I have past life memory of this. Yes, there was a war. The civilizations were peaceful, & the earth was stable geologically & atmospherically. It was the time of the real crystal skulls which were like head statues of previous masters/head honchos of the facilities that maintained this stability as well as communication between earth and the ET star systems & mother ships.
The skulls contained all of the knowledge of the retired master of the facility. They were used for various purposes.
There were 'watchers' positioned above much like the craft mimicing stars and planets now, that acted like our satellites do to ping communications back and forth.
I worked in one of these in the area of the now inland northwest US/Canada. If you look on the Google map, you can see an area that looks like a head in ceremonial head gear and land carved out in a pattern.
Those who worked there used head gear and sat in control chairs that resemble the old stereo chairs to maintain the stability & communications. Small group, maybe a dozen in all, a mix of hand selected humans and various ET's.
The war was one created with geological and atmospheric destruction. A great flood was caused that wiped out most of this continent, and others. I was rescued by spacecraft as the water could be seen rushing towards us. A grey type, head honcho, who was about to retire, pushed me into the craft to save me. A Draco type flew me safely and quickly away, but I am not sure where. Mars? Then I was boarded onto a mother ship, where it seems I spent the rest of that lifetime.
Another human, a young man, was taken by portal to safety. A human type woman, alien, a leader person, came through to get him, as he was able to fly craft and had to be escorted where ever it was that those craft were.
This was the flood before Noah's time, but I don't know how much before.
There were regions of high civilization on all continents. Humans and our leaders were held in high esteem. Flight from continent to continent was common, but in space craft type, fast travel.
EDIT: Arches National Park is not created by rock formations. The amphitheater area were skyscrapers hollowed out by the flood. If you compare it to a view of NYC along Central Park, you will see the similarities.
All of the Fear&Doubt had to be brought to the surface of humanity so it could be cleansed and healed BEFORE 2012.
All of mankinds nightmares would come true so they would have the chance to be healed by choosing LOVE over FEAR.
Emotions have energy, an Electro Magnetic reality and are broadcast out into the universe just like you were a Radio station broadcasting a signal.
Energy can't be created or destroyed, It can only be transmuted into a higher or lower state of itself.
So how do you Transmute a negitive thought form?
By living it.
This was done by help from "higher powers" in service to humanity.
So if the Anunnaki were helping Humanity Cleanse it's dark thought forms to help prepare for the 2012 shift of the ages, well it is easy to see why they would be looked on as Angels or Demons, depending if you came before them with FEAR or LOVE in you heart.
There's no end to the bottom when we start to fall,
There's no top to the high when we want to climb.
Quoting: Michael Lee Hill
"Demons are actually just angels in disguise helping us to let go of our attachments."
From the point of view of a reality that can be perceived by
physical beings, the form of the Founders has two arms, two
legs, a head, and a torso. They possess large, inquisitive eyes
as a symbolic representation of their desire for knowledge and
of the ancient memory they carry within them. Physical
beings would view them as insectlike, very tall, and having
long, graceful limbs. Third-density humans can perceive
them if they enter an accelerated version of fourth density.
Interactions with them are usually able to occur in an altered
state. From this state they appear etheric and dreamlike.
Having fragmented their consciousness further, the
Founders began solidifying energy into matter. This created
a prototype physical race into which the majority of humanoid
consciousness would incarnate. On meta-atomic levels, or-
ganizational codes exist which create a consistent humanoid-
type body in a carbon-based environment as the vehicle for
physical representation of consciousness. The Founders
used this naturally occurring code to assist them in creating
versions of themselves in both physical and nonphysical
states. This form symbolically reflected the aspects of the
polarized universe they had entered. Again, it is repre-
sentative of the idea that "parents" create "children" in their
own image.
The Founders are the energetic grandparents of the human
race. It was their desire to manifest different dimensional
aspects of themselves. This would produce root forms of life
which would facilitate the process of creating diversity within
the new reality that was just born. They are both the Source
and the prototype.
As they emerged into this light form through the densifica-
tion of energy, they became aware that all life will once again
evolve back into the Founders and then into the Source. Con-
sciousness will scatter and fragment, sometimes beyond
recognition; but it will evolve back into the Source physically,
as well as mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
Thus the Founders began the next step of the fragmentation
process. Their first action was to begin making the plans
necessary to spread life throughout the Lyran system. They
were aware that over time the life forms would naturally
gravitate into planetary civilizations by means of attraction.
