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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 720019 11/20/2009 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murray N. Rothbard, in his The Ethics of Liberty, wrote... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 621497" The proper groundwork for analysis of abortion is in every man’s absolute right of self-ownership. This implies immediately that every woman has the absolute right to her own body, that she has absolute dominion over her body and everything within it. This includes the fetus. Most fetuses are in the mother’s womb because the mother consents to this situation, but the fetus is there by the mother’s freely-granted consent. But should the mother decide that she does not want the fetus there any longer, then the fetus becomes a parasitic “invader” of her person, and the mother has the perfect right to expel this invader from her domain. Abortion should be looked upon, not as “murder” of a living person, but as the expulsion of an unwanted invader from the mother’s body.[2] Any laws restricting or prohibiting abortion are therefore invasions of the rights of mothers. It has been objected that since the mother originally consented to the conception, the mother has therefore “contracted” its status with the fetus, and may not “violate” that “contract” by having an abortion. There are many problems with this doctrine, however. In the first place, as we shall see further below, a mere promise is not an enforceable contract: contracts are only properly enforceable if their violation involves implicit theft, and clearly no such consideration can apply here. Secondly, there is obviously no “contract” here, since the fetus (fertilized ovum?) can hardly be considered a voluntarily and consciously contracting entity. And thirdly as we have seen above, a crucial point in libertarian theory is the inalienability of the will, and therefore the impermissibility of enforcing voluntary slave contracts. Even if this had been a “contract,” then, it could not be enforced because a mother’s will is inalienable, and she cannot legitimately be enslaved into carrying and having a baby against her will." [link to mises.org] Rubbish. The "fetus" is a human being, not merely a part of the mother's body. The mother is free to remove her spleen or tonsils if she wishes to do so. It goes without saying that said organs will have no genes from the father to be found within them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 822738 11/20/2009 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have the free choice to do it, doesn't make it right. In the same way a person has the free choice to walk into a primary school and gun down little kids, doesn't make it right. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822576A right is much more than a choice. It is almost like a responsbility. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 720019 11/20/2009 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's pretty evil, OP. Quoting: JRBobDobbsPretty sure the OP is using a fallacious argument against abortion. Agreed. Thanks for saving me the trouble. It was obvious that his post had a sarcastic tone, but I can see how it would be confusing to folks if they missed the link to the article at the "Huffingpaint" Post. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 720019 11/20/2009 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any child under three (some say under five) for which women cannot take care of is eligible for infanticide. Quoting: Rocket ManThis is quite true. Most western women who kill their kids get sent to a psych ward & let out 2 years later because they were somehow a 'victim' of an evil husband.... Most men get the chair or lethal injection. If a man murders his pregnant wife, he's charged with two counts of murder. Yet, under this idea by Farrar, the mother will serve two years in prison if she kills her baby up to a year (A YEAR!)after he/she is born. That's assuming she's diagnosed with postpartum depression or psychosis. It goes without saying that she can abort an unborn human being too. To the pro-choice folks: why would her homicidal husband be charged with two counts of murder? |
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| NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 822378 11/20/2009 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this was common in the past how is it "progressive"? Quoting: astratt7It was done away with to progress or move forward. Only if you believe that patriarchal medieval philosophy leads to progress. Most modern progressives have embraced the Greek philosophy of infanticide as being truly progressive because unaffected by Christianityé Which is why I always fight labels like "progressive" or "conservative". They are far from accurate. That's right...you are a evolutionist...survival of the fittest? Well the Maya would sacrifice hundreds of people and cut out there hearts so they could have good crops...why don't we do that again?....BTW....you go first You are funny. I just said I hate labels and you give me another one "evolutionist". Maya did that, your sure it wasn't Aztec? [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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| Trench User ID: 755005 02/07/2010 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any child under three (some say under five) for which women cannot take care of is eligible for infanticide. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783644From a progressive point of view, legalizing it would be the best way to achieve efficient population control. It was common in the Greek classical age, when liberated advanced women could freely dispose of their children. It's time to return tho Thids Godlen Age of female freedom. “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: trenchhawk@gmail.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 821488 02/07/2010 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any child under three (some say under five) for which women cannot take care of is eligible for infanticide. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 320717From a progressive point of view, legalizing it would be the best way to achieve efficient population control. It was common in the Greek classical age, when liberated advanced women could freely dispose of their children. It's time to return tho Thids Godlen Age of female freedom. A smart woman would just say no to sex if she didn't want a child. Tell that to the zillions of women who have been raped by marauding armies and find themselves pregnant, widowed, and homeless thanks to said army. |
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| Bluebird User ID: 730536 02/09/2010 11:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any child under three (some say under five) for which women cannot take care of is eligible for infanticide. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821488From a progressive point of view, legalizing it would be the best way to achieve efficient population control. It was common in the Greek classical age, when liberated advanced women could freely dispose of their children. It's time to return tho Thids Godlen Age of female freedom. A smart woman would just say no to sex if she didn't want a child. Tell that to the zillions of women who have been raped by marauding armies and find themselves pregnant, widowed, and homeless thanks to said army. Wouldn't the proper thing to do be to kill the marauding armies instead of babies? Always in the instance of rape, it is the rapist who should be killed if you are so bloodthristy. The guilty before the innocent. Personally, I would rather kill those who advocate the killing of innocents before killing the innocents themselves as well. There are lots of people more deserving to die than an innocent baby. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 852839 02/10/2010 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | killing children is never EVER right. However, the post pregnancy (and really the last 3 months of pregnancy) are a 'different' mental and emotional state. taking that into consideration in sentencing is not a wrong thing to do. if it were up to me it'd be some jail time but would also include permanent sterilization since you think you child's life is an option rather than a necessity. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 929725 04/01/2010 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any child under three (some say under five) for which women cannot take care of is eligible for infanticide. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783644From a progressive point of view, legalizing it would be the best way to achieve efficient population control. It was common in the Greek classical age, when liberated advanced women could freely dispose of their children. It's time to return tho Thids Godlen Age of female freedom. greeks also had institutional slavery. you want that too ? |
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| 9teen.47™ User ID: 938797 04/09/2010 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abortion is a very serious matter from a biblical point of view. WHO MURDERED CLARICE?... [link to www.chick.com] Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Jenkins User ID: 940564 04/11/2010 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed, but not everyone uses the Bible as their law book. Old MacDonald had a farm, ee-i-ee-i-o. And on that farm he had a cow, ee-i-ee-i-o. With a moo moo here and a moo moo there Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo Old MacDonald had a farm, ee-i-ee-i-o. |