your head, just as much as anyone elses is. You believe what you imagine, so do Christians, Muslimes and everyone else. The reason you exist is not to teach others your great wisdom. It is to appreciate and enjoy the creation that you find yourself to be in, and to allow others the same.
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I am not using this as a tool to say anyone is wrong and I am not saying this to hurt anyone. My theories no doubt rock they very foundation of Christianity and other religions as well. That does not mean I work for the NWO. I don't want money. I don't want greed. I don't need your blood. I exist for a reason. To spread the word of God, the love, and reconnect people with Gaia.


You will not rock anyone. People will believe what ever they want to. There is no reason in belief and your hypotheses are merely personal belief. No matter how right it seems to you there is someone somewhere who will perceive you as infested by demons, evil or Satan. Just remember your belief system is in your head, just as much as anyone elses is. You believe what you imagine, so do Christians, Muslimes and everyone else. The reason you exist is not to teach others your great wisdom. It is to appreciate and enjoy the creation that you find yourself to be in, and to allow others the same.
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...canadate for the.."chosen"one

...but still i have to admit

that in all this ...foolishness...

and ..."folly'

who could truly be"worthy" to .....(judge)

as what....GOD HAS SET UP...mankind

let thoes without..sin

cast the first stone...

judge not ...and you shall not be judged

"fear God and depart from evil:for this is the beginning and ending of all wisdom"




and what man on this earth could inpurt "knowaldge"

without ...wisdom
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"fear God and depart from evil:for this is the beginning and ending of all wisdom"
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I do not fear God. God is not meant to be feared. God has instilled the strength to find the truth in myself and expose it to as many people as possible.
Open your mind. Your perception of reality is about to change.
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...canadate for the.."chosen"one
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What do you mean by that?
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I do not fear God. God is not meant to be feared. God has instilled the strength to find the truth in myself and expose it to as many people as possible.
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Finding truth, you do not seek truth, you seek that which will give Glory to yourself.

You do not fear God, because Satan has told you lies and you want to believe them.


You want to Claim lies in the bible, yet you have not read the bible.


You will know who God is the question will you know before it is too late.


YOU are excited by the "chosen" one. Yet he has already been chosen.


You desperately want more than what you have, yet you do nothing with what has been given.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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Hell is actually a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem, according to John Armstrong. I really enjoy his videos and insight. Here's the one on hell:


The place for seekers who don't want to go to church:

[link to www.goddiscussion.com]
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You do not fear God, because Satan has told you lies and you want to believe them.
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I'm sorry but you're mistaken. I have not given myself to satan. Quite the opposite my friend. If you read any of my other posts you would no that to be true. The answers I seek have been destroyed by powers out of my control. Nothing on this earth can provide me with the truth answers and understanding of our existence.

This is a method you've been taught. You know God exists and yet you have chosen the fear of God to control your life. It was never intended this way.

I pray for you and your family.

God Bless you.
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What part of this concept is SO HARD to fathom?

Any time you see certain key phrases, among which are: crystal, gaia, ascended, light, vibration, dimension, energy, and on and on, you can feel pretty confident that tuning out the load of bullcrap being foisted upon you will in no way be detrimental to your spiritual exsistance.

These phrases are code for "The speaker is a moran, and is trying to baffle you with bullcrap"

Just that simple...
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You want to Claim lies in the bible, yet you have not read the bible.
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No I have not read the bible I had to sighted to me word by word. I never understood the fear aspect behind God. It doesn't make sense. Kind of like how 1+1= 6? There's no logic behind it. God is this all forgiving that we must dedicate our lives to and yet we must fear him? You're mistaken dear friend.

Your are very very mistaken but being mistaken will not send you to hell. No I will make claims that what I believe is right and what you believe is wrong. It's not my place to do that. Nor is it your place to say that about me.


YOU are excited by the "chosen" one. Yet he has already been chosen.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob
What are you talking about?


You desperately want more than what you have, yet you do nothing with what has been given.
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Done nothing eh? You speak of educating myself on certain topics before passing judgment. I had the bible cited to me word for word when i grew up. I know what the general message is and the idea of God existences in the bible but i fear his word and his love is jaded behind the correction of man and evil.

I have done more then my fair share since my awakening on Sept 4.