Planets were chosen within the Lyran star group to house
these new races. As these planets naturally began to develop
primate life, the Founders seeded these developing primates
with plasmic energy on meta-atomic levels within their DNA
structure. This occurred over many generations until the
primates/humanoids possessed the genetics necessary to sus-
tain the higher vibrations of third-density consciousness.
With slight alterations, the incarnation process was soon to
begin on several planetary bodies.
The Founders fragmented themselves further in order to
release the consciousness necessary to incarnate on these
planets. As this fragmentation occurred, each consciousness
was magnetized to a specific planet where the vibrations were
more compatible with the individual fragment.
As expressed in the previous chapter, the basic template of
the consciousness that fragmented through the Prism of Lyra
can be considered a triad. It represents one polarity, its op-
posite, and the integrative point. The Founders observed this
natural flow of energy emerging in the base species that were
developing. These different planetary groups were initially
homogeneous, not yet manifesting any single aspect of the
template in an obvious way.
As time went on and interactions between individuals and
groups increased, many groups polarized into either negative
or positive orientations. Some groups began to display vary-
ing degrees of integration. This scenario was expected by the
Founders. However, the process began to take on a life of its
own. As the process grew exponentially, the Founders began
to see the infinite reflections of the Whole, and to some ex-
tent it became overwhelming to them.
As these groups evolved and achieved space travel, they ex-
posed themselves to the development of other planetary
groups in the area. Cultures began to mix and grow. New
philosophies were born. For a period of time the Lyran races
rapidly developed advanced technology, expansive
philosophy, and strong social development due to the inter-
actions between these planetary cultures. Then the dynamics
of the template began to be displayed.
Polarities began to solidify, generating their own polariza-
tion that continued exponentially in turn. Negative polarities
began splitting and manifesting their own negative/positive
poles. Positive poles did the same. The feminine expressed
its masculine, and the masculine expressed its feminine.
Polarities exploded like viruses within the previously blos-
soming civilization.
[link to www.exopolitics.org.uk] We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.
-
The Definition of Our Future:
Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.
--
The Number One Enemy of Progress is Question.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 776675 9/24/2009 5:23 AM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
All of the Fear&Doubt had to be brought to the surface of humanity so it could be cleansed and healed BEFORE 2012.
All of mankinds nightmares would come true so they would have the chance to be healed by choosing LOVE over FEAR.
Emotions have energy, an Electro Magnetic reality and are broadcast out into the universe just like you were a Radio station broadcasting a signal.
Energy can't be created or destroyed, It can only be transmuted into a higher or lower state of itself.
So how do you Transmute a negitive thought form?
By living it.
This was done by help from "higher powers" in service to humanity.
So if the Anunnaki were helping Humanity Cleanse it's dark thought forms to help prepare for the 2012 shift of the ages, well it is easy to see why they would be looked on as Angels or Demons, depending if you came before them with FEAR or LOVE in you heart.
There's no end to the bottom when we start to fall,
There's no top to the high when we want to climb.
.""Demons are actually just angels in disguise helping us to let go of our attachments
~ Danny Aiello, from Jacob's Ladder
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Quoting: Anomalous Mallard 485721
"Demons are actually just angels in disguise helping us to let go of our attachments"~ Danny Aiello, from Jacob's Ladder
Awesome
Last Edited by Michael Lee Hill on 9/24/2009 at 6:23 AM "You get what you concentrate on, there is no other main rule"
Enlilson The Sons of Enlil live. User ID: 769073 9/24/2009 7:42 AM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
Delving further back, The Ancients of the Ancients.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776675
The advent of 2 legs for walkin, a couple of arms to flail around and a mouth to shoot off as a vehicle for symbiont life is rather modern in the grand scheme of things.
To get to these intelligences one has to move out of the mind, past the heart, down to the cells in the stomach (that are of the past) as well sometime in the saddle developin the pituitary as an activated gland it then opens a doorway to EVERYthag.
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diggin the rail in setting up for another turn.
This is the fourth world, according to the mayan calendar this world will end by December 22, 2012 maybe sooner. In each world there were humanoids that were bipedal and had some form of intelligence. The third world ended 65 million years ago with the extinction of the dinosaurs back then there were bipedal dinosaurs relatively more intelligent than the other species, case in point the velociraptors. This seems to be the general theme of each world. Once this world ends it will be a new age of who knows what birds?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 481217 9/24/2009 8:42 AM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
The texts confirm that the "elder gods" or "Anunnaki" were, in fact, not the first "gods" and that a race or races known as the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki.
