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The final verdict on NASA´s Apollo Missions: No. Here is why not and how they pulled it off

 
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The why not is definitly radiation.

Here an overview on the radiation issue, followed by a scenario of what may have really happened up there.













Now for the Astronauts.


Let´s speculate for a moment.

There was an internal debate on how to position this with the crews. It was finally decided it was too big of a security risk to have a scenario where Astronauts would be informed of the truth, and sworn to secrecy on penalty of severe repercussions to them or their families. Someone in military intelligence suggested there was a proven method that was practically without risk.

Enter Project Monarch. NASA now had their perfect instrument and could go ahead to stage the biggest show mankind was ever presented. It was simple, Astronauts were generally harvested from the military, and would not be at all surprised or concerned about some form of "special" training. The said training was called "Mind Guard" and was explained to the candidates as necessary to prepare them mentally for the encounter of the infinite void of space, and to prevent space dementia. Part of the procedure was a partial deconstruction of the candidate, the implant of certain events, and the insert of memory pegs. With these pegs, the mind can be ordered to "stop recording" to memory until another input (peg) is received.

So far so good. But there was still a problem, namely the fact that one out of five individuals can not be completely controlled, and almost two out of five cannot be wiped correctly. The problem was that the programmers could not be 100% sure until after the effect, no matter how much testing was done. Hence a decision had to be made: The ones that showed a clear programming failure were not to be sent on the official lunar missions, and were placed on the bottom of the Apollo flight list for now.

The ones who were responding were taken into the inner circle and gradually informed what was about to happen and why. You can imagine the God& Country patriotic speeches, indoctrination and whatever else they could throw at them. Most responded well as programmed, some did not. Some had to be terminated, like Gus Grissom, who hung a lemon on the lunar module. A total of ten candidates had to be terminated for security reasons.

Weeks before the actual Apollo 11 mission all Moon footage involving Astronauts had been shot, without even the Astronauts themselves being involved. All Moonwalk footage was done by stand ins, yes, including the famous first step. Audio? Not theirs.

The rest is history. The crews were launched into low earth orbit. When reaching around 500 km the service module becomes a satellite in low orbit, and the astronauts play out their pre-recorded schedule. Make no mistake, they are fully under control of Monarch at this time. "EAT". "SLEEP". "PRESS CONFERENCE". And the module orbits and orbits.

Crunch time. Eagle has landed. While the whole world laughs, cries and jumps for joy when Neil speaks his famous words, the real Neil Armstrong is dozing off in a subconscious control state some 500km above Earth. Right about... there, the LEM is dropped from the service module to fall to its destruction into the middle of the pacific, far from inquiring eyes.

During the following period, the pre-shot film reels are played in sequence one after another. When the time comes for their final press conference before landing they are activated, and the footage shot may or may not be used so a five minute delay is ordered to be safe. All goes well. Their final triggers are delivered. You did it guys, wow. "...did...we.....what...I...cannot...".

Training kicks in, reality hits. prepare for re-entry.

They are down, look at them wave... See how happy they are? Final debriefing before the presentation to the world includes minute checks of the programming and a few triggers to hammer the memories into place. All seems ok, they may move to press conference. The footage of their faces shows confusion and frustration if nothing else. This should have been arrogant joy.

It is perfect. The Astronauts themselves know just a little about the fact they needed to help with a little lie in showing the craft further away than it actually was, but it was explained to them this was done for technical reasons. All the rest they experienced themselves. As far as they know they really did go to the Moon and saw awe inspiring things. They sense there is something wrong because their memories of the events on the Moon are all mixed up and fuzzy, but are not sure what it is, so they think it is them. They were told to be careful with their words and reveal nothing about the alien structures they "saw".

It is interesting to note that visions of extra terrestial structures were deliberately implanted to control the Astronauts in "keeping the big secret" and as a distraction from the fact they did not go at all. If you think about the evil genius of it all you must appreciate this effort. Throw a few aliens in there and you will draw attention away from the real issue: radiation.

This is, ofcourse, mere speculation.

I need not remind the reader that there is abundant evidence of an advanced mind control program being used as early as the 1940´s by the O.S.S. (pre-C.I.A.). CIA and later NASA itself because of numerous witnesses coming forward over the past few years. Monarch and MK-ULTRA were and are a reality, and the techniques that are now almost perfectioned by years and years of field experience are being used on a daily basis by mainstream media all over the world.

