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~*Spiral Light*~
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Netanyahu....news flash. Terror, is TERROR. Killing, is killing. Wrong, is wrong. No mater who's doing it. Israel, the US, Russia, China, anywhere. If wrongs are being committed, if war crimes are being committed, root it out like any other cancer. Hold those accountable.
What I find amusing, is when Palestinians fight, it is called "terrorism". When Israel fights, it is called (By them) "Anti-terrorist operations". A convenient *out* for the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians.
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Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Israel News, Gaza
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu requested the aid of Russian President Dimity Medvedev on Thursday in rejecting a United Nations report alleging Israeli war crimes during its three week offensive in Gaza last winter.
Netanyahu, speaking on the phone to the Russian president, added that he felt the UN report and its conclusions could also hurt Russia's own ability to act on terror.
The conversation with Medvedez came after Netanyahu rejected the report earlier THursday, warning world leaders that they and their anti-terror forces could be targets for similar charges.
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Netanyahu made the remarks while speaking to Israeli TV stations on the occasion of Rosh Hashana, the Jewish new year, which begins Friday.
He said the UN report ignored Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza and the Palestinian rocket attacks that preceded Israel's invasion, adding that lessons must be learned for future agreements with the Palestinians.
"I am telling international leaders: You are telling us that you support our right of self defense. Don't tell us that after the next agreement, tell us now. Reject the findings of this commission," Netanyahu told Channel 2 TV.
"Come out now, condemn this report and act to quash its consequences now," he went on to say.
The report of the UN commission, headed by South African justice Richard Goldstone, faulted Israel for civilian deaths in Gaza. Israel charged that Gaza's Islamic Hamas rulers were responsible for placing rocket launchers and forces in crowded neighborhoods. About 1,400 Palestinians were killed during the three-week conflict.
The report also criticized Hamas for firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
Netanyahu called on the world to oppose the conclusion that formal charges could be brought against Israeli soldiers, officers and leaders as a result of the Gaza war. He said it was a blow to the fight against terrorism and warned that other countries could find their soldiers and leaders in the dock as the result of anti-terror operations.
Late Thursday evening, Netanyahu spoke with Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, asking for his support in curbing the effects of the Goldstone report. Netanyahu stressed that the report's conclusions compromise Russia's capability to combat terrorism, as well as Israel's.
Earlier Thursday, a U.S. diplomat criticized the United Nations Human Rights Council for giving an "unacceptable" mandate to the fact finding mission in the Gaza Strip.
Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said
Washington has had "serious concerns" about the mandate given to the Goldstone led four-member mission by the Geneva-based council. The U.S. officially took its seat in the 46-member body in early September.
"We have long expressed our very serious concerns about the mandate given by the Human Rights Council prior to our joining it," Rice said in her first reaction to the findings by Goldstone on Tuesday.
"We view the mandate as ... one-sided and basically unbalanced," she said. She also objected to Goldstone's recommendations, including one for the 15-nation Security Council to investigate and refer the war crimes to the International Criminal Court at The Hague.
Rice urged both Israelis and Palestinians to look to the future in order to resolve their conflict.
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9/18/2009 1:06 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
well ever seen israel blowing up people with people? This is why israel have to defense themselve because they very tiny people surround by alot hater.... |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:08 AM
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Ever seen the racism in Israel? Do you know about the illegal occupation? How about the Israeli aggression towards it's neighbors? |
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9/18/2009 1:10 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
no matter, how would you feel if cockroach with bomb scarp on their's back blowing up your kitchen very day? |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:11 AM
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no matter, how would you feel if cockroach with bomb scarp on their's back blowing up your kitchen very day? Quoting: 34
I would immediately end the illegal occupation. I would accept a two-state solution. I would dismantle all illegal settlements on Palestinian land. Go back to 1948 borders. I would destroy the "wall" of hate between palis and Israel. and I would stop threatening Iran. That's just for starters.
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:12 AM
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Woops double post sry
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9/18/2009 1:14 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
no matter, how would you feel if cockroach with bomb scarp on their's back blowing up your kitchen very day?
I would immediately end the illegal occupation. I would accept a two-state solution. I would dismantle all illegal settlements on Palestinian land. Go back to 1948 borders. I would destroy the "wall" of hate between palis and Israel. and I would stop threatening Iran. That's just for starters. Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
you are wrong, why they two state solution? It doesn't make sense! Palestinian have alot home and acre everywhere, iran, irag, afganigan, saudi, africa, gaza, lebanon and israel is only smaller than wisconsin! talk about selfish palis! |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:16 AM
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With Palestine recognized statehood, Israel AND Hamas would be held accountable for war crimes in international criminal court.