The Ancient Ones had come from the stars many eons earlier and had established an extremely advanced culture.
The Anunnaki, although initially accepted, and very technologically advanced themselves, subsequently caused immense problems and a war broke out. It seems this was no small battle, indeed, it changed the entire face of the earth and irrevocably altered the course of life thereon. The texts go on to say that the "elder gods" or the "Anunnaki" produced/created mankind as a slave/workforce.
Were these Anunnaki the legendary dragons as some have suggested, or do the legends of these magical creatures and their nebulous world, refer to the ancient race that existed prior to the arrival of the Anunnaki? Were they eradicated/modified by this invasion/rebellion?
There are many who view the Anunnaki genetic modifications on this planet as an upgrade to the race of beings existing on earth at the time, but considering the overweening arrogance and warlike behavior of the Anunnaki themselves and of some of our world leaders (who claim to be their descendants through their affiliations with various secret societies), it makes one wonder. As a species, man has more genetic defects/diseases than any other.
Was the Anunnaki gene manipulation an upgrade... Or was it in fact a downgrade?
Strangely, it clearly states in the Sumerian texts that the genes of the commander of the army of the ANCIENT ONES combined with ANUNNAKI genes were used to "create" man...
Could be the true story behind the "fall from paradise"? It may be seen as odd that the Anunnaki would combine their own genes with that of their ancient enemy, however it seems that they viewed this as some type of punishment or binding of the spirit of the Ancient Ones.
According to Sumerian sacred texts, the "elder gods" (the Anunnaki), battled with and destroyed the Ancient Ones, and specifically Tiamat, their queen, the ancient of days, who is described as a "great wicked serpent" or "mighty dragon". Also described are her many strange allies - serpent men, dragons, sphinxes (lion-men), centaurs, dog-men and scorpion-men.
The titanic battle raged for ten years or more, laying waste to the earth and its inhabitants...
The Anunnaki eventually won the battle and they divided up parts of the earth between them. It is only after this that mankind was "created" as a slave race. The Anunnaki were a race of warlords, for they often fought amongst themselves and involved humans in their endless power struggles and petty jealousies.
It has been said that the "myths" of centaurs, satyrs, unicorns, dragons, elves etc. were the results of early genetic experiments of the Anunnaki, but the Sumerian texts state the creatures/monsters were allies of Tiamat.
Were the original dragons/elves/fairy folk, in fact, the Ancient Ones spoken of in the texts?
Did the Anunnaki destroy a civilization, the mythical "land before time", and by tampering with genetic codes, attempt genocide on a global scale and deliberately conceal any memory of or reference to this civilization?
Did they teach mankind wonders or did they just twist and pervert ancient wisdom?
No doubt there were "runaway slaves" hidden in the caverns of the earth and also other survivors who had escaped the unwelcome attentions of the Anunnaki and their captive breeding programs. The texts tell us that there were renegade Anunnaki as well, and it speculated that Enki himself may have returned to the underworld.
From these came the myths of Hollow Earth, Shamballah, Agartha... and legends of great treasures and mines guarded by the gnomes. (genomes?)
Elves and Others, may have taken refuge in the mountains and forests and "desolate places", giving rise to their own "myths". As the world came more and more under the influence of the Anunnaki, many of these too, may have fled below the surface.
It is well documented that there are vast networks of tunnels and huge caverns beneath the earth, some caused by volcanic activity and some artificial in origin. Many strange "cults" sprang from these stories, many of which persist to this very day, which in itself has caused much mischief.
It appears these elder gods/Anunnaki, were terrified of the Ancient Ones and dreaded their foretold return, fearing that they would reclaim the earth and take revenge on them. For this reason they devised many "magical" and other occult diverse means to prevent this from occurring.
After all, this would mean that the "slave race" that the Anunnaki had "created", and who contained the genetic codes of the "ancient ones" might awaken and seek their freedom.
One can see that this would cause the Anunnaki overlords to be terror stricken and would necessitate stringent control measures be imposed on the slaves.
Thus was born religion and other hierarchical structures of control, suppression and subjugation.
And what of humans, the odd genetic consequence of all this meddling?
Is this the reason why humanity seems to be suffering from collective post traumatic stress disorder?
