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Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?

 
Anonymous Coward
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09/29/2009 11:27 AM
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"The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a "poll" posted on Facebook that asked users the most unsocial, unspeakable question: Should President Obama be assassinated?"

He or she should have said "Will President Obama be assassinated?" Not "should". Bad choice of words. Bad bad choice of words.

He'll get off with a good lawyer.

The U.S. Secret Service. Can't do anything, if you put things into context.

"Should President Obama be assassinated?"

Definitely NOT.


However. Will Obama be assassinated? If he wakes up to reality, there is every chance the British will use such an act, to help destroy the social fabric on the USA.



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Cop that.


I've made sure the Secret Service saw your articles.
They know.



Let me know what they say.

lol

I'm covered in a court of law.


I've sent them in the past, not today.
They don't respond.
Don't worry you're covered.

lol

I'm not worried, at all. (:

Larouche posts are untouchable.

They've already tried to kill him and his associates years ago. So repeating what they have said doesn't bother me or should it anyone for that matter.

Is that why the running gear "malfunctioned" on his campain plane?
 Quoting: gierrmo 697909



"Is that why the running gear "malfunctioned" on his campain plane?"

What plane? when and where?
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09/29/2009 11:53 AM
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
Free speech is not dead.

There have always been side rules to the freedom of speech. For instance one can not walk into a crowded theater and scream "fire" if there is no fire. The resulting panic could maim or kill people.

Inciting riots, suggesting or even hinting at assassination of a public figure is illegal. HOW one couches the question is important. What what is suggesting when they make a statement also impacts the legality of the 'speech'.
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09/29/2009 11:59 AM
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"Is that why the running gear "malfunctioned" on his campain plane?"

What plane? when and where?
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Let me see if I can find it, it was on the radio during the campain.
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09/29/2009 12:05 PM
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"Is that why the running gear "malfunctioned" on his campain plane?"

What plane? when and where?

Let me see if I can find it, it was on the radio during the campain.
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Sorry, I thought it was running gear apparently it was pitch issues:
[link to www.theaustralian.news.com.au]

[link to blogs.abcnews.com]
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09/29/2009 12:08 PM
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He should have done a different poll.

If Obama needed 'mouth to mouth' and you were the only one there to do it, would ya?

lol
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09/29/2009 12:45 PM
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"Is that why the running gear "malfunctioned" on his campain plane?"

What plane? when and where?

Let me see if I can find it, it was on the radio during the campain.

Sorry, I thought it was running gear apparently it was pitch issues:
[link to www.theaustralian.news.com.au]

[link to blogs.abcnews.com]
 Quoting: gierrmo 697909

It was still a forced emergency landing because of mechanical control issues, apparently an inflatable ramp deployed into the tail region of the plane causing a loss of some control.
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09/29/2009 12:52 PM
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
Free speech is not dead.

There have always been side rules to the freedom of speech. For instance one can not walk into a crowded theater and scream "fire" if there is no fire. The resulting panic could maim or kill people.

Inciting riots, suggesting or even hinting at assassination of a public figure is illegal. HOW one couches the question is important. What what is suggesting when they make a statement also impacts the legality of the 'speech'.
 Quoting: Wraithwynd

Should we nuke a complete nation? If that poll was run, noone would have a problem with it and certainly would not be put in jail.

From what I read, it was not suggestive that someone should do so.

My main question is: Does he deserve hard time for the question or poll. Does he really, if so, what law has he violated.

Stupid, yes Guilty of promoting an assasination attempt, no
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09/29/2009 12:56 PM
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Obama, according to the secret service, is receiving 30 death threats a day, these are the ones to be worrying about, not the guy with a poll.

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09/29/2009 01:45 PM
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
To those calling me an idiot for my post.

Did you point out what law was violated? Did he encourage or propose such a thing? Does he deserve hard time for a violation?

Yes I am well aware that there are limitations on free speach and stating the will to kill another, especially the leader of this country would be one of those, but I really don't think that is the case here. He merely asked a question. The answers to that poll are the one's to look at seriously.

Yet at the same time people can openly say someone needs to take out a political enemy such as Sadaam, KimJung, Castro, Chavez, ect. with no repromand at all. As far as that goes people can say they wish to see a whole country blown to pieces.
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09/29/2009 02:01 PM
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You never had free speech as far as the POTUS is concerned. Any public reference to killing is construed as a threat. This has not changed and never will. How do you know whether the FBI should consider it a "serious" threat or not? Do you personally know the person who put up the poll? Talk about poor judgement...
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09/29/2009 02:05 PM
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Give me free speech any day.... but calling for Obama to be killed is way too much, stupid and irresponsible....... I want peace and him arrested along with his cronnies.... peace
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
You never had free speech as far as the POTUS is concerned. Any public reference to killing is construed as a threat. This has not changed and never will. How do you know whether the FBI should consider it a "serious" threat or not? Do you personally know the person who put up the poll? Talk about poor judgement...
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Are you sure about that?
How many times has the media referreced the potential for Obama to be assasinated? Are they a threat. You can't "know" the man with the poll, you can only look at what he wrote. Because of that alone does he deserve hard time in a penetentry, and if so what crime was committed?


