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Sea of blood as Japan slaughters thousands of dolphins

 
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After i saw the chinese slauthering cats, and now japan slaughthering dolphins, is the arab world so bad?? im sorry to say but most of the oriental world are also sick pupps...totaly gross up by that.
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Your just an moronic fool, trying to judge the world by your own little corner of it.

You ever even been outside the state you were born in yokel?

Damn fucking gooks !

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Japanese aren't gooks. That term is racial slur towards Koreans.

Thanks for proving how retarded you are though.

it is part of the eastern culture. Japanese people will eat anything that swims, anything that crawls and anything that walks on fours.
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Nope, it's part of island living.
You eat what's available.

Just like any other island culture in the world.

ask the chinese and the dolphins about japanese culture

blood thirsty asian island maniacs

they are lucky they only had two bombs dropped on their flat asses
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LMAO

Awwwwwwww, how cute. You think America and China have a clean past.

You sir, are completely retarded.
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What most of these fucks like this guy here don't realize is that Dolphin intelligence is on par with man. In many ways greater!

Just because they don't speak your language doesn't mean they aren't a sentient species!


Ohh yeah,, I see hundreds of dolphin hospitals, schools, manufacturing plants and critical thinkers. What an idiot! Dolphins are intelligent, but no where near have the intelligence of man. You argument diminishes the validity of this tragic practice. Call it what it is! Unnecessary slaughter of a species. Ohhh wait,, isn't that happening to the human race through abortion and starvation of some cultures? How about caring for the human race before you take up a cause for a dolphin? Next time you want to go to the doctor make sure you go to that dolphin clinic that is subscribing to Obama Care, maybe they can help!

You are a fucking idiot just because they have no PHYSICAL means to do what you say does not make the inferior to man. Especially to you. you are a fucking piece of whale shit
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lmao charlie
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I ALREADY POSTED ABOUT THIS BUT NOT EVEN ONE PERSON REPLIED TO THAT THREAD. THANKS. THIS IS HORRIFIC PRACTISE I AM ASHEMED TO BE PART OF HUMAN RACE.


Then go jump in the ocean and cut your leg with a straight razor in the middle of a school of sharks.
You can leave the human race and be shark dung.
By the way, the butchering alive of the dolphins is uncalled for... but the sharks will eat you alive before they shit you out.
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NOT if a dolphin is around they won't, That is the ONLY thing in the sea a shark has respect of, Dolphins will take a shark head on, And most time kill the shark if its a threat, if a dolphin is around a shark is not.
They also saved hundreds maybe many more men during WW2.
Who were shot down in the ocean.
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Oh please, who cares.

I bet none of these cocksuckers would say shit to the Japanese in person.

Do we have to impose all our "politically correct" circle jerks on everyone?

Christ what is next, is the sale of ciggarettes & beer/whisky in vending machines in public streets going to be another OMG!!! think of the childrens!!!!!!

Fuck all the hippies.
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Its not just the dolphins most animals suffer hell by mans hand.
Anyone remember the turkey beheading machine on youtube? with the cage full of turkeys looking on as one by one they are all beheaded and the river of blood gushing out. You think they dont understand and fear? you think they dont love?
Why? because thats what we have been taught while all the slaughter is hidden and the animals or whats left of them are neatly packed in packages ready to grill.
You think they dont recognize kindness and love? or do you prefer to believe just another of the lies that together knit the fabric of this thing we call reality?

Hide you head in the sand or wake up

If we still had to hunt for our meat, I think most folks would have much more respect for other species. Yes, now, folks just go to the supermarket and grab a slab of protein from a rack, not a thought to how the animal was raised or under what conditions that happened or how it was killed. If we had to kill the animal ourselves and had to dress the carcass ourselves, we might be more respectful of the whole process. According to nature, things eat other things to live, so to not eat an animal because it indeed can recognize kindness and or love, is not a good enough reason to not eat it, but it is reason enough to show it respect and to treat it as more than a handy, edible sack of quality protein and fat.
It is a good enough reason not to kill it and eat it.
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Not according to Mother Nature. Tell that to a lion or tiger or bear (Oh, My!)
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I ALREADY POSTED ABOUT THIS BUT NOT EVEN ONE PERSON REPLIED TO THAT THREAD. THANKS. THIS IS HORRIFIC PRACTISE I AM ASHEMED TO BE PART OF HUMAN RACE.


Then go jump in the ocean and cut your leg with a straight razor in the middle of a school of sharks.
You can leave the human race and be shark dung.
By the way, the butchering alive of the dolphins is uncalled for... but the sharks will eat you alive before they shit you out.


NOT if a dolphin is around they won't, That is the ONLY thing in the sea a shark has respect of, Dolphins will take a shark head on, And most time kill the shark if its a threat, if a dolphin is around a shark is not.
They also saved hundreds maybe many more men during WW2.
Who were shot down in the ocean.
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Go learn a thing about Japan's involvement in WWII, and then come back with more hippy bullshit.

In case you've forgotten they don't appologize for shit.
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Big freaking deal

chinese slaughter cats
japanese slaughter dolphins
americans slaughter humans
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muslim's are the worse than of ALL of the above..
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What most of these fucks like this guy here don't realize is that Dolphin intelligence is on par with man. In many ways greater!

Just because they don't speak your language doesn't mean they aren't a sentient species!
 Quoting: Opener of the Way


I know more about dolphins than you do.

I know they are one of the few species apart from man that kills sometimes for pleasure.

