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Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?

 
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Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
Push the 'reset' button?

Consider a temporary military dictatorship, fire all members of congress and reset the country back to a constitutional republic.

We dont have any left wing liberal communists in the high ranking military and they have to be thinking about the socialist move Obama and the Dems are taking the country.

Obama is trying to destroy the nation and to save it, would the military just take over and tell the nation to vote in a new congress?

What would the ramifications be to that kind of move in the US?

Its been done before in other countries.

Would it be treason or their patriotic duty?



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I must say I am very much afraid of the potential for an American copy of the "French Revolution."
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Considering the morals and attitude of the average pentagon career officer I doubt the country would be better of.
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I think it would trigger a civil war.
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I think it would trigger a civil war.
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I think we're already in a civil war.

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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
As much as I wish we could simply press a magical reset button, that just isn't going to happen. Even if... very big IF, the were to be a military coup, the laws passed prior to removal fromoffice would still be in effect. Almost as bad, all the people below him would still be there. Think, President Pelosi. blink


No, we are well and truly screwed until the 2010 elections at the very earliest.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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PAC, this is what NESARA is all about.
what you are asking for is NESARA - which is the removal of all corrupt leaders and exposure of the whole truth, return to the constitution, fed abolished and replaced with gold backed currency.
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I think it would trigger a civil war.

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I think we're already in a civil war.

fwiw
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While I would not call this years peaceful protests a war, it is worth noting that all of the newspapers back in the 1860's were saying that the South's secession would never cause a war.

... it is still Americas most bloody war ever.

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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
A military coup to restore constitutional government? You don't see the contradiction in that?
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
Push the 'reset' button?

Consider a temporary military dictatorship, fire all members of congress and reset the country back to a constitutional republic.

We dont have any left wing liberal communists in the high ranking military and they have to be thinking about the socialist move Obama and the Dems are taking the country.

Obama is trying to destroy the nation and to save it, would the military just take over and tell the nation to vote in a new congress?

What would the ramifications be to that kind of move in the US?

Its been done before in other countries.

Would it be treason or their patriotic duty?



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Sorry, fudgePACker -- that's treason.

You may not like it, but Obama is the democratically elected leader of this country. And to remind you it WAS NOT close -- what like 360 electoral votes and 6-7% points.

If you disagree with his policies, fight him at the ballot box and through other democratic means.

But advocating military intervention IS treason (punishable by death, mind you).

Those "other countries" you speak of -- care to name a few?

once you name even one or two, we can debate whether these were in fact anything other than banana republics.
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
Swap out New Masters for Old?

Nah

A Military coup would fly in the face of our Constitutional setup.

How could the Military then just revert back to a Constitutional governance?



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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
Sorry, fudgePACker -- that's treason.

You may not like it, but Obama is the democratically elected leader of this country. And to remind you it WAS NOT close -- what like 360 electoral votes and 6-7% points.

If you disagree with his policies, fight him at the ballot box and through other democratic means.


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Obama is a fucking foreigner and should not be President.
He, along with Reid and Pelosi, should be impeached and Obama be sent back to his native country, Kenya.
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And you still let this fucking asshole on this site. Pacnpussy desires to be delt with first don't you think.
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And you still let this fucking asshole on this site. Pacnpussy desires to be delt with first don't you think.
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agreed

the very fact this asshole is posting a thread like this is disturbing in the extreme.
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
I think it would trigger a civil war.

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I think we're already in a civil war.

fwiw
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While I would not call this years peaceful protests a war, it is worth noting that all of the newspapers back in the 1860's were saying that the South's secession would never cause a war.

... it is still Americas most bloody war ever.
 Quoting: Resister

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I wasn't referring to an obvious, all-out civil war.
I'm really thinking more of the underlying unrest that permeates our society right now.

And yes ... I was probably exagerating to say we are in a civil war now ... but we are in a spiritual civil war along with a mental civil war at this time.

imho

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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
I try to be skeptical of Panarin's prediction of the US breaking into several seperate countries next year.

Threads like this show me it is possible, because any attempt to "reset" things will shine light on the fact the regions of the country have dramatically different values, politics, and beliefs. This light will cause people to decide they don't want to be influnced by the people "over there", you know, the damn_____ _____ people, who ruin everything and keep us from having our paradise.

Anyone intelligent enough to make O7 level will realize this. Therefore if someone in senior circles is talking about this kind of coup, they are either trying to break up the country, or seize control by brutal military dictatorship, not reset liberty and sound government.

Study the Soviet breakup. Think of the Mid-North Atlantic States as Russia as you study. If our country resets, it will break as the Soviets did.
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
We need to bypass congress, either a temporary king or military.

Need to eviscerate all interest payments to the fed, and any interest paid to date credited de facto to the debt.

In other words, whatever we have paid to the fed in interest, is retroactively applied to principal.

