Can anyone explaine the horsemen in plain English. Make it understandable
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
My understanding is this:
1st: White, holding crown & bow bent on conquest...I think a culmination of events cause this - religion, politics, morality
2nd: Red, holding a sword, power to take peace from the world...9/11 attacks and the terrorists responsible
3rd: Black, holding scales, a quart of wheat for a day's wages, oil & wine become important...economic downfall although we have yet to suffer inflation. It's coming.
4th: Pale, rider is death, by sword, plague, famine and wild beasts...yet to come, but H1N1 is a clue.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778318 9/23/2009 11:39 PM
hi OP -- there is no timeline for the seals so we can't know if they've begun to open yet or not.
we can be reasonably certain the 6th seal hasn't been opened yet, as that appears to be a global cataclysm. evidently there's ample warning, as the earth's population moves underground to try and hide.
1/4 of the world dies in the seals. we care coming up on 7 billion people on earth. so by the time the trumpets go off we are looking at over 1 1/2 billion people dead.
as bad as things may seem to many of us now, they are going to get much, much worse -- and I reckon in a big hurry.
could be today or tomorrow when things go way south, could be next year, could be in 10 or 20 years. we have no way to know for sure. but we can see we are in the general time of the end.
what I try to do is keep my eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of my faith. I am to abide until He comes. watch, and pray.
love peace and joy
rb
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778303 (OP) 9/23/2009 11:42 PM
I am a Christian. However it seems like every pres. we have is the Anitchrist and every war and/or natural disaster it the end. See what I mean?
I understand, but I have never felt it like now. I have been "protected" from this man. I know it is he. As corrupt as Clinton was, he didn't even make me nervous. And Bush was a good man, who unknowingly played into BO's hands with the Patriotic Act...it happened when the first Horsemen rode (9/11 attacks). I am willing to stake all that I am on this belief.
hi OP -- there is no timeline for the seals so we can't know if they've begun to open yet or not.
we can be reasonably certain the 6th seal hasn't been opened yet, as that appears to be a global cataclysm. evidently there's ample warning, as the earth's population moves underground to try and hide.
1/4 of the world dies in the seals. we care coming up on 7 billion people on earth. so by the time the trumpets go off we are looking at over 1 1/2 billion people dead.
as bad as things may seem to many of us now, they are going to get much, much worse -- and I reckon in a big hurry.
could be today or tomorrow when things go way south, could be next year, could be in 10 or 20 years. we have no way to know for sure. but we can see we are in the general time of the end.
what I try to do is keep my eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of my faith. I am to abide until He comes. watch, and pray.
love peace and joy
rb
Quoting: rb 772810
stop being a liar.
we can know if we hear.
but to hear you must be obedient.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778318 9/23/2009 11:44 PM
Can anyone explaine the horsemen in plain English. Make it understandable
My understanding is this:
1st: White, holding crown & bow bent on conquest...I think a culmination of events cause this - religion, politics, morality
2nd: Red, holding a sword, power to take peace from the world...9/11 attacks and the terrorists responsible
3rd: Black, holding scales, a quart of wheat for a day's wages, oil & wine become important...economic downfall although we have yet to suffer inflation. It's coming.
4th: Pale, rider is death, by sword, plague, famine and wild beasts...yet to come, but H1N1 is a clue.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
Thanks that sums it up a bit. That is sort of what I have the idea of also. I just posted a video, check it out. See what you think..
Anonymous Coward User ID: 774946 9/23/2009 11:46 PM
See, I thought the Antichrist would come from somewhere like Russia. You think he was borne in Kenya?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
Revelation 13-2:
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Don't full yourself. There is much we do not know about Obama...all his info is sealed. The leopard's habitat is Africa and Southern Asia. Or it could reference a black panther which is a leopard with spots still but barely noticeable in his black fur...and you can guess the connection to the black panthers. The bear's feet...he got his foundation in communism. That much we do know about his "white" family. The mouth of a lion could be a reference to his African heritage or his astrology symbol...he is a Leo. I've yet to figure out the 10 horns and 7 heads...how many czars does he have? LOL
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778303 (OP) 9/23/2009 11:52 PM
That is a bit strange. I had a hazy dream last night about some guy preaching about revelation. He was talking about how it had all already happened and I questioned him asking when, then, did the second coming happen? I don't remember anything other than that.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777346
was it connected to a sermon you listened too/
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554141 9/23/2009 11:54 PM
See, I thought the Antichrist would come from somewhere like Russia. You think he was borne in Kenya?
