The H1N1 Virus is in the Seasonal Flu Vaccine!!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 261361 Brazil 09/22/2009 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How are influenza viruses named? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 730536All viruses contain genetic material wrapped in a protein coat. Influenza viruses are separated into types based on two of the proteins in this coat: hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N). Strains of influenza viruses are named according to the type of H and N proteins that they contain as well as where they occur. For example, the strain of greatest current concern around the world is known as Eurasian H5N1. In addition, the mortality that strains cause in chickens is an indication of “high” or “low” pathogenicity (often shortened to high path or low path). Eurasian H5N1 is highly pathogenic to poultry. However, there are other strains of H5N1 that are not high path. [link to www.srd.gov.ab.ca] Any flu with H1N1 will be called that but this new swine flu will also be indentified with where it originated and often the year. The H1N1 in the seasonal flu is not the swine flu one but apparently one from Brisbayne in 2007. H1N1 only refers to the proteins in any strain that has those two types of protein in their construction. There are many that do, not just swine flu. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada 09/23/2009 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that both seasonal flu and swine flu are both h1n1. There is different levels of h1n1. Maybe I am wrong on that. Quoting: mopar28mThat mercury dose is terrible. Think of the young kids who are recommended to get 2 seasonal and 2 swine flu shots all within weeks of each other. They are not touching my kids that is for sure. A toxic dose of mercury is 20 mcg. And there is 25 mcg of mercury in each shot of this vaccine??!!?? They are being so blatant! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 550635 United States 09/23/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Safety and effectiveness of Fluzone have not been established in pregnant women or nursing mothers or children <6 months of age." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777233Great, pregnant women first in line, toddlers next! I'm willing to bet these shots make people sterile too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada 09/23/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just don't take the fuckin shot!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Dovespirit 777895It's not that easy especially military personel and their families. I have been researching exempt forms for the military haven't found anything yet. Guess that's what you get for joining, huh?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 730536 United States 09/23/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dozens of flus have H1N1 protein coverings. It's what is inside that makes you sick or not. Not all H1N1 flus are swine flu. I am only trying to tell you how flus are named and numbered and for this I get called a shill. I couldn't care less whether or not you take this vaccine but at least try to understand that the regular flu vaccine does NOT have swine flu in it. That's another H1N1 flu from Australia. I think swine flu will be called Mexican or at least 2009 H1N1. And I am probably just wasting my time trying to explain that there are dozens in this category besides swine. But it's called biology. Check it out for yourselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada 09/23/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Safety and effectiveness of Fluzone have not been established in pregnant women or nursing mothers or children <6 months of age." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635Great, pregnant women first in line, toddlers next! I'm willing to bet these shots make people sterile too. Well now, that's more what the HPV vaccine is designed for. This one is just designed to kill your immune system. |
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coyote User ID: 674004 United States 09/23/2009 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | about 8 years ago I got a flu shot... got very sick and noticed my hair thinned out that year... I was horrified. I have since NEVER taken another "flu" shot, nor will I. My hair is back to normal. I believe the high mercury levels in these type of shots are what caused the thinning since my doctor had recommended that I stop eating tuna due to high mercury levels (we are talking maybe one or two tuna sandwiches a week)... FLU shots are poison. |
Pondlady02 RN User ID: 719487 United States 09/23/2009 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe "toxic" doses of mercury are measured in mg per KILO of body weight. We have not received ANY "Swine Flu" vaccine at our hospital. They are suppose to arrive toward mid to late October. Also, got a flyer asking nurses if they want seasonal work to administer flu shots toward the mid to end of October. I already got my seasonal flu shot and pneumonia shot and a tetanus booster, over two weeks ago. I have not gotten the "new" vaccine. |
