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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 711341 9/24/2009 10:14 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote | What I find strange about this whole thing is TPTB are RIGGING an "armegeddon"! type scenario! And the average person can't seem to see thru the total bs of the whole thing! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778528 9/24/2009 10:18 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
One cannot understand what is going on unless one is truly 'born anew', having their 'spirit', their 'nature' changed within them, just as Jesus the Christ said! The apostles and true disciples of Christ understand this. Without the 'Counselor', the "Holy Spirit', as the guide, those who continue to rely on the carnal 'spirit', that is incarnate in humanity will do the will of their 'father, the devil'. Look around? The 'rebellion' is ongoing!
Amen!!
I would suggest the OP pray for the Holy Spirit to enter him and pray for wisdom to know the truth when he hears it. The Devil is hard at work and just like the bible says, the devil knows his time is short, you can see the desperation in those promoting satan's agenda, even if they don't know they're supporting satan they're doing more and more illogical and foolish things. Quoting: Bugeater
Very nice to hear from someone who seems to understand! Not many people in the world today do! The level of iniquity is increasing exponentially! The first 'beast is rising', and 'its' not any one man! There are 'many' who will worship, and are now worshipping, this first 'beast' rising from the evil imagination (the sea) of humanity! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 674004 9/24/2009 10:18 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
www.gty.org
John Macarthur will breal it down for ya... you can download sermons or check out his clips on you tube.. he is keepin it real in the end times...
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| coyote User ID: 674004 9/24/2009 10:20 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote | www.gty.org
John MacArthur will break it down for ya... you can download sermons or check out his clips on you tube.. he is keepin it real in the end times...
[link to www.gty.org]
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778528 9/24/2009 10:23 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The Beast is Obama...and he short of declared war against Israel just today.
Israel is the country of God's people whom he will defend...feel sorry for those that think otherwise. They will write their own death certificate and ticket to hell.
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual.
The 666 beast is the federal reserve bank. It is a CORRUPT monetary system which is the reserve currency of the Planet. This beast has finaced both sides of ALL major wars since 1913, when it gained contol of America.
The jews broke their convenant with God when they murdered his son, Jesus. God used the Romans the kick the Jews asses between 67 and 70 AD. God was VERY ANGRY with the Jews at this time, but not as angry as God is with them Now.
Current day Israel is satanic. Jesus told us 2 thousand years ago that this would be the case. Jesus was spot on.
Jesus revealed to you in Revelation that end times Israel would be destroyed.
Jesus also revealed the type of Jew that refused God's direct command to them. DO NOT return to Israel until your punishment was complete. The Jews told God to get fucked as is usual for those arrogant cunts. Anyway, let's use Jesus words from Revelation,,,
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778351
If you think that the modern day nation 'state' of Israel, governed by so many Jews who DO NOT acknowledge Jesus as the Christ, and thereby DO NOT accept the Authority of the Most High GOD in the affairs of mankind, represents the LORD GOD, you're very mistaken! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778528 9/24/2009 10:28 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The Beast is Obama...and he short of declared war against Israel just today.
Israel is the country of God's people whom he will defend...feel sorry for those that think otherwise. They will write their own death certificate and ticket to hell.
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual.
The 666 beast is the federal reserve bank. It is a CORRUPT monetary system which is the reserve currency of the Planet. This beast has finaced both sides of ALL major wars since 1913, when it gained contol of America.
The jews broke their convenant with God when they murdered his son, Jesus. God used the Romans the kick the Jews asses between 67 and 70 AD. God was VERY ANGRY with the Jews at this time, but not as angry as God is with them Now.
Current day Israel is satanic. Jesus told us 2 thousand years ago that this would be the case. Jesus was spot on.
Jesus revealed to you in Revelation that end times Israel would be destroyed.
