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Where are we in the book of Revelation?

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Messenger
User ID: 137750
9/24/2009 2:49 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

CHRISTIANS WIL BE HERE WHEN THE WICKED ONE ENFORCES THE MARK. THIS MAY HAPPEN WITH THE VERI-CHIP OR RFID BRACLET ATTACTCHED INTO THE RIGHT WRIST, RIGHT HAND OR FOREHEAD DURING THE COMING H1N1 FLU VACCINES. DO NOT TAKE THE VACCINE!!!!.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE SEEING THE FOUR HORSEMAN RIDE. SAINTS OF GOD WILL GIVE THEIR LIVE FOR JESUS WHEN THE 5th SEAL IS OPENED SOON.

The following is a clip is The Order Of Two Worlds a great book found in the book section of Amazon.com

"A few years before the catching away of the Saints, tremendous and terrible events took place on a worldwide scale. As spiritual darkness encompassed the globe, demons worked feverishly to solidify plans in their attempt to obstruct Almighty God’s purpose for His creation.
This was the terrible time in world history when the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse would carry through with their assignments in an unbridled wild ride across planet earth.

The rider on the White Horse trampled the earth with promises of peace and religious unity. “And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering and to conquer.”

Unknown to the majority of Global citizens, the mask this rider wore was an illusion, a covering allowing the horse and rider the ability to work behind the scenes bringing about a false peace through religious deception.

Following him, the rider on the red horse carrying a bloody sword brought wars to the earth; so many that soon it was beyond mans ability to bring an end to any of them. “And there went out another horse that was red: power was given unto him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.”

This vicious warrior sliced his multiple weapons throughout the lands until “kingdom was now against kingdom, and nation was against nation,” as the rider on the red horse stripped peace from throughout the world.

Following closely, the evil rider on the black horse ripped through the nations bringing famine to much of the world. “And I beheld a black horse, and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts saying, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see that you hurt not the oil and the wine.”

And finally in fast succession came the rider on the pale horse. “And I looked and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him. And power was given to him over a forth part of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”

The first phase of these days were the “beginning of sorrows,” that Jesus Christ warned of in the Scriptures. “And when you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, be not troubled: for such things must be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there shall be earthquakes in different places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginning of sorrows.”
Messenger
User ID: 137750
9/24/2009 3:02 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

THIS WAS ALSO WRITTEN IN THE BOOK...THE ORDER OF TWO WORLDS A FEW YEARS AGO. NOW WE SEE IT COME TO LIFE BEFORE OUR VERY EYES. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS BOOK TO ALL CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS WHO WANT TO UNDERSATND THE BIBLE,THE BOOK OF REVELATION, AND THE TRUTH.

"It seemed strange that dozens of Church Camps were literally being taken over by FEMA. These camps were now under FEMA’S total control, with their rules and regulations. The churches that at one time made the rules were no longer allowed to do so according to the new FEMA mandates. In addition, FEMA hosts had the right to tell the storm victims [of KATRINA]that their mandatory stay would be several months at many of these camps. In addition to internal problems from the horrific storms that unmercifully blew thorough the Gulf States, the probability of future disease epidemics loomed on the horizon. Such diseases could easily be transported from the Gulf States to other parts of the nation, and indeed throughout world.

During the same time frame, the dread “bird flu,” or Avian Flu was also in the minds of many Americans. Making its appearance in the Asian nations, the Bird Flu had already killed several people.

This killer flu had not yet made its way into the Americas, but with worldwide travel it was only matter of time. Some U.S. Government officials raised the alarm. However, their Government had failed to import adequate doses of the only drug at the time, used to assist in healing from ravages of this disease. Unfortunately, there is little human immunity to this type of flu. There is no vaccine and no drug related method for prevention for the Avian Flu to date.

However, this virulent virus had been recently RECREATED in an American laboratory.

In a bold news conference in October 2005, the President publicly made the statement that in case of a pan epidemic in the United States of the Avian Flu “it might be necessary to use the Military to quarantine the citizens.” That statement alone should have caused the hair on the each listener’s head to stand on end.

Credit for the following quote: wingtv.com

Experts fear a strain of flu that infects birds will mutate to easily pass from person to person. Such a mutation could kill millions of people. In an attempt to better understand what could happen if bird flu mutates sufficiently to spread from person to person, researchers said Wednesday they have recreated the Spanish flu virus that killed as many as 50 million people in 1918.

