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<:> User ID: 784818 United States 10/02/2009 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? The Earth Orientation Center focuses on the polar motion of the Earth. Based on the data that the OP posted about there has been pause in the constant change of polar motion. Perhaps Chandlers Wobble has become constant thus eliminating Chandler's law. One thing is certain the data has remained virtually constant since the date in the subject line. What that means in relation to the Earth and life on it is purely conjecture at this point. Quoting: Menow 405501What the heck is "Chandler's law"?? You are just PRETENDING to know what you are talking about. The date in the subject line is LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO. Exactly HOW does that page show what the OP claims? Please be specific. Hey Dickhead! Read the fucking link I posted that states what Chandlers Wobble is! |
<:> User ID: 784818 United States 10/02/2009 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? The OP got the facts wrong but did stumble across an interesting discovery. The fact is that the pole orientation has remained constant according to the report. This is unusual! Quoting: Menow 405501WHAT "report"? Hey Stupid! The report on the Earth Orientation Center. MORAN! |
<:> User ID: 784818 United States 10/02/2009 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? To put it in simple terms its like a toy top that gains enough momentum to have a perfect symetry with no wobble what so ever. How does that toy top attain perfect symetry? Momentum! So when do the Earth has sped up threads begin? Quoting: Menow 405501You are nothing but a rambling, would-be, intellectual. You are simply pulling stuff out of your ass. The only thing coming out of my ass is your brains! Shit for Brains Mother Fucker! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 773137 United States 10/02/2009 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? Before you are quick to call this BS please look at the data from the Earths Orientation Center Quoting: Menow 405501[link to hpiers.obspm.fr] These plots clearly show that the Earth has come to a virtual standstill since September 19, 2009. [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Scroll down a quarter of the page and check it out for yourself. Since September 19, 2009 the X and Y axis has been at a virtual standstill. The X and Y axis error margin (where the Earth should be) is increasing exponentially. I am specualting that this might be the cause of all these earthquakes. The real question though is 'why has the tilt stopped'. Looking back at past data this has NEVER happened for this length of time. Speculative theories abound are welcome. my observation is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Earth has "come to a virtual standstill"??? The "tilt has stopped"??? Just stupid. My observation of your response is that you do not understand the data I linked up. It is clearly obvios that the Earths tilt has slowed to a virtual standstill. We are still spinning but the tilt has completely stopped according to the data on the EOC site! The Earth's tilt cannot "stop". That is nonsense. It is not an action, it is a condition, which has not gone away. Get a clue. Yes it can if some other large object's magnetic field is putting pressure on the Earth (and other planets in the solar system). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 773137 United States 10/02/2009 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? Another source... Quoting: Menow 405501[link to www.popsci.com] Warming Oceans May Cause the Earth to Tilt snip Global warming and expanding oceans, beyond immediate effects on the surface of our planet, may even cause the earth's axis to shift. Now scientists say our reach has been extended even further -- warming oceans may even start to shift the Earth's axis of rotation. This whole subject of tilt and axis is a very interesting subject indeed! Peace By the way... They are talking about possible INFINITESIMAL changes. Dude - why are you so touchy about what may or may not happen??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 773137 United States 10/02/2009 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? In a new study due to be published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, a team of researchers has found that sea level rise caused by warming oceans also plays a significant role in pushing the poles around. Quoting: Earth420[link to dsc.discovery.com] Warming Oceans May Shift Earth's Pole It was also something that just started coming out in towards end of last month if you look at links and dates... "It's a completely unexpected result," Richard Gross, also of Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said. He was not involved in the study. "The conventional thinking has been that... sea level changes won't affect Earth's rotation." Melt water from Greenland only raises sea level up around 0.2 millimeters (0.01 inches) each year, but it moves the pole the same amount as warming. "Greenland melting has about a ten times stronger effect on polar motion," Landerer said. As the ice sheet continues to disintegrate in the future, he added, "the effects on polar motion will be dominated by Greenland." [link to dsc.discovery.com] World's Oceans Set Temperature Record snip Aug. 20, 2009 -- July marked the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping. Meteorologists said a combination of forces are at work: A natural El Nino system on top of worsening man-made global warming and a dash of random weather variations. The resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes strengthen. The average water temperature worldwide in July was 62.6 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. June was only slightly cooler, while August could set another record, scientists said. The previous record was set in July 1998 during a powerful El Nino weather pattern. Peace These are some of the "signs" that most people blow off and ignore (till it is too late). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 616767 United States 10/02/2009 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Even us humans are made from the elements of the earth. Now what if humans act as counter weights? Depending on where we go, it may affect the balance of the weight distribution |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 776822 China 10/02/2009 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768396What you should look at is the graph on the same page showing Excess of the Length of day. Take a look at the data for 2008 and then for 2009. The plots are alsmost identical for the time periods preceding the Sichuan Earthquake in May and the recent Inondesian Quakes. Coincidence...I think not. The plot ends on September 12, 2009 before the recent earthquakes. The data is clearly visible for the 7 days prior to or preceeding each earthquake. I did not say the data was for the date of the earthquakes. There is a big difference. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 773137 United States 10/02/2009 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? Before you are quick to call this BS please look at the data from the Earths Orientation Center Quoting: New Klee Errrr[link to hpiers.obspm.fr] These plots clearly show that the Earth has come to a virtual standstill since September 19, 2009. [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Scroll down a quarter of the page and check it out for yourself. Since September 19, 2009 the X and Y axis has been at a virtual standstill. The X and Y axis error margin (where the Earth should be) is increasing exponentially. I am specualting that this might be the cause of all these earthquakes. The real question though is 'why has the polar motion stopped'. Looking back at past data this has NEVER happened for this length of time. Speculative theories abound are welcome. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 768396 United States 10/02/2009 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? There is a diagram on this page about2/3 of the way down that shows that the tilt of the earth's axis remains constant (points in the same direction) from season to season. |
meroj User ID: 781500 United States 10/02/2009 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? If anything, the Sun is involved, as always. The Sun is not static, many,(idiots), seem to think it is. As the Earth revolves around the Sun, and if there is a little warp to the orbital symmetry, perhaps then, the polar motion seems unchanged.(?) (or, earthquakes are possibly caused. still, who knows, exactly? (perhaps, someone does know, hmmm.)) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 784893 United States 10/02/2009 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? Can someone explain how the polar motion has come to a standstill amongst all these quakes? I recall the 2004 9.0 Sumatra had altered the Earths rotation because the Eath was 'ringing like a bell'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 784893 United States 10/02/2009 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? [link to 74.125.153.132] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768396There is a diagram on this page about2/3 of the way down that shows that the tilt of the earth's axis remains constant (points in the same direction) from season to season. You are correct but the poles are always in a state of movement. According to this data the Earth has held itself in the same position pole wise since for the past 12 days. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 784893 United States 10/02/2009 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? BURIED in the squiggles on seismographs may be tiny pointers that will help scientists predict when and where a lethal earthquake will strike. Experts admit both goals lie beyond the horizon, although some see progress towards the "where" part of the dream. "In terms of quake prediction, I don't think we'll ever be able to say things like, 'next Thursday, at two o'clock'," said Sandy Steacy, a professor of environmental sciences at Northern Ireland's University of Ulster. But, in some respects, "we are closer" to figuring out where, she said. Experts are aided especially by the big quakes of the past. The greatest help has come from the 9.1-magnitude tremor that struck west of the Indonesian island of Sumatra on December 26, 2004, unleashing a tsunami that claimed 250,000 lives. The catastrophe provided geologists with the best chance in decades to unlock knowledge about a quake's knock-on effects. The biggest quake in 40 years made the planet ring like a bell for weeks. Global positioning system stations set up to monitor land movements found Earth's crust had shifted by between 5mm and 10mm at sites up to 3000km