Dolphins are not as cute and friendly as the mainstream media has you believe.
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Big freaking deal

chinese slaughter cats
japanese slaughter dolphins
americans slaughter humans
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mmmmmm... i have taste for SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUSSHII!!!!!!!!!

SUSHI! ITS WHATS FOR DINNER!
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Its not just the dolphins most animals suffer hell by mans hand.
Anyone remember the turkey beheading machine on youtube? with the cage full of turkeys looking on as one by one they are all beheaded and the river of blood gushing out. You think they dont understand and fear? you think they dont love?
Why? because thats what we have been taught while all the slaughter is hidden and the animals or whats left of them are neatly packed in packages ready to grill.
You think they dont recognize kindness and love? or do you prefer to believe just another of the lies that together knit the fabric of this thing we call reality?

Hide you head in the sand or wake up

If we still had to hunt for our meat, I think most folks would have much more respect for other species. Yes, now, folks just go to the supermarket and grab a slab of protein from a rack, not a thought to how the animal was raised or under what conditions that happened or how it was killed. If we had to kill the animal ourselves and had to dress the carcass ourselves, we might be more respectful of the whole process. According to nature, things eat other things to live, so to not eat an animal because it indeed can recognize kindness and or love, is not a good enough reason to not eat it, but it is reason enough to show it respect and to treat it as more than a handy, edible sack of quality protein and fat.
It is a good enough reason not to kill it and eat it.

Not according to Mother Nature. Tell that to a lion or tiger or bear (Oh, My!)
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Mother Nature. Mother.

let me guess you think this reality is all there is and ever was and will be?
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I am so tired of people killing dolphins and overfishing the oceans. Japan especially is guilty of this, they just keep fishing with no thought for the future. They are also why whale populations have barely risen even though the whales have been protected for 30 years. You can find whale meat at any japanese fish market, I've seen it myself. They just plan to keep fishing until there is nothing left, and then what happens? Starvation, and they will have no one to blame but themselves.
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I am so tired of people killing dolphins and overfishing the oceans. Japan especially is guilty of this, they just keep fishing with no thought for the future. They are also why whale populations have barely risen even though the whales have been protected for 30 years. You can find whale meat at any japanese fish market, I've seen it myself. They just plan to keep fishing until there is nothing left, and then what happens? Starvation, and they will have no one to blame but themselves.
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Big freaking deal

chinese slaughter cats
japanese slaughter dolphins
americans slaughter humans
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Yes, it is a big freaking deal.

I refuse to accept those things.

We're all capable of love and compassion.

It didn't have to be this way if we weren't so stupid and gullible.

I hope our species gets wiped out soon I really do - we don't deserve to be here - not when we're capable of loving and we deny our collective Human spirit.

I'm so sick of this world, and greatly ashamed of what I've learned of our history and what we've done!
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What most of these fucks like this guy here don't realize is that Dolphin intelligence is on par with man. In many ways greater!

Just because they don't speak your language doesn't mean they aren't a sentient species!


I know more about dolphins than you do.

I know they are one of the few species apart from man that kills sometimes for pleasure.

Dolphins are not as cute and friendly as the mainstream media has you believe.
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seen one do it this summer, He was a big one, we were fishing, caught a snapper, not big enough, throw back,
about that time the dolphin came up, hit the fish one time and circled it several time before it took the whole thing,

THAT IS NOT THE POINT! We are 'suppose' to be the higher level.

I don't know why the dolphin did that to this fish, you assume it was for pleasure, I don't know the reason, but I know that FISH had a hell of a better chance of getting to the bottom than those dolphins ever had of getting out of that slaughter. Its a total disrespect of everything. thats what's so unsettling about it.
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That is why there is such a thing as KARMA, you don't get away with anything, this is where the old saying "you reap what you sow" as it is for very good reason. Only when you yourself experience the suffering you cause another will you not inflict such cruel and inhumane torture, this is how we all learn unfortunately. These 'zombies' doing this are fooling themselves, ...they think in their small minds they won't because they dont see their own suffering happen right away, but the laws of the universe say otherwise, and if one was to experience the same right away, we would not do it anymore, this is why they continue unknowingly thinking they're getting away with it, and they will soon see that 'what comes around does indeed go around'.
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YOU GODDAMN STUPID MOTHERFUCKER. YOU ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO ALL ATHEISTS.
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If you say so, im smart enough to realize human interaction with the environment is not simple.

People simply want to save the dolphins because they are percieved to be cute and friendly, nothing is ever that simple.

If dolphin whale and seal numbers in certain areas were allowed to flurish humans may have to compete for fish stocks in an ever increasing economic minefield...Do you want to pay 25x the price you pay now for fish?, because that may happen.

Also, dozens of species of animals and plant life go extinct every single day, yet i dont see anybody on this forum giving two shits about some ugly fucking spider, you are a bunch of hypcrites.

A famous wildlife conservationist and zoologist said reccently we should let the panda die out and it caused national outcry, simply because the masses were too stupid and programmed to actually understand why he said that, it was because the enconomic cost far outways the point, for the same amount of money effort and space we could save dozens of other animals on the verge of extinction, but nobody wants to know because they are ugly.

As humans in the non developed world continue to expand and modernize, habbitat is destroyed, technically the best thing you could do to save animals is take your own life, it would free up all the resources your life would require that use up energy, space and fuel from the environment.

I love animals, more than you know, but my alliegence is to the human race first, then i try to consider all animals and plants equally.
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We need to nuke these towns, i am serious. Target the precise cruise missiles. Im serious.

