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ALERT: ***** U.S. H1N1 deaths DOUBLING week to week ******** | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 767228  United States09/26/2009 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 780174 United States09/26/2009 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chile just came out of winter and they went thru the swine flu and realize how hyped it is. It became a joke after the fear wore off. They refused any vaccines because they believe that it was a manmade virus. Chile caught on pretty quickly and let it work is course instead of panicing and realized that it was hyped. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 767228 United States09/26/2009 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | were did you find this?? This is truely scary... do you have a link of any kind? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 738845Flutrackers.com has been a pretty good resource for a long time. I highly recommend it in general, although having read the linked thread a few times and looked more closely at the numbers, the term "doubling" could be misleading. But clearly there is an acceleration of late in serious and/or fatal cases. To be clear, I share the apprehension of most people on GLP about the vaccine and will not take it regardless of the veracity of this trend. But I've also noted some people on GLP who have downplayed the threat at all of H1N1, and while I agreed with the viewpoint over the summer, the trend in the fatality count over the last few weeks is troubling in its similarity to 1918. The swine flu may not be all hype, as some here constantly suggest. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 756246  Australia09/26/2009 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 767228 United States09/26/2009 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confirmed? Or, "it looks like it might be a flu of some sort, so we'll just include it?" Were they people who had taken vaccines, or others? Is it real or puffery? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 780470This is anecdotal, but I think it is the opposite. I think many flu deaths globally are being excluded from the count precisely because there is no testing being done so no conclusive evidence it is H1N1. It falls into the pneumonia category or something else like that. The thread I linked has a telling quote... With 572 this past week through the 19th of September, my math gives us a total of 1529 deaths since April. Is that right? That would mean a doubling of deaths every week since Aug. 30. in the US. And I might add, that means IMO that other countries are simply fudging their figures, and not counting cases of deaths in anyone they can dismiss with prior conditions. The US has the best science on Earth, but even these numbers are LOW in my opinion because my own brother dropped dead 3 weeks ago in Austin, after complaining of burning in his lungs to his partner for 2 days, and then was found dead at home. I KNOW they did NOT even test his body for the H1N1. Sad enough, but I also see cases of 'pneumonia' being claimed to be NOT H1N1 there simply because...... |
Aquarius 7  User ID: 736450 United States09/26/2009 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not believe satistics confirmed or unconfirmed. It is much the same as believing the media. I would also want to know with the increase, how many have had the new vaccine or been one of the trial guinea pigs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 756246. . I would also really like to know WHO is in charge of tabulating the statistics. ...  Fear mongering? ... Or fact? ... . . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
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| :) User ID: 567791  Canada09/26/2009 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calm down: Influenza and Pneumonia Syndrome* 8,392 822 Influenza Laboratory-Tests** 690 114 Totals: 10,082 936 *Reports can be based on syndromic, admission or discharge data, or a combination of data elements that could include laboratory-confirmed and influenza-like illness hospitalizations. **Laboratory confirmation includes any positive influenza test (rapid influenza tests, RT-PCR, DFA, IFA, or culture), whether or not typing was done. This table is based on data from a new influenza and pneumonia hospitalizations and deaths web-based reporting system that will be used to monitor trends in activity. This is the third week of data from this new system. The table shows aggregate reports of all influenza and pneumonia-associated hospitalizations and deaths (including 2009 H1N1 and seasonal flu) since August 30, 2009 received by CDC from U.S. states and territories. This table will be updated weekly each Friday at 11 a.m. For the 2009-2010 influenza season, states are reporting based on new case definitions for hospitalizations and deaths effective August 30, 2009. [link to www.cdc.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 767228 United States09/26/2009 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another interesting flutrackers link with a "live" daily graph of cases and fatalities. The data is not great since they are trying to compile dubious government numbers from across the globe, but it is still worth watching. [link to www.flutrackers.