The 1918 virus, like today’s bird flu, occurred naturally in birds, but mutated, infected people and then spread through the human population.

We find it kind of eerie that there are some parallels between 1918 and the current h5 viruses, said Dr. Jeffery Taubenberger of the U.S. Armed Forces Institute of Pathology who led the gene-sequencing team. Recreating the virus carries little risk, researchers say. The virus was created using genome information recovered from a victim of the 1918 pandemic who was buried in the Alaskan permafrost. President Bush moved the issue to the forefront Tuesday when he said the military could be used to enforce quarantines in areas of the country in the event of a pandemic. Mr. Bush said the best way to deal with a pandemic would be to isolate it.

For American citizens to be at the mercy of the U.S. or any other Military is in direct contradiction to the Constitution of the United States. Quarantine could possibly escalate into a state of martial law in the nation.

Of course, Government Officials quickly added that a change to the existing law might have to be made for the Military to intervene. The time was quickly arriving in the “land of the free” when it’s beloved Constitution was slowly, but surely, being torn apart one step at a time.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 137750
9/24/2009 3:20 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

I UGRE . . .I BEG everyone to hear the call of Almighty God. The Holy Spirit is giving another chance for you to come to Jesus NOW.

Things are moving really fast . . . get ready!!!!!!
MuzicSoulWorldly
User ID: 778720
9/24/2009 4:12 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

we haven't gone into famine, or nuclear war, or pandemic, or the mark YET!





What is the mark ?

What is the beast ?





I know one of them - the mark is most definitely a microchip...it will be connected to the chips embedded in the Antichrist, allowing him to control your thoughts, emotions, impulses, actions....and making it nearly impossible for you to trust and follow Jesus Christ, unless you can somehow get the chip removed. And since your desires are manipulated, you will have little desire to do so.

It's a really evil thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777396



It might seem like the micro-chip will be the infamously legendary Mark Of The Beast, but why are we interpreting the book of Revelation so literally and physically, especially when we also tout that other portionz of the book are not to be meant in a literal or physical manner ? The words seal, sign, mark, and token are used interchangably throughout the Bible to describe God's Sabbath. The Sabbath was spoken of since the very day that God rested on the 7th day, and he sancitifed it and made that day Holy. The Sabbath was to be for a sign that would differentiate His people from everybody else on the Earth. "His people" doesn't describe the Jews, or the Israelis, or the Gentiles, but it describes anybody and everybody that keeps and follows God's Laws, and not just some of His Laws.

Everybody wants to nail the Sabbath to the cross as if it was not still to be a sign between God and His people. Then people say, "Well then that means we need to still be doing animal-sacrifices, right?" The thing is that there is God's Laws (10 Commandments that He wrote with His finger TWICE onto those stone-tablets), and then there is Moses's Laws. Moses's Laws are what were abolished upon the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. There was no need for animal-sacrifices anymore before those animal-sacrifices were symbolizing the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and once that sacrifice occured, there was no need for the symbolic animal-sacrifices any longer.

God never ever ever abolished the Sabbath as a sign between Him and His people. This Sabbath-keeping has acted like a test-command, because if you cannot even obey the most basic of God's Laws, then how can God ever come to know you if you don't even have enough faith in him to trust the Bible that it was to be a sign forever and ever between Him and His people ? This Sabbath-keeping is what God's Seal is all about. In Revelation 7:2-3, "And I saw another angel ascending from the East, having the seal of the living God... Saying, 'Hurt not the Earth, neither the sea, or the trees until we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.' " So thus, it would make much more sense that the Mark Of God matches the Mark Of The Beast in-concept.

The Mark Of God is the keeping of the Sabbath Day as the weekly Holy Day as a sign between God and His people, so the Mark Of The Beast would be the opposite of God's Mark. This seems to mean that the Mark Of The Beast is the keeping of the Beast's day of reverence, which is on Sunday. The Mark Of The Beast being in hand or in your forehead symbolizes yours works (hands) and your thoughts (forehead) that you use to either follow God's Laws or the Beast's Laws.

