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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 9:37 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
A shepherd will search and search and search. But if the one he is searching for continues to evade? what is the searcher to do......search aud infinitum? kinda defeats YHVHS plan......or do you reject HIS plan? Quoting: ruotsher
Read what Jesus said about it:
If any of you has a hundred sheep, and one of them gets lost, what will you do? Won't you leave the ninety-nine in the field and go look for the lost sheep until you find it? And when you find it, you will be so glad that you will put it on your shoulder and carry it home. Then you will call in your friends and neighbors and say, "Let's celebrate! I've found my lost sheep." (Luke 15:4-6)
Jesus's mission was to seek and save the lost. Did He succeed or not? He says He did. He says that if one of His sheep gets lost, He will look for it "until He finds it".
Do you really think a sheep can evade a Shepherd that knows everything about the sheep, even how many hairs are upon that sheep's head?
If even one sheep is missing, Jesus cannot do this:
God himself was pleased to live fully in his Son. And God was pleased for him to make peace by sacrificing his blood on the cross, so that all beings in heaven and on earth would be brought back to God. (Colossians 1:19-20)
If Jesus succeeded, then He saved everybody. And everything, because Jesus owns everything.
Everything was created by him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for him. (Colossians 1:16) |
| ruotsher
User ID: 771188
10/8/2009 9:54 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
A shepherd will search and search and search. But if the one he is searching for continues to evade? what is the searcher to do......search aud infinitum? kinda defeats YHVHS plan......or do you reject HIS plan?
Read what Jesus said about it:
If any of you has a hundred sheep, and one of them gets lost, what will you do? Won't you leave the ninety-nine in the field and go look for the lost sheep until you find it? And when you find it, you will be so glad that you will put it on your shoulder and carry it home. Then you will call in your friends and neighbors and say, "Let's celebrate! I've found my lost sheep." (Luke 15:4-6)
Jesus's mission was to seek and save the lost. Did He succeed or not? He says He did. He says that if one of His sheep gets lost, He will look for it "until He finds it".
Do you really think a sheep can evade a Shepherd that knows everything about the sheep, even how many hairs are upon that sheep's head?
If even one sheep is missing, Jesus cannot do this:
God himself was pleased to live fully in his Son. And God was pleased for him to make peace by sacrificing his blood on the cross, so that all beings in heaven and on earth would be brought back to God. (Colossians 1:19-20)
If Jesus succeeded, then He saved everybody. And everything, because Jesus owns everything.
Everything was created by him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for him. (Colossians 1:16) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
what is your interpretation and belief?
let me rephrase to this question: why did Jesus have to die? why on the cross? why the humiliation? why, when the spear was thrust into his side, instead of blood coming out there was water?
Last Edited by ruotsher on 10/8/2009 at 9:59 PM |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/8/2009 9:59 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
what is your interpretation and belief? Quoting: ruotsher
Jesus came to seek and save the lost. Jesus succeeded in His mission. Jesus made everything, and owns everything. |
| ruotsher
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10/8/2009 10:00 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
what is your interpretation and belief?
Jesus came to seek and save the lost. Jesus succeeded in His mission. Jesus made everything, and owns everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
bump to see mhy edited post above. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 786155
10/8/2009 10:03 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
what is your interpretation and belief?
Jesus came to seek and save the lost. Jesus succeeded in His mission. Jesus made everything, and owns everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
...choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
God clearly gave us a choice; He is a gentleman.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Both intelligent life forms created by God, his ministers and his heirs, angels and people, were given free choice of the will. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 10:17 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Are we saying that God is unfair? Certainly not! The Lord told Moses that he has pity and mercy on anyone he wants to. Everything then depends on God's mercy and not on what people want or do. (Romans 9:14-16) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 10:19 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Read this, and decide for yourself what Jesus's mission was, and whether He succeeded.