We should not blame the Astronauts; they are just pawns in a bigger game. Maybe now you understand their reactions. I have nothing but respect for them, and I really pity them for what they had to go through to protect the lunar project, NASA´s face & the image of the United States in winning the space race from the Russians.

Will NASA ever be exposed or the whole truth ever revealed? Not likely, because this would trigger events that would seriously endanger the satanic world elite who were ruling back in the sixties, and their offspring who rule today.

The big secret is nothing more than the fact than mankind cannot go into deep space, not even to the Moon because of the high exposure cosmic rays for which at this time no sufficient shielding exists.

Maybe the true reason is that we need to create another form of propulsion using scalar gravity waves, which would place the ship into a protective EM coccoon. There you go. Fixed two problems at once. Velocity and radiation protection. O, but NASA knows that already. Hmmmmm.

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That seems horribly incorrect and made up. Good day.
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I think this has some good points OP and I'll check the vids.

I think the whole thing is bogus too. And I have always thought Neil Armstrong acts like a typical mind control victim. His behavior (and silence) over the years has always been very telling. I think the man can't remember a LOT and it really bothers him. Mind Control is a given when it comes to NASA and the rest of the NAZI covert govt. that works in the shadow of NASA.
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butt Astronaut in a diaper...nuff said.
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The final verdict...
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The why not is definitly...
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scenario of what may have really happened
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Let´s speculate for a moment.
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This is, ofcourse, mere speculation.
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Maybe the true reason is that
...
 Quoting: Eden

So, your "definitly" "final verdict" is based on PURE SPECULATION, not FACTS.

In other words complete bullshit.

You fail.
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Anything without hard evidence has to be termed speculation.

The hard evidence to the fact that no human has been into deep space (through & beyond the Van Allen belts) is radiation, and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it.

Now, HOW they pulled it off is most likely mind control as I described it.

There is no question in my mind no human has been exposed to those levels of radiation and lived to tell about it.

Hence Apollo: No.
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That seems horribly incorrect and made up. Good day.
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Well, I agree that what NASA did was horribly politically incorrect.
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Anything without hard evidence has to be termed speculation.
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Agreed.


The hard evidence to the fact that no human has been into deep space...
 Quoting: Eden

It is not a fact.


...and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it
 Quoting: Eden

Of course it can, that's your opinion, not fact.


Now, HOW they pulled it off is most likely mind control as I described it.
 Quoting: Eden

Be happy in your delusions.


Hence Apollo: No.
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In your opinion.
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...and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it

Of course it can, that's your opinion, not fact.

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So please explain how 18 men survived the effects of solar emissions, solar radiation, cosmic gamma radiation and Z-particles, a radioactive Moon surface and a double trip through the VAB.

How about the films in the Hasselblad cameras that shot all these perfect pictures despite exposure to solar radiation?

Unless you bring forth any debatable arguments, you are just using up valuable space.

You cannot refute the numbers.
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Come on Apollogists.

I expected more resistance from you...
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If the Apollo astronaunts were fried in a week in space that means they are seeing a radiation rate of 2000 RAD/week. Since satellites are hardened to between 50k and 200k RAD that means those satellites must be breaking down every six months to two years. No wonder why DirecTV and Dish network is so expensive - they have to be constantly shooting new satellites into orbit. GPS satellite sit in the middle of the Van Allen belt - that is why GPS doesn't work very well - the satellites are constantly failing.

Good catch.
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Hey OP.

That's a nice little story, can you actually back any of that up with physical evidence?

References?

How bout a list of those alleged Ten assassinated astronauts?

Anything?

Because, let me make this clear. Just cause you say so, isn't good enough.
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Guess the OP can't answer these questions.

After all that smack talk about getting no resistance...lol.
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...and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it

Of course it can, that's your opinion, not fact.



So please explain how 18 men survived the effects of solar emissions, solar radiation, cosmic gamma radiation and Z-particles, a radioactive Moon surface and a double trip through the VAB.

How about the films in the Hasselblad cameras that shot all these perfect pictures despite exposure to solar radiation?

Unless you bring forth any debatable arguments, you are just using up valuable space.

You cannot refute the numbers.
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Bullshit. You have the ewyewitness accounts of those 18 men, and the thousands of scientists that worked on the project.

I'll take that any day over your opinion.
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Come on Apollogists.