Just much like Easter, Christmas, and many other holidays, Satan and his minions of fallen-angels known as demons have perpetuated the blatant lie that Sunday is the Lord's Day, when it is most certainly not true. The Catholic Church's own encyclopedia even states that their Church had no Biblical authority to change the Sabbath-Day from that of Saturday to that of Sunday.

Now, make no mistake about it, they can still indeed use a system like a micro-chip or a physical mark of some kind in order to enforce the keeping of the Sunday-Observance, it could become the Universal Sunday Law, because maybe some miracle appears to have happened that is so profound that it causes all of our leaders to bow down to Satan and implement laws since it'z so clear to them that they must follow what they feel is of God, but it is actually of Satan. So we must be very careful to understand the stark difference between what actually IS the Mark Of The Beast and what is the system that that will be utilized to ENFORCE this mark and the worshipping of the Image Of The Beast.

There is no authority in the New Testament of the Bible for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday for the observance of the Sabbath. The Romand Catholic Church had legislated as to how the Lord's Day should be observed, and people have been blindly following the laws of the Catholic Church instead. Even people that so despise the Catholic Church are not aware that the keeping of Sunday as the Lord's Day is following the laws that stemmed from the Catholic Church, and it's just like Easter and Christmas

Please don't take my word for these thingz though, as you need to examine them for yourself. Read and study the Bible and use a Concordance along with the Bible so that you can know what the original words mean, and not what the English translations mean, because the meanings are in the original words.

Aaron

Last Edited by MuzicSoulWorldly on 9/24/2009 at 4:15 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778263
9/24/2009 4:16 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

2009/2012 will be the last part of tribulation.
MuzicSoulWorldly
User ID: 778805
9/24/2009 4:24 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

2009/2012 will be the last part of tribulation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778263



So you do agree with me then that the Anti-Christ does not indeed exist ? Barack Obama hasn't been around for 3.5 years yet, so this should be further-proving that this myth of a singular Anti-Christ figure was nothing more than a perpetraton of Satan in the minds of many weak-minded individuals, and it has spread like wild-fires over the many centuryz.

Aaron
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778263
9/24/2009 4:42 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

The virus was created using genome information recovered from a victim of the 1918 pandemic who was buried in the Alaskan permafrost. President Bush moved the issue to the forefront Tuesday when he said the military could be used to enforce quarantines in areas of the country in the event of a pandemic. Mr. Bush said the best way to deal with a pandemic would be to isolate it.



This is out tax at work, hmm do you also donated your CPU time to projects like genome @ home in the past years?

Ah well that served very well it seems, in place of finding better cures they have explored ways to kill more efficently recreating the DNA of deadly viruses long dead.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778263
9/24/2009 4:45 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

2009/2012 will be the last part of tribulation.



So you do agree with me then that the Anti-Christ does not indeed exist ? Barack Obama hasn't been around for 3.5 years yet, so this should be further-proving that this myth of a singular Anti-Christ figure was nothing more than a perpetraton of Satan in the minds of many weak-minded individuals, and it has spread like wild-fires over the many centuryz.

Aaron
 Quoting: MuzicSoulWorldly


I belive you are correct people keep looking for a anti christ like he is a sigle person and the true anti christ the NWO which is formed and lead by all the most wiked peoples nowe alive in the world keep furter his plan to destroy manking.

next 3 years are going to be not a nice sight, be prepared, and have faith in the Lord.
kb
User ID: 772658
9/24/2009 5:07 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

first
its the appoculet
revelations is in the king james bible as the new english bible. fint the book of the appoculet here
[link to www.drbo.org]
which has all the 7 books not found in the king james
as for where are we. we are it
kb
User ID: 772658
9/24/2009 5:08 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

first
its the appoculet
revelations is in the king james bible as the new english bible. fint the book of the appoculet here
[link to www.drbo.org]
which has all the 7 books not found in the king james
as for where are we. we are it
 Quoting: kb


wasent going to signe in but....
Anonymous
User ID: 805644
10/29/2009 8:54 AM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

I think we are just before the 6th seal. There suposidly is to be a massive earhquake probably the worst that has ever been recorded in history. it supposed dammage 1/3 of the earth. this is what proceeds the 6th seal I am thinking the big one california has dreading, then again perhaps a meteor impact that could cause a hudge earthquake.