God did not send his Son into the world to condemn its people. He sent him to save them! (John 3:17) |
| Preacher Bob
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10/8/2009 10:55 PM
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Jesus' qualities included stealing, destruction, disobedience to law, yet he kept forgiving himself instead of asking God. He does pray to God, but mostly for either revenge or forgiveness. Polar extremes, imo, when he's taking things and such without any thought about it whatsoever.
So, why didn't he consult more or at least ask god. Quoting: bed
You need to ask yourself these questions.
1- Where did you get your information on his qualities?
2- Dan Brown's book is a work of FICTION. The Last Temptation of Christ, Another work of Fiction.
3- What verse do you base your assumptions on?
The reason I ask is The things you list above are sins.
If Jesus sinned then he would not be able to die in our place he would be like the rest of us and have to pay his own debt.
Jesus lived a sin free life.
God's laws trump mans law. In Germany during WWII the law said Jews have to be SENT to a Concentration Camp, and so by your way of thinking then if you disobeyed mans laws then you sinned, so by not going to the Gas Chamber you are SINNING?
Should think about that.
I would like examples of what you are saying, where do you draw your conclusions from?
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 787479
10/8/2009 10:59 PM
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Read this, and decide for yourself what Jesus's mission was, and whether He succeeded.
God did not send his Son into the world to condemn its people. He sent him to save them! (John 3:17) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
We are under a DEATH sentence RIGHT NOW, if nothing is done we are going to HELL.
Jesus mission was to Save us.
But you can REJECT HIM AND KEEP YOUR FIRST ARRANGEMENT.
It is YOUR CHOICE.
God love you wants you to get out of the Pig pen.
But if you demand to stay, then oh well your choice.
Left to our own we would destroy this planet, and turn it into hell.
But everyone thinks they will run the show in hell, just like they think they can run it here.
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 11:02 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
what is your interpretation and belief?
Jesus came to seek and save the lost. Jesus succeeded in His mission. Jesus made everything, and owns everything.
...choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
God clearly gave us a choice; He is a gentleman.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Both intelligent life forms created by God, his ministers and his heirs, angels and people, were given free choice of the will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 786155
You quoted from the old testament to say that God gave us a choice. You should know that the new testament is different from the old testament. In the new testament, who does the choosing?
If the Lord doesn't make the time shorter, no one will be left alive. But because of his chosen and special ones, he will make the time shorter. (Mark 13:20)
Jesus told his disciples, "I chose all twelve of you, but one of you is a demon!" (John 6:70)
I am not talking about all of you. I know the ones I have chosen. But what the Scriptures say must come true. And they say, "The man who ate with me has turned against me!" (John 13:18)
You did not choose me. I chose you and sent you out to produce fruit, the kind of fruit that will last. Then my Father will give you whatever you ask for in my name. So I command you to love each other. (John 15:16-17)
If you belonged to the world, its people would love you. But you don't belong to the world. I have chosen you to leave the world behind, and that is why its people hate you. (John 15:19)
Theophilus, I first wrote to you about all that Jesus did and taught from the very first until he was taken up to heaven. But before he was taken up, he gave orders to the apostles he had chosen with the help of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 1:1-2)
The Lord said to Ananias, "Go! I have chosen him to tell foreigners, kings, and the people of Israel about me. I will show him how much he must suffer for worshiping in my name." (Acts 9:15-16)
Then Ananias told me, "The God that our ancestors worshiped has chosen you to know what he wants done. He has chosen you to see the One Who Obeys God and to hear his voice. (Acts 22:14)
My dear friends, remember what you were when God chose you. The people of this world didn't think that many of you were wise. Only a few of you were in places of power, and not many of you came from important families. But God chose the foolish things of this world to put the wise to shame. He chose the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame.
What the world thinks is worthless, useless, and nothing at all is what God has used to destroy what the world considers important. God did all this to keep anyone from bragging to him. You are God's children. He sent Christ Jesus to save us and to make us wise, acceptable, and holy. So if you want to brag, do what the Scriptures say and brag about the Lord. (1 Corinthians 1:26-31) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 11:12 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Read this, and decide for yourself what Jesus's mission was, and whether He succeeded.
