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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778351
9/24/2009 2:02 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The Beast is Obama...and he short of declared war against Israel just today.
Israel is the country of God's people whom he will defend...feel sorry for those that think otherwise. They will write their own death certificate and ticket to hell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual.
The 666 beast is the federal reserve bank. It is a CORRUPT monetary system which is the reserve currency of the Planet. This beast has finaced both sides of ALL major wars since 1913, when it gained contol of America.
The jews broke their convenant with God when they murdered his son, Jesus. God used the Romans the kick the Jews asses between 67 and 70 AD. God was VERY ANGRY with the Jews at this time, but not as angry as God is with them Now.
Current day Israel is satanic. Jesus told us 2 thousand years ago that this would be the case. Jesus was spot on.
Jesus revealed to you in Revelation that end times Israel would be destroyed.
Jesus also revealed the type of Jew that refused God's direct command to them. DO NOT return to Israel until your punishment was complete. The Jews told God to get fucked as is usual for those arrogant cunts. Anyway, let's use Jesus words from Revelation,,,
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778351
9/24/2009 2:20 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
forgot to answer the original question. got sidetracked by some fake evangelist attempting to get people to support satanic Isreal when they know that anyone who supports satanic Israel will have their name removed from the book of Life by Jesus who holds the keys to hades.
Any preacher who tells you to support satanic Israel is of satan. Do not listen to them or will pay the ultimate price.
Now.
The sixth Seal has been opened. We are approching the 7th Seal. At the very end of the sixth Seal time period, the Poles will be flipped. Then God sends his 7 Angels and Jesus opens the 7th Seal. Then its party time.
God wanted the Poles flipped last year on Yom Kipur. The two witnesses refused to do it.
God carried out 7 years of Judgment from December 7th, 1992, commencing at 0747.
God wanted his two witnesses to launch at this time. they were 40 years old and given the authority to strike. The witnesses refused in December of 1999. The two witnesses signed their death warrants at this time when they said NO to God for the first time. They could have gone home like Elijah, but no, they tried to save you stupid fucks.
God eventually told the witnesses to get fucked and sent his 7 Spirits on the 27th of November, 2001.
This was 9 years after God had commenced his judgment.
At this time i would think that the 7 Angels will arrive 9 years after the seven Spirits which means we have until the 27th of November, 2010. The Poles will be flipped prior to the 7 Angels arrival. Probably will be done by the two witnesses. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 374169
9/24/2009 2:37 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
We're still in the birth pangs / labor pains stage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778306
The above statement is incorrect:
The below statement is correct:
We're still way before the birth pangs / labor pains stage. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 777633
9/24/2009 2:55 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
Indeed. More than once in the Epistles, the time in which they were written is referred to as "these last days".
Personally, I'm not real worried about Revelation lately, but this is an interesting take on it. . .
[ link to christianhomesite.com]
(I just get tired of all the bullshit people throw around regarding prophecy, when we hardly even have a grip on the basics. Meh.)
The best enlightening reading I found re Revelation here:
[link to uncletaz.com]
"The Book of Revelation and the work of priest"
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778277
9/24/2009 3:01 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
sometime after the beasts make war against Israel.. duno i shall read it before i sleep. Quoting: Handle/Moiker
This guy is correct.
The new world order retains all four corners of the world.
They have the Heavens and are ready to bring forth their leader.
However our RED DRAGON will rise against them. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 777633
9/24/2009 3:10 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
Indeed. More than once in the Epistles, the time in which they were written is referred to as "these last days".
Personally, I'm not real worried about Revelation lately, but this is an interesting take on it. . .
[ link to christianhomesite.com]
(I just get tired of all the bullshit people throw around regarding prophecy, when we hardly even have a grip on the basics. Meh.)
The best enlightening reading I found re Revelation here:
[ link to www.uncletaz.com]
"The Book of Revelation and the work of priest"
[link to www.uncletaz.com] Book of Revelation and the work of the priest.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778412
9/24/2009 3:43 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
sometime after the beasts make war against Israel.. duno i shall read it before i sleep.
Who is the beast ?
Who is israel ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775009
You might find what I say to be very intriguing, and I will begin by quoting what this person said:
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778351
He is absolutely right that a beast in prophecy is never a singular person, it is usually a system of things, although I don't believe that it is the Federal Reserve Banking System, although I do believe that this system has caused so many problems that the world has been facing as it is a debt-based system much like all central-banking systems are debt-based systems that were designed as a means to gain control over the various governments that they "seem" to operate under. Why would our U.S. Government need to be borrowing money, at interest mind you, from the Federal Reserve if we are to believe what we are told that the Federal Reserve is part of our Federal-Government ? That would be like the government borrowing money from itself and paying interest on the money that it borrowed from itself. There is an INCREDIBLY stark difference between the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve, which is a cartel of private banking networks, but we are TOLD that this entity is an agency of the Federal-Government, and it makes no sense to me at all whatsoever. But anyhow, I'm going off onto a massive tangent right about now, lol.
