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| blakey
User ID: 759954 (OP)
9/19/2009 4:06 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
will be back later, need to take a break |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 774431
9/19/2009 4:09 AM
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to the elect Quoting: blakey 759954
But since this is not church should you not have mentioned that It is still there, it is the standard by which we will be judged, and apart from Christ we stand guilty?
And even with Christ, it is something of a guide, that is why we still have the old testament.
If we break a commandment, while we may be forgiven, the consequences we still may suffer, for example we fornicate and catch AIDS, while God forgives us and may allow us to enter heaven, Don't expect healing.
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 643612
9/19/2009 4:29 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Writing "G"od and "J"esus are a sign of respect as opposed to writing "gods" The word "gods" in the Bible refer to fallen angels who act out their own will and who do not represent God at all.
God has all authority in power and we show respect of Him when we capitalize His holy Name.
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That is perfectly fine if that is how you feel about it. You are supposed to follow your conscience on those kind of things. So, for you it is necessary. Quoting: blakey 759954
If you know the Bible well, then you also know they are capitalized, and for a reason. Do yourself a favor and hit the shift key for ALL names. It can only help your cause, which is in question, due to your lack of understanding WHY they are capitalized.
It is one of the most simple concepts, yet over your head it went. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774442
9/19/2009 4:30 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
to the elect
But since this is not church should you not have mentioned that It is still there, it is the standard by which we will be judged, and apart from Christ we stand guilty?
And even with Christ, it is something of a guide, that is why we still have the old testament.
If we break a commandment, while we may be forgiven, the consequences we still may suffer, for example we fornicate and catch AIDS, while God forgives us and may allow us to enter heaven, Don't expect healing. Quoting: Preacher Bob
Utter nonsense. gibberish. You need to be gone. evil person. |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 774431
9/19/2009 4:49 AM
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Utter nonsense. gibberish. You need to be gone. evil person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774442
Is it nonsense because you don't like it? It does not matter, you have a choice. I am glad you show disdain for me, it only serves to prove me.
11 In this new life one's nationality or race or education or social position is unimportant; such things mean nothing. Whether a person has Christ is what matters, and he is equally available to all.
12 Since you have been chosen by God who has given you this new kind of life, and because of his deep love and concern for you, you should practice tenderhearted mercy and kindness to others. Don't worry about making a good impression on them, but be ready to suffer quietly and patiently.
13 Be gentle and ready to forgive; never hold grudges. Remember, the Lord forgave you, so you must forgive others.
Col 3:11-13 (Living) Quoting: living
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 4:52 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
that is the classic question 'what about other people who were good etc' who did not hear about christ
several answeres. First, you are only responsible for YOU not others in that regard, and also god chooses who gets eternal life, we do not choose.
so if they never heard of christ, then they are likely not 'elect' which is the term for the people god chooses to save.
it is a hard question. the bible states that god does the choosing, and that no one no matter how good is able to save himself.
also, you might be interested to know that the bible (paul) states that we cannot really ask that question you are asking, IE why did god choose or not choose to save this or that person. Its only Gods perogative, not ours. and we are not supposed to dwell on who or why he chooses.
I understand the human normal concern you are raising. but there is your answere and its biblical and its not my answere. Quoting: Blakey 759954
thanks. yea a tough question indeed. i believe the bible is mostly true, definitely not just nonsense. though i feel (to myself, i know) that god will accept all who have tried to make a positive impact in the world.
in my opinion, ALL religions are correct. all that are positive of course. just about every single religion says that the soul of a man, lives his life, then returns to heaven. they are all generally similar. be it god, allah, buddha, they are all referring to the same person. the source of ALL that is.
the one thing that keeps me from conforming to a religion, is that they are right, and all others are wrong. they just do not accept difference. and that keeps us divided. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774491
9/19/2009 4:56 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
The Bible is a spiritual book that underlies it's literal rendering. It is a spiritual book written by a Spirit God and can only be wholly understood by those who are sealed with the mind of Christ.
If I say "the fig that fails to ripen shall surely fall in the winter winds of tribulation", what do I mean? |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 774431
9/19/2009 5:13 AM
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thanks. yea a tough question indeed. i believe the bible is mostly true, definitely not just nonsense. though i feel (to myself, i know) that god will accept all who have tried to make a positive impact in the world. Quoting: Energy
That is what Satan wants you to believe. If you are driving down the road and you make one mistake doesn't matter what it is, your choice. You make it. you didn't put brake fluid in your car. and so when you go to stop you can't and you kill someone.