I am calling for military action against this attrocity.
Dolphins have been proven to have full self awareness, they will play and use their reflection in a mirror, just as a chimpanzee or human, they have as much brain power, they have complex language and social life and society, they think and feel just LIKE US!

We already fried many Japanese with our nuclear bombs ! But we will do much more before Jesus returns !!Praise The Holy Of holy :: Mar 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. Praise The Lamb:: Amen

A japanese friend of mine told me how when the bombs were thrown the results were beyond horrific Like: peoples eyes melting, yes melting in their heads and rolling down their faces.People running around with melting skin hanging from their bodies.

Now dwell on that before you say such disgusting things.
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What the hell EVER! they were WARNED they WERE told to surrender for MONTHS before or something horrific would happen to them, they were as brutal as the Nazis, It also ended WW2, And that was the only way to end it. They had to be beaten, not converted, like Islam today!
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What most of these fucks like this guy here don't realize is that Dolphin intelligence is on par with man. In many ways greater!

Just because they don't speak your language doesn't mean they aren't a sentient species!


I know more about dolphins than you do.

I know they are one of the few species apart from man that kills sometimes for pleasure.

Dolphins are not as cute and friendly as the mainstream media has you believe.


seen one do it this summer, He was a big one, we were fishing, caught a snapper, not big enough, throw back,
about that time the dolphin came up, hit the fish one time and circled it several time before it took the whole thing,

THAT IS NOT THE POINT! We are 'suppose' to be the higher level.

I don't know why the dolphin did that to this fish, you assume it was for pleasure, I don't know the reason, but I know that FISH had a hell of a better chance of getting to the bottom than those dolphins ever had of getting out of that slaughter. Its a total disrespect of everything. thats what's so unsettling about it.
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Im not talking about them killing fish, thats survival, dolphins eat fish, im talking about dolphins systematically murduring their own kind, especially juvenille dolphins.

They actually practice for it by killing porpoises for fun, because adult poroises are a similar weight and size to young dolphins.

Its been doccumented and proven.
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what is it with you hippie wannabe greenpeace fuckers and dolphins? its not like dolphins as a species are on the verge of extinction. they're prolific, they fuck instead of shaking hands. dolphin safe tuna causes the deaths of many other species of sea life, many of those are actually endangered. google dolphin safe tuna, I dare you, and look at the damage all your bitching about killing Flipper really does. I'd rather have a dolphin salad sandwich than one made with tuna, less impact on the environment.
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Good luck explaining that to these fuckwads.

They are so caught up in the mainstream myth of the dolphin they really have no idea about the sea.

The great white shark is in much more trouble, and the japanese have a history of killing sharks for shark fin soup, but nobody gives a shit about that.
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The level of concern should be proportional to the threat of extinction!

All you fuckers care about is whatever bullshit the media feeds you.
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what is it with you hippie wannabe greenpeace fuckers and dolphins? its not like dolphins as a species are on the verge of extinction. they're prolific, they fuck instead of shaking hands. dolphin safe tuna causes the deaths of many other species of sea life, many of those are actually endangered. google dolphin safe tuna, I dare you, and look at the damage all your bitching about killing Flipper really does. I'd rather have a dolphin salad sandwich than one made with tuna, less impact on the environment.


Good luck explaining that to these fuckwads.

They are so caught up in the mainstream myth of the dolphin they really have no idea about the sea.

The great white shark is in much more trouble, and the japanese have a history of killing sharks for shark fin soup, but nobody gives a shit about that.
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I'm far from a hippie, Also i'm not sure you people understand that: 'WE' here in the United States DO NOT EAT
DOLPHIN, THEY are a protected species!the MAMMAL TYPE,
But there's a FISH also called a Dolphin fish AKA
Malawi Malawi I think many of you are confusing the two.
TWO very different species! one is a a mammal PROTECTED aka you can't catch them OR EAT them! the other one is a FISH
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There are many more horrific videos of these slaughters on youtube as well. Seems Denmark also does their share of killing.


Got any links to Denmark?



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Don't watch this if you have a weak stomach.
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=(

What is this all about? Why do they do this?
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There are many more horrific videos of these slaughters on youtube as well. Seems Denmark also does their share of killing.


Got any links to Denmark?



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Don't watch this if you have a weak stomach.


=(

What is this all about? Why do they do this?
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let me guess, hmmm now thats a difficult question, hmmm, let me think this over. Could it possibly be for MONEY?????
Money , money, money, money, money, money money?
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Why are forests being cut down? Could it be for money?
Why are rivers polluted? Could it be for money?
Why is the air poisoned? Could it be for money?
Why is the sea ransacked? Could it be for money?
Why are animals butchered? Could it be for money?
Why is the earth being so defiled? Could it be for money?
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Now try eating paper or silver or gold or diamonds or pearls, now try drinking them, try breathing them.
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Who cares, they may be cute but they are still food
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Who is killing the dolphins in Japan?
One often encounters this statement: "The Japanese are killing the whales and dolphins!" But it is not the Japanese people who are doing this. The slaughter of dolphins in the small fishing village of Taiji, for example, is carried out by about 26 fishermen. They kill the dolphins with a permit from their government. The majority of people in Japan are totally unaware of this annual government-sanctioned dolphin blood bath.