The Beasts of Revelation are no different, as they represent a system, and a system can come in several different forms. What is so intriguing to me is how the book of Revelation itself actually TELLS US what the Beast is, what the Woman is, what the Harlot-Whore is, what the 7 Heads of the Beast are, what the 10 Horns on the Beast are. It' just so amazing to me that I didn't see that in Revelation a much longer time ago. Now, there is still most of Revelation that is NOT explained in the book itself, and although some is explained in the books of the Prophets like Daniel & Ezekiel, much of the understanding of the book of Revelation was not MEANT to be understand until this time now, and before God pours His Spirit out on all of mankind, only God's Church (Hhe Body Of Christ) can have full understanding of these thingz.
The Beast Of Revelation which rises up from out of the Earth is the "great whore", the "false church" (the Roman Catholic Church) that rides and has powerful influence, and often, full control, over the government (being the Holy Roman Empire). This Roman Catholic Church is most definitely a system, although the Pope controls that system.
The Beast Of Revelation which rises up from out of the sea is the Holy Roman Empire, of which there have been 7 revivals (the 7 heads of the Beast with one of those heads having a mortal wound which was then healed), and also of which have all been influenced and hence controlled by none other than the original Son Of Perdition, that devil of old named Satan. He was behind all of them, which is also why he is the "Beast that was, and is not, and will be to come" because John was in the Spirit during a time when there was no Holy Roman Empire that Satan had power over, because it hadn't been revived yet since the previous death of it. Revelation also describes as one that "is OF the 7 and so is the 8th", which describes that the power over this Beast was and is from Satan, he was of the 7 revivals and so is the 8th "and is going into perdition".
The 10 horns on the Beast represent the 10 kings (states this right in the book of Revelation itself) that "will rule for an hour with the Beast" (Holy Roman Empire). The 10 kings represent a 10-nation United States Of Europe that rises during the 5th Trumpet of the 7th Seal. You have been seeing the workings of this ever since the 1950z when the plans for the European Union were already well under-way. Now they have a strong European Union, but some nations will grow weary of it and will drop-out, and the powers that be will grow impatient because they feel that these nations are slowing-down the progress of the United States Of Europe which so many have actually stated that they desire a stronger United States Of Europe. In the end, there will be 10 nations that comprise this United States Of Europe, and those are the 10 symbolic horns that are on this symbolic Beast.
The woman is God's Church, and the harlot-whore is the false-church (Roman Catholic Church) that sits upon 7 mountains (or 7 hills, of which Rome is the "City Of 7 Hills", and most obviously the Roman Catholic Church, Vatican City, rests right there on those hills of Italy).
I will speak more about 666 and the Mark Of The Beast later-on because the Mark Of The Beast is not what most of the World assumes it to be, because it is not a physical mark or implantable chip, but it is a spiritual mark that God has the ability to discern whom has it or whom doesn't have it, although the powers behind the Holy Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church could be able to enforce the worshipping of the Beast by using a physical mark, but people will be feeling that this physical mark is really the Mark Of The Beast, but it is not. Satan has led most of the World to believe that the mark is physical. Most of what God speaks of is spiritual, which is why so much of the book of Revelation and many prophecies all throughout the Bible are difficult to grasp and understand, because they are spiritual in nature, and only God has the ability to open-up the mind of a human-being to be able to grasp the understanding of those thingz.
God is so very beautiful and powerful, and the more you begin to realize God's purpose and plan for humanity, and how giving of a God he really truly is, the more humble you will become that God is great, God is perfect, and his ways are the supreme way of living. This is exactly why the angel Lucifer led a rebellion of 1/3 of the whole entire Angelic-Realm, because they were told about God's purpose and plan for mankind and God's ways of living FIRST, and so they had nothing to compare God's ways to since they were experiencing those FIRST. God created mankind first physically because holy righteous character cannot be created, it can only be learned through the processes of a life experiences, and trials, and tribulations, to see the carnal human nature that everybody has and must fight to overcome. This is why we have free moral agency, because God didn't want to create mindless robotic automotons that were programmed upon creation to be just like Him, because then it'z not through choice. The Angels were also given free moral agency, which is hence why the rebellion was allowed to be commenced. Humans have been able to experience their own ways FIRST, because it is only through this process that one can see the error of our own ways, and why we should want to choose God's ways, I mean it'z all so very beautiful to me.
