Christians should not speak to Catholics

Suits me!

Laughing ...

A Christian is a believer and follower in Jesus Christ, that He came to earth, died on the cross, was buried and was resurected.


Hasn't a darn thing to do with what you call yourself!

Catholics are Catholic and Christians are Christians, but this thread is still an

I am a Christian and I love Catholics.

Catholics are NOT Christian. Catholics are unregenerate. Those who speak peace with them are just as unregenerate.

Catholics and Orthodox jointly own the 2000-year-old trademark on the name Christian. You should be grateful that they let you use it for yourself. (You are baptized, aren't you? Otherwise you yourself are a pagan.) Any attempt to deny them their own trademark is simply lunacy.

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are you serious!??

what about liquor?

If Catholics are Pagan than so are all Christians. All Christianity originated from the Catholics. All of your bibles were compiled by Catholics. Everything you know of Christianity is thanks to Catholics.

No

Catholicism is the perfect religion for dumb fucks who want to be told how to live.

Most of the "Christian" and all of the "Muslim" religions are run by people who rip off their dumb ass followers. Catholicism is just extremely good at this sort of thing.

No, you are making it up. English bibles were translated from Greek. The Roman Catholic Church uses a Latin bible, which was also translated from Greek.

So all of our bibles were compiled by the Orthodox Church, which still uses Greek bibles. Indeed, the Roman Catholic Church is just a schism from the Orthodox Church.

The Roman Catholic Church is a bunch of splitters, who left the Orthodox Church because nobody would accept the outrageous Roman Catholic claims that the pope is the head of the church. Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church, not the pope.

Even the word "Catholic" is from the Greek word Katholikos. So what are you going to do? Will you go on pretending that everything about Christianity is from the Roman Catholic Church? Because it isn't! It's from the Orthodox Church!!

Roman Catholic Church: bunch of schismatic splitters who make up stuff and demand others accept it.

Orthodox Church: The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

Actually they accept that the Pope is the leader.

[link to www.vatican.va]

JOINT INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION FOR THE THEOLOGICAL DIALOGUE
BETWEEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE ORTHODOX CHURCH

ECCLESIOLOGICAL AND CANONICAL CONSEQUENCES
OF THE SACRAMENTAL NATURE OF THE CHURCH

ECCLESIAL COMMUNION, CONCILIARITY AND AUTHORITY

Ravenna, 13 October 2007

same shit different name

Actually the Orthodox Church does not accept the pope as the head of the church. Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church, as the bible says.


Christ is also the head of the church, which is his body. -- Colossians 1:18

Explain this then

Gee you seem to have cut half the sentence off!!!

The Orthodox Church does not accept the pope as the head of the church. Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church, as the bible says. There is no way the Orthodox Church will accept the Roman Catholic pope taking over Jesus's job.

This is very good to read! Nikki, you'll return home, I just know it.

ditto

[link to www.orthodoxchristianity.net]
Patriarch Bartholomew is ready to accept the Pope's primacy
« on: November 27, 2007, 03:23:44 AM »

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[link to www.interfax-religion.ru]
I don't know if there is any English version of the news anywhere.

The matter of article is that patriarch Bartholomew said that he is ready to accept the Pope's primacy as it was before 1054, and to become the second patriarch in the Christian world, as it also was before 1054. Also he told that the point of the present dialogue with catholics is to clarify the meaning of the term "primacy" and the purview

[link to palamas.info]

Rome, Nov. 28, 2007 (CWNews.com) – Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople has said that he is prepared to recognize the primacy of the Pope–although he does not accept the Catholic position on the implications of that primacy.

In an interview with a Bulgarian television network, the Orthodox leader– who is himself recognized as the “first among equals” in the Orthodox world– indicated his support for a statement released by the joint Catholic-Orthodox theological commission at an October meeting in Ravenna, Italy. That statement had recalled that during the first Christian millennium, the Bishop of Rome was recognized as the foremost of the patriarchs.

"Until the Fifth Century A.D. there was not even a single instance of dissension or antagonism between the two Churches. The Bishop of Rome had always been considered the First in the order of hierarchy. This was a natural consequence of the position of Rome as the capital of the Roman Empire. When Constantinople became the new capital of the Byzantine State its Bishop assumed the second position in the ranks of the hierarchy. The third canon of the Second Ecumenical Council (381) designates the position of honor of the Bishop of Constantinople as second only to that of the Bishop of Rome. This decision of the Council is based on the premise that Constantinople is new Rome, and, incidentally, it has been retained among the titles of the Patriarch of Constantinople."

[link to www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org]


It depends what sort of "primacy" you mean. If you mean that the Bishop of Rome is considered the first among equals, then the Orthodox Church accepts that historical position. The Bishop of Rome was given this position because Rome was the capital of the Roman Empire.

But the Roman Catholic Church does not say that the Bishop of Rome (the pope) is the first among equals. They demand that the pope is the head of the church, the ruler of the entire church, and indeed ruler of the whole world. This position is unacceptable to the Orthodox Church, because Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church. Jesus Christ is King of Kings.

Do you consider the pope to be head of the church?

Or do you consider Jesus Christ to be the Head of the Church?

God gave man free will to make decisions... who are you to disparage him/her on what they want to believe in?

Let God decide not you.

I don't take a calvinist position ... of course Jesus is the head of the Church ... but of course the Church needs to be lead by bishops.

My simple position is that the bishop of Rome, for mainly historical and administrative reasons, has a kind of moral and spiritual primacy.

Also, he can serve as a guide when the going gets tough, i.e. in case of divisions between bishops, he can help heal divisions.

But you understand that the positions of the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are not the same? The RCC wants the pope to be in charge of all the bishops, rather than first among equals. The pope wants to be king of the other bishops and everybody else, not equal to them.