Also, I would do like Obama does, and talk to other countries, instead of threatening them all the time.
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:21 AM
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Also, if I was Israel, I would become a signatory to the IAEA and the NPT. I would declare all nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction. I would allow outside inspections to their nuclear and other weapons facilities...
There's loads of different approaches Israel could take towards their perceived enemies...why stick with one that never works, and turns the international community against Israel for their gross treatment and terror delivered to palis, lebanese, Syrians, etc?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again that didn't work in the first place. |
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tangelo
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9/18/2009 1:22 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
Poppycock. |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:23 AM
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Poppycock. Quoting: tangelo
how so? |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/18/2009 1:23 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
Also, if I was Israel, I would become a signatory to the IAEA and the NPT. I would declare all nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction. I would allow outside inspections to their nuclear and other weapons facilities...
There's loads of different approaches Israel could take towards their perceived enemies...why stick with one that never works, and turns the international community against Israel for their gross treatment and terror delivered to palis, lebanese, Syrians, etc?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again that didn't work in the first place. Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
+1 |
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tangelo
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9/18/2009 1:42 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
Poppycock.
how so? Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
Well, considering all your suggestions......
if you were in such a position as to negotiate the ME problem (which even the greatest and well studied scholars and leaders on the planet have not been able to solve)
you may have to consider the fact that in order to for your 'ideas' and 'solutions' to really solve this complicated ME conundrum in the real world and to bring about your 'peace plan'...... a completely objective approach would be required.
Objectivity is used when a person wishes or needs to give equal consideration to both sides of any argument in order to solve a problem successfully.
This is a trait (objectivity) it appears to me that you lack.
Therefore, in my opinion your suggestions are poppycock because they come from an extremist viewpoint, not an objective viewpoint.
Now if you were to talk sense that rises above 'taking sides'......
Well, then I would not say.......poppycock to you.
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Anonymous Coward
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9/18/2009 1:48 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
do any of u realize that israel was blowing people up before it was created |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 1:51 AM
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Poppycock.
how so?
Well, considering all your suggestions......
if you were in such a position as to negotiate the ME problem (which even the greatest and well studied scholars and leaders on the planet have not been able to solve)
you may have to consider the fact that in order to for your 'ideas' and 'solutions' to really solve this complicated ME conundrum in the real world and to bring about your 'peace plan'...... a completely objective approach would be required.
Objectivity is used when a person wishes or needs to give equal consideration to both sides of any argument in order to solve a problem successfully.
This is a trait (objectivity) it appears to me that you lack.
Therefore, in my opinion your suggestions are poppycock because they come from an extremist viewpoint, not an objective viewpoint.
Now if you were to talk sense that rises above 'taking sides'......
Well, then I would not say.......poppycock to you. Quoting: tangelo
not objective? I am all for Hamas being held accountable for war crimes, just as Israel may well have to.
If I wanted the destruction of Israel, I would yell "GO HAMAS!" but I don't. |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/18/2009 2:03 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
well ever seen israel blowing up people with people? This is why israel have to defense themselve because they very tiny people surround by alot hater.... Quoting: 34
HM .JEWISH MAN SHOOTS 2 ARABS IN JERUSALEM .YETNEWS. a youth in his 20s says he fired at arabs next to him after feeling threatened .a jewish man opened fire at two arabs in a parking lot in jerusalem he told investigators that he fired at the two a man in his 40s and a 13 year old boy . he the shooter said he felt threatened by THE FACT THAT THE ARABS WERE STANDING NEXT TO HIM.----PS IF THE ARABS WERE THE ONES WITH THE GUN THEY WOULD BE CALLED TERRORIST.. |
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tangelo
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9/18/2009 2:05 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
Poppycock.
how so?
Well, considering all your suggestions......
if you were in such a position as to negotiate the ME problem (which even the greatest and well studied scholars and leaders on the planet have not been able to solve)
you may have to consider the fact that in order to for your 'ideas' and 'solutions' to really solve this complicated ME conundrum in the real world and to bring about your 'peace plan'...... a completely objective approach would be required.
Objectivity is used when a person wishes or needs to give equal consideration to both sides of any argument in order to solve a problem successfully.
This is a trait (objectivity) it appears to me that you lack.
Therefore, in my opinion your suggestions are poppycock because they come from an extremist viewpoint, not an objective viewpoint.