Answers..........anyone????????
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09/29/2009 02:09 PM
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Give me free speech any day.... but calling for Obama to be killed is way too much, stupid and irresponsible....... I want peace and him arrested along with his cronnies.... peace
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I don't believe he called for Obama to be killed, not from what I read anyway.
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09/29/2009 02:16 PM
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
Hypothetical example:

I just caught my wife in bed with another man, should they be killed? Is this encouraging someone to kill them?

Am I in any way saying that I wish to kill them both? Would I be arrested if I asked the sheriff's department that very question? Or if I ran a poll in the internet?

No one knows his reasoning behind the poll other than him, and the poll alone does not insite a murder, or it shouldn't at lest, and neither should it condemn him to years in a federal prison along side the real murderers.
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Smells of something to me.

They will just use this to enforce their agenda more which means less freedom for everyone else.

Its not hard to smell which way the winds blowing
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09/29/2009 02:23 PM
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Smells of something to me.

They will just use this to enforce their agenda more which means less freedom for everyone else.

Its not hard to smell which way the winds blowing
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I agree
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09/29/2009 02:25 PM
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That is such a stupid thing to do.
Gee, couldn't he just have backed a tiger into a corner and then stepped on its toes?
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09/29/2009 02:33 PM
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he deserves a bit of jail time because being an idiot should be a crime
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Yikes, have to convert churches to jails.
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09/29/2009 02:37 PM
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
putting the sitting potus or probably any public worker or any specific name and kill in the same sentence on the internet is a bad idea.

the other word that starts with ass is definitely a no no
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09/29/2009 03:12 PM
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They're not afraid of physical threats. They obviously have the firepower and technology to ward off military grade threats.

They're afraid of people feeling free to talk their shit. So they take out an occasional dissenter to make the rest shut up and get back to being a cowardly slave.
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09/29/2009 03:13 PM
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If I were to post something like that would black helicopters show up at my house?


Racist!

ha,
ok, white choppers
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white supremacist!
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09/29/2009 03:15 PM
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Free speach does not mean saying insane things
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09/29/2009 04:40 PM
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Free speach does not mean saying insane things
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It doesn't mean locking them up for saying them either
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09/29/2009 04:41 PM
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white supremacist!
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seriously? apparently we haven't met
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09/29/2009 04:41 PM
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[link to www.foxnews.com]

What could they really do to him? It's not like he said Obama should die. I mean I could see a poll like that showing up on this site, doesn't mean the poster thinks he should die. If I were to post something like that would black helicopters show up at my house?
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He's an idiot. Now they will make him an example. whatever
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Free speach does not mean saying insane things
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dumbass
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They're not afraid of physical threats. They obviously have the firepower and technology to ward off military grade threats.

They're afraid of people feeling free to talk their shit. So they take out an occasional dissenter to make the rest shut up and get back to being a cowardly slave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 782477

Finally, some sanity in this place.
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09/29/2009 04:58 PM
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They're not afraid of physical threats. They obviously have the firepower and technology to ward off military grade threats.

They're afraid of people feeling free to talk their shit. So they take out an occasional dissenter to make the rest shut up and get back to being a cowardly slave.

Finally, some sanity in this place.
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so, true
yes, him, Obama, and alike must rot in jail or, yes, killed, better by the crowd.
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They're not afraid of physical threats. They obviously have the firepower and technology to ward off military grade threats.

They're afraid of people feeling free to talk their shit. So they take out an occasional dissenter to make the rest shut up and get back to being a cowardly slave.

Finally, some sanity in this place.

so, true
yes, him, Obama, and alike must rot in jail or, yes, killed, better by the crowd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781814

present criminal and demonic governments of the world, heads and executives of banks and corporations, all scam affiliated with Jesuits, you name more...
All have to face prison or else... death from all the oppressed, deceived and enslaved people.
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Re: Free speach is dead: Dude posts poll on facebook "should Obama be killed" and is now facing jail time?
It seems to be drifing off subject, I was just wanting to know if everyone else truly felt that this guy deserves real jail time for his stupidity.





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