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I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question!
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Theoferrum
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9/29/2009 5:10 PM
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Hmm. And who called the council of Nicea?
Emperor Constantine called 318 bishops and the developed the creed through the process of compromise in 325 A.D. Funny the leader of a earthly nation, not the leader of the church, or churches called such a meeting, and it was supposedly of God. The creed was written to address three major controversies during that time.
1. The Arian contraversy, which had to do with the doctrine of the Trinity, especially the relationship of the Father and the Son; 2. The Appolinarian Controversy, with reference to the nature of Christ; 3. The Pelagian Controversy over questions relating to sin and salvation.
Funny if this creed was God born, why was it born of a council gathered together by a man with a political agenda and why was it used to address controversies between bishops, who according to you are inspired by God by the laying on of hands? Quoting: gierrmo 697909
Camel and Knat Syndrome, homey.
The Apostalic Creed, from which this one was drawn, says basically the same thing and all Protestants believe basically the same thing and they got it from the Catholics - thus, if the Catholic Church is antichristian then so are all the protestants.
Point is, as long as the Catholic Church maintains these Cardinal Doctrines of the Faith they can not be the Antichristian system of the enddays.
I would remind the reader that the Catholic Church has been reciting the creed above every Sunday for 2000 years.
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Theoferrum
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9/29/2009 5:13 PM
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Here is the Apostalic Creed - compare it yourself with the Niacene Creed which, I would remind the reader, the entire Church believed in for about 1500 years before Rosicrucianer Fartin Luther was born and, if I am not mistaken, the majority of main stream protestantism affirms both creeds and always have.
The Apostalic Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord; who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried; he descended into hell; the third day he rose again from the dead; he ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic Church; the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting.
AMEN.
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gierrmo
User ID: 697909
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9/29/2009 5:30 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
Why defend one man made creed with another?
And why assume by my post that I defend Luther or any other protestant denomination? I have no need for any man made creed period, nor do I live by any. The insprired word is perfect, I need nothing more.
II Timothy 3:
15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
If the man of God may be made made perfect through his knowledge of the scriptures, why make a creed to live by? Look to the word alone, the answers are there.
Nicean creed--result of earthly ruler Constantine's calling a meeting of bishops to hammer out man made contraversy, not God breathed. |
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Theoferrum
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9/29/2009 5:35 PM
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Theoferrum
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9/29/2009 5:35 PM
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Why defend one man made creed with another?
And why assume by my post that I defend Luther or any other protestant denomination? I have no need for any man made creed period, nor do I live by any. The insprired word is perfect, I need nothing more.
II Timothy 3:
15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
If the man of God may be made made perfect through his knowledge of the scriptures, why make a creed to live by? Look to the word alone, the answers are there.
Nicean creed--result of earthly ruler Constantine's calling a meeting of bishops to hammer out man made contraversy, not God breathed. Quoting: gierrmo 697909
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."
Without the Catholic Church, homey, you wouldn't have a Bible to read...
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Padre Pederasty
User ID: 781481
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9/29/2009 5:46 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
Nazi
Pedophile
Pope |
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Theoferrum
User ID: 779400
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9/29/2009 5:48 PM
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Nazi
Pedophile
Pope
You just slandered someone you don't know, and judged yourself :
"The same judgement you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."
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Theoferrum
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9/29/2009 5:51 PM
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For all the protestants out there who don't know what Catholics believe here it is.
We recite this Creed before Mass and have every Sunday for 2000 years :
The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come.
Amen. Quoting: Theoferrum
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
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9/29/2009 6:43 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
I hear Jerusalem Bells a Ringing
Roman Cavalry Quoirs a Singing
Viva la Vida my Sword and Shield
My Missionaries in a Foreign Field
For some reason I can't explain
I know Saint Peter won't call my name
Never an honest word
But that was when I ruled the World...
Are you stupid??
No - but you just judged yourself as being so... Quoting: Theoferrum
Are you a genius? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 6:56 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
Since the visions are not visible to all there is some amount of psycholsamaticism involved - Quoting: Theoferrum
Psycho-something, you can be sure.
And since you're so big on the corrections,
you could at least get your big impressive words right.
It's psychosomatism
as in psychosomatic
1 : of, relating to, concerned with, or involving both mind and body <the psychosomatic nature of man — Herbert Ratner>
2 : of, relating to, involving, or concerned with bodily symptoms caused by mental or emotional disturbance <psychosomatic symptoms> <psychosomatic medicine> |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:04 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
This should get you started - Joseph Smith taught that... Quoting: Theoferrum
You know David, you really should try to emulate Joseph. He also thought he was The Greatest. Cult-leader would seem to be right up your alley. Or you could have your own compound just like Vernon Howell. He thought he was The Man too. Sure are a lot of you guys coming in His name... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:05 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
I see you watching. Turn around, look behind you.
Just kidding. Psych. Boo! Did I spook you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:06 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
I am a Prophet of the Lord here to warn you. Now you are without excuse..Please come out of her..Please....
No offense, but I doubt a Prophet of the Lord would appear on GLP... Quoting: Theoferrum
What?! But you...
