The final verdict on NASA´s Apollo Missions: No. Here is why not and how they pulled it off | |
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DSP User ID: 754366 United States 09/20/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That seems horribly incorrect and made up. Good day. "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." - Thomas Jefferson "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution." - James Madison "The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity." - John Adams "Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. I had hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the Christians so that their religious fights would not endanger the peace of Society." - George Washington "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies." - Benjamin Franklin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada 09/20/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmmmm...I LIKE it!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762208I think this has some good points OP and I'll check the vids. I think the whole thing is bogus too. And I have always thought Neil Armstrong acts like a typical mind control victim. His behavior (and silence) over the years has always been very telling. I think the man can't remember a LOT and it really bothers him. Mind Control is a given when it comes to NASA and the rest of the NAZI covert govt. that works in the shadow of NASA. Astronaut in a diaper...nuff said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The final verdict... Quoting: Eden... The why not is definitly... ... Quoting: Edenscenario of what may have really happened ... Let´s speculate for a moment. ... This is, ofcourse, mere speculation. ... Maybe the true reason is that ... So, your "definitly" "final verdict" is based on PURE SPECULATION, not FACTS. In other words complete bullshit. You fail. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anything without hard evidence has to be termed speculation. The hard evidence to the fact that no human has been into deep space (through & beyond the Van Allen belts) is radiation, and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it. Now, HOW they pulled it off is most likely mind control as I described it. There is no question in my mind no human has been exposed to those levels of radiation and lived to tell about it. Hence Apollo: No. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anything without hard evidence has to be termed speculation. Quoting: EdenAgreed. The hard evidence to the fact that no human has been into deep space... Quoting: EdenIt is not a fact. ...and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it Quoting: EdenOf course it can, that's your opinion, not fact. Now, HOW they pulled it off is most likely mind control as I described it. Quoting: EdenBe happy in your delusions. Hence Apollo: No. Quoting: EdenIn your opinion. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775486Of course it can, that's your opinion, not fact. So please explain how 18 men survived the effects of solar emissions, solar radiation, cosmic gamma radiation and Z-particles, a radioactive Moon surface and a double trip through the VAB. How about the films in the Hasselblad cameras that shot all these perfect pictures despite exposure to solar radiation? Unless you bring forth any debatable arguments, you are just using up valuable space. You cannot refute the numbers. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 724735 United States 09/20/2009 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the Apollo astronaunts were fried in a week in space that means they are seeing a radiation rate of 2000 RAD/week. Since satellites are hardened to between 50k and 200k RAD that means those satellites must be breaking down every six months to two years. No wonder why DirecTV and Dish network is so expensive - they have to be constantly shooting new satellites into orbit. GPS satellite sit in the middle of the Van Allen belt - that is why GPS doesn't work very well - the satellites are constantly failing. Good catch. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 564424 United States 09/20/2009 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP. That's a nice little story, can you actually back any of that up with physical evidence? References? How bout a list of those alleged Ten assassinated astronauts? Anything? Because, let me make this clear. Just cause you say so, isn't good enough. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and that cannot be refuted which ever way you look at it Quoting: EdenOf course it can, that's your opinion, not fact. So please explain how 18 men survived the effects of solar emissions, solar radiation, cosmic gamma radiation and Z-particles, a radioactive Moon surface and a double trip through the VAB. How about the films in the Hasselblad cameras that shot all these perfect pictures despite exposure to solar radiation? Unless you bring forth any debatable arguments, you are just using up valuable space. You cannot refute the numbers. Bullshit. You have the ewyewitness accounts of those 18 men, and the thousands of scientists that worked on the project. I'll take that any day over your opinion. |