God's purpose and plan for mankind is contained in his Holy Days, which is why they were not to be abolished in the New Testament, but once again this was a perpetration by Satan to try thwarting God's plan, and it started with Adam & Eve in the Garden Of Eden. Satan and his minions of fallen-angels known as demons know that their time is very incredibly short, and the are so very stirred-up right now. Many weak-minded individuals re just suddenly becoming crazy in the head and then go out and murder a bunch of people or something horrible like that. This is the workings of Satan and his army of demons.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly
User ID: 778412
9/24/2009 3:44 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
sometime after the beasts make war against Israel.. duno i shall read it before i sleep.
Who is the beast ?
Who is israel ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775009
You might find what I say to be very intriguing, and I will begin by quoting what this person said:
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778351
He is absolutely right that a beast in prophecy is never a singular person, it is usually a system of things, although I don't believe that it is the Federal Reserve Banking System, although I do believe that this system has caused so many problems that the world has been facing as it is a debt-based system much like all central-banking systems are debt-based systems that were designed as a means to gain control over the various governments that they "seem" to operate under. Why would our U.S. Government need to be borrowing money, at interest mind you, from the Federal Reserve if we are to believe what we are told that the Federal Reserve is part of our Federal-Government ? That would be like the government borrowing money from itself and paying interest on the money that it borrowed from itself. There is an INCREDIBLY stark difference between the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve, which is a cartel of private banking networks, but we are TOLD that this entity is an agency of the Federal-Government, and it makes no sense to me at all whatsoever. But anyhow, I'm going off onto a massive tangent right about now, lol.
The Beasts of Revelation are no different, as they represent a system, and a system can come in several different forms. What is so intriguing to me is how the book of Revelation itself actually TELLS US what the Beast is, what the Woman is, what the Harlot-Whore is, what the 7 Heads of the Beast are, what the 10 Horns on the Beast are. It' just so amazing to me that I didn't see that in Revelation a much longer time ago. Now, there is still most of Revelation that is NOT explained in the book itself, and although some is explained in the books of the Prophets like Daniel & Ezekiel, much of the understanding of the book of Revelation was not MEANT to be understand until this time now, and before God pours His Spirit out on all of mankind, only God's Church (Hhe Body Of Christ) can have full understanding of these thingz.
The Beast Of Revelation which rises up from out of the Earth is the "great whore", the "false church" (the Roman Catholic Church) that rides and has powerful influence, and often, full control, over the government (being the Holy Roman Empire). This Roman Catholic Church is most definitely a system, although the Pope controls that system.
The Beast Of Revelation which rises up from out of the sea is the Holy Roman Empire, of which there have been 7 revivals (the 7 heads of the Beast with one of those heads having a mortal wound which was then healed), and also of which have all been influenced and hence controlled by none other than the original Son Of Perdition, that devil of old named Satan. He was behind all of them, which is also why he is the "Beast that was, and is not, and will be to come" because John was in the Spirit during a time when there was no Holy Roman Empire that Satan had power over, because it hadn't been revived yet since the previous death of it. Revelation also describes as one that "is OF the 7 and so is the 8th", which describes that the power over this Beast was and is from Satan, he was of the 7 revivals and so is the 8th "and is going into perdition".
The 10 horns on the Beast represent the 10 kings (states this right in the book of Revelation itself) that "will rule for an hour with the Beast" (Holy Roman Empire). The 10 kings represent a 10-nation United States Of Europe that rises during the 5th Trumpet of the 7th Seal. You have been seeing the workings of this ever since the 1950z when the plans for the European Union were already well under-way. Now they have a strong European Union, but some nations will grow weary of it and will drop-out, and the powers that be will grow impatient because they feel that these nations are slowing-down the progress of the United States Of Europe which so many have actually stated that they desire a stronger United States Of Europe. In the end, there will be 10 nations that comprise this United States Of Europe, and those are the 10 symbolic horns that are on this symbolic Beast.
The woman is God's Church, and the harlot-whore is the false-church (Roman Catholic Church) that sits upon 7 mountains (or 7 hills, of which Rome is the "City Of 7 Hills", and most obviously the Roman Catholic Church, Vatican City, rests right there on those hills of Italy).