God did not send his Son into the world to condemn its people. He sent him to save them! (John 3:17)
We are under a DEATH sentence RIGHT NOW, if nothing is done we are going to HELL.
Jesus mission was to Save us.
But you can REJECT HIM AND KEEP YOUR FIRST ARRANGEMENT.
It is YOUR CHOICE. Quoting: Preacher Bob
Or to put it a more biblical way, it is God's choice.
Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ for the spiritual blessings that Christ has brought us from heaven! Before the world was created, God had Christ choose us to live with him and to be his holy and innocent and loving people. God was kind and decided that Christ would choose us to be God's own adopted children. God was very kind to us because of the Son he dearly loves, and so we should praise God. Christ sacrificed his life's blood to set us free, which means that our sins are now forgiven. Christ did this because God was so kind to us. God has great wisdom and understanding, and by what Christ has done, God has shown us his own mysterious ways. Then when the time is right, God will do all that he has planned, and Christ will bring together everything in heaven and on earth.
God always does what he plans, and that's why he appointed Christ to choose us. He did this so that we Jews would bring honor to him and be the first ones to have hope because of him. Christ also brought you the truth, which is the good news about how you can be saved. You put your faith in Christ and were given the promised Holy Spirit to show that you belong to God. The Spirit also makes us sure that we will be given what God has stored up for his people. Then we will be set free, and God will be honored and praised. (Ephesians 1:3-14)
But God was merciful! We were dead because of our sins, but God loved us so much that he made us alive with Christ, and God's wonderful kindness is what saves you. God raised us from death to life with Christ Jesus, and he has given us a place beside Christ in heaven. God did this so that in the future world he could show how truly good and kind he is to us because of what Christ Jesus has done. You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better than we deserve. This is God's gift to you, and not anything you have done on your own. It isn't something you have earned, so there is nothing you can brag about. God planned for us to do good things and to live as he has always wanted us to live. That's why he sent Christ to make us what we are. (Ephesians 2:4-10) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 786155
10/8/2009 11:24 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Firstly, the translation you use is not inerrant; in fact, quite the opposite.
Secondly, look into (in a KJV) the concept of willingly receiving Christ, versus rejecting Him.
John 6:21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 11:27 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Firstly, the translation you use is not inerrant; in fact, quite the opposite.
Secondly, look into (in a KJV) the concept of willingly receiving Christ, versus rejecting Him.
John 6:21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 786155
Why not check those verses in whichever translation you want, and see if it is God who chooses? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/8/2009 11:35 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Here it is in KJV. Surely you can't argue with the KJV.
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. (Ephesians 1:4-6)
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (Ephesians 1:11) |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/8/2009 11:40 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. |
| Preacher Bob
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10/8/2009 11:40 PM
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Or to put it a more biblical way, it is God's choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
You find what you want, believe what you like, but it is OUR choice. If it were God's choice then we have no part in it.
He does not want ANY to perish, but waits till the very end, and cuts our days short or NO ONE would be left alive.
(ASV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(GNB) The Lord is not slow to do what he has promised, as some think. Instead, he is patient with you, because he does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants all to turn away from their sins.
(GW) The Lord isn't slow to do what he promised, as some people think. Rather, he is patient for your sake. He doesn't want to destroy anyone but wants all people to have an opportunity to turn to him and change the way they think and act. Quoting:
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/9/2009 12:06 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Or to put it a more biblical way, it is God's choice.
You find what you want, believe what you like, but it is OUR choice. If it were God's choice then we have no part in it.
He does not want ANY to perish, but waits till the very end, and cuts our days short or NO ONE would be left alive. Quoting: Preacher Bob
Of course we have a part in it, He chose us. We are his adopted children, by His choice. Many people want to believe that you have to decide to follow God. But even in the KJV, it clearly says that it is God who chooses.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. (Romans 9:15-16)
And it clearly says that God chose us before the world was even created. The whole thing was planned.
Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
The big churches are essentially teaching people that the clay gets to decide what the potter makes out of that clay. The bible says different.