Now if you were to talk sense that rises above 'taking sides'......
Well, then I would not say.......poppycock to you.
not objective? I am all for Hamas being held accountable for war crimes, just as Israel may well have to.
If I wanted the destruction of Israel, I would yell "GO HAMAS!" but I don't. Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
Look, let's not play games here....I know the Palestinian thing is your shtick.
No need to mince words right?
It's cool with me if you wanna roll with the Pals.
My point was that you don't strike me as the objective type.
I tend to communicate better with such persons that's all.
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Anonymous Coward
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9/18/2009 2:08 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
yeah yeah yeah, yadda yadda yadda.
Look at a map and see for yourself how incredible large Israel is compared to the countries sorounding it!!-not.
quit whining IMHO. |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 2:17 AM
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Poppycock.
how so?
Well, considering all your suggestions......
if you were in such a position as to negotiate the ME problem (which even the greatest and well studied scholars and leaders on the planet have not been able to solve)
you may have to consider the fact that in order to for your 'ideas' and 'solutions' to really solve this complicated ME conundrum in the real world and to bring about your 'peace plan'...... a completely objective approach would be required.
Objectivity is used when a person wishes or needs to give equal consideration to both sides of any argument in order to solve a problem successfully.
This is a trait (objectivity) it appears to me that you lack.
Therefore, in my opinion your suggestions are poppycock because they come from an extremist viewpoint, not an objective viewpoint.
Now if you were to talk sense that rises above 'taking sides'......
Well, then I would not say.......poppycock to you.
not objective? I am all for Hamas being held accountable for war crimes, just as Israel may well have to.
If I wanted the destruction of Israel, I would yell "GO HAMAS!" but I don't.
Look, let's not play games here....I know the Palestinian thing is your shtick.
No need to mince words right?
It's cool with me if you wanna roll with the Pals.
My point was that you don't strike me as the objective type.
I tend to communicate better with such persons that's all. Quoting: tangelo
Look, lets not play games here....I know the Zionist thing is your shtick.
No need to mince words right?
It's cool with me if you wanna roll with the Zionists.
My point is, you don't strike me as the objective type.
I tend to communicate better with such persons that's all.
Mirror, mirror? |
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tangelo
User ID: 766925
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9/18/2009 2:27 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
Poppycock.
how so?
Well, considering all your suggestions......
if you were in such a position as to negotiate the ME problem (which even the greatest and well studied scholars and leaders on the planet have not been able to solve)
you may have to consider the fact that in order to for your 'ideas' and 'solutions' to really solve this complicated ME conundrum in the real world and to bring about your 'peace plan'...... a completely objective approach would be required.
Objectivity is used when a person wishes or needs to give equal consideration to both sides of any argument in order to solve a problem successfully.
This is a trait (objectivity) it appears to me that you lack.
Therefore, in my opinion your suggestions are poppycock because they come from an extremist viewpoint, not an objective viewpoint.
Now if you were to talk sense that rises above 'taking sides'......
Well, then I would not say.......poppycock to you.
not objective? I am all for Hamas being held accountable for war crimes, just as Israel may well have to.
If I wanted the destruction of Israel, I would yell "GO HAMAS!" but I don't.
Look, let's not play games here....I know the Palestinian thing is your shtick.
No need to mince words right?
It's cool with me if you wanna roll with the Pals.
My point was that you don't strike me as the objective type.
I tend to communicate better with such persons that's all.
Look, lets not play games here....I know the Zionist thing is your shtick.
No need to mince words right?
It's cool with me if you wanna roll with the Zionists.
My point is, you don't strike me as the objective type.
I tend to communicate better with such persons that's all.
Mirror, mirror? Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
Okay. If you say so, sure.
After all it's so obvious from my posts that I have chosen a side isn't it?
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 2:29 AM
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It's more obvious than you might think.
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The Kurgan 
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9/18/2009 3:08 AM
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Also, if I was Israel, I would become a signatory to the IAEA and the NPT. I would declare all nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction. I would allow outside inspections to their nuclear and other weapons facilities...
There's loads of different approaches Israel could take towards their perceived enemies...why stick with one that never works, and turns the international community against Israel for their gross treatment and terror delivered to palis, lebanese, Syrians, etc?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again that didn't work in the first place. Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
I know you mean well, but, Your Feelings and what you would do are immaterial. Isreal is a force to be reckoned with. They are here to stay. They do not give a rats ass, what the world/UN feels/says. They are not just going to "Go Away"
By the way, your Avatar needs a Burkha. Can't wait for Islamic fascism to become mainstream.(NOT) |
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~*Spiral Light*~
User ID: 200257
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9/18/2009 3:17 AM
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Also, if I was Israel, I would become a signatory to the IAEA and the NPT. I would declare all nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction. I would allow outside inspections to their nuclear and other weapons facilities...
