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What's the point of reincarnation?

 
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What's the point of reincarnation?
I have never bought into this reincarnation theory. How can you possible learn from your mistakes if you have no memory of those mistakes?

It is similar to your child getting hurt by touching the stove, you tell him not to and the next day the child has no memory of that event so makes the same mistake over and over.

What would be the point other than just recycling "souls" of reincarnation if you have no memory of past mistakes?

How can you advance to another level if you have no memory of a previous one? Again similar to trying to get to the 12th grade with no memory of what you learned in grades 1-11.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Yep, I agree.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Because your "soul" retains the memory, not your brain.
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I think the wheel is a trap, and yes you come back but not to learn...to use your energy to feed and manifest this universe. The whole karma thing is another distraction, although there is certainly karma and equilibrium, its not how the 'enlightened juans' have presented it. They dont want us to remember.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Maybe there are only a finate number of souls, maybe life is all about generating 'experiances' - who knows!
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
It is merely yet another attempt to evade, avoid and deny God.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Because your "soul" retains the memory, not your brain.
 Quoting: Full Circle


+1
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Because your "soul" retains the memory, not your brain.


+1
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But if that were true, why do we still have people committing murder? Surly these people can't all be new 'souls'.

And what does the soul do with all those memories if they aren't useful in the world you are currently reincarnated in?
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
you're thoughts are ego driven, you see the material world as something more than a place of learning. expand your
intent towards infinite possibilities. this is a long road of understanding, be patient my friend.
and welcome to GLP.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Because your "soul" retains the memory, not your brain.


+1


But if that were true, why do we still have people committing murder? Surly these people can't all be new 'souls'.

And what does the soul do with all those memories if they aren't useful in the world you are currently reincarnated in?
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I can't explain it to you. It's for you to find answers to the questions you have. The most important thing is to keep asking questions.
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Reincarnation was created for control - WE have perfected ourselves and shall rule over YOU who can't seem to get it right. Caste system.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
There is no reincarnation.
There are no ghosts. You cannot communicate with your lost loved ones. You can contact the spirit world and they are the demons who have no possession of bodies and they are old and practiced liars lying in wait for beckoning to deceive the naive. They have been here for eternity and know all the right things to say to you to make you think they are who you long to hear from. God placed a barrier to protect us which is why we are not to dabgle in the occult.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
The most important thing is to keep asking questions.
 Quoting: Full Circle

No, the most important thing is to seek the answers to those questions.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
The most important thing is to keep asking questions.

No, the most important thing is to seek the answers to those questions.
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lol...well if you stop asking questions, you stop seeking answers!

So the most important thing is to ask questions!
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
The most important thing is to keep asking questions.

No, the most important thing is to seek the answers to those questions.



lol...well if you stop asking questions, you stop seeking answers!

So the most important thing is to ask questions!
 Quoting: Full Circle

be the neo seeking truth. what is the matrix?
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Reincarnation doesn't explain how or when new souls are created. If no new souls are ever created, then that is a stagnant universe, which is not possible.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
It is deception.

One of many, and any serve the purposes of the Deceiver.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Reincarnation doesn't explain how or when new souls are created. If no new souls are ever created, then that is a stagnant universe, which is not possible.
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Reincarnation doesn't have to explain how or when new souls are created. All it explains is the journey of the soul.

But you're right. A stagnant universe is not possible.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
I have never bought into this reincarnation theory. How can you possible learn from your mistakes if you have no memory of those mistakes?

It is similar to your child getting hurt by touching the stove, you tell him not to and the next day the child has no memory of that event so makes the same mistake over and over.

What would be the point other than just recycling "souls" of reincarnation if you have no memory of past mistakes?


How can you advance to another level if you have no memory of a previous one? Again similar to trying to get to the 12th grade with no memory of what you learned in grades 1-11.
 Quoting: Huntress



Because BRAIN memory and deeper non physical memories are not the same.

If you died at age 2 years old would you see the point of reincarnation?

Do you see the point for someone who lives a live in slavery?

You have no idea whether it's real or not. Remain a healthy skeptic.

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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Reincarnation is a mathematical logical absurdity. You haven't thought it through.

But that's not the point.
The point is to believe anything else but God.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Isn't reincarnation merely a religious way of explaining the journey of the soul, since man can't see the soul's journey up through the higher planes of the afterlife, or the religion doesn't want its followers to think on higher things than earthly.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Six billion or so souls alive now.

There were not six billion before that.

Or before that, and so on, and so on...

And were did those souls come from anyway...


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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Reincarnation is a mathematical logical absurdity. You haven't thought it through.