Romans 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Read about the wheat and the tares. Does the tares decide to turn into wheat? Does naughty wheat turn into tares? Or are wheat and tares both decided by what seed they sprouted from?
Read about the sheep and the goats. Can a goat turn into a sheep if it really wants to? |
| Preacher Bob
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10/9/2009 12:16 AM
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Read about the sheep and the goats. Can a goat turn into a sheep if it really wants to? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
No but God offers Salvation, IE to turn Goats to Sheep if we accept it.
We Don't Seek God.
But we do have to respond to his call.
So while you are right it is not the end of the story.
Too often people want to ONLY SEE one side.
Same is true with Grace and Judgment.
While I have Preached about Judgment, it is only to balance the Grace already known.
I never said Grace was gone. I only said if you reject it you have Judgment left, not a free ride.
The last part was for the others who know who they are.
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789591
10/9/2009 4:05 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Read about the sheep and the goats. Can a goat turn into a sheep if it really wants to?
No but God offers Salvation, IE to turn Goats to Sheep if we accept it. Quoting: Preacher Bob
"Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners." This saying is true, and it can be trusted. I was the worst sinner of all! (1 Timothy 1:15)
Jesus came to save sinners, not to merely offer salvation. Jesus said that He completed His mission. Is there anybody who doubts what His mission was, or that He succeeded in it?
I have brought glory to you here on earth by doing everything you gave me to do. (John 17:4)
God wants everyone to be saved and to know the whole truth, which is, There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God. Jesus was truly human, and he gave himself to rescue all of us. (1 Timothy 2:4-5)
And you gave him power over all people, so that he would give eternal life to everyone you give him. Eternal life is to know you, the only true God, and to know Jesus Christ, the one you sent. (John 17:2-3)
Everything and everyone that the Father has given me will come to me, and I won't turn any of them away. I didn't come from heaven to do what I want! I came to do what the Father wants me to do. He sent me, and he wants to make certain that none of the ones he has given me will be lost. Instead, he wants me to raise them to life on the last day. My Father wants everyone who sees the Son to have faith in him and to have eternal life. Then I will raise them to life on the last day. (John 6:37-40) |
| Major
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10/9/2009 11:02 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
The voice of literal interpretation is the voice of the child.
How sad these babes in Christ study carnal interpretation and believe themselves to be knowledgable. How terribly, terribly sad. The rapture cult, Baptist/Methodist/ Seminary,Tarbell Sermon/Charles Stanley/Vernon McGee crowd of baby food regurgitators.
Then comes the extra-Biblical mixers whose ability to understand scripture is exactly the same..but these babies mix "lost teachings" then feed their "divine revelation" to people sickened by lost sheep of organized "Christianity".
..and the atheists come to laugh..never to know the supernatural power of the supernatural word. You can google carnal understanding..but you will have to be sealed with the mind of Christ to find profound life-giving understanding in a spiritual book written by a omniscient Spirit God.
Dear 789418,
It is so nice of you to add your thoughts and comments. They are profound and well thought out. I for one am so glad you are here so that I can glem some insights from you.
Boy, that sounds rather nasty doesn't it.
Ignore what I said!!! I will start over and be good.
You are 100% correct, if you were referring to me, YOU could have said MAJOR because it is my name, instead of calling me a baby Christian.
But that is OK too. A baby Christian is a good thing. I have 5 grandbabies and they are GOOD babies so you know what that means.........they took after ME!!!!
Now that was funny and you know it!!!!
No really, THANKS for the tune up. I am exactly what you said.
"The rapture cult, Baptist/Methodist/ Seminary,Tarbell Sermon/Charles Stanley/Vernon McGee crowd of baby food regurgitators."
It was Presbyterian though, not Methodist.
I'm not quite sure about the TARBELL thing, but all the rest, you got me. I am what I am and DAM proud of it my friend, and you can call me those things any time you want to.
Personally I also was insulted, then more insulted when the poster denied directing at me......oh well. till they come forth and are more direct, we'll not know what they're talkig about. Quoting: ruotsher
Dear ruotsher................