I will speak more about 666 and the Mark Of The Beast later-on because the Mark Of The Beast is not what most of the World assumes it to be, because it is not a physical mark or implantable chip, but it is a spiritual mark that God has the ability to discern whom has it or whom doesn't have it, although the powers behind the Holy Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church could be able to enforce the worshipping of the Beast by using a physical mark, but people will be feeling that this physical mark is really the Mark Of The Beast, but it is not. Satan has led most of the World to believe that the mark is physical. Most of what God speaks of is spiritual, which is why so much of the book of Revelation and many prophecies all throughout the Bible are difficult to grasp and understand, because they are spiritual in nature, and only God has the ability to open-up the mind of a human-being to be able to grasp the understanding of those thingz.
God is so very beautiful and powerful, and the more you begin to realize God's purpose and plan for humanity, and how giving of a God he really truly is, the more humble you will become that God is great, God is perfect, and his ways are the supreme way of living. This is exactly why the angel Lucifer led a rebellion of 1/3 of the whole entire Angelic-Realm, because they were told about God's purpose and plan for mankind and God's ways of living FIRST, and so they had nothing to compare God's ways to since they were experiencing those FIRST. God created mankind first physically because holy righteous character cannot be created, it can only be learned through the processes of a life experiences, and trials, and tribulations, to see the carnal human nature that everybody has and must fight to overcome. This is why we have free moral agency, because God didn't want to create mindless robotic automotons that were programmed upon creation to be just like Him, because then it'z not through choice. The Angels were also given free moral agency, which is hence why the rebellion was allowed to be commenced. Humans have been able to experience their own ways FIRST, because it is only through this process that one can see the error of our own ways, and why we should want to choose God's ways, I mean it'z all so very beautiful to me.
God's purpose and plan for mankind is contained in his Holy Days, which is why they were not to be abolished in the New Testament, but once again this was a perpetration by Satan to try thwarting God's plan, and it started with Adam & Eve in the Garden Of Eden. Satan and his minions of fallen-angels known as demons know that their time is very incredibly short, and the are so very stirred-up right now. Many weak-minded individuals re just suddenly becoming crazy in the head and then go out and murder a bunch of people or something horrible like that. This is the workings of Satan and his army of demons.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly
User ID: 778415
9/24/2009 3:52 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
we haven't gone into famine, or nuclear war, or pandemic, or the mark YET!
What is the mark ?
What is the beast ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775009
The beast rising up out of the earth (Revelation 13:11-18) is the great whore, the false church (the Roman Catholic Church) that rides and has powerful influence, and often, full control over the government (Holy Roman Empire). The mark of the beast is a religious mark, not a governmental mark such as a Social Security number, or a National Identity number. Those who receive the mark of the beast will suffer the corrective plagues of God's Judgment and are contrasted with the saints, those who are keeping God's commandments. Therefore, the mark has something to do with commandment breaking.
A mark is an identifying sign or brand. One group is forced to bear the sign, brand, or mark of the beast to work or buy or sell. Keeping the fourth commandment, the Sabbath, is a sign, mark, or brand that identifies God's people (Exodus 31: 12-17). God's commandments, especially the fourth, are a sign on the hands (actions/work) and forehead (thinking/belief) of those who keep them. The mark of the beast is the enforced observance of Sunday and Satan's holidays instead of God's Sabbaths and Holy days. This could take the form of a Universal Sunday Law.
Revelation 13:17-18 tells us to count (compute) the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. These verses are saying the beast has a number and it may be identified. The expression “the name of the beast,” or “the number of his name” makes plain that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”
The beast is the Roman Empire. It was named after Romulas, the founder and first king of Rome. His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom. Every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name – a Roman. The apostle John wrote the book of Revelation in Greek. Therefore, we should count in Greek, and not in Latin.
This name, in Greek, is “Lateinos.” It means “Latin Man” or “the name of Latium,” from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language. In Greek, L=30, A=1, T=300, E=5, I=10, N=50, O=70, and S=200. They add up to 666. For 1260 years the pope has reigned and ruled over the beast. They were in effect, the religious heads of the empire, ruling over the emperors, as well as over the church.
Aaron |
| olo 
User ID: 772171
9/24/2009 3:53 AM
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Ok, so we're born and we get hunger, death, taxes, disease, bills, work, old age, pain, and a puzzling maze of religions and beliefs that which if you can't figure out the truth from you burn forever in hell fire.
Talk about being born into a hostile environment... and now we get Satan's wrath and God's wrath, wtf man, fucking gipped.