I expected more resistance from you...
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You haven't offered up any FACTS, just your OPINION.

In other words, you have nothing.
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Hey OP.

That's a nice little story, can you actually back any of that up with physical evidence?

References?

How bout a list of those alleged Ten assassinated astronauts?

Anything?

Because, let me make this clear. Just cause you say so, isn't good enough.
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The radiation evidence speaks for itself. That´s one.

The mind control methods can be researched freely. A good start would be Cathy O´ Brian and the book Tranceformation of America. Available online somewhere.

As to the strange NASA Astronaut death rate in the sixties:

Theodore C. Freeman (USAF) (Trained to pilot an Apollo mission.)
Charles A. Bassett II (USAF) (selected for the space program in October 1963)
Elliot M. See, Jr (selected for astronaut training)
Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom (USAF) Apollo 1 "accident"
Edward H. White II (USAF) idem
Roger B. Chaffee (USN), Apollo 1 idem
Clifton C. Williams, Jr. (USMC) ( Selected In October 1963. Backup lunar module pilot for Apollo 3 and Apollo 9)
Michael J. Adams (USAF) (Selected to become an astronaut in 1965 to serve aboard the Manned Orbiting Laboratory)
Robert H. Lawrence (USAF) (Selected as astronaut 1967)

That makes it nine, my bad. Ironically they probably only wanted Grissom dead and sacrificed White and Chaffee in the process.

If anyone can tell me my scenario is not possible I would like to know why.
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Bullshit. You have the ewyewitness accounts of those 18 men, and the thousands of scientists that worked on the project.

I'll take that any day over your opinion.
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Aaah all those scientists went to the Moon with them did they?

And what use is eyewitness accounts from brain washed astronauts?

I am still waiting for an explanation on how they survived.
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Guess the OP can't answer these questions.

After all that smack talk about getting no resistance...lol.
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Arguments?
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If the Apollo astronaunts were fried in a week in space that means they are seeing a radiation rate of 2000 RAD/week. Since satellites are hardened to between 50k and 200k RAD that means those satellites must be breaking down every six months to two years. No wonder why DirecTV and Dish network is so expensive - they have to be constantly shooting new satellites into orbit. GPS satellite sit in the middle of the Van Allen belt - that is why GPS doesn't work very well - the satellites are constantly failing.

Good catch.
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Are satellites in deep space?

Do your homework before you fudder.
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You haven't offered up any FACTS, just your OPINION.

In other words, you have nothing.
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So there is no solar radiation?

It is harmless?

To settle the mind control argument is really simple:

Get Neil Armstrong in a controlled environment with the same individuals who reconstructed the actual memory of those who came forward and see what surfaces.

Not likely to happen any time soon is it?

He would be dead before reaching the facility.
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Still waiting Apollogists...

How did they survive?
Why is my cover-up scenario not possible?

Be specific.
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I see this scenario as plausible.
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The radiation evidence speaks for itself. That´s one.

The mind control methods can be researched freely. A good start would be Cathy O´ Brian and the book Tranceformation of America. Available online somewhere.

As to the strange NASA Astronaut death rate in the sixties:

Theodore C. Freeman (USAF) (Trained to pilot an Apollo mission.)
Charles A. Bassett II (USAF) (selected for the space program in October 1963)
Elliot M. See, Jr (selected for astronaut training)
Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom (USAF) Apollo 1 "accident"
Edward H. White II (USAF) idem
Roger B. Chaffee (USN), Apollo 1 idem
Clifton C. Williams, Jr. (USMC) ( Selected In October 1963. Backup lunar module pilot for Apollo 3 and Apollo 9)
Michael J. Adams (USAF) (Selected to become an astronaut in 1965 to serve aboard the Manned Orbiting Laboratory)
Robert H. Lawrence (USAF) (Selected as astronaut 1967)

That makes it nine, my bad. Ironically they probably only wanted Grissom dead and sacrificed White and Chaffee in the process.

If anyone can tell me my scenario is not possible I would like to know why.
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Yeah, your radiation evidence just doesn't bear out. It's called reality and RADIATION SHIELDING.

There is ZERO proof that any of Cathy O'Briens claims are true. Her alleged memories were produced by hypnotic regression, which is commonly inaccurate.

Your opinion that the death rate of a test program are strange, is just that, your opinion. With nothing to back it up. Unless you can show me a statistical study, or perhaps testimony from a statistician about this occurrence.