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Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 564424That's a nice little story, can you actually back any of that up with physical evidence? References? How bout a list of those alleged Ten assassinated astronauts? Anything? Because, let me make this clear. Just cause you say so, isn't good enough. The radiation evidence speaks for itself. That´s one. The mind control methods can be researched freely. A good start would be Cathy O´ Brian and the book Tranceformation of America. Available online somewhere. As to the strange NASA Astronaut death rate in the sixties: Theodore C. Freeman (USAF) (Trained to pilot an Apollo mission.) Charles A. Bassett II (USAF) (selected for the space program in October 1963) Elliot M. See, Jr (selected for astronaut training) Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom (USAF) Apollo 1 "accident" Edward H. White II (USAF) idem Roger B. Chaffee (USN), Apollo 1 idem Clifton C. Williams, Jr. (USMC) ( Selected In October 1963. Backup lunar module pilot for Apollo 3 and Apollo 9) Michael J. Adams (USAF) (Selected to become an astronaut in 1965 to serve aboard the Manned Orbiting Laboratory) Robert H. Lawrence (USAF) (Selected as astronaut 1967) That makes it nine, my bad. Ironically they probably only wanted Grissom dead and sacrificed White and Chaffee in the process. If anyone can tell me my scenario is not possible I would like to know why. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. You have the ewyewitness accounts of those 18 men, and the thousands of scientists that worked on the project. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775486I'll take that any day over your opinion. Aaah all those scientists went to the Moon with them did they? And what use is eyewitness accounts from brain washed astronauts? I am still waiting for an explanation on how they survived. |
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Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the Apollo astronaunts were fried in a week in space that means they are seeing a radiation rate of 2000 RAD/week. Since satellites are hardened to between 50k and 200k RAD that means those satellites must be breaking down every six months to two years. No wonder why DirecTV and Dish network is so expensive - they have to be constantly shooting new satellites into orbit. GPS satellite sit in the middle of the Van Allen belt - that is why GPS doesn't work very well - the satellites are constantly failing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 724735Good catch. Are satellites in deep space? Do your homework before you fudder. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You haven't offered up any FACTS, just your OPINION. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775486In other words, you have nothing. So there is no solar radiation? It is harmless? To settle the mind control argument is really simple: Get Neil Armstrong in a controlled environment with the same individuals who reconstructed the actual memory of those who came forward and see what surfaces. Not likely to happen any time soon is it? He would be dead before reaching the facility. |
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Byteman User ID: 564424 United States 09/20/2009 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The radiation evidence speaks for itself. That´s one. Quoting: EdenThe mind control methods can be researched freely. A good start would be Cathy O´ Brian and the book Tranceformation of America. Available online somewhere. As to the strange NASA Astronaut death rate in the sixties: Theodore C. Freeman (USAF) (Trained to pilot an Apollo mission.) Charles A. Bassett II (USAF) (selected for the space program in October 1963) Elliot M. See, Jr (selected for astronaut training) Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom (USAF) Apollo 1 "accident" Edward H. White II (USAF) idem Roger B. Chaffee (USN), Apollo 1 idem Clifton C. Williams, Jr. (USMC) ( Selected In October 1963. Backup lunar module pilot for Apollo 3 and Apollo 9) Michael J. Adams (USAF) (Selected to become an astronaut in 1965 to serve aboard the Manned Orbiting Laboratory) Robert H. Lawrence (USAF) (Selected as astronaut 1967) That makes it nine, my bad. Ironically they probably only wanted Grissom dead and sacrificed White and Chaffee in the process. If anyone can tell me my scenario is not possible I would like to know why. Yeah, your radiation evidence just doesn't bear out. It's called reality and RADIATION SHIELDING. There is ZERO proof that any of Cathy O'Briens claims are true. Her alleged memories were produced by hypnotic regression, which is commonly inaccurate. Your opinion that the death rate of a test program are strange, is just that, your opinion. With nothing to back it up. Unless you can show me a statistical study, or perhaps testimony from a statistician about this occurrence. I for one, don't think it's strange that people trying something new, got something wrong, and some died from it. Can you imagine how many people died creating gun powder? How about steam power? How about flight? How about new rushed out vaccines? Your final statement for people to show how "my scenario is not possible" is just so much nonsense. Of course your scenario is POSSIBLE, but did it happen? No. You've failed to show real evidence that space is to radiation intensive for humans. You've failed to prove any of Cathy O'briens nonsese is true. You've failed to show that those astronauts were assassinated. Your scenario, did not happen. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've failed to show real evidence that space is to radiation intensive for humans. Quoting: BytemanAre you serious? I hope you are joking... Evidence is presented in the videos above with references to scientific studies of the sun. Deep space is full of deadly radiation, even NASA admits this. Would you have watched the videos you would have known this and seen the NASA segments. You've failed to prove any of Cathy O' briens nonsese is true. Quoting: BytemanI presented her as a reference for those who are unaware of the mind control programs which have been practiced for decades. As you seem too lazy yourself to do any research, here some video showing mind control program witnesses. As far as Cathy O´ Brian is concerned, do you think she carved a demon face inside her vagina herself? (Warning, graphic) I highly recommend her eye opening book "the trance formation of america". You've failed to show that those astronauts were assassinated. Quoting: BytemanI have shown that several died, that is all. If I could prove they were assassinated I would not be posting in here. Your scenario, did not happen. Quoting: BytemanThat is your opinion, and I do respect that. Last Edited by Eden on 09/20/2009 05:06 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what use is eyewitness accounts from brain washed astronauts? Quoting: EdenThat's just YOUR OPINION, NOT FACT. PROVE that they were brainwashed. The onus is on YOU to PROVE YOUR case, not on them to do anything. I am still waiting for an explanation on how they survived. Quoting: EdenThey don't need to explain anything. YOU need to PROVE your case with FACTS. Your OPINION isn't worth anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The radiation evidence speaks for itself. Quoting: EdenThis is total bullshit. It DOES NOT speak for itself. YOU have drawn YOUR OWN conclusions from YOUR OPINION, and now you state them as fact. How LAME. How COMPLETELY UN-SCIENTIFIC. LAME. LAME. LAME. LAME. LAME. OP, you have NOTHING. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what use is eyewitness accounts from brain washed astronauts? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775486That's just YOUR OPINION, NOT FACT. PROVE that they were brainwashed. The onus is on YOU to PROVE YOUR case, not on them to do anything. I am still waiting for an explanation on how they survived. They don't need to explain anything. YOU need to PROVE your case with FACTS. Your OPINION isn't worth anything. I am not going to answer hollow arguments. If I could prove they were brainwashed would I be here? I can only prove that there is such a thing as mind control, and I can offer the scenario that would fit all factors. With regards to the survival of men in deep space: unless you tell me exactly why the several scientific studies that show the lethal emissions from the Sun beyond Earth´s protective atmosphere AND the segment by NASA acknowledging this are all wrong and deep space is safe enough for 18 humans with minimal shielding to travel in you will not be debated further. You too did not watch the segments did you, so why exactly should I have the courtesy to answer your hollow arguments? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mind control methods can be researched freely. A good start would be Cathy O´ Brian and the book Tranceformation of America. Available online somewhere. Quoting: EdenSO WHAT if they "can be researched freely" !!!! So what, that doesn't PROVE anything. PROVE that the astronauts were mind controlled. Provide EVIDENCE, not CONJECTURE. |
Eden (OP) User ID: 638592 Spain 09/20/2009 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The radiation evidence speaks for itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775486This is total bullshit. It DOES NOT speak for itself. YOU have drawn YOUR OWN conclusions from YOUR OPINION, and now you state them as fact. How LAME. How COMPLETELY UN-SCIENTIFIC. LAME. LAME. LAME. LAME. LAME. OP, you have NOTHING. Here, have a napkin. Finished? Now watch and learn. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775486 United States 09/20/2009 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not going to answer hollow arguments. Quoting: EdenAh, when asked to actually PROVE anything, as with most conspiracy theorists, you retreat to your corner. If I could prove they were brainwashed would I be here? Quoting: EdenIrrelevant. I can only prove that there is such a thing as mind control, and I can offer the scenario that would fit all factors. Quoting: EdenAgain irrelevant. I agree that mind control exists. So what ? |