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Czar Sunstein: OBAMA, NOT COURTS, SHOULD INTERPRET LAW. "Beliefs and commitments of nation's leader should supercede judges."
Seems reasonable, wouldn't you say? IF YOU'RE INSANE! But hey, haven't we all gone crazy by now, I mean, Obama is killing the Constitution and America, the Czars are ignoring it, so what the Hell, and a lot of Americans were crazy enough to put Obama in office. So, I guess if Obama says you need to be executed for an offense he deemed worthy, you'd just have to get executed because his ideas are above the judges and the courts if this Czar has his way. So, it helps to be crazy these days. That way when you get screwed over by our dear leader, you won't realize what's happpening to you, sort of works out for a lot of Americans. We are now, officially, a pitiful nation.

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La Di Da. Like the way this administration is going much? You know, he never really proved he is eligible to even be President. Won't it be a scream, just think about this, if he is actually found to have been ineligible, and we went through all we've been through so far, and then all we're going to have to go through for however long he's "acting" as the President. La Di Da. What a country!

Maybe we could prevent a lot of future turmoil and problems in the world and our country if we pursued this further and en-masse. It wouldn't hurt to have proof if he's eligible and it may have a tremendous impact on just how harsh the history that is being made right now will be on us. Obama has demonstrated that he clearly has no clue as to how to run the country except to kill capitalism, the Constitution, our rights, our wealth, our safety and our future. In other words, we may have the opportunity to affect history, and stop some of our suffering under this regime, if we joined in and got behind this effort, we have nothing to lose by demanding proof.

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Seems reasonable, wouldn't you say? IF YOU'RE INSANE! But hey, haven't we all gone crazy by now, I mean, Obama is killing the Constitution and America, the Czars are ignoring it, so what the Hell, and a lot of Americans were crazy enough to put Obama in office. So, I guess if Obama says you need to be executed for an offense he deemed worthy, you'd just have to get executed because his ideas are above the judges and the courts if this Czar has his way. So, it helps to be crazy these days. That way when you get screwed over by our dear leader, you won't realize what's happpening to you, sort of works out for a lot of Americans. We are now, officially, a pitiful nation.

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READ , DANIEL 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

It is time to repent and get your soul ready to meet GOD, the time is very short, please don't delay.
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And this surprises you?

I bet it doesn't surprise PACNWguy.
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Seems reasonable, wouldn't you say? IF YOU'RE INSANE! But hey, haven't we all gone crazy by now, I mean, Obama is killing the Constitution and America, the Czars are ignoring it, so what the Hell, and a lot of Americans were crazy enough to put Obama in office. So, I guess if Obama says you need to be executed for an offense he deemed worthy, you'd just have to get executed because his ideas are above the judges and the courts if this Czar has his way. So, it helps to be crazy these days. That way when you get screwed over by our dear leader, you won't realize what's happpening to you, sort of works out for a lot of Americans. We are now, officially, a pitiful nation.

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Sunstein IS CERTIFIABLY INSANE!!!!!

The SCOTUS has the Constitutionally-appointed power to interpret the Law.

The POTUS does none of that.

Sunstein is a NUT JOB!!!! A WHACK JOB!!!!
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wait, there's more.
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"There is no reason to believe that in the face of statutory ambiguity, the meaning of federal law should be settled by the inclinations and predispositions of federal judges. The outcome should instead depend on the commitments and beliefs of:

a. the President and

b. those who operate under him," argued Sunstein.

___________________________________________

this guy is hilarious.
he wants to interpret "ambiguity".

now, i wonder who determines
if and when there are "ambiguities"????

this guy is a czar??
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And this surprises you?

I bet it doesn't surprise PACNWguy.
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No, I admit, it doesn't surprise me. But sometimes you have to put something so incredible out for examination. Sort of like a clinical study, to ask people, do you just sit and not object to the incrementalism? Or, do you see the direction we're headed and say, this is so wrong that it requires even more involvement to stop it. Otherwise, it is tacit acceptance of it. That is what this present regime is counting on, and I , for one, am not one of the Bozos on that bus.

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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked
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Sunstein IS CERTIFIABLY INSANE!!!!!

The SCOTUS has the Constitutionally-appointed power to interpret the Law.

The POTUS does none of that.