But that's not the point.
The point is to believe anything else but God.
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you never give thought to how Carl Sagan believed that the earth has been visited tens of thousands of times. think of all the other life forms out there. the ones you can not see because they are on a different wavelength.
We have finally come back to the pre-Socratic philosopher Heraclitus, who said everything is flow, flux, process. There are no "things." Bruce Lee
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examples of those beyond our wavelength of observation.



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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
I think the wheel is a trap, and yes you come back but not to learn...to use your energy to feed and manifest this universe. The whole karma thing is another distraction, although there is certainly karma and equilibrium, its not how the 'enlightened juans' have presented it. They dont want us to remember.
 Quoting: Psychic Soldier



I think you are basically right. The wheel has been a stuck wheel on this planet. Yes, there is karma of sorts and balance as you say and less now than before for those enlightened and aware. More so for those minds who are stuck.

The soul captures the experience and holds it for us to use so that our present consciousness can draw the memory of it into our reality, when in essence, all is past, present and future. We are trapped in a linear time space but when we make our transition, we are in quantum. The trick I think is to draw on quantum with our consciousness.

Many of us remember past lives, as I do. Maybe not in great detail, but enough. Emotion accompanies it. So, it would be folly to think it does not occur. There are children born who remember everything. There are child prodigy's who sit at a piano and play like Mozart without training. There are events all over the world that support reincarnation, not just in our English way of thinking.

The whole documentation of reincarnation was extracted from the Bible by the Pope Queen Theodora in the early centuries. That is a fact. You can google that and research that fact that she was the one who edited the Bible for political reasons. It was an unholy time then.

Kryon has repeatedly said that we can undo our own karma from the distant past simply by acknowledging we can. We CAN live better lives through a modulation of our present consciousness. Garbage in Garbage out.

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I think the wheel is a trap, and yes you come back but not to learn...to use your energy to feed and manifest this universe. The whole karma thing is another distraction, although there is certainly karma and equilibrium, its not how the 'enlightened juans' have presented it. They dont want us to remember.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Reincarnation is a mathematical logical absurdity. You haven't thought it through.

But that's not the point.
The point is to believe anything else but God.

you never give thought to how Carl Sagan believed that the earth has been visited tens of thousands of times. think of all the other life forms out there. the ones you can not see because they are on a different wavelength.
 Quoting: neteru<>

You have NO idea of what I have and have not considered.

There is ZERO evidence of any other life out there.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
Reincarnation is a mathematical logical absurdity. You haven't thought it through.

But that's not the point.
The point is to believe anything else but God.

you never give thought to how Carl Sagan believed that the earth has been visited tens of thousands of times. think of all the other life forms out there. the ones you can not see because they are on a different wavelength.

You have NO idea of what I have and have not considered.

There is ZERO evidence of any other life out there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768019


That's true too. It is all speculation. There is NO physical evidence for other life "out there".

But what one CAN consider is the spiritual/paranormal experiences they have and consider what they mean to the individual.

This is why you get some who say they have "alien" contact, and others who say they have seen "Jesus in all his glory". The experience is understood within the confines of the experiencer's mind and belief system. But most likely, these are the same phenomenon being experienced as different.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
I think the wheel is a trap, and yes you come back but not to learn...to use your energy to feed and manifest this universe. The whole karma thing is another distraction, although there is certainly karma and equilibrium, its not how the 'enlightened juans' have presented it. They dont want us to remember.


bump

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Absolutely! The Earth is simply a PRISON where your energy is drained from you lifetime after lifetime to sustain parasitic beings in another dimension. Your memory is wiped before birth for good reason- so you never understand or question your reality and live out your short and dull life while unknowingly being an energetic food source.

IMO, your entire purpose in this life is to wake up to understand the true nature of reality while doing your best to help others. A massive awakeing is taking place on Earth right now, and TPTB know it and fear the sheep becoming lions. I believe the reincarnation cycle has been broken, and we won't be playing this sick game next lifetime.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
How can you possible learn from your mistakes if you have no memory of those mistakes?
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bingo.
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Re: What's the point of reincarnation?
I think the wheel is a trap, and yes you come back but not to learn...to use your energy to feed and manifest this universe. The whole karma thing is another distraction, although there is certainly karma and equilibrium, its not how the 'enlightened juans' have presented it. They dont want us to remember.


bump

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Absolutely! The Earth is simply a PRISON where your energy is drained from you lifetime after lifetime to sustain parasitic beings in another dimension. Your memory is wiped before birth for good reason- so you never understand or question your reality and live out your short and dull life while unknowingly being an energetic food source.

IMO, your entire purpose in this life is to wake up to understand the true nature of reality while doing your best to help others. A massive awakeing is taking place on Earth right now, and TPTB know it and fear the sheep becoming lions. I believe the reincarnation cycle has been broken, and we won't be playing this sick game next lifetime.
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Not bad.





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