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Why does God send people to burn forever if they don't accept Jesus?

 
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Actually, if god knows the the end from the beginning (all knowing) then he knew before he created us where we would end up (hell or heaven)and if this is the case then some of us were created for hell and some for heaven.If you disagree with the latter part of this statement then you are denying that god is all knowing.The scriptures in the bible says he is
therefore the first part of this statement must be true.Just a thought.
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then what if God destined you to hell...?
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Then he would be worse than hitler,don't you think? None of us asked to be created so why would he create me to spend eternity in everlasting torment.No matter what I do I will end up in hell because I was created to go there.Do you people actually think that god is that cruel? We think hitler was sick but god is all so loving and I think we are all misunderstanding
the scriptures if we think god would do such a thing.
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you just answer that no matter what I do I will end up in hell because I was created to go there, how you explain that if God isn;t that cruel, you would be burning pnan forever and forever while everyone is happy up there because they was created to be there?

This isn't right
 Quoting: 34

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If you are the least bit concerned about this most grave matter, then, Fear God and obey His Ten Commandments while adhering to the Teachings of His well beloved Son, Jesus Christ. You may very well not be one of those which were "created to go there"
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If a law is unjust, you are not only right to break it, you are obligated to do so.

Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?
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Only a scared heartless evil sick pathetic wretch would even ever PONDER eternal hellfire.

The Old Testament says NOTHING about heaven or hell, it's a FREAKAZOID PARANOID fabrication and only sick sick sick people entertain the idea.

Christians are SICK SICK SICK SICK people. Imagine telling your kids, if they don't believe this story, they will burn forever in hell with the devil.

SICK SICK SICK.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Hell the word may not exist in there but it is there, new name old name still the same.


8It is high as heaven; what canst thou do? Deeper than the nether-world; what canst thou know?

8 It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?
Job 11:8 (KJV)
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Imagine telling them there is no hope, once they die there is nothing,

No wonder people have abortions, want to have euthanasia,

I am surprised more Nazis have not sprung up. Oh that's right they lost now their ideas are taken on by others, they just don't call themselves that.

But they still believe in evolution, eugenics, and the core ideas.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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buddhists, muslims, hindus, atheists and all other types go to heaven, regardless of if they accept jesus or not.

your statement is false duder.
 Quoting: nicole



Well lets go over this very odd statement?


you see if things are your way nicole.


We both die

I go to heaven--yeah

You go to heaven-- Yeah


BUT IF YOUR WRONG AND YOU HAVEN'T ACCEPTED CHRIST

We both die


I go to heaven ----Yeah


YOU GO TO HELL------ dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3






So if you like those odds let me know how it works out for ya..
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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god wants al lof his little children to burn baby burn... according to christians anyway
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god wants al lof his little children to burn baby burn... according to christians anyway
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YES YOUR GOD SATAN WANTS THAT. AND YOUR HATRED OF CHRISTIANS IS PROOF
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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god wants al lof his little children to burn baby burn... according to christians anyway
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Actually, it's the devil's children.
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In my several months of reading and posting here, this is the saddest, sickest thread about Hell, Jesus, God I have yet to read. It never ceases to amaze me as the end times approach, how much worse organized religion is affecting people's ability to reason.
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In my several months of reading and posting here, this is the saddest, sickest thread about Hell, Jesus, God I have yet to read. It never ceases to amaze me as the end times approach, how much worse organized religion is affecting people's ability to reason.
 Quoting: Candace



Thinking it doesn't exist doesn't make it go away.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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God doesn't send you to burn, you send yourself to burn by rejecting Christ's sacrifice for you.

Christ took on ALL sin when he was crucified on the cross.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

John 3:16-19

May the Holy Spirit open your eyes and heart so that your questions may be answered, and His Truth can set you free.

i am praying for you.
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Because his creators wrote it into his script??
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God doesn't send you to burn, you send yourself to burn by rejecting Christ's sacrifice for you.

Christ took on ALL sin when he was crucified on the cross.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

John 3:16-19

May the Holy Spirit open your eyes and heart so that your questions may be answered, and His Truth can set you free.