You have read the bible and the fact that you speak of me as though I am going to hell because I don't fear God stinks of fear mongering.

God Bless you brother.
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All the holiday traditions you just mentioned are not at all Christian...let alone religious...they are pagan through and through. And yes, pagans throughout history have gone to great lengths to keep you from G-d.

And the Bible never says that Hell is the center of the Earth.

The bloodbaths of which you speak, are a result of the Catholic Church. The Vatican is hardly Christian...in fact, they are Satanic...and responsible for all the Pagan traditions you mentioned above.

You my friend, and your Gaia worship, are first in line to swallow the NWO Religion propaganda...how does it feel to be a pioneer for the NWO?

You should really do some research and study what's really going on. It seems you haven't a clue. And maybe lay off the Harry Potter books.
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I need to reiterate my statements here. I confused Christianity with Catholicism.
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The reason for this change is i recall an event I had while at a Christian Youth group I went to. I was in the back of the room waiting like everyone else excitedly to go out for a night of floor hockey when i began to burst into tears. I was then surrounded by 10 other people. I don't know what happened that day but I had a connection with God. I felt his calling.

A couple months later I forgot about it. It left my mind until recently... that was 9 years ago or so now...

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They Are Misleading You

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Why the direct attack on Christianity in Zeitgeist The Movie Part 1 (part one on religion)? It insinuates that the story of Jesus is merely a drop in the bucket of many saviors with the same story. That they were all born on Dec 25th, crucified, ressurected etc...

I found it SHOCKING! Sooooo shocking that I spent a month and a half of my life researching the valididty and sources of the claims and this is what I found.

I want to extend a personal thank you to my friend Drakul from the David dIcke forums, for lighting the spark.

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References by request from my friend ecstatica23:

Note: I may add to this list as Im positive Ive left something out

Dr. Norman Geisler writes, "The first real parallel of a dying and rising god does not appear until A.D. 150, more than a hundred years after the origin of Christianity.

Dr. Gary Habermas and Dr. J.P. Moreland write, "Not one clear case of any alleged resurrection teaching appears in any pagan text before the late second century A.D., almost one hundred years after the New Testament was written."

Charlie Campbell says, "To insist that Jesus Christ is a myth—that He never existed—as the Zeitgeist movie does, is foolish. Beside the twenty seven New Testament documents that verify He lived, there are thirty nine sources outside of the Bible, written within 150 years of Jesus life that mention Him. These sources include the Jewish Talmud, the Roman historian Tacitus, the Didache, Flavius Josephus, Pliny the Younger, Suetonius, the Gnostic gospels (e.g., the gospel of Thomas), etc. These extrabiblical sources reveal to us more than 100 facts about His life, teaching, death and even resurrection."

Blavatsky
[link to www.blavatsky.net]
[link to www.blavatskyarchives.com]

Theosophy:
THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY: Its Origin, Plan and Aims
[link to www.theosociety.org]

Lucifer Magazine
Publications availble for purchase on www.amazon.com

Jordan Maxwell:
[link to www.truthseeker.com]
[link to www.veoh.com]

Kersey Graves:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.infidels.org]

Christ Conspiracy
[link to books.google.com]

Alice Bailey
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
Discipleship in the New Age Vol I
[link to www.lucistrust.org]
The Reappearance of the Christ by Alice A. Bailey
[link to www.lucistrust.org]

UN Charter (focused on chpt 8-11):
[link to www.un.org]

The Garland of Nation-Souls: Complete Talks at the United Nations By Sri Chinmoy
[link to books.google.com]

THE NEW AGE INFLUENCE AT THE UNITED NATIONS
[link to contenderministries.org]

Aquarian Age Comminity (UN NGO)
[link to www.aquaac.org]


article entitled, "A New World Religion", by William Jasper
[link to www.cuttingedge.org]


Share International/Benjamin Creme:
[link to www.share-international.org]

On Masons worshiping Lucifer:
[link to www.cuttingedge.org]


On Masons deceiving:
Albert Pike, father of the Scottish Rite, writes: "Masonry conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it...."