It's Polka time!! [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] |
| TheRestless
User ID: 756688
9/24/2009 3:54 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The 4 horsemen are already riding!
since the foundation of the RCC!!! |
| MuzicSoulWorldly
User ID: 778415
9/24/2009 4:20 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
sometime after the beasts make war against Israel.. duno i shall read it before i sleep.
Who is the beast ?
Who is israel ?
The Beast is Obama...and he short of declared war against Israel just today.
Israel is the country of God's people whom he will defend...feel sorry for those that think otherwise. They will write their own death certificate and ticket to hell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
Beasts in the Bible are never just one singular person or being, it is a system such as a government or church-bodies. Barack Obama looks and speaks like a lamb, but really has the spirit of that of a serpent, of a fallen-angel known as a demon. He might seem to be like the Beast described in the book of Revelation, but this is what they want you to think, and plus it allows them to use their mantra of dividing-and-conquering, and also to have their "order out of chaos".
There is something so very intriguing about Israel. The new Israel of today is not the same Israel of old. Israel is a people, not a nation. When God speaks about his people of Israel, he isn't speaking of the Jews in the modern-day nation of Israel, nor is he speaking of Jews in-general. God is speaking of his people that follow his ways of living life, recognizing that mankind will always have errors in their ways of living, and so thus we need to be trying to be overcoming our sins and not repeating them.
People go around touting that the Jews are God's chosen people so you better not diss them or else God will strike you down very quickly (or they same the same ditto regarding the nation of Israel). Other people go around saying that Israel has caused so many atrocities and horrible things and is also hypocritical of others, and so thus that they SHOULD be attacked and put into their proper place since they have wronged the whole entire World. This is all due to the fact that modern-day nation of Israel isn't the same Israel that God speaks of (whether speaking in the present-tense in those old-times or speaking prophetically regarding the future). The moden-day sovereign nation of Israel is so very corrupted by it'z government and it'z religionz there. Zionism controls much of this nation of Israel, but they aren't the only group that is corrupted.
The Israel that God speaks of for our time is the 10 Lost Tribes of the scattered nation of Israel. God commanded His people to NOT return to their land until their tribulations were finished, but yet we have seen the nation of Israel in existence ever since 1948m which goes against God's commandment. The Lost Tribes of Israel are the names of the Tribes spoken of in the book of Revelation. They correspond to the modern-day nations that have received the very most blessings in terms of wealth, power, and influence. These include the United States Of America, the United Kingdom, Russia, China, Australia, New Zealand, and some of the nationz of Western Europe. These nations comprise the scattered nations of Israel. This is where His people were dispersed to during the various expulsions that have occured all throughout history. God had made a promise to King David that his lineage and people would experience great prosperity (wealth, power, and influence) until the end-days. This is the proof of that promise that God had made to King David.
The United States Of America was the very final nation to be given it'z prosperity, and it will have to be the very first to see it'z demise, and this nation is so incredibly powerful that it will have to take 4 out of the 7 Trumpets to bring it fully down to it'z knees. The 5th Trumpet is when the United States Of Europe will take control over the United States and some other nations of the World also.
So thus, the reason that Israel is so incredibly corrupted right now is the very same reason that most of the major nationz on this planet are corrupted. It is due to Satan and his minions of demons stirring-up the weak-minded individuals that they can so influence to make evil and wicked plans and to do evil and wicked thingz in this World. It is not just Israel, but it is every nation of influence in this World that Satan has influenced it'z leaders of and influenced people to infiltrate to make become corrupted.
People that wish that Israel be attacked so that we can pay them back for all of the wicked stuff that they have been doing, those people that say this are no better than those very same people that they are speaking ill-wills towards. We need to be taking the message of Jesus Christ and loving our enemyies even when we know that they are being so very incredibly wrong, evil, and wicked. God wants all of us to have God-like love for everybody, and we don't have this love naturally, it has to be learned through a life of experiences and through a maturity of your spirit.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly
User ID: 778442
9/24/2009 4:59 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Ok, so we're born and we get hunger, death, taxes, disease, bills, work, old age, pain, and a puzzling maze of religions and beliefs that which if you can't figure out the truth from you burn forever in hell fire.
Talk about being born into a hostile environment... and now we get Satan's wrath and God's wrath, wtf man, fucking gipped. Quoting: olo
I understand what you're imparting, and believe you me I sometimes feel this same way also. But anyhow, the process of humbling mankind is what will get millions of human-beings to come to realize the truths about God. Sadly, there will still be so many human-beings that are just too selfish, prideful, and haughty in their own carnal ways of human-nature that they will just not change.