i am praying for you.
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That's all I live for now. I have forgiven my enemies. To unleash God's wrath upon them, in order to watch their suffering & misery, when Karma & judgment engulfs there souls for there iniquities. When they will B tormented to the point they will awake every day wishing for death, & in death they will B wishing for eternity to stop. I shall enjoy their show , just as they have enjoyed mine.
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In my several months of reading and posting here, this is the saddest, sickest thread about Hell, Jesus, God I have yet to read. It never ceases to amaze me as the end times approach, how much worse organized religion is affecting people's ability to reason.
 Quoting: Candace


you have so much anger in your heart, for one who wants to heal the world. your desire for 'messianic missions' is admirable, but our world is past saving. God has let mankind run it since the Fall, and man has never been able to heal the world; because man is not perfect, no matter how good his intentions and dreams may be. sin will continue to poison this planet until the Lord Jesus returns to earth to destroy satan. only then will the earth be reborn.
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PREACHER BOB... hahahaha, NO
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that is all..
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What do you think Jesus really meant by to burn eternally? He didn't mean that you will go to hell he only meant that you won't realize your full potential and thus you will be left with the thought that you could have tried harder and gained more leaving you with a feeling of angst knowing that you missed out on something even greater than what you earned. Eternity is a long time and you will have plenty of moments to think about your choices which will follow you forever. Our biggest judge is ourselves and we will be our own condemners.
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That's all I live for now. I have forgiven my enemies. To unleash God's wrath upon them, in order to watch their suffering & misery, when Karma & judgment engulfs there souls for there iniquities. When they will B tormented to the point they will awake every day wishing for death, & in death they will B wishing for eternity to stop. I shall enjoy their show , just as they have enjoyed mine.
 Quoting: "The One Bee"


if you would rejoice in your enemies' suffering, perhaps you have not fully forgiven them?

it is human nature to want to see those who hurt us get their just desserts, you can't deny that.

but Jesus said for us to love our enemies...not that's it's easy to do, mind you. in fact, it's impossible without His help.

i will pray that God will heal your pain and that the Holy Spirit will indeed be your Comforter. (hug)
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What do you think Jesus really meant by to burn eternally? He didn't mean that you will go to hell he only meant that you won't realize your full potential and thus you will be left with the thought that you could have tried harder and gained more leaving you with a feeling of angst knowing that you missed out on something even greater than what you earned. Eternity is a long time and you will have plenty of moments to think about your choices which will follow you forever. Our biggest judge is ourselves and we will be our own condemners.
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Hell is real. people already torment themselves here on earth, realizing they haven't reached their full potential, feeling guilt and regret...

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

—Revelation 20:9-15


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Pop quiz:

What is it that scripture says leads us to redemption?


What is it that scripture says casts out fear?


What did God tell Adam would happen if he ate of the forbidden fruit?


What did Jesus say to the woman caught in the act of adultery?


Who did Jesus call a "brood of vipers"?
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What do you think Jesus really meant by to burn eternally? He didn't mean that you will go to hell he only meant that you won't realize your full potential and thus you will be left with the thought that you could have tried harder and gained more leaving you with a feeling of angst knowing that you missed out on something even greater than what you earned. Eternity is a long time and you will have plenty of moments to think about your choices which will follow you forever. Our biggest judge is ourselves and we will be our own condemners.


Hell is real. people already torment themselves here on earth, realizing they haven't reached their full potential, feeling guilt and regret...

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

—Revelation 20:9-15


[link to www.scripturemenu.com]
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Yeah thats what i mean we create our own hells and it is real.
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Actually, if god knows the the end from the beginning (all knowing) then he knew before he created us where we would end up (hell or heaven)and if this is the case then some of us were created for hell and some for heaven.If you disagree with the latter part of this statement then you are denying that god is all knowing.The scriptures in the bible says he is
therefore the first part of this statement must be true.Just a thought.
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then what if God destined you to hell...?
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Then he would be worse than hitler,don't you think? None of us asked to be created so why would he create me to spend eternity in everlasting torment.No matter what I do I will end up in hell because I was created to go there.Do you people actually think that god is that cruel? We think hitler was sick but god is all so loving and I think we are all misunderstanding
the scriptures if we think god would do such a thing.
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you just answer that no matter what I do I will end up in hell because I was created to go there, how you explain that if God isn;t that cruel, you would be burning pnan forever and forever while everyone is happy up there because they was created to be there?

This isn't right

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If you are the least bit concerned about this most grave matter, then, Fear God and obey His Ten Commandments while adhering to the Teachings of His well beloved Son, Jesus Christ. You may very well not be one of those which were "created to go there"
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My point is,is that we on this earth have a misunderstanding of what hell is and who goes there.
My question to you and anyone else is.
Since god is all knowing does he know before he created us where we would end up?
Yes- means,by his decision some are created to everlasting torment (hell) others to everlasting bliss(heaven)
No- means he is not all knowing.