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It is secret elitist societies that influence things from out of view of the masses. Not clergy, not all this or all that of any *RECOGNIZED* publicly and in full group, but INDIVIDUALS that belong to seek2rid societies of its own untampered mojo and replace it with the SECRET SOCIETIES mojo slo-mo to limit awareness of the masses.
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Please I need to make something very clear here. I am not trying to attack anyone or anything. I simply think that this crystal at the center of the earth is not to be used as a false God. I believe the crystal is not God to be worshipped, but a tool created by God for be in connection with God.

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I've never understood why God would favor Abel over Cain. It does not seem characterist of God to favor one of his sons over another. Bloodshed is not what God needs to be pleased. God wants us to love eachother. God wants us to heal eachother. God wants us to live in peace and thrive.

Why does the story of Cain and Abel depict the first string of jelously. It doesn't take a very intelligent person to see that if two people work toward the same goals and two different offerings are being given to God being this all knowning all forgiving being would accept to gifts from both. Not praise one and not the other. What is the symbolism behind God accepting Abels gift over Cains? Bloodshed led to more bloodshed and jelous in some form... did it not?

This is a flaw that Humans do by showing favoritisum in our sons and daughters but for God to show this as well?

Something doesnt add up here.

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I've never understood why God would favor Abel over Cain. It does not seem characterist of God to favor one of his sons over another. Bloodshed is not what God needs to be pleased. God wants us to love eachother. God wants us to heal eachother. God wants us to live in peace and thrive.

Why does the story of Cain and Abel depict the first string of jelously. It doesn't take a very intelligent person to see that if two people work toward the same goals and two different offerings are being given to God being this all knowning all forgiving being would accept to gifts from both. Not praise one and not the other. What is the symbolism behind God accepting Abels gift over Cains? Bloodshed led to more bloodshed and jelous in some form... did it not?

This is a flaw that Humans do by showing favoritisum in our sons and daughters but for God to show this as well?

Something doesnt add up here.
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It's a lesson of the heart. Able offered to G-d out of a pure heart, because he loved G-d, and he wanted to. Cain's heart was in the wrong place, hence the jealousy and hatred for his brother.

It's pretty simple really. If you heart is dark, your willingness to please G-d is not genuine.
Remember, G-d is Love.

Do you want love out of obligation? I'm guessing not. That's not love, is it?
Why would G-d want any different? We are created in His Image after all.

Cain did not love G-d...so G-d didn't want his offering.

And just my opinion, but you are falling into an age old trap if you think G-d is to blame for our wickedness. He wants us to love Him above all. If we did this, we would automatically treat each other right.

He lays it all out for us, we are just unwilling to live the way we are supposed to.

Last Edited by TurnOffYourTV on 09/18/2009 01:00 PM
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And just my opinion, but you are falling into an age old trap if you think G-d is to blame for our wickedness. He wants us to love Him above all. If we did this, we would automatically treat each other right.

He lays it all out for us, we are just unwilling to live the way we are supposed to.
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I don't think that God did that out of wickedness. The point I'm trying to make is that what if it didn't happen at all?

Please don't take this the wrong way i am not an anti-christ i am not satans follower. I am trying to rationalize the stories from the bible as I know them and for me if Cain didn't have God in his heart then I personally believe that God would not have "Rubbed" it in his face persay. That causes nothing more but further disconnection from God and further malice and defeats the purpose of God trying to get people to feel love rather then hate.

The equation is not adding up here in this story.

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I mean what is the symbol behind those images? A sacrfic of an animal in the name of God? Does God really need us to take life in order to give life to give love? Cain grew food that came directly from the earth but that wasnt good enough. He must have believed in God enough to give the sacrfice but it wasn't good enough...
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You do not fear God, because Satan has told you lies and you want to believe them.
I'm sorry but you're mistaken. I have not given myself to satan. Quite the opposite my friend. If you read any of my other posts you would no that to be true. The answers I seek have been destroyed by powers out of my control. Nothing on this earth can provide me with the truth answers and understanding of our existence.

This is a method you've been taught. You know God exists and yet you have chosen the fear of God to control your life. It was never intended this way.

I pray for you and your family.

God Bless you.
 Quoting: Blitz


Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

From Strong's for "fear"

1) fear, terror, fearing

a) fear, terror

b) awesome or terrifying thing (object causing fear)

c) fear (of God), respect, reverence, piety

d) revered

hf
"In thy presence is fulness of joy."
Psa. 16:11

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