Jesus also revealed the type of Jew that refused God's direct command to them. DO NOT return to Israel until your punishment was complete. The Jews told God to get fucked as is usual for those arrogant cunts. Anyway, let's use Jesus words from Revelation,,,
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
If you think that the modern day nation 'state' of Israel, governed by so many Jews who DO NOT acknowledge Jesus as the Christ, and thereby DO NOT accept the Authority of the Most High GOD in the affairs of mankind, represents the LORD GOD, you're very mistaken! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778528
Forgive me for being hasty. You do know about modern Israel! However, the Kingdom of GOD and of our LORD is NOT based on the doctrine of Humanitarianism, which is embraced and taught all over the world by a multitude of human beings. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778528 9/24/2009 10:34 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The Beast is Obama...and he short of declared war against Israel just today.
Israel is the country of God's people whom he will defend...feel sorry for those that think otherwise. They will write their own death certificate and ticket to hell.
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual.
The 666 beast is the federal reserve bank. It is a CORRUPT monetary system which is the reserve currency of the Planet. This beast has finaced both sides of ALL major wars since 1913, when it gained contol of America.
The jews broke their convenant with God when they murdered his son, Jesus. God used the Romans the kick the Jews asses between 67 and 70 AD. God was VERY ANGRY with the Jews at this time, but not as angry as God is with them Now.
Current day Israel is satanic. Jesus told us 2 thousand years ago that this would be the case. Jesus was spot on.
Jesus revealed to you in Revelation that end times Israel would be destroyed.
Jesus also revealed the type of Jew that refused God's direct command to them. DO NOT return to Israel until your punishment was complete. The Jews told God to get fucked as is usual for those arrogant cunts. Anyway, let's use Jesus words from Revelation,,,
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
If you think that the modern day nation 'state' of Israel, governed by so many Jews who DO NOT acknowledge Jesus as the Christ, and thereby DO NOT accept the Authority of the Most High GOD in the affairs of mankind, represents the LORD GOD, you're very mistaken!
Forgive me for being hasty. You do know about modern Israel! However, the Kingdom of GOD and of our LORD is NOT based on the doctrine of Humanitarianism, which is embraced and taught all over the world by a multitude of human beings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778528
The first 'beast' is NOT president Obama! It is a global system of economic and governmental control, a 'control system' if you will, based on the doctrine of Humanitarianism, NOT the 'doctrine of Christ'. It is being constructed right now and will be 'setup' in the very near future. Where? In Jerusalem! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778528 9/24/2009 10:36 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
What I find strange about this whole thing is TPTB are RIGGING an "armegeddon"! type scenario! And the average person can't seem to see thru the total bs of the whole thing! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711341
Those who go on being deceived, and who deserve to be deceived, will be! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778528 9/24/2009 10:43 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I have not read any of the responses that had it right. Every post is off base completely. No wonder the salt has lost it's savor. God help us, so much infiltration of the Body, so many false prophets. Not one person has correctly identified the symbols of prophecy in this thread, not one! Quoting: Wingedlion
Okay, so tell us what you know of the 'symbols of prophecy', please. |
| coyote User ID: 674004 9/24/2009 10:52 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote | you cannot worship both God & Money... We are about to see the wheat separated from the chaff |
| rosyshadow User ID: 771738 9/24/2009 11:13 AM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote | I can't believe people used to think Ronald Reagan was the antichrist or beast. As a kid in the 80's I could think of far worse candidates for that role. |
| Wingedlion  Wingedlion User ID: 778566 9/24/2009 11:35 AM
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I have not read any of the responses that had it right. Every post is off base completely. No wonder the salt has lost it's savor. God help us, so much infiltration of the Body, so many false prophets. Not one person has correctly identified the symbols of prophecy in this thread, not one!
Okay, so tell us what you know of the 'symbols of prophecy', please. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778528
Sea = large group pf people or many nations
Mountain or Head = Kingdom
Horn = bloodline
Beast = Satanic conglomerate of various satanic Kingdoms; also, a Principality that governs a particular group.