coyote User ID: 674004 United States 09/23/2009 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Safety and effectiveness of Fluzone have not been established in pregnant women or nursing mothers or children <6 months of age." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 526155Great, pregnant women first in line, toddlers next! I'm willing to bet these shots make people sterile too. Well now, that's more what the HPV vaccine is designed for. This one is just designed to kill your immune system. Of course they make you sterile... and all the estrogen flushed down the toilet (and back into the water system) from women being on the pill is what's making men sick... why the surge in prostate cancer and viagra meds? It actually comes down to morality. We've created the beast... innoculating young girls for HPV when we should be teaching them to keep their legs closed until marriage. Ever notice how many women need fertility help these days? Do you know how expensive that process is? And most insurance does not cover it in full. Women have spent their lives taking the pill to keep from getting pregnant only to realize later in life their bodies have been poisoned and are no longer fertile. And now we are amazed that the flu shots are poisoned? Last Edited by Holly on 09/23/2009 03:11 PM |
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tmm511 User ID: 735877 United States 09/23/2009 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just walked to the bottom floor of our office building and found this: Swine Flu Prevention Station: [link to i37.tinypic.com] Last Edited by tMm11 on 09/23/2009 02:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 719487 United States 09/23/2009 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just walked to the bottom floor of our office building and found this: Quoting: tmm511Swine Flu Prevention Station: [link to i37.tinypic.com] It looks like a cleansing stattion Hand Sanitizer Kleenes Face masks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 737050 United States 09/23/2009 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that both seasonal flu and swine flu are both h1n1. There is different levels of h1n1. Maybe I am wrong on that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 701285That mercury dose is terrible. Think of the young kids who are recommended to get 2 seasonal and 2 swine flu shots all within weeks of each other. They are not touching my kids that is for sure. A toxic dose of mercury is 20 mcg. And there is 25 mcg of mercury in each shot of this vaccine??!!?? While mercury is never good for you, you are mistaken about what constitutes a toxic dose. [link to en.wikipedia.org] LOL.. Wikipedia isn't God. It's barely truthful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 336381 United States 09/23/2009 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um...guys, if you go back and look at the photobucket document that was posted by OP, you'll notice that the 25mcg of mercury is in a multi-dose vial. How many shots come out of a multi-dose vial? Not that any amount of mercury injected into the body is a good thing, of course. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778029 United States 09/23/2009 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was out working my stores today, I was able to grab a patient information sheet from a flu shot clinic that is included with the vaccine that is normally thrown away. Quoting: mopar28mThis is from the vaccine "FluZone". The multi-dose vial contains 25 mcg of mercury (20 mcg is a toxic dose) AND contains the H1N1 & the H3N2 VIRUSES!!! I've got the pic scanned into my computer & will be posting as soon as I get it uploaded. Cant find any information at the epa.gov site in regards to "acceptable" levels of methyl mercury ingestion, but here is a link to PBS site that has .1 mcg/Kg. PBS link: [link to www.pbs.org] As far as lethal dose of mercury here is another link: [link to books.google.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777895 United States 09/23/2009 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just don't take the fuckin shot!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 526155It's not that easy especially military personel and their families. I have been researching exempt forms for the military haven't found anything yet. Guess that's what you get for joining, huh?! I didn't join |
Anonymous Hero User ID: 673285 United States 09/23/2009 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naw. Naw. First of all, about the micrograms of mercury. EPA states that 1 mcg per kg per day is the max for someone to eat. Under their guidlines, I should not eat more than 65 mcg of mercury per day. This is not talking about sticking a needle into your arm and injecting it directly into your blood stream. 20 mcg directly into your blood stream a day might actually be a fuck-a-ton too much. And we are talking about multi-dose vials here, and depending on the fluid dynamics of the suspension, it is possible that either the first or the last shot could contain a significantly higher amount of this shit. I can't give you any numbers or a link or anything, because I am just working from the understanding I have of chemistry, physics, and probability. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that a single dose coming from a multi-dose vial could contain as much as 35 mcg of mercury. Thats over half of what a toxic dose to eat would be. If anyone knows anything about potency of drugs based on route of entry, you know that smoking something is significantly more effective at saturating your blood stream than eating it is. And Mainlining something is 3 times as effective as smoking it!! SWIM says from personal experience that shooting something up is between 6 and 7 times as potent for him as parachuting it (basically eating it; wadded up in tissue and swallowing it). This is something else we are talking about, but basically all drugs and nutrients follow this same pattern, and I have absolutely no reason to doubt that mercury is the same way. So, I dunno, It seems to me that that a frikken' 35 mcg dose, or even the 25 mcg you are supposed to get, might be WAAAAAY too much. And the fact that it says on the side "Contains: ... (h1n1)", and that I'm not entirely clear on what that means exactly, tells me that injecting that shit into your bloodstream is probably a worse idea than not injecting it. Don't even bother trying to tell me what that means, because I know that you don't know either. Nobody really knows except. It is a bunch of viral genetic material (which was, under certain circumstances, able to reproduce. How else do you think they made so much...), which may or may not be alive, which, when you are talking about viruses, is a very fuzzy distinction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 777888 Israel 09/23/2009 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old fillings have mercury in them, The half-life of mercury is 67 years in the human body. It accumulates in the neurons (nerve cell bodies). It is very difficult to get rid of. There is enough mercury in one amalgam filling that if it were extracted and put into a 10-acre lake, the EPA would shut down that lake due to contamination of the fish. Yet it has been OK for years to put into amalgam fillings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 714662I had 2 amalgam filling, the teeth just rotted away and the amalgams fell out(because the tooth was compromised anyway, i was eating quite alot of sweets.) I recall feeling much more sick before they fell out, like being sick all winter. |
machobird User ID: 752056 United States 09/23/2009 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think the seasonal flu shot had anything to do with her H1N1? Do you think she will recover fully? Do you think she will ever be able to have kids? Go figure. The parents who take their little kids for a seasonal flu vaccination are seriously misguided. machobird |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2886 United States 09/23/2009 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was out working my stores today, I was able to grab a patient information sheet from a flu shot clinic that is included with the vaccine that is normally thrown away. Quoting: mopar28mThis is from the vaccine "FluZone". The multi-dose vial contains 25 mcg of mercury (20 mcg is a toxic dose) AND contains the H1N1 & the H3N2 VIRUSES!!! I've got the pic scanned into my computer & will be posting as soon as I get it uploaded. Fluzone vaccine contains three inactivated (killed) influenza viruses: type A (H1N1), type A (H3N2), and type B1,2 [link to www.fluzone.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 770752 United States 09/23/2009 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was listening to talk radio this morning and the host was talking about the H1N1 issue. A caller said that after his little girl went for her seasonal flu shot last Wednesday, by Sunday she had a 104 degree fever. They took her to the ER and she was diagnosed with H1N1. When she went into the ER, everything seemed normal. When the staff came out to tell the parents their daughter had H1N1, they all were wearing masks and gloves. Gave her Tamiflu and sent her home. By this morning, no one else in the household (3 kids) had any symptoms and the little girl was doing a lot better. Quoting: machobird 752056Do you think the seasonal flu shot had anything to do with her H1N1? It is obvious... it is in the shot they gave her |
watchdog User ID: 466967 United States 09/23/2009 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um...guys, if you go back and look at the photobucket document that was posted by OP, you'll notice that the 25mcg of mercury is in a multi-dose vial. How many shots come out of a multi-dose vial? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381Not that any amount of mercury injected into the body is a good thing, of course. Look closely now... multi-dose vial contains 5ml: 250 mcg mercury single dose vial contains .5ml: 25 mcg mercury Says "Each 0.5 ml dose contains 25 mcg mercury." Last Edited by Mr. Natural on 09/23/2009 05:29 PM Yes, as through this world I've wandered I've seen lots of funny men; Some will rob you with a six-gun, And some with a fountain pen. And as through your life you travel, Yes, as through your life you roam, You won't never see an outlaw Drive a family from their home. |