Does it matter that you have paid your taxes?
Does it matter that you never killed anyone before?
Does it matter that you are a good person?
in my opinion, ALL religions are correct. all that are positive of course. just about every single religion says that the soul of a man, lives his life, then returns to heaven. they are all generally similar. be it god, allah, buddha, they are all referring to the same person. the source of ALL that is. Quoting: Energy
If they are all correct then they should all say the same thing.
They do not.
the one thing that keeps me from conforming to a religion, is that they are right, and all others are wrong. they just do not accept difference. and that keeps us divided. Quoting: Energy
Religion, is mans attempt to understand what God has given. No matter what message is sent there will be a false message to go with it.
Christ, and Christ alone, will set you free, If it is not true what have you lost?
If it is not true Why is it attacked all the time?
Since it is true there will always be False teachers and then people always want to point to the false teachers and then say see it is false, Duh...
If Charles Manson Claimed to be a Prophet does that make him one?
The bible speaks very clearly about testing who is from God.
Do not bank on something that is not there.
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774506
9/19/2009 5:18 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
here's a question for you OP, why is it that, at the beginning of the bible, from Genesis chapter 1:1 to Genesis chapter 2:3, it was God doing the creating.......until Genesis chapter 2:4 where LORD God clearly takes over?
Why the change from God to LORD God? |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 5:20 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Is it nonsense because you don't like it? It does not matter, you have a choice. I am glad you show disdain for me, it only serves to prove me.
11 In this new life one's nationality or race or education or social position is unimportant; such things mean nothing. Whether a person has Christ is what matters, and he is equally available to all. Quoting: Preacher Bob
i don't understand why you think god would condemn you to hell (for eternity), just for not accepting christ. don't you think god has a higher knowledge? he see's that we are all divided. do you think that he expects people to give up their national religion which they have been raised on, to accept christ, which is just 1 view of the thousands? oh but your religion is the right one, and all others are wrong. it is nonsense.
and he is equally available to all. Quoting: Preacher Bob
no, really, he is not. not everyone is born in a country where the national religion is christianity. other people, on other continents, have completely different surroundings and culture. they too believe in god (no matter what there name is for god, they are referring to the same entity as you. the one source for ALL that is) and that they will one day return to him/her. you think some evil god is going to say (just for example) "sorry. you who were compassionate caring and spread love throughout your whole life, probably deserve to be in heaven a little more than that guy who was greedy and selfish, but he accepted christ. now i know he had to accept christ because he was taught in a catholic school, and you lived in a completely different part of the world, and not once were you ever even taught about christ, but you must burn in hell, for ETERNITY."
this is crazy. forget what you have been told.. ask yourself, what do you 'feel'? do you 'feel' like god would do that to someone? |
| THERE
User ID: 58109
9/19/2009 5:21 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
God(100,000 years)Lord God |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 58109
9/19/2009 5:22 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
What if you found out Energy that God is Christ. And if you don't accept him, he understands that but he tried to say what the alternative was. He is all there is really. Everything else was a built illusion. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 764222
9/19/2009 5:30 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
Okay Skippy, here's one question for you, since you think you know so much :
What are the soul and the spirit, i.e., how are they similar and how are they different, and under what circumstances do they divide apart from one another, and what consequences does it have for a person when they do divide apart from one another (as described in Hebrews 4:12 : "The word of God is living and active and stronger than any two-edged sword, and cuts so deeply it divides the soul from the spirit)" ?
[link to www.divisiontheory.org] |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 5:37 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
That is what Satan wants you to believe. If you are driving down the road and you make one mistake doesn't matter what it is, your choice. You make it. you didn't put brake fluid in your car. and so when you go to stop you can't and you kill someone.
Does it matter that you have paid your taxes? no
Does it matter that you never killed anyone before? in vain? yes. in defense/war, no.
Does it matter that you are a good person? yes
If they are all correct then they should all say the same thing.
They do not. generally, most do.
just about every single religion says that the soul of a man, lives his life, then returns to heaven. they are all generally similar. be it god, allah, buddha, they are all referring to the same person. the source of ALL that is.
Religion, is mans attempt to understand what God has given. No matter what message is sent there will be a false message to go with it. but i take it that you were lucky enough to be BORN into the RIGHT one?
Christ, and Christ alone, will set you free, If it is not true what have you lost? what?