Woman who rides the Beast = could be church, but also could mean a Matriarchial system of government
In My opinion, the "Beast" is a principality that governs the (currently) six seperate but united Satanic kingdoms that rule over the kings of the Earth from behond the scenes. Eph.6:12 calls the "the rulers of the darkness of this world. The spawn of the fallen angels and human interbreeding...the Nephilim. They have ten seperate bloodlines of Nephilim rulers.
The Bible is a spiritual book that contains past, present, and future events, yet spiritual symbols can have all three involved in their description. for example; Rev. 17:8,"The Beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shll ascend out of the bottomless pit..." Here, you see that regardless of when this passage is read and interpreted, that there is a time when the Beat was (on the Earth) and is not(a time when the Beast was taken from the Earth) and ascends from the bottomless pit. (this happens at the beginning of the 3 and half year reign of Anti-Christ when Satan gains the keys to the bottomless pit and releases the locust spirits of the Nephilim and their leader of the Pit appolyon, the actual principality that is currently in the pit.
So currently the Beast is in the pit, and won't be released until Satan gains the keys to it. That is why the NWO cannot set up their kingdom. |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 1:50 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I am a Christian. However it seems like every pres. we have is the Anitchrist and every war and/or natural disaster it the end. See what I mean? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
Yes, it seems like this because almost every President has been influenced in some way or another by Satan and his minions of demons. First we need to realize and understand that there is no where in the whole entire Holy Bible where it specifically speaks of a singular Anti-Christ ruler that signs a 7-year peace-treaty with Israel and then breaks that same treaty and sets-up an Abomination Of Desolation half-way into that 7-years. Some verses of Scriptures may seem to portray this if you use a bunch of assumptions and suppositions, but that is all that you are using to say that there will be one singular Anti-Christ figure that tries and attempts to rule the World. Satan wants us to believe that there will be an Anti-Christ so that when Jesus Christ is the first being to be claiming to be Christ the Messiah, then so many more people will be turning against the real true Christ because the masses of the populations have been believing for so many centuries that an Anti-Christ figure would be preceeding the returning of Jesus Christ to this Earth.
Daniel's "70th Week" does not explicitly describe some singular Anti-Christ figure that arises during the End-Time Tribulation. In fact, the angel was telling Daniel that "from the time that the command went out..." and we know when that occured because he preceded that by saying, "when you began your supplication (prayer), a command went out..." so doesn't this much more seem like this prophecy is describing something that was occuring during Daniel's time ? The other place that people feel is referring to the Anti-Christ is in the book of Revelation, even though that term is never used once throughout that whole entire book, although some Bibles might substitute that term for the Beast, but that is so very inaccurate. The original languages do not at all say Anti-Christ. Plus, no where does it speak of him ruling for a 7 year-time span, except for that prophecy in Daniel, and that was clearly speaking about that time back then. Alot of people also just blindly assume that there is a HUGE gap of time between Daniel's 69th Week & Daniel's 70th Week, which means that you can basically make that happening whenever you want to, twisted verses to make something fit.
What the Bible DOES speak of is several anti-christs, non-proper. God describes people whom have the Holy Spirit residing within them, have come to learn the real truths of God, and then with all of that knowledge and understanding then turns-around and rejects God and his truths, then you become anti-Christ, meaning that you become against Christ because you came to truly know Him but then ultimately rejected Him because you thought that your ways of living life were better than God's could be. The books of John speak of there being many anti-Christs in the World, because there are many several that this happens with for all throughout the whole entire history of humanity.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 1:51 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I understand, but I have never felt it like now. I have been "protected" from this man. I know it is he. As corrupt as Clinton was, he didn't even make me nervous. And Bush was a good man, who unknowingly played into BO's hands with the Patriotic Act...it happened when the first Horsemen rode (9/11 attacks). I am willing to stake all that I am on this belief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
I understand why you might think that George W. Bush had protected us, especially since we hadn't had another terrorist-attack in this nation ever since 9/11/2001. However, this is merely a facade because we weren't have constant attacks under our past Presidents either. The terrorists are very incredibly patient and will wait 5, 10, 15 years in-between attacks. Plus, so many mountains of evidence essentially prove that there was government complicity for the events of 9/11, and these are based off from the cold hard facts, not just wild theories and/or opinionz.