I for one, don't think it's strange that people trying something new, got something wrong, and some died from it. Can you imagine how many people died creating gun powder?
How about steam power?
How about flight?
How about new rushed out vaccines?

Your final statement for people to show how "my scenario is not possible" is just so much nonsense.
Of course your scenario is POSSIBLE, but did it happen? No.

You've failed to show real evidence that space is to radiation intensive for humans.

You've failed to prove any of Cathy O'briens nonsese is true.

You've failed to show that those astronauts were assassinated.

Your scenario, did not happen.
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You've failed to show real evidence that space is to radiation intensive for humans.
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Are you serious? I hope you are joking... Evidence is presented in the videos above with references to scientific studies of the sun. Deep space is full of deadly radiation, even NASA admits this. Would you have watched the videos you would have known this and seen the NASA segments.

You've failed to prove any of Cathy O' briens nonsese is true.
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I presented her as a reference for those who are unaware of the mind control programs which have been practiced for decades.

As you seem too lazy yourself to do any research, here some video showing mind control program witnesses.







As far as Cathy O´ Brian is concerned, do you think she carved a demon face inside her vagina herself?

(Warning, graphic)


I highly recommend her eye opening book "the trance formation of america".

You've failed to show that those astronauts were assassinated.
 Quoting: Byteman


I have shown that several died, that is all. If I could prove they were assassinated I would not be posting in here.

Your scenario, did not happen.
 Quoting: Byteman


That is your opinion, and I do respect that.

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And what use is eyewitness accounts from brain washed astronauts?
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That's just YOUR OPINION, NOT FACT.

PROVE that they were brainwashed.

The onus is on YOU to PROVE YOUR case, not on them to do anything.


I am still waiting for an explanation on how they survived.
 Quoting: Eden

They don't need to explain anything.

YOU need to PROVE your case with FACTS.

Your OPINION isn't worth anything.
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The radiation evidence speaks for itself.
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This is total bullshit.

It DOES NOT speak for itself.

YOU have drawn YOUR OWN conclusions from YOUR OPINION, and now you state them as fact.

How LAME. How COMPLETELY UN-SCIENTIFIC.

LAME.

LAME.

LAME.

LAME.

LAME.

OP, you have NOTHING.
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And what use is eyewitness accounts from brain washed astronauts?

That's just YOUR OPINION, NOT FACT.

PROVE that they were brainwashed.

The onus is on YOU to PROVE YOUR case, not on them to do anything.



I am still waiting for an explanation on how they survived.

They don't need to explain anything.

YOU need to PROVE your case with FACTS.

Your OPINION isn't worth anything.
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I am not going to answer hollow arguments.

If I could prove they were brainwashed would I be here?

I can only prove that there is such a thing as mind control, and I can offer the scenario that would fit all factors.

With regards to the survival of men in deep space: unless you tell me exactly why the several scientific studies that show the lethal emissions from the Sun beyond Earth´s protective atmosphere AND the segment by NASA acknowledging this are all wrong and deep space is safe enough for 18 humans with minimal shielding to travel in you will not be debated further.

You too did not watch the segments did you, so why exactly should I have the courtesy to answer your hollow arguments?
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The mind control methods can be researched freely. A good start would be Cathy O´ Brian and the book Tranceformation of America. Available online somewhere.
 Quoting: Eden

SO WHAT if they "can be researched freely" !!!!

So what, that doesn't PROVE anything.

PROVE that the astronauts were mind controlled.

Provide EVIDENCE, not CONJECTURE.
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The radiation evidence speaks for itself.

This is total bullshit.

It DOES NOT speak for itself.

YOU have drawn YOUR OWN conclusions from YOUR OPINION, and now you state them as fact.

How LAME. How COMPLETELY UN-SCIENTIFIC.

LAME.

LAME.

LAME.

LAME.

LAME.

OP, you have NOTHING.
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cry

Here, have a napkin. Finished?

Now watch and learn.
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I am not going to answer hollow arguments.
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Ah, when asked to actually PROVE anything, as with most conspiracy theorists, you retreat to your corner.


If I could prove they were brainwashed would I be here?
 Quoting: Eden

Irrelevant.


I can only prove that there is such a thing as mind control, and I can offer the scenario that would fit all factors.
 Quoting: Eden

Again irrelevant. I agree that mind control exists. So what ?

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