Also, in order to understand Scripture, we need to be examining the original languages to gain a much better understanding of certain thingz that the Bible speaks of. In regards to hell, it just simply doesn't exist. This is yet another thing perpetrated by Satan so that we live in fear and choose God's ways only out of sheer feer of eternal torment by blazing hell-fires, instead of choosing God's ways because you have faith in Him and in Jesus Christ. The wordz for "hell" in the original Hebrew & Greek are "sheol" and "hades", and those wordz mean grave (or hole in the ground) and death. When God speaks of eternal torment in hell with fire and brimstone, he isn't describing an eternal punishment of scorching fire, but he is speaking of the death of the soul, the death of the human-being. The punishment for sin is death, because God cannot have audience with sin. This is why God sent his only begotten Son into this World to then be sacrificed so that he would then have the ability to forgive sins, just so long as we sincerely ask for forgiveness, and sincerely put forth the efforts to correct those transgressions (sins), and only God can know whether or not you are being sincere about them or not. Thus, if you keep on rejecting God and His ways, you will have to have death, in whatever way that you caused it to happen, because let'z be very clear that it isn't God doing these thingz to mankind, it is just simply what happenes to mankind when he doesn't choose to live life as God would, you make the wrong choices and decisionz in life and then it might very well indeed kill you at some point, so it isn't God that is doing the actual killing for not following his ways.
The same thing with the End-Time Tribulation, it'z not God with boltz-of-lightning in his hands and casting them down to Earth to destroy those people, but it is just simply mankind destroying himself, which God will indeed put a stop to at the very last possible second before mankind would indeed totally and completely annihillate himself.
Then God's Kingdom comes to this great planet Earth with Christ at it'z head and reigning for a millenium of 1,000 years. Then, there is the Great White Throne resurrection that occurs, whereby anybody and everybody whom has ever lived on this Earth becomes resurrected back to physical life, and then there will be a span of 100 years whereby nobody else is born, but these people will have to make the decision of whether or not to continue rejecting God like they always have been, or to look around and see what God has done in just a mere 1,000 years compared to what mankind has done in 6,000 years and realizing that God's ways must be the righteous ways because he managed to reverse everything that mankind had ever done and now the World is so very beautiful and so much thriving.
Those resurrected human-beingz will then have the opportunity to decide how they are going to be living their lives. If they still choose to keep-on rejecting God and his ways of living life, then they will "die a second death", and this time, there will be no turning back from this. This is the eternal punishment that God speaks of, but it is not an eternal punishment of literal & physical fire and brimstone, but the punishment is death itself. The eternal punishment is the eternal death that you will face. The fire and the brimstone spiritually describe the person being dead forever, and just never ever being resurrected or woken-up ever ever again. We will have a choice, and ALL of humanity will have this same exact choice to make, including every human-being whom has ever lived on God's great planet Earth. They will finally have the chance to experience life in the World without the influences of Satan and his minions of demons, which should make for an easier choice of whether to accept or to reject God and his ways of living life.
God's purpose and plan for mankind is so very beautiful, and it goes so far beyond the 1,100 years after Christ returns to God's Earth. God said that there will come a time when there is NOTHING left that will NOT be under the subjection of man. This seems to mean that God ultimately wants to give all of his creations to his family that he is creating throughout all of this. In other words, he is desiring to reproduce himself, while never stopping being the Eternal Father, but we shall be his Sons, and Jesus Christ was and is the very first Son Of God to be re-born into a spirit-being. We have a very very very incredibly long road ahead of us if we just choose God and his ways of living life, because obviously the ways of mankind have not worked for 6,000 years, and they never would if they never followed God's ways. God does not do thingz for a waste of purpose, He has purpose in anything and everything that He does. He has great purposes and plans for us and we will be living full and abundant lives that would NEVER EVER EVER achieve the slightest bit of boredom or sorrow. This is what God has purposed and planned for us, and all we have to do is choose His ways after bearing witness to how humanity has been treating itself for it'z whole entire existence.
I hope you guyz make the right choice, because I do NOT want you to be left out of God's plan. I love all of you for whom you are, regardless of your background, your race, your ethnicity, your nationality, your creed, your handicap, your height, your weight, your body-type, and yes, even your religious views and opinionz, because we should all be loving everybody else regardless of our differences which are among us. The word for God-love is agape (ah-guh-pay), and this is what we should be learning to be exhibiting whenever we have the opportunity.