Also, other than the Patriot Act, Bush enacted the John Warner Defense Authorization Act which essentially made Americans as "enemies of the state" if you're a protestor, a gun-owner, a returning veteran, etc., and so thus you can be captured, detained, imprisoned, tortured, and all the while without court, without a judge, without a jury, without a trial. This is just like the indefinite detention and harsh interrogation techniques utilized against the alleged terrorists that they have captured, only it'z for ordinary Americans.
Bush also signed an Executive-Order (Presidential Decision Directive # 51) that essentially outlined plans for Continuity Of Government, which is what is used in times of national or global crises. Whenever these kindz of plans ar drawn-up, like back in the 1980z, many people start chattering and asking questionz because that makes it seem like they will be manufacturing some sort of crisis that can then be used to turn-on those emergency-powers under the Executive-Order. This Order that Bush had signed outlines plans for bringing the Executive up and over all 3 of the Branches Of Government to make the Executive the sole authority for the nation. Part of the plans includes authority to suspend the constitution under a State-Of-Emergency of which isn't specifically and explicitly defined anywhere in the Order itself. This means that a State-Of-Emergency can exist just so long as the President declares one to exist, and the Emergency does not have to be investigated for 6 months into the declaration.
Also, the Patriot Act was so much more intrusive and un-American than we were even led to believe by the Republicans & Conservatives in Congress and in the establishment-controlled mainstream-media. Research it and you will see what I'm referring to.
Also, you can do research and be able to discover beyond the shadow of any doubt whatsoever that Prescott Bush (grandfather of George W. Bush) was heavily involved in funding the Nazi regime through the banks, namely through UBS and other banks also. This might seem insane, but it'z so very absolutely true. People can go to the Library Of Congress and find everything there that proves this, and plus you can do it online anyhow, but if you don't trust the Internet at all whatsoever, then you can go straight to the very source of it all.
Bush was also against the creation of the 9/11 Commission, and when he was faced with having to give testimony to that panel-body, he said that he would only do it if #1. He would not be under oath. #2. There would be no media present to record the testimony. #3. President Bush & Vice President Cheney would testify together. Don't those stipulations for testifying to the 9/11 Commission seem just a lil' bit fishy to you ?
Also, there is a clip of George W. Bush saying that he wasn't really too worried about Osama bin Laden, and that he just "doesn't spend alot of time on him to be honest with you." Even after all of the stuff that I hated about Bush, this like totally shocked me and at first I was like okay, certainly this was before 9/11 I'm sure, but then I discovered that it was just only 6 months after 9/11 during which he said this: [link to www.youtube.com]
Also, if you've been learning about this New World Order agenda, take a look at where Bush sublminal speaks about it, because HE knows about it, and they so love to throw what we don't know right in our very faces: [link to www.youtube.com]
Bill Clinton: [link to www.youtube.com]
Lou Dobbs: [link to www.youtube.com]
With all of these thingz AND so much more that I haven't mentioned here as of yet, it should seem very incredibly clear that Bush is just like all of our other Presidents, both Republican & Democrat, they are all working for the same exact powers, and Congress is essentially ceremonial for the members of Congress that are part of this massive agenda, but not all members are part of it, there could be anywhere from 25% - 50% of the members that are not part of it, there'z just no way of knowing 100% for sure.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 1:51 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
See, I thought the Antichrist would come from somewhere like Russia. You think he was borne in Kenya? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
Read my previous postingz in this threading regarding the Anti-Christ, and you will no longer have to worry about whom the Anti-Christ is gonna be, where the Anti-Christ is gonna be coming from, and when the Anti-Christ is going to be arising, you won't have to worry about any of that because it'z not even in the Bible that he will even exist.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 1:53 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Revelation 13-2:
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Don't full yourself. There is much we do not know about Obama...all his info is sealed. The leopard's habitat is Africa and Southern Asia. Or it could reference a black panther which is a leopard with spots still but barely noticeable in his black fur...and you can guess the connection to the black panthers. The bear's feet...he got his foundation in communism. That much we do know about his "white" family. The mouth of a lion could be a reference to his African heritage or his astrology symbol...he is a Leo. I've yet to figure out the 10 horns and 7 heads...how many czars does he have? LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