What species do they kill and how many?
It is estimated that the fishermen of Japan kill about 23,0000 dolphins, porpoises and other small whales annually. About 2,500 of these are killed in the so-called dolphin drive hunt, also known as "drive fishery." The rest are killed with harpoons out at sea. The targeted dolphin species include: Striped dolphins
Bottlenose dolphins
Pantropical spotted dolphins
Risso’s dolphins
Pilot whales
Rough-toothed dolphins
Pseudo orcas
Baird's beaked whales
Dall's porpoises

Why is it called "drive fishery"?
The term "drive fishery" derives from the method of driving, or herding, dolphins into a designated killing cove. We avoid the term "drive fishery," as it leads many to believe that we are talking about fish rather than large marine mammals. Therefore, we call it "dolphin drive hunt." The annual dolphin drive hunt is part of coastal whaling.

When does the dolphin drive hunt take place?
For several years, the dolphin drive hunt in Taiji has taken place from October 1st through March. In recent years, however, the dolphin hunters in Taiji have started the dolphin killing season early, on September 1st.

How do they capture the dolphins?
The fishermen of Taiji have developed a highly effective method of locating, capturing and eradicating dolphins, sometimes as many as one hundred in a single day. Before sunrise, about 26 fishermen board their 13 motorized boats and head out to deep water where the dolphins migrate. The dolphins have been using these migratory paths for thousands, perhaps millions, of years, and the hunters know exactly where to find them. When a school of dolphins swims by, the fishermen position their boats one behind the other, perfectly evenly spaced. Then they lower several stainless steel poles into the water, one on each side of each boat. The poles are flared out at the bottom much like a bell, which amplifies the sound produced when the hunters repeatedly hit the poles with hammers. The noise creates a wall of sound underwater, and the dolphins suddenly find themselves trapped between this wall of sound and the shoreline. Trying to get away from the sound, the dolphins swim in the opposite direction, toward the shore. The dolphins' panic and loss of navigational sense enable the fishermen to drive them into a small, hidden cove near Taiji harbor. The fishermen seal the mouth of the cove with two nets, and the dolphins are trapped. View an animated demonstration of the dolphin drive hunt here.

Why do the fishermen leave the dolphins in the cove overnight before they kill them?
After the dolphin hunters have sealed the killing cove with large nets, they leave the dolphins in the cove, returning the next day at sunrise to kill them. Why don't they kill them right away? One theory is that the dolphin meat tastes better if the dolphins are left overnight so that they calm down after the chase. But this is hard to believe. We have spent hours observing schools of dolphins after they were chased into the killing cove. At no point do they appear to be "relaxed." On the contrary, they spend the entire time hyperventilating, circling their confinement and looking for a way out. We think there are two reasons that the fishermen don't kill the dolphins right away: The hunt often goes on for eight or nine hours, sometimes even longer, with the dolphins escaping the boats and the fishermen chasing them down again. By the time the fishermen have chased the dolphins into the killing cove and sealed their fate with nets, they just want to go home. It's much more convenient for them to rest up and return to the cove the next morning to kill and butcher the dolphins. Another good reason for the fishermen to carry out the bloodbath in the early morning hours is that the killing cove turns a bright red with blood during the slaughter. It takes a while for all the blood to wash out to sea. In the afternoon, many tourists come to the cove to enjoy the beautiful view, unaware that this is where thousands of dolphins are killed in an unimaginably horrific blood bath. The fishermen depend on a high level of secrecy to continue the dolphin hunt. They don't want the Japanese people to know about it, and by killing the dolphins at sunrise, they make sure there is no one to witness it.

How do they kill the dolphins?

Just before sunrise, the fishermen herd the trapped dolphins into shallow water, close to the rocky beach. Here, they kill the dolphins with long, sharp spears. Often times, they stab the dolphins with sharp fishermen's hooks and haul the still living dolphins onto their boats. The cruelty is enormous. The dolphins thrash about in their own blood, and the air fills with their screams.

Why do they kill them?
Officially, the main purpose of the dolphin hunt is to provide dolphin meat to the Japanese people. But only a small minority of people in Japan actually eat the meat. During our many campaigns in Japan, we even got the impression that dolphin meat is considered "trashy," unlike the much more expensive whale meat. There is another essential, and rather shocking, aspect to the dolphin hunt: During a meeting with the Taiji fishermen in January 2004, the fishermen told us that they don't only hunt dolphins for their meat or for sale to the dolphinarium industry. In their own words, they kill the dolphins "as a form of pest control." The dolphins, from the fishermen’s perspective, eat too much fish, and the fishermen are simply killing the competition. This is the first time ever that Japanese dolphin hunters have openly admitted to executing pest control on dolphins. Over-fishing of the oceans is a tremendous problem on a global level, and the Japanese fishermen, supported by their government, are wrongly pointing at the dolphins as the reason for this depletion. The desire to keep the dolphin population down is a major reason why the Japanese government is so keen on issuing permits for the hunts. It is not really about providing meat for the Japanese people. It is not really about maintaining what the fishermen repeatedly refer to as their "tradition or "culture." It is about eradicating as many dolphins as possible in order to make the oceans' fish available to themselves.

Why don't the dolphins jump the nets?
We are asked this many times, and understandably so. When standing at the mouth of the killing cove in Taiji, we have often looked down at a school of dolphins trapped in the killing cove. From above, it's obvious that all the dolphins have to do is jump the nets, and they would be out of harm's way. But the dolphins don't have this advantage of seeing everything from above. They don't know what's on the other side of the nets. To us, a jump would be a leap into safety. To them, it's a leap into the unknown. It's also important to keep in mind that nets and other artificial boundaries are foreign objects to wild dolphins. Living in a three-dimensional world, the only boundaries they know are the shoreline and the ocean's surface. These are a natural boundaries that dolphins understand. A net, on the other hand, is completely unfamiliar to them. They are probably afraid of this strange phenomenon and therefore stay away from it.