If it is not true Why is it attacked all the time? because its religion. and most followers are arrogant, claiming they are right and everyone else is wrong because that is what they have been told.
Since it is true there will always be False teachers and then people always want to point to the false teachers and then say see it is false, Duh...
If Charles Manson Claimed to be a Prophet does that make him one? no
The bible speaks very clearly about testing who is from God.
Do not bank on something that is not there. then where is god?
i know god exists. i know he is not a harsh bastard like you claim. i know that religion keeps us divided. i know that god understands this, as it is a challenge we face here, being divided and different. |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 774431
9/19/2009 5:39 AM
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i don't understand why you think god would condemn you to hell (for eternity), just for not accepting christ. don't you think god has a higher knowledge? he see's that we are all divided. do you think that he expects people to give up their national religion which they have been raised on, to accept christ, which is just 1 view of the thousands? oh but your religion is the right one, and all others are wrong. it is nonsense. Quoting: Energy
The bible is clear on this, We were in the Garden of Eden. life was good, We sin- It kills our spirit which slowly kills our body. We are changed we now have a sinful nature. God loves us does not wish for us to perish. He says pay for our sin, we do offerings, but no sooner than we do an offering we sin, a never ending cycle.
He sends Christ to pay for our sins.
It is our choice We pay for our sin or Christ does,
We are not able to Pay, no matter how hard we try We are not able to save our self.
It is not My Religion, It is the Testimony of Jesus, his life, his death. And all the events thru history, My own personal struggles, It is nonsense because of the sinful nature you struggle against.
no, really, he is not. not everyone is born in a country where the national religion is christianity. other people, on other continents, have completely different surroundings and culture. they too believe in god (no matter what there name is for god, they are referring to the same entity as you. the one source for ALL that is) and that they will one day return to him/her. you think some evil god is going to say (just for example) "sorry. you who were compassionate caring and spread love throughout your whole life, probably deserve to be in heaven a little more than that guy who was greedy and selfish, but he accepted christ. now i know he had to accept christ because he was taught in a catholic school, and you lived in a completely different part of the world, and not once were you ever even taught about christ, but you must burn in hell, for ETERNITY."
this is crazy. forget what you have been told.. ask yourself, what do you 'feel'? do you 'feel' like god would do that to someone? Quoting: Energy
Feelings have nothing to do with facts, it is Feelings that Satan uses to defeat you, you have a sinful nature, your feelings are sinful and will tell you lies.
The facts will show your Feelings to be wrong. From there you Can accept Christ, and then you will have the ability to reason with out having to check against emotion.
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 774431
9/19/2009 5:44 AM
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i know god exists. i know he is not a harsh bastard like you claim. i know that religion keeps us divided. i know that god understands this, as it is a challenge we face here, being divided and different. Quoting: Energy
Do you see what you are saying? Why would you call God a "harsh b*****d" ?
Do you not feel that you deserve Death? if We were Perfect then why do we DIE?
If we don't deserve Death, why would God allow us to DIE?
If he allows us TO DIE, Then would he not also allow us TO GOTO hell?
If he is love would he not want us to escape death,
Would he not send us someone to help?
Why would that person NOT be Jesus?
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 5:50 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
What if you found out Energy that God is Christ. And if you don't accept him, he understands that but he tried to say what the alternative was. He is all there is really. Everything else was a built illusion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58109
well even if christ is god, he knows that i am referring to him, the one source, god, whatever he likes to be called.
there are many what if's, what if christ is an illusion? what if? i believe that jesus christ was very real, i'm pretty sure its even been proven. i just know that god would not condemn someone to burn forever, because they were not aware of christ. god is forgiving, and understands. he will not burn you if you choose to not believe in him. he understands this world is hell, there is suffering everywhere, he also knows that this is necessary for learning. it is why we are here, to better ourselves, our souls, god understands if you worship 5 different gods, it's ok, he understands. |
| danhow
User ID: 748709
9/19/2009 5:53 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
No, his mission has two parts here, one to save and be resurrected himself, then one to come back, and by the way when he comes back, its to take over the earth and rule it for 1000 years.Where in the bible does it state this?