You don't have to figure-out the 7 Heads and 10 Horns because the book of Revelation itself makes it known what those thingz symbolize. Read Revelation 17, but more specifically, Revelation 17:5-18. I was surprised when I first saw this because I never realize that it tells what those thingz mean right in it'z own respective book, although much of Revelation is still not understood because only God can open-up the mind to give somebody understanding, and the baptized members of God's Church are a HUGE part of that, however, the Bible said that God will surely pour-out his spirit upon mankind in the last-days. If he has already done this so, then that means we don't have to be part of God's Church because His Spirit will have been poured-out on the World and we can now have understanding ourselves, but obviously you still would have to accept His Holy Spirit, you don't just automatically start understanding everything, you still have to be convicted of God and his purpose and plan for mankind, and begin opening-up your mind to the truths of God. This process will give you more and more understand, especially of Biblical-Prophecy, as the time goes on.
Aaron |
| coyote User ID: 674004 9/24/2009 1:54 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote | ? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 777396 9/24/2009 1:55 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
we haven't gone into famine, or nuclear war, or pandemic, or the mark YET!
What is the mark ?
What is the beast ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775009
I know one of them - the mark is most definitely a microchip...it will be connected to the chips embedded in the Antichrist, allowing him to control your thoughts, emotions, impulses, actions....and making it nearly impossible for you to trust and follow Jesus Christ, unless you can somehow get the chip removed. And since your desires are manipulated, you will have little desire to do so.
It's a really evil thing. |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 1:56 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
Ok, your best guess, how close are we? I think we will see it in our lives..
well you didn't ask me, but I personally believe we are witnessing lots of foreshadows and pictures -- types, antitypes and the like.
and I think they will increase. Quoting: rb 772810
You are so absolutely right that there has been foreshadowing going on, and the BIGGEST foreshadow we've had was on that very fatefull day of 9/11. 9/11 was incredibly symbolic, because it was portraying what would be occuring within the same nation at a later tme in the future. First, the United States Of America was struck economically through the destruction of the World Trade center complex. World Trade began it'z REAL destruction in 2007 after it'z peak, then it'z even greater destruction back in September/October 2008, and another huge wave is gonna be coming yet again that will trump even those thingz.
Then, next on 9/11 was the symbolism of the military destruction of the United States as symbolize through the Pentagon being struck after the World Trade Center was struck. The military destruction of the UNited State Of America is gonna be occuring next. We have seen our foreshadowing with much of the population even realizing it. Let us be clear though that God did not cause this foreshadowing to happen, although he did allow it to occur, but mankind did it himself, it has always been mankind that has done these evil and wicked things to himself, God is just allowing them to take place, and please believe that there is GREAT purpose in for allowing these kindz of thingz to occur. It is a gradual humbling process that is growing faster and faster and more intense ad the time goes on. The process of humbling is the only way to have humanity learn about the error of it'z ways, and even then, many will still not come to have faith in God and/or in Jesus Christ. We have the opportunity to be doing this though.
Aaron |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 315312 9/24/2009 2:02 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
See, I thought the Antichrist would come from somewhere like Russia. You think he was borne in Kenya?
Revelation 13-2:
And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Don't full yourself. There is much we do not know about Obama...all his info is sealed. The leopard's habitat is Africa and Southern Asia. Or it could reference a black panther which is a leopard with spots still but barely noticeable in his black fur...and you can guess the connection to the black panthers. The bear's feet...he got his foundation in communism. That much we do know about his "white" family. The mouth of a lion could be a reference to his African heritage or his astrology symbol...he is a Leo. I've yet to figure out the 10 horns and 7 heads...how many czars does he have? LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
Methinks the beast is a nation, that was, then wasnt then was again.