Revelation 13-2:
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Don't full yourself. There is much we do not know about Obama...all his info is sealed. The leopard's habitat is Africa and Southern Asia. Or it could reference a black panther which is a leopard with spots still but barely noticeable in his black fur...and you can guess the connection to the black panthers. The bear's feet...he got his foundation in communism. That much we do know about his "white" family. The mouth of a lion could be a reference to his African heritage or his astrology symbol...he is a Leo. I've yet to figure out the 10 horns and 7 heads...how many czars does he have? LOL
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
That scared me!!!! Did you hear the one about Prince Charles being the Anitchrist also? I'll look for the info on that. Be back soon....
hi OP -- there is no timeline for the seals so we can't know if they've begun to open yet or not.
we can be reasonably certain the 6th seal hasn't been opened yet, as that appears to be a global cataclysm. evidently there's ample warning, as the earth's population moves underground to try and hide.
1/4 of the world dies in the seals. we care coming up on 7 billion people on earth. so by the time the trumpets go off we are looking at over 1 1/2 billion people dead.
as bad as things may seem to many of us now, they are going to get much, much worse -- and I reckon in a big hurry.
could be today or tomorrow when things go way south, could be next year, could be in 10 or 20 years. we have no way to know for sure. but we can see we are in the general time of the end.
what I try to do is keep my eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of my faith. I am to abide until He comes. watch, and pray.
love peace and joy
rb
stop being a liar.
we can know if we hear.
but to hear you must be obedient.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778318
lots of people have claimed to know throughout the centuries.
false teachers abound yet today. entire denominations have formed from false date-setting.
you can claim to somehow hear God better than anyone but I will stand on His Word before I jump to any conclusions.
sorry there've been just way too many people making way too many dogmatic claims. I'm not one of them. if you choose to do this that's up to you!
and guess what, I will love you anyway and reserve judgment. we are to point to Jesus -- the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy -- not allotting an overabundance of time trying to determine when we're at! when we're at -- I like that! :-)
love peace and joy
rb
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725861 9/23/2009 11:56 PM
There is a possibility that we are in the final seven years before Christ's return. It is set off be a secret peace treaty with Israel. Two possibilities are the Annapolis Peace Summit in Nov. 2007 (top of economic markets as well) and the other is the meeting between Obama and the president of Israel in May of 2009. In the midpoint of the 7 years, the anti-christ and false prophet will set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem (a statue) and also require people to take the mark....and worship the anti-christ. God tells people at that time to flee to the mountains. Then you have approx. two years of Satan's wrath followed by approx. 1.5 years of God's wrath. The rapture occurs just before God's wrath is poured out.....just after the 6th Seal. For the 3rd Seal, by the way, the world economy will become so disrupted that it will cost a day's wages to purchase a loaf of bread. Following God's wrath, you have Christ's return to destroy the anti-christ and his other enemies.....then set up His 1000 year rule from Jerusalem.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778303 (OP) 9/23/2009 11:58 PM
I am working. Constantly looking for answers. I know we can not know the date or time, I am tring to figure out the signs. Some days I think I understand them some days I am lost on the subject. :)
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554141 9/23/2009 11:58 PM
That scared me!!!! Did you hear the one about Prince Charles being the Anitchrist also? I'll look for the info on that. Be back soon....
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
I have heard that. There is something missing about Prince Charles...he's not a rock star like BO. I doubt he ever will be after Camilla's tampon incident.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778303 (OP) 9/24/2009 12:01 AM
There is a possibility that we are in the final seven years before Christ's return. It is set off be a secret peace treaty with Israel. Two possibilities are the Annapolis Peace Summit in Nov. 2007 (top of economic markets as well) and the other is the meeting between Obama and the president of Israel in May of 2009. In the midpoint of the 7 years, the anti-christ and false prophet will set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem (a statue) and also require people to take the mark....and worship the anti-christ. God tells people at that time to flee to the mountains. Then you have approx. two years of Satan's wrath followed by approx. 1.5 years of God's wrath. The rapture occurs just before God's wrath is poured out.....just after the 6th Seal. For the 3rd Seal, by the way, the world economy will become so disrupted that it will cost a day's wages to purchase a loaf of bread. Following God's wrath, you have Christ's return to destroy the anti-christ and his other enemies.....then set up His 1000 year rule from Jerusalem.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861
Ok, your best guess, how close are we? I think we will see it in our lives..
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554141 9/24/2009 12:02 AM
I am working. Constantly looking for answers. I know we can not know the date or time, I am tring to figure out the signs. Some days I think I understand them some days I am lost on the subject. :)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
Likewise...remember this. By their fruits they shall be known. Pray for discernment and shut off the tv, computer, radio and listen to God's still small voice for direction. I have no fear of the events to come...only sadness for those who don't understand or will be lost because of themselves.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554141 9/24/2009 12:03 AM
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