Sunstein is a NUT JOB!!!! A WHACK JOB!!!!
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Isn't this the same guy that believes animals should have legal representation and the ability to file litigation? How did he get a job in the administration? I thought people like this were committed to the funny farm, not elevated to high office.

Methinks someone forgot to take their meds
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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked
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And more, everyday that this Narcissitic Tyrant is in office. God sees the Evil and waits, we don't know His time table but He will act to stop it, of that I'm sure. There is a lesson in this for us, and I believe we must demonstrate that we have learned it before we can see this Evil removed from our midst.
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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked
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Wow, that's being way too generous!!

Can someone please change the channel from this Twilight Zone we're experiencing?

WTF?!?!? Where does this "Czar" think they're living?

Please tell me this is a joke, please tell me that someone in BoBo's Czar cabinet was not STUPID enough to state this publicly. I think SCOTUS needs to take a stroll over to the West Wing with a copy of the Constitution and demand that they read what they pledged to uphold and defend.
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Sunstein IS CERTIFIABLY INSANE!!!!!

The SCOTUS has the Constitutionally-appointed power to interpret the Law.

The POTUS does none of that.

Sunstein is a NUT JOB!!!! A WHACK JOB!!!!

Isn't this the same guy that believes animals should have legal representation and the ability to file litigation? How did he get a job in the administration? I thought people like this were committed to the funny farm, not elevated to high office.

Methinks someone forgot to take their meds
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Quite an entertaining video if you can stomach watching these fruitcakes.

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Cass Sunstein starts talking at 39:00.
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wait, there's more.
____________________________________________

"There is no reason to believe that in the face of statutory ambiguity, the meaning of federal law should be settled by the inclinations and predispositions of federal judges. The outcome should instead depend on the commitments and beliefs of:

a. the President and

b. those who operate under him," argued Sunstein.

___________________________________________

this guy is hilarious.
he wants to interpret "ambiguity".

now, i wonder who determines
if and when there are "ambiguities"????

this guy is a czar??
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Yes, we pay his salary and yet he is accountable to no one. Some of these Czars will oversee BILLIONS of our tax money, too.

Well, why shouldn't he think this? Obama by-passed Congressional confirmation process totally by creating his little army of Czars who answer only to him and no one else, certainly not those paying their salaries.

Obama is above the law or he wouldn't have been allowed to appoint fifty people who are not vetted by nor do they answer to congress. Yet they will determine how billions are spent from the stimulus deal.

Same as Obama writing health care plan that won't take effect until after the next presidential eleciton. Isn't that just a bit obvious that he wants re-elected BEFORE the voters see what he has done?
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No problem with that!

I mean, when you have The One, who needs that silly "Constitution of the United States"?
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked


Wow, that's being way too generous!!

Can someone please change the channel from this Twilight Zone we're experiencing?

WTF?!?!? Where does this "Czar" think they're living?

Please tell me this is a joke, please tell me that someone in BoBo's Czar cabinet was not STUPID enough to state this publicly. I think SCOTUS needs to take a stroll over to the West Wing with a copy of the Constitution and demand that they read what they pledged to uphold and defend.
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Couple this with Pelosi's recent press conference statements saying how all this free speech spoken so forcefully might incite some violent acts and that we should be afraid of it. And all the bizarre statements of the Left's leadership. You're IN the Twilight Zone, think about how you're going to get out of it, this is not a 30 minute episode, unfortunately, we have serious issues to deal with. It is up to us, to provide the sanity, the insane are in control now, straight jackets should be contemplated and heavy medication. If we don't do it to them , they'll be doing it to us pretty soon, and then you'll be stuck in the Zone with no way out. DO DE Doo Doo, DO DE Doo Doo..... damned monster scream scared pennywise
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As I used to respond when Dubyah Bush pulled the same shit, this is The Fuhrer Principle espoused by Hitler in Nazi Germany. The Ruler has the right to make the laws.

per wikipedia:

The Führerprinzip, German for "leader principle" prescribes a system with a hierarchy of leaders that resembles a military structure. This principle was applied to civil society at large in National Socialist Germany.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Unfortunately, this is not Nazi Germany. This is a Constitutional Republic and our Constitution says the Legislative branch shall make the laws and the Judicial branch shall enforce and interpret them. The Executive branch does neither.
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Dear God what have we wrought?