Amazing how little some people understand when they read revelations. |
| Mickeyblue User ID: 330969 9/24/2009 2:02 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote | " we haven't gone into famine, war....yet"? Who we kimo sabe?
The world is in a large state of all mentioned.
We are in the end of the 5th trump nearing the beginning of the 6th trump. tudy the trumps and ask for wisdom and find a study partner and pray about your anwsers and remember one important thing, Jesus comes in the 7th trump, He does not secretly come to 'rapture' anyone before hHe comes for all and is evident to all. Satan must come first beginning with the advent of the antii-christ which does not mean 'against Christ' but INSTEAD of Him. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 703510 9/24/2009 2:04 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The Beast is Obama...and he short of declared war against Israel just today.
Israel is the country of God's people whom he will defend...feel sorry for those that think otherwise. They will write their own death certificate and ticket to hell.
For a start, clown, a beast is ALWAYS a system, not an individual.
The 666 beast is the federal reserve bank. It is a CORRUPT monetary system which is the reserve currency of the Planet. This beast has finaced both sides of ALL major wars since 1913, when it gained contol of America.
The jews broke their convenant with God when they murdered his son, Jesus. God used the Romans the kick the Jews asses between 67 and 70 AD. God was VERY ANGRY with the Jews at this time, but not as angry as God is with them Now.
Current day Israel is satanic. Jesus told us 2 thousand years ago that this would be the case. Jesus was spot on.
Jesus revealed to you in Revelation that end times Israel would be destroyed.
Jesus also revealed the type of Jew that refused God's direct command to them. DO NOT return to Israel until your punishment was complete. The Jews told God to get fucked as is usual for those arrogant cunts. Anyway, let's use Jesus words from Revelation,,,
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778351
No.
The beast out of the Sea is obama. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 774515 9/24/2009 2:06 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
You're not even supposed to concern yourself with this. If you're a Christian, then it will come like a thief in the night; no man will know the date. Live therefore as a good Christian, such that if this very hour you were called before your Maker to account for your life, then you could do so in good conscience.
If you're not a Christian, then for all it matters you could wipe your arse with Revelation, I mean why do you even care about the mushroom-addled ravings of some old weirdo? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 703510 9/24/2009 2:07 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I have not read any of the responses that had it right. Every post is off base completely. No wonder the salt has lost it's savor. God help us, so much infiltration of the Body, so many false prophets. Not one person has correctly identified the symbols of prophecy in this thread, not one! Quoting: Wingedlion
you are a liar. |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 2:08 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I have not read any of the responses that had it right. Every post is off base completely. No wonder the salt has lost it's savor. God help us, so much infiltration of the Body, so many false prophets. Not one person has correctly identified the symbols of prophecy in this thread, not one! Quoting: Wingedlion
Have you read my postingz yet, lol ? One of the thingz that I state in them is that the book of Revelation itself even directly tells us what many of the symbols means, such as like the Dragon, the 2 Beasts, the 7 Heads, the 10 Horns, the woman, the Harlot-Whore, etc.
Aaron |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 703510 9/24/2009 2:09 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
I am a Christian. However it seems like every pres. we have is the Anitchrist and every war and/or natural disaster it the end. See what I mean?
Yes, it seems like this because almost every President has been influenced in some way or another by Satan and his minions of demons. First we need to realize and understand that there is no where in the whole entire Holy Bible where it specifically speaks of a singular Anti-Christ ruler that signs a 7-year peace-treaty with Israel and then breaks that same treaty and sets-up an Abomination Of Desolation half-way into that 7-years. Some verses of Scriptures may seem to portray this if you use a bunch of assumptions and suppositions, but that is all that you are using to say that there will be one singular Anti-Christ figure that tries and attempts to rule the World. Satan wants us to believe that there will be an Anti-Christ so that when Jesus Christ is the first being to be claiming to be Christ the Messiah, then so many more people will be turning against the real true Christ because the masses of the populations have been believing for so many centuries that an Anti-Christ figure would be preceeding the returning of Jesus Christ to this Earth.
