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Message Subject What are your objections to Christianity?
Poster Handle brandon1234
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You can kill infants but would you? Is this not part free will? And if someone was to kill an infant whose to say that it wasn't suppose to happen?

You are seriously telling me right now that there is nothing definitively wrong with killing infants? But this is naturally where you end up if you start your worldview without an omnipotent, good God who defines what is good and evil. It's very sad...

My viewpoint is that if it happens it happened for a reason and by the very nature of it occurring that reason is always good. Often an event may appear to be bad but in regards to the larger scheme of things, the bigger picture, it was meant to be. One should regard morals as a guideline to follow but keep in mind there is an exception to every rule and one cannot always fully know the circumstances surrounding an event.

It happened for a reason? Who's reason is that? Are you now inferring that a conscious being is determiining what happens on earth? Where did you get this belief from?

However, your view that things that appear bad can actually be working for good is a Christian belief (see Romans 8:28). Only if a good God is working through every event and redeeming it can things that are bad be turned into good. But you haven't explained how you got to this point. I want to see how you get to this point.

The way I get there is by seeing that from the beginning of his creation, God created it good. However, man fell and chose sin over God - man wanted to be like God. However, from the moment that man fell, God gave a promise that one would come who would redeem everything and make it right again (Genesis 3:15). However, a good God must also be a just God - therefore, God had to do a work to fulfill the just requirement and also extend grace. He did this by sending his Son to take the sinner's place (see Romans 3:26). Therefore, if God has redeemed not only the sinners, but also the entire world, everything bad thing is actually going to be redeemed for his purposes.

That's how I get to that point. :)

I define evil as ignorance and we are all ignorant to one degree or another or we would be like God... perfect. Without ignorance there would be nothing to learn. No interplay within this reality matrix. Bo "Game" to be played.

Where do you get that definition from? Are you the originator of everything you believe? If so, that doesn't sound like the most reliable system - sorry. :)

Is ignorance the entire essence of evil? Does murder play some role in this evil? What about child molesters or rapists?

The definition of evil for the Christians come from who God is in himself. God is holy and perfect and therefore every way that he wants us to live comes from his character. That's why he commands not to murder, not to steal, not do anything unloving, because God is love (I John 4:16).

Is not God synonymous with nature? and are we not part of nature? A hand of God?(perhaps only a finger?) If we are part of God's expression how can our actions go against his will? How do we know that we are not to "interfere"? How do we know that those who try and prevent this interference are not suppose to?

God is not synonymous with nature - God created nature. We cannot ultimately go against God's plan because he is working everything together for good (Romans 8:28). However, God desires that we honor him through what we do. This is what he created us for. We know that we're not supposed to "interfere" because God has told us so in the Bible. God is able to work through the worst of mankind (e.g. the crucifixion), but he still has a right to require obedience from people and those who rebel against that are still liable for judgment.

So basically, what I'm saying is that God is the answer for everything because he provides an answer for those things that truly are wrong with the world today.
 
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