The second question is excellent, in view of our vastly expanded knowledge of the universe. I have an answer for you. it is that this one earth is the place god chose to incarnate himself in the universe (creation) and the other planets are part of it as well, but not of the 'god' level so this planet is very special, and so is 'mankind' mankind is the god creation/incarnation and there is only one not many of those. this is all biblical by the way, not me guessing. - the part where i submit that mankind is the god manifestation in the creation (universe) there are likely other civilizations out there, but christ need not appear to each one, rather we will be representing him in that regard and with that authority.Where does it state this in the bible? Quoting: blakey 759954 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 751770
9/19/2009 5:54 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
How does the bible define marriage. If I have a monogamous relationship and I declare it socially, am I married in a biblical sense? Or, do I need an official ceromony/marriage license for my union with my mate to be biblically acceptable as a holy union? |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 6:01 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
i know god exists. i know he is not a harsh bastard like you claim. i know that religion keeps us divided. i know that god understands this, as it is a challenge we face here, being divided and different.
Do you see what you are saying? Why would you call God a "harsh b*****d" ? i know he is not a harsh bastard
Do you not feel that you deserve Death? if We were Perfect then why do we DIE? our bodies die, we do not. you have nothing to be afraid of.
If we don't deserve Death, why would God allow us to DIE?
If he allows us TO DIE, Then would he not also allow us TO GOTO hell? see above, and because god is love, like you said.
If he is love would he not want us to escape death,
Would he not send us someone to help? because he knows we will be fine. we will return home perfectly safe. do you believe in heaven?
Why would that person NOT be Jesus? why not buddha? or allah? are you saying jesus will come to rescue you, before you die? Quoting: Preacher Bob |
| danhow
User ID: 748709
9/19/2009 6:11 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
The Gospels are not history; they are religious propaganda, contradictory, exaggerated, and mythical. The earliest Christian writings, the letters of Paul, are silent about the man Jesus: Paul, who never met Jesus, fails to mention a single deed or saying of Jesus (except for the ritualistic Last Supper formula), and sometimes contradicts what Jesus supposedly said. To Paul, Jesus was a heavenly disembodied Christ figure, not a man of flesh and blood.
[link to www.exminister.org]
There is serious doubt that Jesus ever existed. It is impossible to prove he was a historical figure. It is much more plausible to consider the Jesus character to be the result of myth-making, a human process that is indeed historically documented |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 6:11 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
i didn't come to bicker. just know that god understands the choices you make. completely. and that you will be fine. you may do whatever you please here. follow your heart. if you need to follow a book to be safe, that's fine. but don't look down on those who do not follow that book, honor each individuals free will. and i even accept and believe in christ. i believe some of the bible, but i KNOW that god is a loving god, levels of love that may take our souls billions or trillions of earth years to understand. (time is only an earthly obsession) he is not a harsh soul burner. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774138
9/19/2009 6:13 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
does isiah 44:20 state that smoking weed is a lie? |
| danhow
User ID: 748709
9/19/2009 6:16 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
There have been many reasons for doubting the claim, but the consensus among critical scholars today appears to be that the story is a "legend." During the 60-70 years it took for the Gospels to be composed, the original story went through a growth period that began with the unadorned idea that Jesus, like Grandma, had "died and gone to heaven" and ended with a fantastic narrative produced by a later generation of believers that included earthquakes, angels, an eclipse, a resuscitated corpse, and a spectacular bodily ascension into the clouds.
The earliest Christians believed in the "spiritual" resurrection of Jesus. The story evolved over time into a "bodily" resurrection
The life of Jesus is not corroborated. Not a single word about Jesus appears outside of the New Testament in the entire first century, even though many writers documented first-hand the early Roman Empire in great detail, including careful accounts of the time and place where Jesus supposedly taught[10]. The little paragraph about Jesus that appears in Josephus' Antiquities (written after 90 CE) is regarded by liberal and conservative scholars to have been either entirely interpolated or drastically altered by a later generation of believers, probably by the dishonest Christian historian Eusebius in the 4th century[11]. (Whichever view is right, they both agree that early Christians tampered with documents, a fact that must bear on the reliability of the New Testament writings.)
The handful of 2nd-century references to "Christ" are too late to be of much value[12]. They are brief 2nd- or 3rd-hand accounts of what some people by that time believed had happened in their distant past, and none of them mention the name "Jesus." They are hearsay, not history.