Now,of the people here who believe in god would also have to believe that god is not that cruel,he loves us.So my point again is,is that we have a misunderstanding of hell and who goes there.
Come judgment day god is going to ask some,do you understand the scriptures?the way I wrote them, fully?
Then why did you go around hoping to scare people into believing in jesus.Now they come unto me with a solidified heart despising my gift. Could you or anyone else live out eternity with this guilt? Hence,I believe the burning lake of fire ,gnashing of teeth etc..not literal burning in hell forever and ever.Besides whats that gonna do to me? I can't die I'm immortal.Don't know for sure but I probably wouldn't get hungry or feel pain either.So I suggest if people don't want to live out eternity where ever it is with this guilt of disappointing god by scaring people with their un-knowledge of the scriptures to keep that part of it to themselves.Remember god is listening.
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Jesus is a made up story. If his teachings were anything,

if he was even a teacher AT ALL,

Paul would have talked about HIS teachings.


You are mistaken in your beliefs ...

Paul's Writings:
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Your post was a whole lot of nothing. Quote one verse where Paul says what Jesus taught. ZERO. What Jesus taught DID NOT EXIST when Paul was alive because Jesus WAS NOT a teacher. If he was, it was not in any signficant sense of the word.

Jesus' "teachings" were MANUFACTURED and LIFTED from other pre-existing teachings, HISTORIANS agree, that what "Jesus said" was already being said, BEFORE HE LIVED.

Jesus was 99% odds a rebel in the line of David, heroic on a small scale to his followers, the Romans killed him and nixed the big, GOD WILL DEVLIVER US, faith based rebellion.

Once the Jews realized AGAIN that they are NOT God's chosen people, that their religion is STUPID, they rewrote their religion. Duh, to keep up with the Jones's, you know, the spiritual stuff, you know, kinda like New Agers teach.

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buddhists, muslims, hindus, atheists and all other types go to heaven, regardless of if they accept jesus or not.

your statement is false duder.



Well lets go over this very odd statement?


you see if things are your way nicole.


We both die

I go to heaven--yeah

You go to heaven-- Yeah


BUT IF YOUR WRONG AND YOU HAVEN'T ACCEPTED CHRIST

We both die


I go to heaven ----Yeah


YOU GO TO HELL------ dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3dead3






So if you like those odds let me know how it works out for ya..
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are you honestly claiming heaven is only composed of christians? you sir are not a true christian then....
"If you have it, you don't need to have anything else, and if you don't have it, it doesn't matter much what else you have." - Sir James M. Barrie

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"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson

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PREACHER BOB... hahahaha, NO
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preacher bob needs our help. his life revolves around a book telling him he's going to hell unless he follows that book. our condolences preacher bob.
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preacher bob needs our help. his life revolves around a book telling him he's going to hell unless he follows that book. our condolences preacher bob.
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seriously..you'd have to be really sick to think good men, women and children of other faiths, god's people, you're own brothers and sisters are restricted from peace and cast into hell simply because they do not take chirst as their savior.

good deeds and karma get you "into" heaven, not the man you worship.
"If you have it, you don't need to have anything else, and if you don't have it, it doesn't matter much what else you have." - Sir James M. Barrie

"The undisturbed mind is like the calm body water reflecting the brilliance of the moon. Empty the mind and you will realize the undisturbed mind." - Yagyu Jubei

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." -Albert Einstein

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Re: Why does God send people to burn forever if they don't accept Jesus?
Pop quiz:

What is it that scripture says leads us to redemption?
God's goodness. Not damnation, or judgment, or anything else.


What is it that scripture says casts out fear?
Perfect love.


What did God tell Adam would happen if he ate of the forbidden fruit?
He would die. No mention of any kind of afterlife.


What did Jesus say to the woman caught in the act of adultery?
"Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more".
Not one word about an afterlife. No warning. No nothing.


Who did Jesus call a "brood of vipers"?
The Pharisees, the hard-hearted religious men who take pride in their status, and who lay excessive burdens upon others who aren't as "holy" as they.
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he dosent send you to burn if you dont know about him, kinda silly but religion if for children. good story but thats allt here is to it.

And christianity is all based from fear.
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Re: Why does God send people to burn forever if they don't accept Jesus?
He doesn't send anybody to burn forever nohow.

That's a myth.

People do that to themselves when they realize Guilt they cannot absolve themselves from.

God is merciful and kind. People who don't accept Jesus simply get recycled with new names.

Believers get their names and memories saved to disk, so they can "live on" and not have to "begin again from the beginning."

The myths that get taught in Church are fairly horrendous, almost as bad as the myths taught by NASA or by your local University Science Department.
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LOL
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I feel extreme sorrow for those who lack the intelligence or insight to discard and to still believe in such archaic doctrines!!
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All the Generational Satanist (Nephilim) feel the same exact way as you. Funny, how you continue to deny that you are a tool of theirs.
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