Have you ever seen dolphins escape after they were chased into the killing cove?
Yes, a few times. Once, a young pilot whale, no more than a year old, swam across the net in a place where it had been placed so low that its upper edge touched the surface of the water. The pilot whale managed to do the same with the second net and for a little while was free to swim away. A large pilot whale immediately joined the young calf. Even though they could have easily fled, the pilot whales remained close to their still trapped pod members. It was a dolphin trainer who alerted the fishermen that two pilot whales had escaped. Aided by the trainer, the fishermen brought their boats around and chased the pilot whales back into the killing cove. The entire school of pilot whales was killed and butchered the next morning.

Why do members of the dolphinarium industry take advantage of the hunt?
We have been reporting from Taiji regularly since 2003, and the most shocking aspect of the dolphin drive hunt is the active role that some dolphinariums play in sustaining the hunt. Dolphinariums are always looking for ways to obtain more dolphins. Many times, the fishermen of Taiji will drive a large school of bottlenose dolphins into the killing cove, and dolphin trainers and marine mammal veterinarians flock to the scene to seek out the best-looking dolphins for their display facilities. By doing business with the dolphin killers, they are helping to maintain the dolphin drive hunts. A live dolphin sold to a dolphinarium brings in a much higher profit than does a dead dolphin sold as meat. In Taiji, live bottlenose dolphins have been sold for as much as $154,000. The dolphin massacres in Japan will continue for as long as members of the international dolphin display industry reward the fishermen with thousands of dollars for animals that are deemed suitable for commercial exploitation in captivity. Dolphinariums that work together with the Japanese dolphin killers are a major reason that the dolphin massacres are still going on.

But are dolphinariums not saving the selected dolphins from slaughter?
Dolphinariums that purchase dolphins from the dolphin killers will tell you they are "saving" the dolphins from slaughter. We view this as nothing but propaganda, aimed at concealing the fact that they are fuelling the dolphin hunt by making it tremendously profitable. Working side by side, dolphin trainers and fishermen force the dolphins into shallow water, haul the dolphins ashore and line them up. The trainers then inspect the dolphins one by one, choosing only the ones that can be used in dolphin shows and captive dolphin swim programs. They are typically looking for young, unblemished dolphins. They "save" only the ones that can be commercially exploited in the display industry. The ones that are too old, too young, have the wrong gender or have too many blemishes are not worth "saving" to them, so they let the fishermen kill them. We have seen dolphin trainers assist the fishermen in bringing the rejects to the killing cove to have their throats slit. They don't even bother to inspect the very young babies, knowing that they can't be used in dolphin shows. Using ropes and physical force, dolphin trainers separate the babies from their mothers. They haul the mothers close to the rocky beach to measure and inspect them. The babies cry out, but they are doomed. The dolphin trainers are not going to help them. If these dolphin trainers and marine mammal veterinarians were into "saving" dolphins, they would be there with a protest sign and video cameras, just like we are. Instead, they take advantage of the dolphin slaughter to nourish the huge profits made from captive dolphins. The grueling selection process drags on for several hours, and some dolphins die from either shock, injuries or exhaustion during this time. Some make frantic attempts at staying at the surface of the water, but their pectoral fins have been dislocated or broken. An injured dolphin is worth nothing to the aquarium industry, and the dolphin trainers simply haul the dying dolphins back into the water and dump them, showing no emotion whatsoever.

Is it true that you have seen dolphin trainers actually assisting in killing dolphins?
Yes. It is described in detail in "Witness to a Dolphin Capture." Several times, we have seen dolphin trainers and dolphin killers in the same boat, laughing and joking around after a large school of dolphins had just been killed. We have seen members of the international aquarium and zoo industry get in the water with the dolphin killers, tying ropes around the dolphins' tail flukes so that the fishermen could tie the dolphins to their boats. Often times, the dolphins are so exhausted at this point, they can't even stay afloat. Some have large amounts of blood coming out of their blow holes. The dolphin trainers don't seem to care. The fishermen haul the dolphins to the killing cove, with the dolphins' blow holes underwater. The dolphins have been tormented by dolphin trainers for hours. Some are in shock. Others are seriously injured, and they can't breathe. Now, they are going to be killed and slaughtered. Not even pregnant females or young calves will be spared. But the dolphin trainers, who claim to "love" dolphins, don't try to save any of them. It is the most cruel scene we have ever witnessed.

What's wrong with eating dolphin meat?
Cruelty issues set aside, dolphin meat from drive hunts in Taiji, Wakayama prefecture, proved to be highly contaminated with toxic chemicals such as mercury, methyl mercury and PCBs. Repeated chemical analyses have shown that the level of mercury in dolphin meat is much higher than the maximum allowable level set by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare of Japan. There is worldwide concern that mercury accumulated in the human body may pose a serious health risk, especially to pregnant women and children. The contaminated dolphin meat does not have a warning label.

As long as cows and pigs continue to be mistreated in the Western world, what right to we have to criticize the dolphin hunt?
Great question.

Cows, pigs and other domesticated animals are also being consumed in great numbers in Japan. If the meat of these animals was contaminated with mercury, the Japanese people and the Western world would stop eating it immediately.

The inhumane treatment of domesticated animals in Western slaughter houses presents yet another pressing animal welfare issue. Our coalition consists of four organizations that work on several animal welfare and environmental issues. Among them are the Korean dog trade, stopping the use of elephants in the circus industry and abolishing factory farming, just to name a few issues. But you cannot be effective if you work on all animal issues at the same time. Our coalition, therefore, focuses on one issue, which is that of stopping the largest slaughter of dolphins in the world.

