Just checking into this thread.


OP has a very gentle and tolerant nature which serves him well and he speaks sincerely from the center of who he is and what he feels is true - but as we are all heir to - we are at places of being or consciousness (awareness) and as such, we gravitate to certain levels of understanding that help us to relate to our lives, to our world and to those around us.


This is a 3D world and necessarily referential in nature - and so we use all that is around us, including "knowledge" to determine our position in life and relative to the cosmos - and verily unto one another. It's how we distinguish and discern who we are, where we are, where we wish to go and how to get there in mind, body or spirit.


But as younger souls are more heir to do, they do not account for the fact that the underlying status of themselves as the "knower" can and will change and evolve, albeit over many hundreds of incarnations - and thus- what they hold as relatively true today may indeed be of no use to them a hundred lifetimes from now as their position in consciousness changes. And so they become very resolute "believers" in what they hold as true and cannot even imagine NOT believing as they do, at least in this lifetime - especially when their knowledge set seems so airtight and complete - promising them safe haven in the next life - which they assume is their last.


But as this forum is testament to, we are a one-room classroom with all ages of souls and levels of consciousness and being - which makes it confusing for younger souls and even leading them to contentiousness in defending their positions when they feel they are under attack - and thus, it becomes all but impossible to impart to them what might be considered "higher" truth, wisdom or perspective based upon a higher vantage point that those of older soul age can offer. Having said this, I could flatly tell the OP that all that he posits is wrong and doesn't even exist - that it is mythology run amuck - and his only reaction has to be one of incredulity and subsequently rendering me as a lesser knower or lesser consciousness. So be it. But the real opportunity in forums such as this is to rub shoulders with souls that are far down the road from you and glean much wisdom.



The sad reality though, is that young souls cannot intuit when they are in the presence of an older soul for they base all their discernment upon whether or not the other agrees with them or not. Religion is spiritual quicksand. You only sink down until and unless you can break free. But you can't break free until you realize you are sinking down. And that takes an expanded point of reference that young souls do not normally possess.


You will continue on this path, OP as you feel it serves you, but it leads nowhere real. Reality is found in life and the first axiom of life is that all is life and that life always continues. There is no stopping point or penalty or reward system, etc, which is what I assume is what you believe. It is wrong. The sooner you intuit this, the sooner you can begin to see clearly and to grow accordingly.

Shalom