There's loads of different approaches Israel could take towards their perceived enemies...why stick with one that never works, and turns the international community against Israel for their gross treatment and terror delivered to palis, lebanese, Syrians, etc?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again that didn't work in the first place.
I know you mean well, but, Your Feelings and what you would do are immaterial. Isreal is a force to be reckoned with. They are here to stay. They do not give a rats ass, what the world/UN feels/says. They are not just going to "Go Away"
By the way, your Avatar needs a Burkha. Can't wait for Islamic fascism to become mainstream.(NOT) Quoting: The Kurgan
No one officially has asked that Israel "go away". We all know Israel is a force to be reckoned with, as is Iran, and any other developing nation, and they, as well as Israel, all have a right not to be threatened. Maybe they should give a rats ass what the world thinks. |
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The Kurgan
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9/18/2009 3:27 AM
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WHY,,, should they give a rats ass??? It serves no purpose. I am not for or against them. Just stating facts.
Now, where is that burkha? |
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The Kurgan
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9/18/2009 3:27 AM
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WHY,,, should they give a rats ass??? It serves no purpose. I am not for or against them. Just stating facts.
Now, where is that burkha?
ooops double post
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 3:30 AM
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What Burka? I am not Muslim, I am a Canadian woman from German/English descent. |
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~*Spiral Light*~
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9/18/2009 3:34 AM
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WHY,,, should they give a rats ass??? It serves no purpose. I am not for or against them. Just stating facts.
Now, where is that burkha?
ooops double post Quoting: The Kurgan
I do believe Israel give's a rats ass. Look at the propaganda spewing forth from Israel, serving their own purposes. (The Zionist criminals) They're out in full force, trying to persuade the world that what they did in Gaza was self defense.
They are working overtime attempting to convince the world of their innocence. (The Zionist criminals)
I believe Israel is setting itself up to the the last man standing, in the aftermath of a global confrontation, in which they are, and will be the aggressors. |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/18/2009 3:46 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
well ever seen israel blowing up people with people? This is why israel have to defense themselve because they very tiny people surround by alot hater.... Quoting: 34
Only poor people do that. Rich people have tanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 773764
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9/18/2009 3:46 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
Also, if I was Israel, I would become a signatory to the IAEA and the NPT. I would declare all nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction. I would allow outside inspections to their nuclear and other weapons facilities...
There's loads of different approaches Israel could take towards their perceived enemies...why stick with one that never works, and turns the international community against Israel for their gross treatment and terror delivered to palis, lebanese, Syrians, etc?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again that didn't work in the first place.
I know you mean well, but, Your Feelings and what you would do are immaterial. Isreal is a force to be reckoned with. They are here to stay. They do not give a rats ass, what the world/UN feels/says. They are not just going to "Go Away"
By the way, your Avatar needs a Burkha. Can't wait for Islamic fascism to become mainstream.(NOT) Quoting: The Kurgan
well .talk about been a racist.. you must be one of they zionist pimps. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 757124
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9/18/2009 3:47 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
no matter, how would you feel if cockroach with bomb scarp on their's back blowing up your kitchen very day?
I would immediately end the illegal occupation. I would accept a two-state solution. I would dismantle all illegal settlements on Palestinian land. Go back to 1948 borders. I would destroy the "wall" of hate between palis and Israel. and I would stop threatening Iran. That's just for starters. Quoting: ~*Spiral Light*~
I'd also stop bulldozing poor peoples homes, burning their crops, shooting their children, and building walls around them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 757124
United States
9/18/2009 3:53 AM | | Re: Netanyahu to Russia: Reject Goldstone Gaza report | Quote |
no matter, how would you feel if cockroach with bomb scarp on their's back blowing up your kitchen very day?
I would immediately end the illegal occupation. I would accept a two-state solution. I would dismantle all illegal settlements on Palestinian land. Go back to 1948 borders. I would destroy the "wall" of hate between palis and Israel. and I would stop threatening Iran. That's just for starters.
I'd also stop bulldozing poor peoples homes, burning their crops, shooting their children, and building walls around them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757124
That's if I was Israel. If I was Pal I'd quit killing innocent people. Both sides are in the wrong and need to calm the fuck down. |
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