Daniel's "70th Week" does not explicitly describe some singular Anti-Christ figure that arises during the End-Time Tribulation. In fact, the angel was telling Daniel that "from the time that the command went out..." and we know when that occured because he preceded that by saying, "when you began your supplication (prayer), a command went out..." so doesn't this much more seem like this prophecy is describing something that was occuring during Daniel's time ? The other place that people feel is referring to the Anti-Christ is in the book of Revelation, even though that term is never used once throughout that whole entire book, although some Bibles might substitute that term for the Beast, but that is so very inaccurate. The original languages do not at all say Anti-Christ. Plus, no where does it speak of him ruling for a 7 year-time span, except for that prophecy in Daniel, and that was clearly speaking about that time back then. Alot of people also just blindly assume that there is a HUGE gap of time between Daniel's 69th Week & Daniel's 70th Week, which means that you can basically make that happening whenever you want to, twisted verses to make something fit.
What the Bible DOES speak of is several anti-christs, non-proper. God describes people whom have the Holy Spirit residing within them, have come to learn the real truths of God, and then with all of that knowledge and understanding then turns-around and rejects God and his truths, then you become anti-Christ, meaning that you become against Christ because you came to truly know Him but then ultimately rejected Him because you thought that your ways of living life were better than God's could be. The books of John speak of there being many anti-Christs in the World, because there are many several that this happens with for all throughout the whole entire history of humanity.
Aaron Quoting: MuzicSoulWorldly
aaron you write too many words.
learn to say with not so much waste. |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 2:27 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
hi OP -- there is no timeline for the seals so we can't know if they've begun to open yet or not.
we can be reasonably certain the 6th seal hasn't been opened yet, as that appears to be a global cataclysm. evidently there's ample warning, as the earth's population moves underground to try and hide. Quoting: rb 772810
People always look at the book of Revelation, and also much of Biblical-Prophecy in-general, in a purely physical light, but we need to be looking at it in a spiritual light. Man hiding in the rocks of the caves and demanding for the rocks to fall upon them to hide them from the Wrath of the Lord is merely symbolic for people searching for death whom will not find it, amd asking to die because that is how great the Tribulation is for them, so much suffering, so much sorrow, but alas all for a great and awesome purpose, and God is not doing any of these things to us, it is mankind doing it to Himself, but God is just simple allowing those things to occur. These verses don't mean that mankind will literally be going underground to escape what is coming. It is just symbolizing the thoughts of not only human-beings in-general, but more specifically of those evil and wicked ones that want to escape the Wrath of the Lord, but they will not be able to.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 2:29 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
4 HORSEMEN.
What have the horsemen done so far. Stupid question I know, but, there is sooooo much out there it's confusing.....
again...do not let men or women tell you what is.
the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth if you listen.
4 Horsemen are 4.
0 have been released.
when 1 is released it is WHOA
hear what is the message inside the words.
hear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778318
Were you saying that the 5th Trumpet signifies the 1st "woe" upon mankind upon the Earth ? This would mean that the 1st Horsemen would be released during the 7th Seal & during the 5th Trumpet, but that doesn't seem to be what Revelation says in terms of which Seals the 4 Horsemen do their workz in.
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 2:40 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
That is a bit strange. I had a hazy dream last night about some guy preaching about revelation. He was talking about how it had all already happened and I questioned him asking when, then, did the second coming happen? I don't remember anything other than that.
was it connected to a sermon you listened too/
It was not, at least, not something I consciously remember. Though, I was sitting in a pew in some sort of small church-esque building I've never been in before. I havn't listened to a sermon in several years, and never once about revelations. I can't really think of anything to trigger a dream like that either, but it really could mean anything, I guess.