This will not end well.
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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Seems reasonable, wouldn't you say? IF YOU'RE INSANE! But hey, haven't we all gone crazy by now, I mean, Obama is killing the Constitution and America, the Czars are ignoring it, so what the Hell, and a lot of Americans were crazy enough to put Obama in office. So, I guess if Obama says you need to be executed for an offense he deemed worthy, you'd just have to get executed because his ideas are above the judges and the courts if this Czar has his way. So, it helps to be crazy these days. That way when you get screwed over by our dear leader, you won't realize what's happpening to you, sort of works out for a lot of Americans. We are now, officially, a pitiful nation.

[link to www.wnd.com]



Sunstein IS CERTIFIABLY INSANE!!!!!

The SCOTUS has the Constitutionally-appointed power to interpret the Law.

The POTUS does none of that.

Sunstein is a NUT JOB!!!! A WHACK JOB!!!!
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WHERE IS GLEN BECK WHEN YOU NEED HIM? 5a
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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked


Wow, that's being way too generous!!

Can someone please change the channel from this Twilight Zone we're experiencing?

WTF?!?!? Where does this "Czar" think they're living?

Please tell me this is a joke, please tell me that someone in BoBo's Czar cabinet was not STUPID enough to state this publicly. I think SCOTUS needs to take a stroll over to the West Wing with a copy of the Constitution and demand that they read what they pledged to uphold and defend.



^^^^^^^^^^^^

Couple this with Pelosi's recent press conference statements saying how all this free speech spoken so forcefully might incite some violent acts and that we should be afraid of it. And all the bizarre statements of the Left's leadership.

You're IN the Twilight Zone, think about how you're going to get out of it, this is not a 30 minute episode, unfortunately, we have serious issues to deal with.

It is up to us, to provide the sanity, the insane are in control now, straight jackets should be contemplated and heavy medication. If we don't do it to them , they'll be doing it to us pretty soon, and then you'll be stuck in the Zone with no way out. DO DE Doo Doo,
 Quoting: DoUCDem2?



Right now, this master chess game is getting way too out of control. The hype from the left and right are pushing to the same goal. Caution is needed.

What can we do to regain control without the pendulum swinging too far to the right? We need moderation.

This destruction has been a long time in coming with many years of planning and we cannot just hastily act. "Penny-wise/pound foolish".

Our first order of business is to limit the power this current administration and Congress has seized. Need to think of steps to regain control and we need to do it quickly. Input from others who don't limit themselves to left/right thinking but think rather as Americans.
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The opposition to Obama's plans for us grows increasingly frustrated, yet Obama and his Czars show no sign of changing course. It is going to be an interesting winter, Obama's eligiblity trial is January 26, 2010. What will happen before then, even a wounded sparrow fights desperately when threatened. What will happen to try to derail the trial, he has no defense except to produce the evidence, if he can't, then what?

It is no suprise that his Czars are Unconstitutional, speak of Unconstitutional things, maybe this whole Obama thing is Unconstitutional, maybe we will actually find that out. At least you can say, you lived in the most extraordinary of times.
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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked


Wow, that's being way too generous!!

Can someone please change the channel from this Twilight Zone we're experiencing?

WTF?!?!? Where does this "Czar" think they're living?

Please tell me this is a joke, please tell me that someone in BoBo's Czar cabinet was not STUPID enough to state this publicly. I think SCOTUS needs to take a stroll over to the West Wing with a copy of the Constitution and demand that they read what they pledged to uphold and defend.



^^^^^^^^^^^^

Couple this with Pelosi's recent press conference statements saying how all this free speech spoken so forcefully might incite some violent acts and that we should be afraid of it. And all the bizarre statements of the Left's leadership.

You're IN the Twilight Zone, think about how you're going to get out of it, this is not a 30 minute episode, unfortunately, we have serious issues to deal with.

It is up to us, to provide the sanity, the insane are in control now, straight jackets should be contemplated and heavy medication. If we don't do it to them , they'll be doing it to us pretty soon, and then you'll be stuck in the Zone with no way out. DO DE Doo Doo,


Right now, this master chess game is getting way too out of control. The hype from the left and right are pushing to the same goal. Caution is needed.

What can we do to regain control without the pendulum swinging too far to the right? We need moderation.

This destruction has been a long time in coming with many years of planning and we cannot just hastily act. "Penny-wise/pound foolish".