A new currency is established, some debt incurred as necessary to pay off the fed, then fuck 'em.
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
I am not advocating a military coup, civil war, or a revolution, but I have never heard so much talk of it prior to Obama.

The only people supporting Obama are far left liberal wackos who only represent 10% of the population.

If everyone who voted for him knew then what they know now, he wouldnt have stood a chance. He fucking lied to get elected and how he is hell bent on destroying the republic.

With his talking about disarming the US, his sweeping communist agenda and his fighting production of his birth certificate, you know high ranking patriots are whispering about what might have to be done.

ya know?
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
There is a very easy way to help this country realize its potential, and anyone over the age of 18 can participate. It is entirely nonviolent and non-confrontational. Stop voting for democrats and republicans. By definition, any member of these two parties is a member of a criminal organization working to subvert the Constitution of the United States of America. Once we stop electing liars and thieves to represent us, the beauty of the system that the Founders set up will have a chance to be realized.

Or we need to have a new constitutional convention, because there is not a single area of law or procedure where we are adhering to our Constitution. In my opinion, this would have more potential for disaster, since the intelligence level of most American citizens is quite frightening and depressing.
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We need to bypass congress, either a temporary king or military.

Need to eviscerate all interest payments to the fed, and any interest paid to date credited de facto to the debt.

In other words, whatever we have paid to the fed in interest, is retroactively applied to principal.

A new currency is established, some debt incurred as necessary to pay off the fed, then fuck 'em.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


The problem doesn't rest with congress. They are all elected. The real corruption is seated within the electorate that puts them in office.

Wake up and admit the real problem is us, the people. Until we turn to selfless servanthood of our fellow man and expect the same from our leaders thing cannot change for the better.

You may be "awake" but your neighbors are not. Go talk with them and see if we can get some real change going where it counts.
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The only people supporting Obama are far left liberal wackos who only represent 10% of the population.
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right, that's why his approval rating is hovering in the 50% range. math!
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
Sorry, fudgePACker -- that's treason.

You may not like it, but Obama is the democratically elected leader of this country. And to remind you it WAS NOT close -- what like 360 electoral votes and 6-7% points.

If you disagree with his policies, fight him at the ballot box and through other democratic means.



Obama is a fucking foreigner and should not be President.
He, along with Reid and Pelosi, should be impeached and Obama be sent back to his native country, Kenya.

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Let's get something straight. You and your birther buddies are amongst the MOST ignorant in our population.

If you think he's a foreigner, PROVE IT. EVERY attempt has been negated and debunked.

AND IF YOU PERSIST, realize that you are also veering very close to treason. FudgePACker should not only be banned from glp, but thrown in jail by the Secret Service.

Obama is the gd President! If you don't like it, do something about it -- democratically. Now you know how we on the left felt about Bush -- with FAR more objective reason btw.

I don't like many of the things Obama is doing. I will work even harder, with time and money, to get REAL Democrats in the Congress to fulfill the will of the people.

Your argument is THINLY veiled racism at its base. It's time we who are on the right side of the issues (ironically the left side of the political spectrum) start calling you conservative/right wing/Repubs what you are -- obstructionist, racist idiots who are taking political positions against YOUR OWN ECONOMIC INTERESTS BC YOU CAN'T TOLERATE A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE..



September 30, 2009
Op-Ed Columnist
Where Did ‘We’ Go?
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
I hate to write about this, but I have actually been to this play before and it is really disturbing.

I was in Israel interviewing Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin just before he was assassinated in 1995. We had a beer in his office. He needed one. I remember the ugly mood in Israel then — a mood in which extreme right-wing settlers and politicians were doing all they could to delegitimize Rabin, who was committed to trading land for peace as part of the Oslo accords. They questioned his authority. They accused him of treason. They created pictures depicting him as a Nazi SS officer, and they shouted death threats at rallies. His political opponents winked at it all.

And in so doing they created a poisonous political environment that was interpreted by one right-wing Jewish nationalist as a license to kill Rabin — he must have heard, “God will be on your side” — and so he did.

Others have already remarked on this analogy, but I want to add my voice because the parallels to Israel then and America today turn my stomach: I have no problem with any of the substantive criticism of President Obama from the right or left. But something very dangerous is happening. Criticism from the far right has begun tipping over into delegitimation and creating the same kind of climate here that existed in Israel on the eve of the Rabin assassination.

What kind of madness is it that someone would create a poll on Facebook asking respondents, “Should Obama be killed?” The choices were: “No, Maybe, Yes, and Yes if he cuts my health care.” The Secret Service is now investigating. I hope they put the jerk in jail and throw away the key because this is exactly what was being done to Rabin.

Even if you are not worried that someone might draw from these vitriolic attacks a license to try to hurt the president, you have to be worried about what is happening to American politics more broadly.

Our leaders, even the president, can no longer utter the word “we” with a straight face. There is no more “we” in American politics at a time when “we” have these huge problems — the deficit, the recession, health care, climate change and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — that “we” can only manage, let alone fix, if there is a collective “we” at work.