Hmmmmm... That is a tough one..Anyone here want to decode this one. It must mean something.
Beware of false prophets is what I get from that. If Revelation happens we will all know. God promises that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554141
Please understand that this poster of those dreams was not claiming to be any kind of a prophet, and you can only be a false-prophet if you're claiming to be a prophet in the very first place.
Also, it is true that we must indeed be very incredibly careful when it comes to prophets, because #1. we don't wanna be believing what a prophet says because he could very well be a false-prophet, but #2. at the very same time, we have to be careful that we don't happen to be shunning a REAL prophet, because if you believe that the Word Of God is true, then you will believe that there will be prophets before Jesus Christ returns to this Earth. Examine what the prophets says, but don't just automatically shun them or say that they are false-prophets right off the very bat. Most people will shun a prophet if that person even so much as slightly sins, because even God's people sin, God's very elect do sin because they are still carnal human-beings, however, they are indeed overcoming their transgressions better and better as time goes on, which is part of their molding-and-fashioning process, whereby it takes a lifetime of experiences to be changed. A prophet may even be seeming to have been false because something did not seem to come to pass as the propheted stated would be the case. Sometimes they say that something will be happening based upon what God has given to them, and they based their understandingz from off of what God had given to them to understand, and if God gives him more understanding of something later-on, then it would change what he said from before. This would more than likely be regarding the actual timing of events to be taking place, but not of the actual events themselves.
One other very beautiful thing is that was can indeed know the very date that Jesus Christ will be returning to this Earth. The verse of "No man knows the day or the hour, not even the angels in Heaven, and not even the Son Of Man." is rushed into so very hastily that we can't even see what this really is saying. This does not mean that nobody will ever know of this because if that were the case then Jesus Christ would not be able to open any of the 7 Seals of Revelation, as he is the only person that is worthy to be opening those Seals. I will explain more on this later/
Aaron |
| MuzicSoulWorldly User ID: 778720 9/24/2009 2:45 PM | | Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation? | Quote |
The color green is the color of the 'pale horse'! Green is Lucifer's color. Copper is Lucifer's metal because it turns green when exposed to the elements. The color of the 'Papal jewels' was green, 'they were the jewels of Lucifer, before his fall from Heaven.' It is no coincedence that 'In the window in Chartres Cathedral, Satan is depeicte 'with green skin and huge green eyes.' Aliens from other planets were often refered to as 'little green men'. The 'Hulk' in the TV series and in movies has 'green skin' and 'green blood', which gives it an obvious 'sacriligious quality'. The green 'Hulk' had an 'instinctive dislike of human race' throughout the series and the movies, just as Lucifer does! And today we have the worldwide 'Green' movement, that appears to be benevolent, wanting to save the earth and humanity, but in reality, through the application of their nanotechnologies, they are doing exactly the opposite in many 'untested' and as yet unseen ways! The 'pale horse' carries a rider whose name is 'Death, and Hades followed him; and they were given power over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.' The 'sword' is a symbol of the 'warrior caste', those in the military, with it virtues, valour, and its office, POWER! The use of their POWER in making war, and intimidation through the exploitation of FEAR, causes 'famine', both literally, and spiritually. The creation of 'bioweapons', and the accidental or purposeful release of them causes 'pestilence', or diseases. The 'wild beasts of the earth' are the basic animal instincts that are 'subjugated or uncontrolled' which take over those who worship Lucifer! There is much more that could be added, but this is where we are in Revelation.
 How do you know all this? Makes total sense. The Horsemen were a mystery to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303
This poster is absolutely correct, because the word for "pale" in the original Greek actually means "green", which is very Symbolic because you usually think of the color green when you think of evil spirits, or the color of the blood of aliens, or the color of the aliens themselves, or the color of the Green Revolution, the color of our paper-money, the color that copper turns into when exposed to oxygen (our Statue Of Liberty was originally of a copper-color, but became green over-time as it was exposed to the oxygen). Everything around us is green, so there is so very much symbolism contained in that color.
Aaron |
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