As it says in the Sumerian texts:
"Man is born of sadness, for he is of the Blood of the Ancient Ones, but has the Spirit of the Elder Gods breathed into him. And his heart goes to the Ancient Ones, but his mind is turned towards the Elder Gods, and this is the war which shall be always fought, unto the last generation of man; for the world is unnatural."
Does this not imply that the previously understood "natural order" was disrupted in some fundamental way when the civilization of the Ancients was destroyed?
Is the famous "cradle of civilization", in reality a coffin of a bygone golden age lost in the mists of time?
We are told that civilization abruptly emerged 6,000 to 8,000 years ago in ancient Sumer, (now known as Iraq).
Could it be that at that time everything was altered by belligerent beings with dubious intent and ruthless methods?
In the texts the Anunnaki demonstrate their fear and hatred of the Ancient Ones, by describing them as "crawling chaos" and blaming them for all manner of hideous horror. But the texts also reveal the Anunnaki themselves, as a fierce, lustful, incestuous, bloodthirsty, deceitful, jealous and conquering race, with a vested interest in keeping their "creations" ignorant about their true origins.
That being the case, we can speculate that the ways of the Ancients were diametrically opposed to those of the Anunnaki.
Were the Ancient Ones aware of and did they utilize chaos theory and the fractal nature of consciousness in the creation of their forgotten world?
And humanity, blissfully unaware of all this for the most part, still struggles on living the lies and bearing the terrible karmic burden of these unspeakable deeds.
But it is also written:
"Know that Tiamat seeks ever to rise to the stars, and when the Upper is united to the Lower, then a New Age will come of Earth, and the Serpent shall be made whole, and the Waters will be as One"
the war still rages on in the astral. All the gods and goddesess are there as are we so very much of the time. The physical and the astral are counterparts to each other and inter dependent upon each other. One effects the other. As above ...so below.
"Know that Tiamat seeks ever to rise to the stars, and when the Upper is united to the Lower, then a New Age will come of Earth, and the Serpent shall be made whole, and the Waters will be as One"
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 481217
I once observed a large blue eel in the skies above manhattan. I am not sure of the date it was on a sunday afternoon in August of 2004 either the 8th or the 15th. I did not know what it was at the time. The eel-like creature sometimes assumed the shape of a boomerang or an S, it appeared above buildings in midtown manhattan and was quite visible for several minutes. I have detailed that encounter here [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Later I was informed by a spirit that started speaking to me in 2006 that Tiamat is binds us together and that sighting was the beginning of the age of Aquarius and soon this will become a water world. I believe Tiamat is represented by this blue eel possibly what the chinese refer to a dragon or Quetzalcoatl by the Aztecs. The main point seems to be that this was the spirit that had the earth populated with dinosaurs before other spirits -- humanoids or Angels came and destroyed them and created the world as we now know it. Now the serpent is back to restore the earth to its original state. This is the general theme of the struggle I highlighted between the Igigi and the Great Anunnaki. The creator god seems to have gotten tired of the Anunnaki and their human creation and wants the planet back
This is the fourth world, according to the mayan calendar this world will end by December 22, 2012 maybe sooner. In each world there were humanoids that were bipedal and had some form of intelligence. The third world ended 65 million years ago with the extinction of the dinosaurs back then there were bipedal dinosaurs relatively more intelligent than the other species, case in point the velociraptors. This seems to be the general theme of each world. Once this world ends it will be a new age of who knows what birds?
Quoting: Floyd007
there is a portal from the future that will open up the gateways from the omniverse to those that can ramp up the light enough to get to them.