With the judgment you use... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 782211
United States
9/29/2009 7:08 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
I am a Prophet of the Lord here to warn you. Now you are without excuse..Please come out of her..Please....
No offense, but I doubt a Prophet of the Lord would appear on GLP...
What?! But you...
With the judgment you use... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768019
Oh, the irony. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:11 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
[ link to www.olphnm.org]
So he said.
Very good - now email the Priest and ask him if he charismated me or not.
His name is Father Kurt.
What it amounts to is you can't admit the fact that you were not even aware that Eastern Catholic Churches even existed which, had you read your catechism, you would have been.
Thus, I doubt that you are Catholic, since you judged that I was not.
Brilliant. I am not a Catholic.
Does call no man Father Kurt know your story and your claims about yourself, mighty godsteel? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:13 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
C'mon Davey, don't be afraid.
Come out into the light.
Confess. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:14 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
The "church" is the collective of believers in Jesus Christ,
not the Roman Catholic Church.
No, it is the collective of believers who have been baptised into the Lord Y'shua Messiah. Quoting: Theoferrum
Jesus Christ.
Yes. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 782211
United States
9/29/2009 7:17 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
C'mon Davey, don't be afraid.
Come out into the light.
Confess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768019
You'd poke a badger in the eye with a spoon wouldn't you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:17 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
Jesus Christ does not need any man to do what He wants to do.
"How shall they believe unless one preach and how shall they preach if they are not sent" Quoting: Theoferrum
And if that man is not you, and if that man is not me,
The Lord GodAlmighty's Purposes will be served in another.
God does not need you or the pope's approval. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:18 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
C'mon Davey, don't be afraid.
Come out into the light.
Confess.
You'd poke a badger in the eye with a spoon wouldn't you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 782211
No.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:22 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
The Rock was Peter's Statement of Faith.
A statement of faith can not be an object.
For any out there with ears to hear and eyes to see:
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:16-18
And for over 1500 years not one living saint from the church doubted that Peter was the Rock on which Y'shua built his church until Rosicrucian Luther suggested otherwise. Quoting: Theoferrum
Of course "faith" can be the "object," literally and figuratively.
Diagram the sentence, Professor.
And why would the Lord Jesus Christ refer to his great disciple Peter as "it." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 782211
United States
9/29/2009 7:24 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
C'mon Davey, don't be afraid.
Come out into the light.
Confess.
You'd poke a badger in the eye with a spoon wouldn't you?
No.
.223 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768019
LOL |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:25 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
I study the Bible and listen to a few good teachers on the radio. I like John MacArthur and Chuck Swindoll.
Oh, a Dallas Fan. You know, they believe the George Peters wrote the classic on the premill faith called the Theocratic Kingdom - did you know that? Well, in that book he, along with all the "Kingdom Theologians" decided that the church today does not live under any New Covenant, but under the Abrahamic Covenant renewed. Did you know that? In other words, the Protestant churches, when they walked away from the Catholic Church, walked away from the New Covenant and they will be judged by the Abrahamic Covenant. That should give you something to think about. Quoting: Theoferrum
Dallas? No, I mentioned twu guys that IO listen to that I greatly respect.
Thanks, I think a lot... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:26 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
The same judgement you judge others with, you are quilty of youself. Quoting: Theoferrum
eight hundred and seventy three... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:27 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
So OP
Whats what the ejaculation thing on the shroud?
You are giving Catholics a bad name...
And then your avatar..it all adds up..you are some type of deviant.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 521573 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:29 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
Chickenshit.
The same judgment... we know.
Do you still have any courage of your convictions or what? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:31 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
C'mon Theo. You can do it. Half hour 'till you gotta go. Be brave. |
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nicole
User ID: 713881
United States
9/29/2009 7:31 PM
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Call me blasphemous if you wish....but you are blaspheming your lord.
"If you have it, you don't need to have anything else, and if you don't have it, it doesn't matter much what else you have." - Sir James M. Barrie
"The undisturbed mind is like the calm body water reflecting the brilliance of the moon. Empty the mind and you will realize the undisturbed mind." - Yagyu Jubei
nicoleglp@gmail.com |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768164
United States
9/29/2009 7:33 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
What the fuck is wrong with you?????????? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768019
United States
9/29/2009 7:37 PM | | Re: I just converted to Catholicism - Ask me a Question! | Quote |
Catholics didn't teach you this. I doubt any man did.
You studied yourself. But who approves of what?
You are 100% correct - that is the result of a personal study of the four Gospel's and specifically the differences between them which I reconciled. There are no contradictions in the word, only in some people's understanding of the word.
As far as who approves of what - I doubt that this particular study would ever be proposed to the magisterium of the church so each person can decide for themselves.
It, however, explains all the so-called contradictions. Quoting: Theoferrum
Dude,
I engage you because I know how smart you are. Truly brilliant even.
And I know you could be a mighty man of God.
But only if you ever can humble yourself and repent of your most horrible sins of pride, egotism and narcissism.
When you can admit and blame yourself, only then will you have and appreciate His Graceand only then will you have arrived. |
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