There is another aspect to this question: Simply because animals are mistreated in the Western world, does that mean that a Westerner who cares about animal welfare should overlook animal welfare issues abroad? Of course not. If an animal welfare organization from Japan or any other country came to the United States to document and expose the cruelty that goes in our slaughter houses, we would welcome them with open arms and help them achieve their goals. Animals don't carry passports. They are not nationalistic, and our work to save them shouldn't be, either.

One might also simply say: Two wrongs don't make a right.

What right do you as Westerners have to tell the Japanese what to do?
We usually receive this question from the fishermen who make a living hunting dolphins. Government officials in Japan are trying to turn the dolphin slaughter issue into one of cultural imperialism. But we are not telling the Japanese people what to do. On the contrary, we are fighting for their constitutional right to know the facts about an issue that the fishermen and their government are systematically hiding from them. Most people in Japan have no idea that the dolphin slaughter is going on. And they have no idea that the dolphin meat that is served to their children in their schools' lunch programs is poisoned with mercury. The fishermen once told us that they have no right to know about it. We say they have every right to know about it. We think the Japanese people are being exploited by the fishermen and their government in their self-serving quest to turn the dolphin drive hunt into an issue of "food culture" when, in realty, it's about something entirely different: pest control. It is the fishermen and their government that are telling the Japanese people what to do and think. They are the ones who decide what the public can and cannot know about. Many Westerners wrongly blame an entire Japanese nation for something they know nothing about and are not guilty of. The Japanese people are entitled to at least know why the rest of the world is so upset with them. Article 21 of the Japanese Constitution guarentees them that right. More importantly, they have a right to make up their own minds regarding their food culture, rather than have their government and some few fishermen dictate to them what their "culture" should be.



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Re: Sea of blood as Japan slaughters thousands of dolphins
Who is killing the dolphins in Japan?
One often encounters this statement: "The Japanese are killing the whales and dolphins!" But it is not the Japanese people who are doing this. The slaughter of dolphins in the small fishing village of Taiji, for example, is carried out by about 26 fishermen. They kill the dolphins with a permit from their government. The majority of people in Japan are totally unaware of this annual government-sanctioned dolphin blood bath.

What species do they kill and how many?
It is estimated that the fishermen of Japan kill about 23,0000 dolphins, porpoises and other small whales annually. About 2,500 of these are killed in the so-called dolphin drive hunt, also known as "drive fishery." The rest are killed with harpoons out at sea. The targeted dolphin species include: Striped dolphins
Bottlenose dolphins
Pantropical spotted dolphins
Risso’s dolphins
Pilot whales
Rough-toothed dolphins
Pseudo orcas
Baird's beaked whales
Dall's porpoises

Why is it called "drive fishery"?
The term "drive fishery" derives from the method of driving, or herding, dolphins into a designated killing cove. We avoid the term "drive fishery," as it leads many to believe that we are talking about fish rather than large marine mammals. Therefore, we call it "dolphin drive hunt." The annual dolphin drive hunt is part of coastal whaling.

When does the dolphin drive hunt take place?
For several years, the dolphin drive hunt in Taiji has taken place from October 1st through March. In recent years, however, the dolphin hunters in Taiji have started the dolphin killing season early, on September 1st.

How do they capture the dolphins?
The fishermen of Taiji have developed a highly effective method of locating, capturing and eradicating dolphins, sometimes as many as one hundred in a single day. Before sunrise, about 26 fishermen board their 13 motorized boats and head out to deep water where the dolphins migrate. The dolphins have been using these migratory paths for thousands, perhaps millions, of years, and the hunters know exactly where to find them. When a school of dolphins swims by, the fishermen position their boats one behind the other, perfectly evenly spaced. Then they lower several stainless steel poles into the water, one on each side of each boat. The poles are flared out at the bottom much like a bell, which amplifies the sound produced when the hunters repeatedly hit the poles with hammers. The noise creates a wall of sound underwater, and the dolphins suddenly find themselves trapped between this wall of sound and the shoreline. Trying to get away from the sound, the dolphins swim in the opposite direction, toward the shore. The dolphins' panic and loss of navigational sense enable the fishermen to drive them into a small, hidden cove near Taiji harbor. The fishermen seal the mouth of the cove with two nets, and the dolphins are trapped. View an animated demonstration of the dolphin drive hunt here.

Why do the fishermen leave the dolphins in the cove overnight before they kill them?
After the dolphin hunters have sealed the killing cove with large nets, they leave the dolphins in the cove, returning the next day at sunrise to kill them. Why don't they kill them right away? One theory is that the dolphin meat tastes better if the dolphins are left overnight so that they calm down after the chase. But this is hard to believe. We have spent hours observing schools of dolphins after they were chased into the killing cove. At no point do they appear to be "relaxed." On the contrary, they spend the entire time hyperventilating, circling their confinement and looking for a way out. We think there are two reasons that the fishermen don't kill the dolphins right away: The hunt often goes on for eight or nine hours, sometimes even longer, with the dolphins escaping the boats and the fishermen chasing them down again. By the time the fishermen have chased the dolphins into the killing cove and sealed their fate with nets, they just want to go home. It's much more convenient for them to rest up and return to the cove the next morning to kill and butcher the dolphins. Another good reason for the fishermen to carry out the bloodbath in the early morning hours is that the killing cove turns a bright red with blood during the slaughter. It takes a while for all the blood to wash out to sea. In the afternoon, many tourists come to the cove to enjoy the beautiful view, unaware that this is where thousands of dolphins are killed in an unimaginably horrific blood bath. The fishermen depend on a high level of secrecy to continue the dolphin hunt. They don't want the Japanese people to know about it, and by killing the dolphins at sunrise, they make sure there is no one to witness it.