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
Last Edited by Wingedlion on 9/24/2009 at 10:54 AM
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
Quoting: Wingedlion
If they really wanted us to know about them, they should have left laser discs as records of past times not stone tablets. For beings that can travel the stars their form of record keeping wasn't very advanced.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711341 9/24/2009 1:36 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
The were the Sons Of God, the Children of the Law Of One, and there were the Children of Belial, or children of the lie. That is where the war started. The Law Of One states that all of creation is of One Source. The children of belial wish to rule the world. The lie is that we are separate from Source. Is it any different today than it was before? Look at how easliy we fell victim to the separation story! We are different colors, different races, different religions, but in the end WE ARE ALL OF ONE SOURCE! the belial group plays on these differences and provokes us to hate and destroy each other. It is because of ignorance that we do fight with each other! However they are behind the scenes pulling the strings to proke this, and prepetuating hatred amongst us. It is when we come together in truth that we are NOT seperate that we can truly heal our world.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711341 9/24/2009 1:40 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
<If they really wanted us to know about them, they should have left laser discs as records of past times not stone tablets. For beings that can travel the stars their form of record keeping wasn't very advanced.>
Not true! They left the records in stone because nature and natural creations from nature are the only things that survive dimensional shift! today's dvd's, cd's, books, etc. are not going to survive the coming shift either.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711341 9/24/2009 1:48 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
Haven't you ever heard of the Hall Of Records? Where the records of our beginnings are stored telling humanity the TRUTH of it's existence. There are also many items stored there as well. Do you really believe that the belial group wants to allow people to get their hands on that? as stated before there are two groups that exist on this planet, thiose who serve others and those that serve their own selfish interests. they search for these records under the guise of "insititutes and schools" but with one agenda, to keep them away from the average person. then there are those that search to reveal the secrets. the belial group uses religions to make it look as if anyone who comes out with that info. is lying and evil, when in fact it is the opposite. it is a bait and switch tactic.
Lady Lara Croft "HAVE GUNS, WILL TRAVEL" User ID: 778653 9/24/2009 4:28 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
Basically, it's a pdf book presenting another version of the same galactic human history and beginnings. It all began in Lyra...
If it works
for you, use the insights given here as a catalyst for your own
growth. If not, perhaps it can lead you one step closer to your
own personal truth.
Quoting: th€bbo
thanks. I will maybe get another read. I need more stuff. Still searching. “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
—Herbert Spencer
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775009 9/24/2009 4:41 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
Quoting: Wingedlion
It is pagan b s they pickup in college-nwo schools. There's no truth in any of it. It was used to deceive back then and still is.
The Babylonians would rename the Jew captives to wash their culture from them. Daniel was renamed Belteshazzar.
God's unlikely Latin lovers
Yasmin Haskell | September 27, 2006
ONE of the most delicious paradoxes in the history of education is the fact that the Society of Jesus, a Catholic Reformation order founded by Ignatius of Loyola in the 16th century, was the greatest single publicity machine for the literature of pagan antiquity from the late Renaissance until the French Revolution.
The ethos of the Society of Jesus was an apostolic one: its members were called less to contemplate than to preach, to harvest souls, to exert influence in the world. The order attracted active types - missionaries, musicians, mathematicians, artists, architects, scientists and poets -- and all Jesuits were required to do a stint of teaching in the society's free humanist schools.
The Jesuits are rightly acclaimed as the educators of early modern Catholic Europe. Among their brilliant alumni were Rene Descartes and Voltaire. While their curriculum and pedagogical methods were based on Renaissance models, the Society of Jesus translated traditional elements into a spectacularly successful formula of their own, forging an international educational empire that stretched from Rome to Russia, Mexico to Macau.
[link to www.theaustralian.news.com.au]
Anomalous Mallard User ID: 485721 9/24/2009 6:26 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
Quoting: Wingedlion
I think all that you said above can also be applied to the Bible or any other similar ancient literature.
Here's a list of all Sumerian Tablets that have been translated...so far...and of which most were written/scribed 2000 years before the Bible was compiled.
Myth? Legend? Truth? An open mind, the desire to explore, the ability to 'connect the dots', and discernment - all make for a most interesting journey.
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
I think all that you said above can also be applied to the Bible or any other similar ancient literature.
Here's a list of all Sumerian Tablets that have been translated...so far...and of which most were written/scribed 2000 years before the Bible was compiled.
Myth? Legend? Truth? An open mind, the desire to explore, the ability to 'connect the dots', and discernment - all make for a most interesting journey.
The transformed lives of countless millions of people ye hundreds of millions of people who have been born again rises in stark testimony against your retard rant. The Sumerians died off shortly after this Anunnaki crap came into focus, their civilization was destroyed just as Sodom, Inca, Myan, Egypt, and all other godless civilizations that tried to set up a pagan theocracy but failed.
There are reasons why they failed, one being that they were inferior to the Living God who directs all things in His will. Another one bits the dust I'm afraid.
Enlilson The Sons of Enlil live. User ID: 778878 9/24/2009 6:42 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
I think all that you said above can also be applied to the Bible or any other similar ancient literature.
Here's a list of all Sumerian Tablets that have been translated...so far...and of which most were written/scribed 2000 years before the Bible was compiled.
