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Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 776636
 United States
9/21/2009 9:41 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
well, it all started with the dracos and continues with them..there is no other choice but to try and find peace until we cycle into the E.T. life |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
 Canada
9/21/2009 9:46 PM
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Okay. It's fine by me if people have the understanding that they are not from this planet. And all that stuff.
That's not the point. ALL is one, no matter where they are in the Universe.
ALL is ONE.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 776303
 United Kingdom
9/21/2009 10:03 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
The reason for your confusion is because you assume that what we are, is anything to do with what you call nature, ie the web of stable biological patterns that we are embedded in - but not part of, just as biological world is embedded within the energy patterns that make up the physical world. It is a separate 'pattern' entirely that has - eventualy wrested control from and uses the physical world for it's own purposes - changing and regulating the entire planet in fact!
Though it is true you inhabit a body - it is a part of a slowly evolving 'biological pattern' that is billions of years old.
Your social self is part of a recent developement - that your biological body has hardly had time to notice even exists - it developed you, initialy as a control and regulatory mechanism - though you have since flourished and now have the audacity to posit yourself as 'the one' - it's all about you now isn't it!
Anyway - that was all about the astral planes descending into the biological pattern.
Then the mental/ethical planes - to give you yet another newer 'self'
Guess what happens next! |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/21/2009 10:09 PM
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The reason for your confusion is because you assume that what we are, is anything to do with what you call nature, ie the web of stable biological patterns that we are embedded in - but not part of, just as biological world is embedded within the energy patterns that make up the physical world. It is a separate 'pattern' entirely that has - eventualy wrested control from and uses the physical world for it's own purposes - changing and regulating the entire planet in fact!
Though it is true you inhabit a body - it is a part of a slowly evolving 'biological pattern' that is billions of years old.
Your social self is part of a recent developement - that your biological body has hardly had time to notice even exists - it developed you, initialy as a control and regulatory mechanism - though you have since flourished and now have the audacity to posit yourself as 'the one' - it's all about you now isn't it!
Anyway - that was all about the astral planes descending into the biological pattern.
Then the mental/ethical planes - to give you yet another newer 'self'
Guess what happens next! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776303
And that's also a lovely way to explain it all away.
It's not real. It's "embedded". A separate pattern.
Be careful about being too egotistic.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 765672
United Kingdom
9/21/2009 10:10 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
So you are saying there is no way that we can "remember"? Quoting: Full Circle
Perhaps, though at least now we have ways to capture the memory of the consequences of our actions more easily, with pictures and film.
For instance i believe the invention of photography and film have prevented countless wars in the west because it can depict the savage consequences of it, rather that the romanticized words of TPTB that dragged millions to their deaths for petty needs of kings, emperors and governments. Still i admit it hasn't prevent war but generally speaking the reasoning behind them has become more 'sensible'.
Perhaps this could be applied to our interaction with nature, to preserve the errors of the present for future generations. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 776636
United States
9/21/2009 10:18 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
Okay. It's fine by me if people have the understanding that they are not from this planet. And all that stuff.
That's not the point. ALL is one, no matter where they are in the Universe.
ALL is ONE. Quoting: Full Circle
What if you knocked on somebody's door and said, "excuse me, did you know that we are one? I mean, that you are me are of the same essence, Isn't that great, sir?" |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/21/2009 10:20 PM
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Perhaps, though at least now we have ways to capture the memory of the consequences of our actions more easily, with pictures and film.
For instance i believe the invention of photography and film have prevented countless wars in the west because it can depict the savage consequences of it, rather that the romanticized words of TPTB that dragged millions to their deaths for petty needs of kings, emperors and governments. Still i admit it hasn't prevent war but generally speaking the reasoning behind them has become more 'sensible'.
Perhaps this could be applied to our interaction with nature, to preserve the errors of the present for future generations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 765672
Well maybe that's what I see when I look at these two videos together.
When I see the first one, I see the beauty and joy of life, and I have compassion for that life that we are destroying through greed and entitlement.
Then I look at the second video, and I see the sorrow and sadness of mankind and it's inability to live and let live on this planet. I feel sorry for those girls with their backpacks surrounded by tanks. Because of greed and entitlement.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/21/2009 10:22 PM
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Okay. It's fine by me if people have the understanding that they are not from this planet. And all that stuff.
That's not the point. ALL is one, no matter where they are in the Universe.
ALL is ONE.
What if you knocked on somebody's door and said, "excuse me, did you know that we are one? I mean, that you are me are of the same essence, Isn't that great, sir?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776636
Believe it or not, I point it out in my own way to people I know in real life. Every day.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Is it better to ride the wave, or be the wave? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 776636
United States
9/21/2009 10:27 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
Okay. It's fine by me if people have the understanding that they are not from this planet. And all that stuff.