Our first order of business is to limit the power this current administration and Congress has seized. Need to think of steps to regain control and we need to do it quickly. Input from others who don't limit themselves to left/right thinking but think rather as Americans.
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No question that Bush and his daddy are a part of the planning and facilitating of what we have now. Clinton, and his wife, Hillary representing the State Dept. called the acting President of Honduras and said they should bring back the previous President who, like Chavez of Venezula, wanted to go against their Constitution and become leader in perpetuity, in other words, dictator for life. The Leftist Hillary Clinton wanted that to happen, so right now we have more to fear from the Left than the Right, so, I only say that we should not tolerate moves from either side which are aimed at stripping our sovereignty and Constitutional rights. At this point, there are precious few worth saving from either party, corruption is rampant among them. If somehow, we could get a group of Independent Counsels, not phonies, to represent the people and investigate and prosecute as many as possible we could save our country. The will of the people is there now unlike any time since the Revolution, mass demonstrations could have some chance and a lot of working behind the scenes could work. No one thought the tea pary effort would go as far as it did, it shows what is possible, we can go farther.
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He was confirmed by Congress..I wrote my senator and he said he voted against him. I often wonder how the confirmations work. Perhaps, once the confirming votes are obtained, the mob which controls D.C. gives him an order on how he is to vote on something else. He is then allowed to vote as his constituents actually want him to. This privilege is spread out among the so-called "statesmen" perpetuating the illusion of independent votes.
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we are soooooo soooooo very fucked
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Avian, still a fan even though you called my post dumb.
And you're again, 100% correct.
What does surprise me is that Obama and Czars haven't just come right out and said: "Yo, We're takin' this bitch over straight up".
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No question that Bush and his daddy are a part of the planning and facilitating of what we have now. Clinton, and his wife, Hillary representing the State Dept. called the acting President of Honduras and said they should bring back the previous President who, like Chavez of Venezula, wanted to go against their Constitution and become leader in perpetuity, in other words, dictator for life.

The Leftist Hillary Clinton wanted that to happen, so right now we have more to fear from the Left than the Right, so, I only say that we should not tolerate moves from either side which are aimed at stripping our sovereignty and Constitutional rights. At this point, there are precious few worth saving from either party, corruption is rampant among them.

If somehow, we could get a group of Independent Counsels, not phonies, to represent the people and investigate and prosecute as many as possible we could save our country. The will of the people is there now unlike any time since the Revolution, mass demonstrations could have some chance and a lot of working behind the scenes could work.

No one thought the tea pary effort would go as far as it did, it shows what is possible, we can go farther.
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It would be great if the start of the downfall only started with Bush I, there wouldn't be as much to rectify. As I have seen in your other posts on other threads, you are aware of how far back this game has been in the making, much further than just Bush.

How to get people to stop blaming Democrats/Republicans, throw the labels away and let's square our shoulders back and get to work.

For as much as the Tea Parties are mocked by the left, they have had an effect, else the mocking would not be as intense. Perhaps the politicians and bankers are also awakening to the fact that the populace is now aware of their misdeeds.

Independent Counsels, what type of vetting, answerable to whom? These are the queries the citizens need to formulate. BTW, thanks for the responses.
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The pictures are correct, but the wording is wrong, it should say Emperor/Caesar not just an everyday dictator. He will demand worship not merely obedience.
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You can say that again
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The pictures are correct, but the wording is wrong, it should say Emperor/Caesar not just an everyday dictator. He will demand worship not merely obedience.
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BINGO!
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Your rights, and freedoms are not derived from the constitution.

The constitution, and bill of rights merely lists the freedoms and rights that are endowed to you by your creator.

People say ' constitutional rights ' but that is misleading.

They are your 'rights'. the constitution document merely lists what those rights are, it does not grant you them.

You have those rights already, with or without the constitution.
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the next one who needs to go
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Re: Czar Sunstein: OBAMA, NOT COURTS, SHOULD INTERPRET LAW. "Beliefs and commitments of nation's leader should supercede judges."
Your rights, and freedoms are not derived from the constitution.

The constitution, and bill of rights merely lists the freedoms and rights that are endowed to you by your creator.

People say ' constitutional rights ' but that is misleading.

They are your 'rights'. the constitution document merely lists what those rights are, it does not grant you them.

You have those rights already, with or without the constitution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061


Very well stated. Bravo.

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