Myth? Legend? Truth? An open mind, the desire to explore, the ability to 'connect the dots', and discernment - all make for a most interesting journey.
The transformed lives of countless millions of people ye hundreds of millions of people who have been born again rises in stark testimony against your retard rant. The Sumerians died off shortly after this Anunnaki crap came into focus, their civilization was destroyed just as Sodom, Inca, Myan, Egypt, and all other godless civilizations that tried to set up a pagan theocracy but failed.
There are reasons why they failed, one being that they were inferior to the Living God who directs all things in His will. Another one bits the dust I'm afraid.
Quoting: Wingedlion
great to know you got it all figured out now go find another sandbox to play in cuz you are done here and I am sure there are better threads to spread your wisdom. ' " "'
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Anomalous Mallard User ID: 485721 9/24/2009 7:01 PM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
I think all that you said above can also be applied to the Bible or any other similar ancient literature.
Here's a list of all Sumerian Tablets that have been translated...so far...and of which most were written/scribed 2000 years before the Bible was compiled.
Myth? Legend? Truth? An open mind, the desire to explore, the ability to 'connect the dots', and discernment - all make for a most interesting journey.
The transformed lives of countless millions of people ye hundreds of millions of people who have been born again rises in stark testimony against your retard rant. The Sumerians died off shortly after this Anunnaki crap came into focus, their civilization was destroyed just as Sodom, Inca, Myan, Egypt, and all other godless civilizations that tried to set up a pagan theocracy but failed.
There are reasons why they failed, one being that they were inferior to the Living God who directs all things in His will. Another one bits the dust I'm afraid.
Quoting: Wingedlion
My "retard rant"...? Putting aside your mature and sophisticated use of language, I was offering you some guidance to explore the questions you asked. My time is wasted on you, obviously.
No matter. I'm sure you will find validation of your beliefs and comfort with those other "countless millions of people ye [sic] hundreds of millions of people" as you are re-born - again and again and again - into this world...until you 'get it'.
As one of my favorite poster on GLP once said:
"There is only one truth - and all distortions lead to it".
It seems evident that some people just enjoy taking lots of detours on the way.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Enjoy your journey, W-Lion. I wish you wisdom and grace as your companions.
If they (Anunnaki) actually existed, and if they were here to help mankind...they did a piss poor job of helping the Sumerians, or any civilization. They died off, along with any real evidence of their work.
How do we know that these stories were not mere entertainment. Why do we assume that the record was a historical document and not mere Myth written to support a religious system of control over the people? We Don't.
And if they did exist, then were are they now? There is a lot of science fiction going on here and not a lot of reality. Perhaps when faced with doom, people make up their own fantasy to live in rather than to face the real world.
I think all that you said above can also be applied to the Bible or any other similar ancient literature.
Here's a list of all Sumerian Tablets that have been translated...so far...and of which most were written/scribed 2000 years before the Bible was compiled.
Myth? Legend? Truth? An open mind, the desire to explore, the ability to 'connect the dots', and discernment - all make for a most interesting journey.
The transformed lives of countless millions of people ye hundreds of millions of people who have been born again rises in stark testimony against your retard rant. The Sumerians died off shortly after this Anunnaki crap came into focus, their civilization was destroyed just as Sodom, Inca, Myan, Egypt, and all other godless civilizations that tried to set up a pagan theocracy but failed.
There are reasons why they failed, one being that they were inferior to the Living God who directs all things in His will. Another one bits the dust I'm afraid.
My "retard rant"...? Putting aside your mature and sophisticated use of language, I was offering you some guidance to explore the questions you asked. My time is wasted on you, obviously.
No matter. I'm sure you will find validation of your beliefs and comfort with those other "countless millions of people ye [sic] hundreds of millions of people" as you are re-born - again and again and again - into this world...until you 'get it'.
As one of my favorite poster on GLP once said:
"There is only one truth - and all distortions lead to it".
It seems evident that some people just enjoy taking lots of detours on the way.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Enjoy your journey, W-Lion. I wish you wisdom and grace as your companions.
.
Quoting: Anomalous Mallard 485721
+1 "You get what you concentrate on, there is no other main rule"
In fact, "Person A" was positing a hypothesis based on the appearance of the craft you filmed, which correlated with his knowledge of how Kingdom (from the incoming planet) craft look.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 547230 9/25/2009 12:40 AM
Re: the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki
The texts confirm that the "elder gods" or "Anunnaki" were, in fact, not the first "gods" and that a race or races known as the Ancient Ones pre-dated the arrival of the "elder gods"/Anunnaki.