How do they kill the dolphins?

Just before sunrise, the fishermen herd the trapped dolphins into shallow water, close to the rocky beach. Here, they kill the dolphins with long, sharp spears. Often times, they stab the dolphins with sharp fishermen's hooks and haul the still living dolphins onto their boats. The cruelty is enormous. The dolphins thrash about in their own blood, and the air fills with their screams.

Why do they kill them?
Officially, the main purpose of the dolphin hunt is to provide dolphin meat to the Japanese people. But only a small minority of people in Japan actually eat the meat. During our many campaigns in Japan, we even got the impression that dolphin meat is considered "trashy," unlike the much more expensive whale meat. There is another essential, and rather shocking, aspect to the dolphin hunt: During a meeting with the Taiji fishermen in January 2004, the fishermen told us that they don't only hunt dolphins for their meat or for sale to the dolphinarium industry. In their own words, they kill the dolphins "as a form of pest control." The dolphins, from the fishermen’s perspective, eat too much fish, and the fishermen are simply killing the competition. This is the first time ever that Japanese dolphin hunters have openly admitted to executing pest control on dolphins. Over-fishing of the oceans is a tremendous problem on a global level, and the Japanese fishermen, supported by their government, are wrongly pointing at the dolphins as the reason for this depletion. The desire to keep the dolphin population down is a major reason why the Japanese government is so keen on issuing permits for the hunts. It is not really about providing meat for the Japanese people. It is not really about maintaining what the fishermen repeatedly refer to as their "tradition or "culture." It is about eradicating as many dolphins as possible in order to make the oceans' fish available to themselves.

Why don't the dolphins jump the nets?
We are asked this many times, and understandably so. When standing at the mouth of the killing cove in Taiji, we have often looked down at a school of dolphins trapped in the killing cove. From above, it's obvious that all the dolphins have to do is jump the nets, and they would be out of harm's way. But the dolphins don't have this advantage of seeing everything from above. They don't know what's on the other side of the nets. To us, a jump would be a leap into safety. To them, it's a leap into the unknown. It's also important to keep in mind that nets and other artificial boundaries are foreign objects to wild dolphins. Living in a three-dimensional world, the only boundaries they know are the shoreline and the ocean's surface. These are a natural boundaries that dolphins understand. A net, on the other hand, is completely unfamiliar to them. They are probably afraid of this strange phenomenon and therefore stay away from it.

Have you ever seen dolphins escape after they were chased into the killing cove?
Yes, a few times. Once, a young pilot whale, no more than a year old, swam across the net in a place where it had been placed so low that its upper edge touched the surface of the water. The pilot whale managed to do the same with the second net and for a little while was free to swim away. A large pilot whale immediately joined the young calf. Even though they could have easily fled, the pilot whales remained close to their still trapped pod members. It was a dolphin trainer who alerted the fishermen that two pilot whales had escaped. Aided by the trainer, the fishermen brought their boats around and chased the pilot whales back into the killing cove. The entire school of pilot whales was killed and butchered the next morning.

Why do members of the dolphinarium industry take advantage of the hunt?
We have been reporting from Taiji regularly since 2003, and the most shocking aspect of the dolphin drive hunt is the active role that some dolphinariums play in sustaining the hunt. Dolphinariums are always looking for ways to obtain more dolphins. Many times, the fishermen of Taiji will drive a large school of bottlenose dolphins into the killing cove, and dolphin trainers and marine mammal veterinarians flock to the scene to seek out the best-looking dolphins for their display facilities. By doing business with the dolphin killers, they are helping to maintain the dolphin drive hunts. A live dolphin sold to a dolphinarium brings in a much higher profit than does a dead dolphin sold as meat. In Taiji, live bottlenose dolphins have been sold for as much as $154,000. The dolphin massacres in Japan will continue for as long as members of the international dolphin display industry reward the fishermen with thousands of dollars for animals that are deemed suitable for commercial exploitation in captivity. Dolphinariums that work together with the Japanese dolphin killers are a major reason that the dolphin massacres are still going on.

But are dolphinariums not saving the selected dolphins from slaughter?
Dolphinariums that purchase dolphins from the dolphin killers will tell you they are "saving" the dolphins from slaughter. We view this as nothing but propaganda, aimed at concealing the fact that they are fuelling the dolphin hunt by making it tremendously profitable. Working side by side, dolphin trainers and fishermen force the dolphins into shallow water, haul the dolphins ashore and line them up. The trainers then inspect the dolphins one by one, choosing only the ones that can be used in dolphin shows and captive dolphin swim programs. They are typically looking for young, unblemished dolphins. They "save" only the ones that can be commercially exploited in the display industry. The ones that are too old, too young, have the wrong gender or have too many blemishes are not worth "saving" to them, so they let the fishermen kill them. We have seen dolphin trainers assist the fishermen in bringing the rejects to the killing cove to have their throats slit. They don't even bother to inspect the very young babies, knowing that they can't be used in dolphin shows. Using ropes and physical force, dolphin trainers separate the babies from their mothers. They haul the mothers close to the rocky beach to measure and inspect them. The babies cry out, but they are doomed. The dolphin trainers are not going to help them. If these dolphin trainers and marine mammal veterinarians were into "saving" dolphins, they would be there with a protest sign and video cameras, just like we are. Instead, they take advantage of the dolphin slaughter to nourish the huge profits made from captive dolphins. The grueling selection process drags on for several hours, and some dolphins die from either shock, injuries or exhaustion during this time. Some make frantic attempts at staying at the surface of the water, but their pectoral fins have been dislocated or broken. An injured dolphin is worth nothing to the aquarium industry, and the dolphin trainers simply haul the dying dolphins back into the water and dump them, showing no emotion whatsoever.