from the epicentre. In the weeks that followed, Professor Steacy's colleague, John McCloskey, worked the calculations. In March 2005, he declared another quake, on a possible scale of 8.4, could soon erupt on the same fault just south of the 9.1 event. Using language that, for a seismologist, was exceptionally blunt, he said: "We are not trying to cry wolf ... When it comes to earthquakes, lightning does strike twice." His warning was based on knowledge of other areas where quakes have cascaded down a fault, ripping open one section after another. The analogy is that of a shirt being ripped open. When one button is torn off, stress passes on to the next button until it eventually pops, and so on. Within two weeks, Mr McCloskey was proved chillingly right. An 8.7 quake occurred smack where he had predicted it. But sustaining such success was elusive. A further prediction that the next southbound section of fault, near Padang, would fail turned out to be wrong. The next earthquake "jumped", occurring further south near Bengkulu, in September 2007, with a magnitude 8.5 shake. Padang, meanwhile, has had its big quake. The 7.6 event on Wednesday may have killed thousands, Indonesian officials fear. But how it happened was unexpected. The quake did not derive from a build-up of domino-like stress, said French expert Robin Lacassin, of the Institute of the Physics of the Globe in Paris. It occurred at greater depth, apparently where a mighty piece of Earth's crust, the Australia plate, contorts as it slides beneath the Sunda plate to the east. "It happened at some depth, around 80km. It appears to have occurred in the subducted plate, beneath the face where the two plates meet," Professor Lacassin said. Lessons about domino-style faults could be a lifesaver in northwestern Turkey, where the 1999 Izmit earthquake boosted stress on the North Anatolian fault, Professor Steacy said. Alerted, the city of Istanbul was taking steps to mitigate damage and beef up earthquake training in expectation of a future shake, she said. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 728223 United States 10/02/2009 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? The OP got the facts wrong but did stumble across an interesting discovery. The fact is that the pole orientation has remained constant according to the report. This is unusual! Quoting: Menow 405501WHAT "report"? The GLP Report |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 668442 United States 10/02/2009 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? From the January 17, 2005 Scientific American interview with a JPL scientist here [link to www.scientificamerican.com] SA: Did the tilt of the earth's axis change as well? The earth wobbles as it rotates because its mass is not balanced about its rotation axis, just like a tire on a car will wobble as it rotates if the tire is not perfectly balanced. The size of the planet's wobble is usually about 33 feet. As the India plate subducted beneath the Burma plate, the mass of Earth was rearranged, not only causing the speed of rotation to change, which causes the length of the day to change, but also causing the wobbling motion of the planet to change by about an inch. The wobble is also affected by other influences, such as changes in atmospheric pressure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 784909 Guatemala 10/02/2009 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? Before you are quick to call this BS please look at the data from the Earths Orientation Center Quoting: New Klee Errrr[link to hpiers.obspm.fr] These plots clearly show that the Earth has come to a virtual standstill since September 19, 2009. [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Scroll down a quarter of the page and check it out for yourself. Since September 19, 2009 the X and Y axis has been at a virtual standstill. The X and Y axis error margin (where the Earth should be) is increasing exponentially. I am specualting that this might be the cause of all these earthquakes. The real question though is 'why has the polar motion stopped'. Looking back at past data this has NEVER happened for this length of time. Speculative theories abound are welcome. Nibiru as just magnetical gripped Earth Core... Ztas were Right, that all the time!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 760960 United States 10/02/2009 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? The Earth is expanding; getting larger in circumfrance. [link to www.expanding-earth.org] THE EARTH IS GROWING AND EXPANDING RAPIDLY by EXTERNAL ACCRETION (METEORITES, DUST AND SOLAR ENERGY) and INTERNAL CORE EXPANSION (BY GRAVITATIONALLY INDUCED HEATING) (The mechanisms and a new cosmology) Lawrence S. Myers (Revised 29 April 2005) The map shown here is PROOF of Earth's growth and expansion in just the last ~200 million years--proving there were NO oceans (now covering over 70% of the planet) when it was 40% smaller than it is today. The evidence is obvious, unmistakable and irrefutable! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 785101 New Zealand 10/02/2009 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? OP is referring to the apparent "flat line" after 19 Sep 2009 in the graphs of "dX / UAI 2000" and "dY / UAI 2000" (bottom pair of graphs) in the page at: [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] This is what I suspect has happened: These parameters are automatically calculated on a scheduled daily basis using data from the sensors, or whatever. The process is completely automated and there is probably little or no human input, and apparently not much monitoring. The programs to do this are probably well designed so that if there is some problem with the source data, the program simply spits out the result of the last successful calculation. I suspect that the last successful calculation was made for data on 18 or 19 Sep, and since then the same value has been plotted in the graph. So these parameters have not actually stopped changing; the program that calculates them has had a problem and has spat out the same number since that time. That is my theory. Has someone sent a e-mail to someone at the site to ask about it? There is an e-mail address on [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 784866 United States 10/02/2009 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? your ‘rocking chair’ it goes backward and forward, yes, well that’s it, your Earth going backward and forward as it seeks to get a balance on her ‘new poles’ (?) that have realigned with the spin of the Northern and Southern vortices. Once the tilting steadies, then the earth hangs in balance, to move to or fro is not going to allow for the ‘reverse spin’ so she stops after tilting and hangs in BALANCE. This will begin your time of Stasis. Hanging in this balance without moving forward or backward will produce atmospheric and environmental responses. You will refer to them as disasters, but it is part of the re-righting of the Earth’s axis. She stands in balance, steady and unmoving while that which is not in vibration with her ascending movement is released from her gravitational forces. The magnetics at the Earth’s core will release and trigger propulsion that forces the involution of space and time as you know it. With such an involution the vortices will ‘suck-in’ or pull to one another and combust at the Earth’s Centre. [link to abundanthope.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 781865 United States 10/02/2009 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? This basically sums up Menow and his posts: Quoting: Menow 405501Mean Erroneous Nasty Obscene WASTE OF LIFE Feel free to point out something I posted which was "erroneous". So then you are agreeing that you are a MEAN, NASTY, OBSCENE, WASTE OF LIFE. Great glad we could clear that one up. As far as being erroneous, nothing you post, state or imagine is provable, it is just your opinion. You can't say that other people agree with you, they have to say it themselves. You have proven yourself to be a pathetic little man and nothing more. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/04/2009 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? The Earth Orientation Center focuses on the polar motion of the Earth. Based on the data that the OP posted about there has been pause in the constant change of polar motion. Perhaps Chandlers Wobble has become constant thus eliminating Chandler's law. One thing is certain the data has remained virtually constant since the date in the subject line. What that means in relation to the Earth and life on it is purely conjecture at this point. Quoting: <:>What the heck is "Chandler's law"?? You are just PRETENDING to know what you are talking about. The date in the subject line is LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO. Exactly HOW does that page show what the OP claims? Please be specific. Hey Dickhead! Read the fucking link I posted that states what Chandlers Wobble is! I didn't ASK you what Chandler's Wobble was, now did I? NO, I didn't, dickwad. Now... WHAT did I ask you? Let's see it's quoted just above... let's just see if you can READ IT. In case you can't(that seems likely) I'll quote it for you. I asked you "What the heck is "Chandler's law"??"(I've bolded it for you as well). Why did I ASK that? I ASKED it because you said: (Here comes another direct quote.. ready?) "...thus eliminating Chandler's law." Now... let's try again, shall we babycakes? Try to read this ONE WORD AT A TIME and see if you can answer the question I am ACTUALLY ASKING. Here it is... READY? OK, here we go... What the heck is "Chandler's law"?? |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/04/2009 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? The OP got the facts wrong but did stumble across an interesting discovery. The fact is that the pole orientation has remained constant according to the report. This is unusual! Quoting: <:>WHAT "report"? Hey Stupid! The report on the Earth Orientation Center. MORAN! QUOTE the alleged "report", moran. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/04/2009 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Earths polar motion unchanged since September 19, 2009. Is this the cause of all the large earthquakes? To put it in simple terms its like a toy top that gains enough momentum to have a perfect symetry with no wobble what so ever. How does that toy top attain perfect symetry? Momentum! So when do the Earth has sped up threads begin Quoting: <:>You are nothing but a rambling, would-be, intellectual. You are simply pulling stuff out of your ass. Quoting: Menow 405501 The only thing coming out of my ass is your brains! Shit for Brains Mother Fucker! Really. Why don't you explain, point by point, exactly what you meant when you posted the bolded part above. You can't because you were simply blowing smoke out your ass. |