The Ancient Ones had come from the stars many eons earlier and had established an extremely advanced culture.
The Anunnaki, although initially accepted, and very technologically advanced themselves, subsequently caused immense problems and a war broke out. It seems this was no small battle, indeed, it changed the entire face of the earth and irrevocably altered the course of life thereon. The texts go on to say that the "elder gods" or the "Anunnaki" produced/created mankind as a slave/workforce.
Were these Anunnaki the legendary dragons as some have suggested, or do the legends of these magical creatures and their nebulous world, refer to the ancient race that existed prior to the arrival of the Anunnaki? Were they eradicated/modified by this invasion/rebellion?
There are many who view the Anunnaki genetic modifications on this planet as an upgrade to the race of beings existing on earth at the time, but considering the overweening arrogance and warlike behavior of the Anunnaki themselves and of some of our world leaders (who claim to be their descendants through their affiliations with various secret societies), it makes one wonder. As a species, man has more genetic defects/diseases than any other.
Was the Anunnaki gene manipulation an upgrade... Or was it in fact a downgrade?
Strangely, it clearly states in the Sumerian texts that the genes of the commander of the army of the ANCIENT ONES combined with ANUNNAKI genes were used to "create" man...
Could be the true story behind the "fall from paradise"? It may be seen as odd that the Anunnaki would combine their own genes with that of their ancient enemy, however it seems that they viewed this as some type of punishment or binding of the spirit of the Ancient Ones.
According to Sumerian sacred texts, the "elder gods" (the Anunnaki), battled with and destroyed the Ancient Ones, and specifically Tiamat, their queen, the ancient of days, who is described as a "great wicked serpent" or "mighty dragon". Also described are her many strange allies - serpent men, dragons, sphinxes (lion-men), centaurs, dog-men and scorpion-men.
The titanic battle raged for ten years or more, laying waste to the earth and its inhabitants...
The Anunnaki eventually won the battle and they divided up parts of the earth between them. It is only after this that mankind was "created" as a slave race. The Anunnaki were a race of warlords, for they often fought amongst themselves and involved humans in their endless power struggles and petty jealousies.
It has been said that the "myths" of centaurs, satyrs, unicorns, dragons, elves etc. were the results of early genetic experiments of the Anunnaki, but the Sumerian texts state the creatures/monsters were allies of Tiamat.
Were the original dragons/elves/fairy folk, in fact, the Ancient Ones spoken of in the texts?
Did the Anunnaki destroy a civilization, the mythical "land before time", and by tampering with genetic codes, attempt genocide on a global scale and deliberately conceal any memory of or reference to this civilization?
Did they teach mankind wonders or did they just twist and pervert ancient wisdom?
No doubt there were "runaway slaves" hidden in the caverns of the earth and also other survivors who had escaped the unwelcome attentions of the Anunnaki and their captive breeding programs. The texts tell us that there were renegade Anunnaki as well, and it speculated that Enki himself may have returned to the underworld.
From these came the myths of Hollow Earth, Shamballah, Agartha... and legends of great treasures and mines guarded by the gnomes. (genomes?)
Elves and Others, may have taken refuge in the mountains and forests and "desolate places", giving rise to their own "myths". As the world came more and more under the influence of the Anunnaki, many of these too, may have fled below the surface.
It is well documented that there are vast networks of tunnels and huge caverns beneath the earth, some caused by volcanic activity and some artificial in origin. Many strange "cults" sprang from these stories, many of which persist to this very day, which in itself has caused much mischief.
It appears these elder gods/Anunnaki, were terrified of the Ancient Ones and dreaded their foretold return, fearing that they would reclaim the earth and take revenge on them. For this reason they devised many "magical" and other occult diverse means to prevent this from occurring.
After all, this would mean that the "slave race" that the Anunnaki had "created", and who contained the genetic codes of the "ancient ones" might awaken and seek their freedom.
One can see that this would cause the Anunnaki overlords to be terror stricken and would necessitate stringent control measures be imposed on the slaves.
Thus was born religion and other hierarchical structures of control, suppression and subjugation.
And what of humans, the odd genetic consequence of all this meddling?
Is this the reason why humanity seems to be suffering from collective post traumatic stress disorder?