That's not the point. ALL is one, no matter where they are in the Universe.
ALL is ONE.
What if you knocked on somebody's door and said, "excuse me, did you know that we are one? I mean, that you are me are of the same essence, Isn't that great, sir?"
Believe it or not, I point it out in my own way to people I know in real life. Every day. Quoting: Full Circle
No, I believe you, i think that's awesome. and we're definately getting the level up (thanks to people like you)
Did you know that the earth was once all water? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 776636
United States
9/21/2009 10:33 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
We were placed here with the intention of one day working out our dualities so that that we could ascend into the the one true place where we came from |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/21/2009 10:37 PM
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Okay. It's fine by me if people have the understanding that they are not from this planet. And all that stuff.
That's not the point. ALL is one, no matter where they are in the Universe.
ALL is ONE.
What if you knocked on somebody's door and said, "excuse me, did you know that we are one? I mean, that you are me are of the same essence, Isn't that great, sir?"
Believe it or not, I point it out in my own way to people I know in real life. Every day.
No, I believe you, i think that's awesome. and we're definately getting the level up (thanks to people like you)
Did you know that the earth was once all water? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776636
Well thanks. But everyone is people like me. I am no different.
I would certainly believe that this was once all water. I had a dream once of life on a water planet. It was incredibly vivid and real. I even recall the instrument I used to play. lol but that would be for another thread I guess.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Is it better to ride the wave, or be the wave? |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/21/2009 10:38 PM
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We were placed here with the intention of one day working out our dualities so that that we could ascend into the the one true place where we came from Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776636
I can understand that. So are you saying that nothing here matters? We just step on it to clamor our way to the top?
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Is it better to ride the wave, or be the wave? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 775009
United States
9/21/2009 10:44 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
I own a small lot of nature. Built a house on it. Developed it, and improved it. |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/21/2009 10:45 PM
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I own a small lot of nature. Built a house on it. Developed it, and improved it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775009
Developed it how? Improved it how? I'm curious. I would love to go out and live in nature. As naturally as possible.
Last Edited by Full Circle on 9/21/2009 at 10:46 PM
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Is it better to ride the wave, or be the wave? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 753903
United States
9/21/2009 11:38 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
As you can see. All the replies you got have different ideas and nobody really agrees with each other. This is one of the reasons why we can't live with nature in harmony. However, this is perfect reason why we are actually live in harmony with the nature. It's just we are self recognition being who does not bow to anyone else but self.
This isn't a simple issue to talk about. However, if you start to see things it wasn't so hard of an issue to talk about. Because once you understand, it becomes easy. It's the process of understanding that is hard.
Having a question is always good. However, remember this. Your way may not be always correct. Same goes to me as well.
Peace. |
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BOWMAN 
Something Wonderful
User ID: 776556
United States
9/21/2009 11:43 PM
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Well, it seems that humans have been singled out here on this planet to experience what we are going through as far as how we feel about nature and whether or not we are acting responsibly towards it.
I think most people, though they do recognize that we are not acting responsible towards nature in general, are not doing something about it to the degree that the situation calls for.
But there's been alot more awareness toward the issue the last 10 years or so. Some politically motivated, some financially motivated, and some genuine.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 638079
United States
9/22/2009 1:48 AM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
Because we were given a purpose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581488
And this purpose is..?
Destroying the planet?
Making it a living hell for every other species? |
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Full Circle
User ID: 772400
Canada
9/22/2009 12:13 PM
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Having a question is always good. However, remember this. Your way may not be always correct. Same goes to me as well.
Peace. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 753903
Exactly. That's why it's important to respect another's path. And allow them to travel it.
My path is the only correct one for me.
Peace to you!
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
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Is it better to ride the wave, or be the wave? |
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rosyshadow
User ID: 771738
United States
9/22/2009 12:47 PM | | Re: Why Can't Humans fit in with Nature? | Quote |
alien origins? |
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MarkusMaximus
User ID: 148742
United States
9/22/2009 1:07 PM
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Having a question is always good. However, remember this. Your way may not be always correct. Same goes to me as well.
Peace.
Exactly. That's why it's important to respect another's path. And allow them to travel it.
My path is the only correct one for me.
Peace to you! Quoting: Full Circle
Hey FC. It's because the ones who've been taught to stand in single file lines all their lives are the first to get uncomfortable when someone around them leaves the line.
They've been taught that leaving the line ends in disaster. It really scews with their heads when it doesn't end in disaster for the out-of-liners, as this also threatens their current perspective of the world. |
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