Aaron |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778351
9/24/2009 5:21 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I understand, but I have never felt it like now. I have been "protected" from this man. I know it is he. As corrupt as Clinton was, he didn't even make me nervous. And Bush was a good man, who unknowingly played into BO's hands with the Patriotic Act...it happened when the first Horsemen rode (9/11 attacks). I am willing to stake all that I am on this belief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
Bill Clinton was one of satan's masons and pure evil.
Bush is a satan worshiping skull and bonehead and pure evil.
The first horseman rode when the antichrist's forces, lead by the " Lover of the fortress " the " WAR PRESIDENT " Bushdog, started the NEVER ENDING WAR OF TERROR ( ww3 ) based on the false flag, inside job, known as 911.
The CFR,, The council for foreign invasions based on lies, fraud and deceit on behalf of satanic Israel, was the first horseman.
Look back of the older issue of the CFR.. On the front cover of their satanic magazine you will see a rider from the cfr riding a white horse with a bow in his hand. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 771093
9/24/2009 5:26 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Chapter 23 |
| alexblanelayder
User ID: 778428
9/24/2009 5:49 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
why worry if you just put all your trust, faith and love in the creator. in doing that maybe you will do as in
job 28
27Then He saw it and declared it;He established it and also searched it out.
28"And to man He said, 'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom;
And to depart from evil is understanding.
matt 6
25For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?
26Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they?
27"And who of you by being worried can add a single hour to his life?
28"And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin,
29yet I say to you that not even (AL)Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these.
30"But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith!
31"Do not worry then, saying, 'What will we eat?' or 'What will we drink?' or 'What will we wear for clothing?'
32"For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for (AP)your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things.
33"But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
34"So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778351
9/24/2009 5:51 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
"The Israel that God speaks of for our time is the 10 Lost Tribes of the scattered nation of Israel. God commanded His people to NOT return to their land until their tribulations were finished, but yet we have seen the nation of Israel in existence ever since 1948m which goes against God's commandment."
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Yes, God told them not to return to Israel until their punishment was complete. The gutter scum like GOG and Gaia, satan's own, would NEVER reveal this to the goyim. |
| Ice
User ID: 729060
9/24/2009 5:53 AM
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How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
chap 4 - 10 / 11- 19 repeat same events
1260 days
it has not started yet
intense ending of this age
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778528
9/24/2009 8:53 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
That's because it an utter load of horse-hockey, and as such can be freely interpreted to mean ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO... Which I might add, the Christian religion has been doing since it was written! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718510
And you know, what? |
| ShaneCMuir
User ID: 777814
9/24/2009 9:05 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Where is 911 in Revelations?
It isn't there.
Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce missed it too.
Do you know what this means?
NO-ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778528
9/24/2009 9:12 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
See, I thought the Antichrist would come from somewhere like Russia. You think he was borne in Kenya?
Revelation 13-2:
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Don't full yourself. There is much we do not know about Obama...all his info is sealed. The leopard's habitat is Africa and Southern Asia. Or it could reference a black panther which is a leopard with spots still but barely noticeable in his black fur...and you can guess the connection to the black panthers. The bear's feet...he got his foundation in communism. That much we do know about his "white" family. The mouth of a lion could be a reference to his African heritage or his astrology symbol...he is a Leo. I've yet to figure out the 10 horns and 7 heads...how many czars does he have? LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
The version of Revelation 13 that you are using is a 'false' one, created by those who oppose the Most High GOD and Jesus the Christ! The 'beast' is not a 'he' or 'him', but rather an 'it' or 'its', as written in the true versions of the Holy Bible. There is not one person who is the 'antichrist', but there are 'many' who are 'of the spirit of antichrist'. President Obama is one of 'many'! There is one person who epitomizes the 'spirit of antichrist' who is called the 'son of perdition', but its NOT the president of the US. Those who seek to fulfill their 'false' version are led by Lucifer, Satan, whom Jesus said was their 'father, the devil', who through them does 'its' will! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778528
9/24/2009 9:43 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The color green is the color of the 'pale horse'! Green is Lucifer's color. Copper is Lucifer's metal because it turns green when exposed to the elements. The color of the 'Papal jewels' was green, 'they were the jewels of Lucifer, before his fall from Heaven.' It is no coincedence that 'In the window in Chartres Cathedral, Satan is depeicte 'with green skin and huge green eyes.' Aliens from other planets were often refered to as 'little green men'. The 'Hulk' in the TV series and in movies has 'green skin' and 'green blood', which gives it an obvious 'sacriligious quality'. The green 'Hulk' had an 'instinctive dislike of human race' throughout the series and the movies, just as Lucifer does! And today we have the worldwide 'Green' movement, that appears to be benevolent, wanting to save the earth and humanity, but in reality, through the application of their nanotechnologies, they are doing exactly the opposite in many 'untested' and as yet unseen ways! The 'pale horse' carries a rider whose name is 'Death, and Hades followed him; and they were given power over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.' The 'sword' is a symbol of the 'warrior caste', those in the military, with it virtues, valour, and its office, POWER! The use of their POWER in making war, and intimidation through the exploitation of FEAR, causes 'famine', both literally, and spiritually. The creation of 'bioweapons', and the accidental or purposeful release of them causes 'pestilence', or diseases. The 'wild beasts of the earth' are the basic animal instincts that are 'subjugated or uncontrolled' which take over those who worship Lucifer! There is much more that could be added, but this is where we are in Revelation.