Luke 6:26
"Woe unto YOU (Us) when all men shall speak well of you. For so did their fathers to the false prophets".
Here Jesus is trying to inculcate a Godly spirit which is exactly the opposite of how we normally react to situations around us and to things said about us. The point He(Jesus) is making is one we all need to understand and it is that a person must be a Christian before he can exhibit Christian behavior.
Bless you! |
| Major
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10/9/2009 11:17 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How do you ask for a miracle?
Psalms 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
Psalms 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
Psalms 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 786155
The verses you used are from the Lord speaking. He is speaking to the one WHO HATH SET HIS LOVE UPON ME.
If you are asking for a miracle, and these are the verse you are using to get that, then you need to understand that when we run to Jesus when we are in trouble and need a miracle, we are in fact doing the opposite of these verse here.
We must be in CONSTENT fellowsip and we do that when we set our love on Him. When we take up residence in the house of God's fellowship, WHEN WE SET OUR LOVE ON HIM, THEN God makes these astounding promises.
Notice verse #1-2 of the same Psalms.
Notice as well verses 4-4. Consistant fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ, WHO IS THE SECRET PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH, will bring us to the deliverance FROM THE SNARE OF THE FOWLER (the Devil). |
| Major
User ID: 574846
10/9/2009 11:20 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
You won't have an answer for this question.
Why is it only documented that Jesus was at the temple with his mentors at age 12 and then bam! nothing about his life until he was 33?
Missing years here . . . . .
and your point is?
Matthew 3:13-14
He and Joseph and Mary went to Egypt.
I think they were trying to prove a point of deficiency in the Bible.
Still waiting on an answer from you OP.
There are scores of books written on the "Missing years of Jesus Christ" so the idea of that is quite the point.
No priest, nun or clergy has been able to answer that question from me. Not that I need it. Just exchanging thoughts . . . I have read enough and listened to enough to give me satisfaction from other sources. None of which is based on Biblical information.
I was not hurling insults. Just trying to stimulate a thought.
Already answered. YOu missed. I think it is on page 24 or 25. |
| Major
User ID: 574846
10/9/2009 11:22 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How do you ask for a miracle?
Anyone able to help? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789075
YES. It has been answered. Check page 24. |
| Major
User ID: 574846
10/9/2009 11:33 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
You won't have an answer for this question.
Why is it only documented that Jesus was at the temple with his mentors at age 12 and then bam! nothing about his life until he was 33?
Missing years here . . . . .
and your point is?
Matthew 3:13-14
He and Joseph and Mary went to Egypt.
Ooops. My memory is not what it used to be. I'm sorry.
It is Matthew 2:13-14.
Herod's death is recorded in deatail by Josephus (Antiq. xvii, 3.5). The flight to Egypt by the family of Jesus is reated by Matthew to the statement in Hosea 11:1 which refers historically to the deliverance of the Hebrews from Egypt. Matthew records that his was done that it MIGHT BE FULFILLED.
Since the Old Test. statement is not a direct reference to Christ, it is apparent that Matthew saw this prophecy as a TYPE of Christ (Example).
You can check the significance and reliability of Matt. quotations of Old Test. prophecies in the publication from...R.H. Gundry, "The Use of the Old Testament in St. Matthew's Gospel".
You know, I am just an old literal baby Christian, as one of our friends posted, But that is pretty good information, don't you think for me??? |
| MagiChristmas 
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
10/9/2009 11:35 AM
 | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
And why are they not chosen?
Firstly, the translation you use is not inerrant; in fact, quite the opposite.
Secondly, look into (in a KJV) the concept of willingly receiving Christ, versus rejecting Him.
John 6:21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went.
Why not check those verses in whichever translation you want, and see if it is God who chooses? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591
David A. Bednar, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
The word chosen in 1 Nephi 1:20 is central to understanding the concept of the Lord’s tender mercies. The dictionary indicates that chosen suggests one who is selected, taken by preference, or picked out. It also can be used to refer to the elect or chosen of God (Oxford English Dictionary Online, second ed. [1989], “Chosen”).