As it says in the Sumerian texts:
"Man is born of sadness, for he is of the Blood of the Ancient Ones, but has the Spirit of the Elder Gods breathed into him. And his heart goes to the Ancient Ones, but his mind is turned towards the Elder Gods, and this is the war which shall be always fought, unto the last generation of man; for the world is unnatural."
Does this not imply that the previously understood "natural order" was disrupted in some fundamental way when the civilization of the Ancients was destroyed?
Is the famous "cradle of civilization", in reality a coffin of a bygone golden age lost in the mists of time?
We are told that civilization abruptly emerged 6,000 to 8,000 years ago in ancient Sumer, (now known as Iraq).
Could it be that at that time everything was altered by belligerent beings with dubious intent and ruthless methods?
In the texts the Anunnaki demonstrate their fear and hatred of the Ancient Ones, by describing them as "crawling chaos" and blaming them for all manner of hideous horror. But the texts also reveal the Anunnaki themselves, as a fierce, lustful, incestuous, bloodthirsty, deceitful, jealous and conquering race, with a vested interest in keeping their "creations" ignorant about their true origins.
That being the case, we can speculate that the ways of the Ancients were diametrically opposed to those of the Anunnaki.
Were the Ancient Ones aware of and did they utilize chaos theory and the fractal nature of consciousness in the creation of their forgotten world?
And humanity, blissfully unaware of all this for the most part, still struggles on living the lies and bearing the terrible karmic burden of these unspeakable deeds.
But it is also written:
"Know that Tiamat seeks ever to rise to the stars, and when the Upper is united to the Lower, then a New Age will come of Earth, and the Serpent shall be made whole, and the Waters will be as One"
the museum in Iraq is working on translating ancient documents into English. they have hundreds of documents to translate. It will be interesting to see what comes out of there.
The Vatican has thousands of artifacts and pagan documents in their catacombs. They won't release them. A lost of historians say it would be a dream come true if they did. They won't ever release them because it's not in their best interests. I think they're wrong because the documents belong to the the world. It is our stolen heritage. Most of the churches in Europe are built on top of ancient pagan sites. If they churches fall, I hope historians do an exploration.
the museum in Iraq is working on translating ancient documents into English. they have hundreds of documents to translate. It will be interesting to see what comes out of there.
The Vatican has thousands of artifacts and pagan documents in their catacombs. They won't release them. A lost of historians say it would be a dream come true if they did. They won't ever release them because it's not in their best interests. I think they're wrong because the documents belong to the the world. It is our stolen heritage. Most of the churches in Europe are built on top of ancient pagan sites. If they churches fall, I hope historians do an exploration.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 779003
Yes Indeed, check this ifo out from Dr. Neruda from the Wingmakers...
Sarah: "Why? And who exactly is it who's censoring what we can read and can't? Are you suggesting there's a secret editorial committee that previews books before their distribution?"
Dr. Neruda: "This is a very complicated subject and I could spend a whole day just acquainting you with the general structure of this control of information. Most of the world's major libraries have collections of information that are not available to the general public. Only scholars are authorized to review these materials, and usually only on site. In the same way, there are manuscripts that were controversial and posited theories that were sharply different than the accepted belief systems of their day. These manuscripts or writings were banished by a variety of sources, including the Vatican, universities, governments, and various institutions.
"These writings are sought out by secret organizations that have a mission to collect and retain this information. These organizations are very powerful and well funded, and they can purchase these original manuscripts for a relatively small amount of money. Most of the writings are believed to be hocus-pocus anyway, so libraries are often very willing to part with them for an endowment or modest contribution. Also, most of these are original writings having never been published, being that they originated from a time before the printing press.
"There is a network of secret organizations that are loosely connected through the financial markets and their interests in worldly affairs. They are generally centers of power for the monetary systems within their respective countries, and are elitists of the first order. The ACIO is affiliated with this network only because it is rightly construed that the ACIO has the best technology in the world, and this technology can be deployed for financial gain through market manipulation.
"As for an editorial committee -- no, this secret network of organizations doesn't review books before publication. Its holdings are exclusively in ancient manuscripts and religious texts. They have a very strong interest in prophecy because they believe in the concept of vertical time and they have a vested interest in knowing the macro-environmental changes that can affect the economy. You see for most of them, the only game on this planet that is worth playing is the acquisition of ever-increasing wealth and power through an orchestrated manipulation of the key variables that drive the economic engines of our world." "You get what you concentrate on, there is no other main rule"
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