How do you know all this? Makes total sense. The Horsemen were a mystery to me.
One cannot understand what is going on unless one is truly 'born anew', having their 'spirit', their 'nature' changed within them, just as Jesus the Christ said! The apostles and true disciples of Christ understand this. Without the 'Counselor', the "Holy Spirit', as the guide, those who continue to rely on the carnal 'spirit', that is incarnate in humanity will do the will of their 'father, the devil'. Look around? The 'rebellion' is ongoing! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778351
9/24/2009 9:50 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Where is 911 in Revelations?
It isn't there.
Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce missed it too.
Do you know what this means?
NO-ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT!! Quoting: ShaneCMuir 777814
i can tell what response Jesus has planned because of 911
Revelation 19 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778351
9/24/2009 9:52 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Where is 911 in Revelations?
It isn't there.
Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce missed it too.
Do you know what this means?
NO-ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT!!
i can tell what response Jesus has planned because of 911
Revelation 19 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778351
12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. |
| Bugeater
User ID: 754202
9/24/2009 9:56 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
One cannot understand what is going on unless one is truly 'born anew', having their 'spirit', their 'nature' changed within them, just as Jesus the Christ said! The apostles and true disciples of Christ understand this. Without the 'Counselor', the "Holy Spirit', as the guide, those who continue to rely on the carnal 'spirit', that is incarnate in humanity will do the will of their 'father, the devil'. Look around? The 'rebellion' is ongoing! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778528
Amen!!
I would suggest the OP pray for the Holy Spirit to enter him and pray for wisdom to know the truth when he hears it. The Devil is hard at work and just like the bible says, the devil knows his time is short, you can see the desperation in those promoting satan's agenda, even if they don't know they're supporting satan they're doing more and more illogical and foolish things. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 770842
9/24/2009 10:01 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
That's because it an utter load of horse-hockey, and as such can be freely interpreted to mean ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO... Which I might add, the Christian religion has been doing since it was written! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718510
Guess you haven't been watching the news the last 60 years or so. Many of the bibles predictions have come to pass. |
| Bugeater
User ID: 754202
9/24/2009 10:03 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
That's because it an utter load of horse-hockey, and as such can be freely interpreted to mean ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO... Which I might add, the Christian religion has been doing since it was written!
Guess you haven't been watching the news the last 60 years or so. Many of the bibles predictions have come to pass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 770842
I believe something in the order of 2000+ have come to pass..... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 770842
9/24/2009 10:07 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
That's because it an utter load of horse-hockey, and as such can be freely interpreted to mean ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO... Which I might add, the Christian religion has been doing since it was written!
Guess you haven't been watching the news the last 60 years or so. Many of the bibles predictions have come to pass.
I believe something in the order of 2000+ have come to pass..... Quoting: Bugeater
I would say that's a few more than have been predicted correctly here on GLP. LOL. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778528
9/24/2009 10:09 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Where is 911 in Revelations?
It isn't there.
Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce missed it too.
Do you know what this means?
NO-ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT!! Quoting: ShaneCMuir 777814
911 was a 'staged' event, a 'lying sign', created by those whose 'father' is a liar, the 'father of lies', and has been ever since he was cast out of Heaven! Nostradamus and Cayce are not to be trusted either! Those who perpetuate the lies will stop at nothing to keep from being exposed, made 'naked'! They will continue to marginalize, villainize, criminalize, extort, intimitdate, discredit, impoverish, imprison, torture, and kill anyone who does not go along with them! They even think that they are doing GOD a 'service' by doing so! |
| Wingedlion
Wingedlion
User ID: 778566
9/24/2009 10:13 AM
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I have not read any of the responses that had it right. Every post is off base completely. No wonder the salt has lost it's savor. God help us, so much infiltration of the Body, so many false prophets. Not one person has correctly identified the symbols of prophecy in this thread, not one! |
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