Some individuals who hear or read this message erroneously may discount or dismiss in their personal lives the availability of the tender mercies of the Lord, believing that “I certainly am not one who has been or ever will be chosen.” We may falsely think that such blessings and gifts are reserved for other people who appear to be more righteous or who serve in visible Church callings. I testify that the tender mercies of the Lord are available to all of us and that the Redeemer of Israel is eager to bestow such gifts upon us.
To be or to become chosen is not an exclusive status conferred upon us. Rather, you and I ultimately determine if we are chosen. Please now note the use of the word chosen in the following verses from the Doctrine and Covenants:
“Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?
“Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men” (D&C 121:34–35; emphasis added).
I believe the implication of these verses is quite straightforward. God does not have a list of favorites to which we must hope our names will someday be added. He does not limit “the chosen” to a restricted few. Rather, it is our hearts and our aspirations and our obedience which definitively determine whether we are counted as one of God’s chosen.
Enoch was instructed by the Lord on this very point of doctrine. Please note the use of the word choose in these verses:
“Behold these thy brethren; they are the workmanship of mine own hands, and I gave unto them their knowledge, in the day I created them; and in the Garden of Eden, gave I unto man his agency;
“And unto thy brethren have I said, and also given commandment, that they should love one another, and that they should choose me, their Father” (Moses 7:32–33; emphasis added).
As we learn in these scriptures, the fundamental purposes for the gift of agency were to love one another and to choose God. Thus we become God’s chosen and invite His tender mercies as we use our agency to choose God.
One of the most well-known and frequently cited passages of scripture is found in Moses 1:39. This verse clearly and concisely describes the work of the Eternal Father:
“For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man” (emphasis added).
A companion scripture found in the Doctrine and Covenants describes with equal clarity and conciseness our primary work as the sons and daughters of the Eternal Father. Interestingly, this verse does not seem to be as well known and is not quoted with great frequency.
“Behold, this is your work, to keep my commandments, yea, with all your might, mind and strength” (D&C 11:20; emphasis added).
Thus, the Father’s work is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of His children. Our work is to keep His commandments with all of our might, mind, and strength—and we thereby become chosen and, through the Holy Ghost, receive and recognize the tender mercies of the Lord in our daily lives. -David A. Bednar, “The Tender Mercies of the Lord,” Ensign, May. 2005 - [link to www.living-prophet.info]
This post WAS added to my Log of Direct Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
This talk is one of my favorite three given in this decade, as it also discusses "The Lord's Timing" = see the deception continues to crumble.
MC
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 790021
10/9/2009 11:42 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How do you ask for a miracle?
Psalms 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
Psalms 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
Psalms 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 786155
I really appreciate your reply, but I have no idea what this means or how to apply it? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 790021
10/9/2009 11:44 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How do you ask for a miracle?
Anyone able to help?
YES. It has been answered. Check page 24. Quoting: Major 574846
I just replied to the other post, I understand you were quoting bible verses, and appreciate your understanding of the bible, but to me, its translation is like speaking greek to japanese - would you mind explaining this to a brand new christian that is only days old? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 790021
10/9/2009 11:45 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
by the way, the A/C No has changed, but I was the one who asked the original question. |
| MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
10/9/2009 11:47 AM
| | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How do you ask for a miracle?
Psalms 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
Psalms 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
Psalms 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
I really appreciate your reply, but I have no idea what this means or how to apply it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 790021
Part Two of my Previous Post. 
"it is often, the Lord's timing" & SPAM
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
MC
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 790021
10/9/2009 12:04 PM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How do you ask for a miracle?
Psalms 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
Psalms 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
Psalms 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
I really appreciate your reply, but I have no idea what this means or how to apply it?
Part Two of my Previous Post. :pingu1::pingu1:
"it is often, the Lord's timing" & SPAM
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
MC
What does this mean? I clicked on that link and there was nothing to do with my original question.
PLEASE would you just give me a simple non theologian answer, not all of us are bible scholars. thankyou |
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