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 767228 United States09/26/2009 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calm down: Quoting: :) 567791Influenza and Pneumonia Syndrome* 8,392 822 Influenza Laboratory-Tests** 690 114 Totals: 10,082 936 *Reports can be based on syndromic, admission or discharge data, or a combination of data elements that could include laboratory-confirmed and influenza-like illness hospitalizations. **Laboratory confirmation includes any positive influenza test (rapid influenza tests, RT-PCR, DFA, IFA, or culture), whether or not typing was done. This table is based on data from a new influenza and pneumonia hospitalizations and deaths web-based reporting system that will be used to monitor trends in activity. This is the third week of data from this new system. The table shows aggregate reports of all influenza and pneumonia-associated hospitalizations and deaths (including 2009 H1N1 and seasonal flu) since August 30, 2009 received by CDC from U.S. states and territories. This table will be updated weekly each Friday at 11 a.m. For the 2009-2010 influenza season, states are reporting based on new case definitions for hospitalizations and deaths effective August 30, 2009. [link to www.cdc.gov] I'm not sure why that is calming. The graph on your link of hospital visits is spiking in week 33 of the year when it normally does not seem to rise until the very end of the year. Am I missing something? |
| Pablo Escobar User ID: 770458 United States09/27/2009 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pablo explained this today... It is just an artifact of the new reporting system. FluKrackers and PFI like to exagerate a lot. It sells electons, you know. Both sites solicit money, so the more extreme they are, the more money they can scam from folks. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada09/27/2009 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is simply terrifying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 767228Case List week ending: Hospitalizations 9/5: 1,380 9/12: 4,569 9/19: 10,082 Deaths 9/5: 196 9/12: 364 9/19: 936 [link to www.flutrackers.com] Watch it quadruple after vaccinations are nationwide and world wide.  |
| :) User ID: 567791 Canada09/27/2009 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calm down: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 767228Influenza and Pneumonia Syndrome* 8,392 822 Influenza Laboratory-Tests** 690 114 Totals: 10,082 936 *Reports can be based on syndromic, admission or discharge data, or a combination of data elements that could include laboratory-confirmed and influenza-like illness hospitalizations. **Laboratory confirmation includes any positive influenza test (rapid influenza tests, RT-PCR, DFA, IFA, or culture), whether or not typing was done. This table is based on data from a new influenza and pneumonia hospitalizations and deaths web-based reporting system that will be used to monitor trends in activity. This is the third week of data from this new system. The table shows aggregate reports of all influenza and pneumonia-associated hospitalizations and deaths (including 2009 H1N1 and seasonal flu) since August 30, 2009 received by CDC from U.S. states and territories. This table will be updated weekly each Friday at 11 a.m. For the 2009-2010 influenza season, states are reporting based on new case definitions for hospitalizations and deaths effective August 30, 2009. [link to www.cdc.gov] I'm not sure why that is calming. The graph on your link of hospital visits is spiking in week 33 of the year when it normally does not seem to rise until the very end of the year. Am I missing something? "all influenza and pneumonia-associated hospitalizations and deaths" |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 767228 United States09/27/2009 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calm down: Quoting: :) 567791Influenza and Pneumonia Syndrome* 8,392 822 Influenza Laboratory-Tests** 690 114 Totals: 10,082 936 *Reports can be based on syndromic, admission or discharge data, or a combination of data elements that could include laboratory-confirmed and influenza-like illness hospitalizations. **Laboratory confirmation includes any positive influenza test (rapid influenza tests, RT-PCR, DFA, IFA, or culture), whether or not typing was done. This table is based on data from a new influenza and pneumonia hospitalizations and deaths web-based reporting system that will be used to monitor trends in activity. This is the third week of data from this new system. The table shows aggregate reports of all influenza and pneumonia-associated hospitalizations and deaths (including 2009 H1N1 and seasonal flu) since August 30, 2009 received by CDC from U.S. states and territories. This table will be updated weekly each Friday at 11 a.m. For the 2009-2010 influenza season, states are reporting based on new case definitions for hospitalizations and deaths effective August 30, 2009. [link to www.cdc.gov] I'm not sure why that is calming. The graph on your link of hospital visits is spiking in week 33 of the year when it normally does not seem to rise until the very end of the year. Am I missing something? "all influenza and pneumonia-associated hospitalizations and deaths" Fair enough, although I seem to have read separately that something like 90% of current flu in the U.S. is H1N1. (I stinky, no linky on that) But regardless, that still doesn't explain the spike in hospitalizations. Is that really just an artifact of reporting as Pablo suggests, or are more people truly getting sick. It seems the latter. |
| :) User ID: 567791 Canada09/27/2009 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Sanjay Gupta Gets the Swine Flu CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Picks Up H1N1 While in Afghanistan Sept. 23, 2009 In case you are curious, there wasn't much the doctors could really do for me. Some Tylenol and a sinus decongestant (the same my wife would've given me). We also got IV fluids, given our inability to keep anything down. Within a couple days, I felt a lot better, and a few days after that – I was back to normal. It was a lot like … the flu – with a different name. Last week, Harry Smith, host of CBS' The Early Show stayed home after also coming down with swine flu-like symptoms. He did a piece on the topic from his apartment. Is there something going around? [link to abcnews.go.com] |