Other then that I am not sure.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 762134
10/29/2009 9:10 AM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303


These people seem to have their collective fingers on the pulse! [link to www.thetrumpet.com] You could also mail Mr. [link to www.ronaldweinland.com] he believes he is one of God's end time witnesses mentioned in the above book, or you could look here [link to www.thetwowitnesses.com] these people think they know [link to www.thetwowitnesses.com] you could try these [link to www.greatbiblestudy.com] or you could just as well look at the faces of the shoppers next time your in the mall, that's usually a very good indication.

Hope this was a help
The Professor
User ID: 660063
10/29/2009 11:35 AM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303


I disagree.

It is not difficult to understand; it is IMPOSSIBLE to understand.

It is indeed ironic that a book called Revelation reveals nothing, but instead renders its message undecipherable through the use of enigmatic mystic symbolism.

As I've said before, If God really wanted us to know something, He would tell us in words that everyone could readily understand. An omniscient God would certainly know how to do that.

Actually, I believe that Martin Luther (for whom the Lutheran Church was named) said it best:

“About this book of the Revelation of John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinion....I consider it to be neither Apostolic nor prophetic...They are supposed to be blessed who keep what is written in this book; and yet no one knows what that is, to say nothing of keeping it. This is just the same as if we did not have the book at all. And there are far better books available for us to keep” (Luther, Luther's Works, vol. 35, pages 398-399).

John Remsberg also describes the book of Revelation accurately:

"Revelation is the only book in the Bible which claims to be the word of God. At the same time it is the book of which Christians have always been the most suspicious. It is addressed to the seven churches of Asia, but the seven churches of Asia rejected it. Concerning the attitude of ancient churchmen toward it, Dionysius, Bishop of Alexandria, says: 'Divers of our predecessors have wholly refused and rejected this book, and by discussing the several parts thereof have found it obscure and void of reason and the title forged.'

'The most learned and intelligent of Protestant divines,' says the Edinburgh Review, 'almost all doubted or denied the canonicity of the book of Revelation.' It is a book which, Dr. South said, 'either found a man mad or left him so.' Calvin and Beza both forbade their clergy to attempt an explanation of its contents. Luther says: 'In the Revelation of John much is wanting to let me deem it either prophetic or apostolical'" (Preface to N.T., 1524).

Remsberg's quotes can be found in his book The Christ, p. 41. The complete book is also on line and the quotes can be found at at Chapter 3, Acts, Catholic Epistles, and Revelation, at the following link:

[link to www.positiveatheism.org]

My experience has shown that there are probably as many interpretations of the book of Revelation as there are Christians. Those who claim that God is not the author of confusion might do well to consider whether or not the book of Revelation is truly God-inspired.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 783896
10/29/2009 11:38 AM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.


These people seem to have their collective fingers on the pulse! [link to www.thetrumpet.com] You could also mail Mr. [link to www.ronaldweinland.com] he believes he is one of God's end time witnesses mentioned in the above book, or you could look here [link to www.thetwowitnesses.com] these people think they know [link to www.thetwowitnesses.com] you could try these [link to www.greatbiblestudy.com] or you could just as well look at the faces of the shoppers next time your in the mall, that's usually a very good indication.

Hope this was a help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 762134

they were found to be full of shit...!!!!!
drhoecker
User ID: 799446
10/29/2009 11:41 AM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778303

the pale horse is the usa war machine.we are or i have seen the dead in christ under the altar and they are in white raimnent now as it snowed,as well my face appears again as proof.see my post of proof.the lambs eye is a bust of me as well.the next event is the lisbon earth quake.the big one.this is where we are.ready to open #7
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 762134
10/29/2009 12:08 PM
Re: Where are we in the book of Revelation?Quote

How much more to go?
I red Revelations the other day and it's so hard to understand.


These people seem to have their collective fingers on the pulse! [link to www.thetrumpet.com] You could also mail Mr. [link to www.ronaldweinland.com] he believes he is one of God's end time witnesses mentioned in the above book, or you could look here [link to www.thetwowitnesses.com] these people think they know [link to www.thetwowitnesses.com] you could try these [link to www.greatbiblestudy.com] or you could just as well look at the faces of the shoppers next time your in the mall, that's usually a very good indication.

Hope this was a help

they were found to be full of shit...!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783896

???? The people in the shopping mall ????
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