Sometimes I wonder whether George H.W. Bush, president “41,” will be remembered as our last “legitimate” president. The right impeached Bill Clinton and hounded him from Day 1 with the bogus Whitewater “scandal.” George W. Bush was elected under a cloud because of the Florida voting mess, and his critics on the left never let him forget it.

And Mr. Obama is now having his legitimacy attacked by a concerted campaign from the right fringe. They are using everything from smears that he is a closet “socialist” to calling him a “liar” in the middle of a joint session of Congress to fabricating doubts about his birth in America and whether he is even a citizen. And these attacks are not just coming from the fringe. Now they come from Lou Dobbs on CNN and from members of the House of Representatives.

Again, hack away at the man’s policies and even his character all you want. I know politics is a tough business. But if we destroy the legitimacy of another president to lead or to pull the country together for what most Americans want most right now — nation-building at home — we are in serious trouble. We can’t go 24 years without a legitimate president — not without being swamped by the problems that we will end up postponing because we can’t address them rationally.

The American political system was, as the saying goes, “designed by geniuses so it could be run by idiots.” But a cocktail of political and technological trends have converged in the last decade that are making it possible for the idiots of all political stripes to overwhelm and paralyze the genius of our system.

Those factors are: the wild excess of money in politics; the gerrymandering of political districts, making them permanently Republican or Democratic and erasing the political middle; a 24/7 cable news cycle that makes all politics a daily battle of tactics that overwhelm strategic thinking; and a blogosphere that at its best enriches our debates, adding new checks on the establishment, and at its worst coarsens our debates to a whole new level, giving a new power to anonymous slanderers to send lies around the world. Finally, on top of it all, we now have a permanent presidential campaign that encourages all partisanship, all the time among our leading politicians.

I would argue that together these changes add up to a difference of degree that is a difference in kind — a different kind of American political scene that makes me wonder whether we can seriously discuss serious issues any longer and make decisions on the basis of the national interest.

We can’t change this overnight, but what we can change, and must change, is people crossing the line between criticizing the president and tacitly encouraging the unthinkable and the unforgivable.
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Pipe Dreams.

Corporations run America, not politicians. We are too global now for anyone to allow us to re-take our government. At the very least, we would be vulnerable to hostile takeover from China.
I'm not too fond of Signatures. Why would I want to end every post the same way?
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Re: Would a military coup to 'reset' the country back to a constitutional republic be feasible?
I am not advocating a military coup, civil war, or a revolution, but I have never heard so much talk of it prior to Obama.

The only people supporting Obama are far left liberal wackos who only represent 10% of the population.

If everyone who voted for him knew then what they know now, he wouldnt have stood a chance. He fucking lied to get elected and how he is hell bent on destroying the republic.

With his talking about disarming the US, his sweeping communist agenda and his fighting production of his birth certificate, you know high ranking patriots are whispering about what might have to be done.

ya know?
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PAC you are such a toxic moron.

I would be embarassed to show my face on glp (figuratively speaking of course) if I had been the author of all the bs you spouted during the election.

How's President Huckabee btw??

Anyone with a brain should just do a search of all the crap you have hung. You are immediatley discredited by all but the most vehement idealogues.

But now you come with this treasonous "idea"?

really, I hope the mods send your info to the Secret Service.

"you know high ranking patriots are whispering about what might have to be done" -- no PAC, exactly what are you insinuating??

Be specific.

And hang yourself with your own venom.
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It would turn out like it did in Russia.
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The only people supporting Obama are far left liberal wackos who only represent 10% of the population.


right, that's why his approval rating is hovering in the 50% range. math!
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look who they are

Half the people in this country cant name the past 3 presidents or the name of the speaker of the house or even what the speaker of the house does. 50% believe its the person who yells out the presidents name when he walks in a room

There is a major difference in his likability factor and those who approve of his agenda.

First you need to know his agenda. Most dont have a clue. GLP is 95% more educated than the majority, who actually vote for the guy who has the best smile.

Ask them that first and then ask them if they approve.

Only 16% of Seniors approve of Obama.

90% of kids approve of him.

Yes we can...

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it depends on the pay.
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I am not advocating a military coup, civil war, or a revolution, but I have never heard so much talk of it prior to Obama.

The only people supporting Obama are far left liberal wackos who only represent 10% of the population.

If everyone who voted for him knew then what they know now, he wouldnt have stood a chance. He fucking lied to get elected and how he is hell bent on destroying the republic.

With his talking about disarming the US, his sweeping communist agenda and his fighting production of his birth certificate, you know high ranking patriots are whispering about what might have to be done.

ya know?
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Don't you wish.

Keep spreading the propaganda brother, I'm glad you don't let little things like election results interfere with your beliefs.
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really, I hope the mods send your info to the Secret Service.

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I think it would trigger a civil war.

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I think we're already in a civil war.

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