The silence of Paul is also a problem. Paul wrote his letters many years before the Gospels, and it appears he was unaware of anything said in them about Jesus, except for some wording from a Last Supper ritual. Paul never met Jesus and never quoted the Jesus of the Gospels, even when that would have served his purposes. He sometimes disagreed with Jesus[13]. He never mentioned a single deed or miracle of Jesus. If Jesus had been a real person, certainly Paul, his main cheerleader, would have talked about him as a man. The "Christ" in Paul's epistles is mainly a supernatural figure, not a flesh and blood man of history
[link to www.ffrf.org] |
| Energy
User ID: 745210
9/19/2009 6:22 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
not everyone is born in a country where the national religion is christianity. other people, on other continents, have completely different surroundings and culture. they too believe in god (no matter what there name is for god, they are referring to the same entity as you. the one source for ALL that is) and that they will one day return to him/her. you think some evil god is going to say (just for example) "sorry. you who were compassionate caring and spread love throughout your whole life, probably deserve to be in heaven a little more than that guy who was greedy and selfish, but he accepted christ. now i know he had to accept christ because he was taught in a catholic school, and you lived in a completely different part of the world, and not once were you ever even taught about christ, but you must burn in hell, for ETERNITY." Quoting: Energy
Preacher Bob, please answer this, after reading the above paragraph fully. Do you think that God would send someone to burn in hell for eternity, if all they did in their life was try to spread peace and love, but they were never taught about Christ, therefor never had the chance to accept him? Would this peaceful loving person be sent burn in hell? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774138
9/19/2009 6:24 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
The silence of Paul is also a problem. Paul wrote his letters many years before the Gospels, and it appears he was unaware of anything said in them about Jesus, except for some wording from a Last Supper ritual. Paul never met Jesus and never quoted the Jesus of the Gospels, even when that would have served his purposes. He sometimes disagreed with Jesus[13]. He never mentioned a single deed or miracle of Jesus. If Jesus had been a real person, certainly Paul, his main cheerleader, would have talked about him as a man. The "Christ" in Paul's epistles is mainly a supernatural figure, not a flesh and blood man of history
[ link to www.ffrf.org]
What if they make agent provocateur the next Jesus, so everybody gets back into CHECK? Right before Earth's re-tilling / re-seeding.
J.O.N.E.S. - Jesus Of Nazereth Endtime Savior |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774138
9/19/2009 6:24 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
The silence of Paul is also a problem. Paul wrote his letters many years before the Gospels, and it appears he was unaware of anything said in them about Jesus, except for some wording from a Last Supper ritual. Paul never met Jesus and never quoted the Jesus of the Gospels, even when that would have served his purposes. He sometimes disagreed with Jesus[13]. He never mentioned a single deed or miracle of Jesus. If Jesus had been a real person, certainly Paul, his main cheerleader, would have talked about him as a man. The "Christ" in Paul's epistles is mainly a supernatural figure, not a flesh and blood man of history
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What if they make agent provocateur the next Jesus, so everybody gets back into CHECK? Right before Earth's re-tilling / re-seeding.
J.O.N.E.S. - Jesus Of Nazereth Endtime Savior
àl3X J0nes |
| Preacher Bob
User ID: 774431
9/19/2009 6:25 AM
| | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
does isiah 44:20 state that smoking weed is a lie? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774138
If that is your God then yes that is what it is saying.
What does it bring you, temporary pleasure, Does it add One day to your life?
If it did then could you not just keep smoking it and live forever?
Is it so important that you can't put it down, you may lie to yourself and say you can, but can you?
These are things you must ask yourself? I can only point you in the right direction.
John 4
He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV) |
| danhow
User ID: 748709
9/19/2009 6:28 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
In a previous post, I've listed and counted God's killings in the Bible. But I only included those that said exactly how many were killed by God. I came up with 2,270,365.
But that didn't include some of God's most impressive slaughters. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? The Bible doesn't say, so there's no way to know for sure. But it's possible to provide rough estimates in order to get a grand total, and that's what I'm attempting here. (New total: 32.9 million.)
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I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh. -- Deuteronomy 32:39-42 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 757008
9/19/2009 6:30 AM | | Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity | Quote |
good thread blakey, ive only been reading your posts, and some of the questions.
Ive been stuck in sin for quite a while and finally God is beginning to be real to me again since he broke me about a year ago and finally im getting to the point where im letting go of conscious sin and starting to be obediant. I just wanted to thank you for your words and wisdom and it has been very encouraging to read. ill be checking this thread for time to time.
i got 1 for you.
do all 'temptations or tests' of our faith come from satan? for example, i was in a very unique situation then ended me up in a bar and i got hammered and was an huge idiot.
my questions is did that 'unique situation' come about as god testing me or satan tempting me? or could it have been either. i got into a discussion about it with a friend and i wasnt sure. and if both instances occur what makes them distingushable?
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