Is it true that you have seen dolphin trainers actually assisting in killing dolphins?
Yes. It is described in detail in "Witness to a Dolphin Capture." Several times, we have seen dolphin trainers and dolphin killers in the same boat, laughing and joking around after a large school of dolphins had just been killed. We have seen members of the international aquarium and zoo industry get in the water with the dolphin killers, tying ropes around the dolphins' tail flukes so that the fishermen could tie the dolphins to their boats. Often times, the dolphins are so exhausted at this point, they can't even stay afloat. Some have large amounts of blood coming out of their blow holes. The dolphin trainers don't seem to care. The fishermen haul the dolphins to the killing cove, with the dolphins' blow holes underwater. The dolphins have been tormented by dolphin trainers for hours. Some are in shock. Others are seriously injured, and they can't breathe. Now, they are going to be killed and slaughtered. Not even pregnant females or young calves will be spared. But the dolphin trainers, who claim to "love" dolphins, don't try to save any of them. It is the most cruel scene we have ever witnessed.

What's wrong with eating dolphin meat?
Cruelty issues set aside, dolphin meat from drive hunts in Taiji, Wakayama prefecture, proved to be highly contaminated with toxic chemicals such as mercury, methyl mercury and PCBs. Repeated chemical analyses have shown that the level of mercury in dolphin meat is much higher than the maximum allowable level set by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare of Japan. There is worldwide concern that mercury accumulated in the human body may pose a serious health risk, especially to pregnant women and children. The contaminated dolphin meat does not have a warning label.

As long as cows and pigs continue to be mistreated in the Western world, what right to we have to criticize the dolphin hunt?
Great question.

Cows, pigs and other domesticated animals are also being consumed in great numbers in Japan. If the meat of these animals was contaminated with mercury, the Japanese people and the Western world would stop eating it immediately.

The inhumane treatment of domesticated animals in Western slaughter houses presents yet another pressing animal welfare issue. Our coalition consists of four organizations that work on several animal welfare and environmental issues. Among them are the Korean dog trade, stopping the use of elephants in the circus industry and abolishing factory farming, just to name a few issues. But you cannot be effective if you work on all animal issues at the same time. Our coalition, therefore, focuses on one issue, which is that of stopping the largest slaughter of dolphins in the world.

There is another aspect to this question: Simply because animals are mistreated in the Western world, does that mean that a Westerner who cares about animal welfare should overlook animal welfare issues abroad? Of course not. If an animal welfare organization from Japan or any other country came to the United States to document and expose the cruelty that goes in our slaughter houses, we would welcome them with open arms and help them achieve their goals. Animals don't carry passports. They are not nationalistic, and our work to save them shouldn't be, either.

One might also simply say: Two wrongs don't make a right.

What right do you as Westerners have to tell the Japanese what to do?
We usually receive this question from the fishermen who make a living hunting dolphins. Government officials in Japan are trying to turn the dolphin slaughter issue into one of cultural imperialism. But we are not telling the Japanese people what to do. On the contrary, we are fighting for their constitutional right to know the facts about an issue that the fishermen and their government are systematically hiding from them. Most people in Japan have no idea that the dolphin slaughter is going on. And they have no idea that the dolphin meat that is served to their children in their schools' lunch programs is poisoned with mercury. The fishermen once told us that they have no right to know about it. We say they have every right to know about it. We think the Japanese people are being exploited by the fishermen and their government in their self-serving quest to turn the dolphin drive hunt into an issue of "food culture" when, in realty, it's about something entirely different: pest control. It is the fishermen and their government that are telling the Japanese people what to do and think. They are the ones who decide what the public can and cannot know about. Many Westerners wrongly blame an entire Japanese nation for something they know nothing about and are not guilty of. The Japanese people are entitled to at least know why the rest of the world is so upset with them. Article 21 of the Japanese Constitution guarentees them that right. More importantly, they have a right to make up their own minds regarding their food culture, rather than have their government and some few fishermen dictate to them what their "culture" should be.



[link to www.savejapandolphins.org]
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That article is full of fail and bullshit.
Those kill numbers are exaggerated a good 25%.

Japanese eat seafood because they don't have large vast plains to ranch and farm.

JAPAN IS A SERIES OF ISLANDS!

That is it, end of story.

Island people eat from the ocean.

I wonder why you can't seem to get that simple fact through your head.

You don't like it, TFB.
Your source is just a slanderer trying to speak for Japanese in general, they need to STFU.

The Japanese people have spoken through their actions, if they really had a problem with it then they could have stopped it long ago.

Uppity fool.

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That is why there is such a thing as KARMA, you don't get away with anything, this is where the old saying "you reap what you sow" as it is for very good reason. Only when you yourself experience the suffering you cause another will you not inflict such cruel and inhumane torture, this is how we all learn unfortunately. These 'zombies' doing this are fooling themselves, ...they think in their small minds they won't because they dont see their own suffering happen right away, but the laws of the universe say otherwise, and if one was to experience the same right away, we would not do it anymore, this is why they continue unknowingly thinking they're getting away with it, and they will soon see that 'what comes around does indeed go around'.
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