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BIBLE PROVES THAT THERE ARE NO ETs OR MARTIANS

 
ThreshingSword

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Sorry for putting you on the spot Dennis.
Since you don't seem to care for my style, I will just finish up my little chat with you by completely my last question for you so you will know the answer when someone else comes to you with questions.
My last question about Eze. 1:was verse's 23 to 28.

So starting with verse 23 we see some straight wings.. Is that a monster or something? NO! But it is something that you can't see with you mind for some reason.

Verse 24: Eze. hears something. He hears a voice! Oh my, it is the voice of the Almighty... Who is that ? Well that must be God, huh?

25: Oh we see the wings are being let down now.. I wonder what those wings are that Eze. is talking about?

26: Oh my we see the likeness of a throne.. Who's throne is that Dennis? Is it the boogie mans throne or some creature's throne? Oh, we see the appearance of a man above and upon the throne. Oh my, I wonder who that is that came out of those four creatures mentioned in verse 10...

27: Oh boy here is those words "colour of amber" again. Oh my it is talking about some body that has loins... Oh, I wonder who that could be that Ezekiel is talking about there coming out of that creature looking thing that has four faces and wings and all the other stuff like fire and etc.?

27 again... Ever hear about the rainbow around God?
God has some pretty good looking clothing, right?
28 Oh my again the bow, which is like the earthly rainbow is spoken of again to tell us what is surrounding God.

Oh my also in verse 28 we hear God starting to talk to Ezekiel.. Everyone notice in your King James bible that the word "One" is in upper case letter "O". For a reason my friend, it defines who we are talking about, that is, God.
Chapter two, God begins to talk to Ezekiel and it is so cool, he came out of those four faced creatures.......
Eze. 2:1 "And He (God) said unto me (Ezekiel), "Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee."
Oh my God telling Ezekiel," get up off the ground and stand up and talk to me like a man"...
Now here is the kicker for ya... Dennnis..
Ezekiel 1:4, the question I asked about what does it say in the manuscripts about the words "colour of amber", states this" Highly polished bronze".
Oh by, kind of takes the different look huh.
See, Dennis God came to Ezekiel in a craft and there were five craft all together, and four were guard ships..
I bet now you think I have the devil in me for making that statement....
Dennis, I thank you for the short chat, but hey, we all have to learn something new each day, right...?
Big blessings to ya, and may God grant you your wish of understanding scripture..
 Quoting: Little Star


Yes, it is! Copper colored! God's craft are bronze/copper colored! It sounds like the "firmament that was over their head" is some kind of clear covering like glass but not glass, but you can see through it.

I don't understand how people can read all of this and even the story of Mt. Sinai and Moses and the craft that descended there, the "clouds," etc., and not see that God does indeed travel in some kind of "space craft."
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For those not yet 'in the know' . . . please carefully review the following (highly informative) site:

[link to bibleufo.com]
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Very fascinating things about the Bible:
I recommend....www.bible-codes.org
Dean Coombs is a Prophet of God, in Toronto, Canada.
His on-line ministry is safe, free, Christian, anonymous.

Sept 11, 2001,
the WORLD TRADE CENTER collapsed,,exactly 7 years later, the WORLD TRADE collapsed, with Dow drop of 777.7 points
exactly 7 years later, on 9-11-08,,,,,,IN THE CENTERPOINT OF THE 7-DAY "FEAST OF TABERNACLES", which is a fore-shadow of the GREAT TRIBULATION

The all-time RECORD for one-day DOW-JONES stock market point drop was 777.7 points, 7 years after the WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSE, on Sept 30, 2008,,,,as a result of the WORLD TRADE COLLAPSE.

7 is God's number for God, completion, perfection.
777 = God the Father
666 = the ANTI-CHRIST
888 = the SON OF GOD, Jesus Christ (gematria)

The Dow-Jones closed at 9605 on 9-11-01 tuesday, 9-10-01 monday, and 9-07-01 friday, and 9-11-09.
9605 = 9(605) = 9(6+0+5) = 9(11) = 9/11/01 = date of disaster.
So, God closed the Dow on 9-11 points, on date 9-11 (sept 11). Twice.
The Disaster, and exactly 8 years later.

the lowest close for S&P 500 INDEX for the last 10 years is 666 in March 2009.

there are many 7-year-periods in the Bible,
the 7 years from 9-11-01 to 9-11-08 is a fore-shadow of the soon-coming 7-year GREAT TRIBULATION PERIOD. (Daniel and Revelations)

At the end of the Great Tribulation, the world economy will collapse, and business-men will weep because they had profited from trade with Babylon. (Revelations 18;11).
Today's economic collapse is a foreshadow of that coming Collapse.

The 9-11 Disaster was a SIGN FROM GOD, warning the world, that the End of the Age is near; Believe God and repent, before it's too late.
The world failed to heed the warning, so, exactly 7 years later, God collapsed the WORLD TRADE.

God picked the date Sept 11 (9-11) because 911 is the famous EMERGENCY number. The "emergency" was: the whole world is ripe for Judgement, and was near Disaster and God's Judgement.

On 9-11-02, the first aniversary of the 9-11 Disaster, there were 3 SIGNS that proved that the 9-11-01 Disaster was a SIGN FROM GOD. See www.bible-codes.org for that.
The NY State Lottery randomly picked the numbers 9-1-1 as the winning number on 9-11-02. The huge USA Flag at the GROUND ZERO ceremony split in two pieces, horizontally. On TV, the CNN news anchors remarked how strange and wierd that was.
[link to www.bible-codes.org]

Saddam Hussein died on Dec 29, 2006.
About 3 months before he died, Dean Coombs was reading a bible-code from the Old Testament. The code said that Saddam would die on 12-29-06, by hanging by the neck with a rope, like Haman in the book ESTHER (OT).
Dean told this on his web-site, I marked it on my calendar at home, I waited 3 months, and Saddam died on that day, by the predicted method of death! Wow!

God predicted Saddam's death-date and method-of-death, to the exact day, 2500 years before it happened, in the Bible (OT), in a hidden bible-code.
In Isaiah, God says that the proof that He is the only True God is.......the God of Israel is the only one who can predict the future. No other god, person, Scripture, religion, science even attempts to predict the future (they know that they can't do it). Isaiah 46;9-10.

The Bible (OT and NT) is about 28% predictions of the future. And much of that prophecy has already come true (fulfilled). The fulfillment of some prophecies, such as Christ's Second Coming, is in our future (not yet fulfilled).


God has sent many SIGNS FROM GOD, starting on Jan 1, 2000.
Dean Coombs told us: The SIGNS will start slow and easy,,,,,,then increase in frequence and pain, as time goes along, like a woman's child-birth pains. (1 Thess 5;1-11).
At the end of this series of SIGNS, the Signs will be so blatant, obvious, understandable,,,,,that every person on earth will understand that it is a SIGN FROM GOD and the End of the Age.


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quote from [link to www.bible-codes.org]
God Has Everything Under Control!


The collapse of the World Trade Center was a sign of the collapse of world trade seven years later as predicted by the Mene Tekel Bible Code.

As the quotations from an article by Wikipedia shows, two pivotal events that mark this collapse in September occurred on Sept. 7 and 14, with the middle of that week being Sept. 11, which was the seventh anniversary of the collapse of the Trade Centers in 2001 --- the very symbols of commerce. Sept. 14 was especially significant.



The following is quoted from Wikipedia. (While Wikipedia is not an authorities source, however, it does tend to hash out prevailing points of view.)


Sunday, September 7, 2008
The United States director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), James B. Lockhart III, on September 7, 2008 announced his decision to place two United States Government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), Fannie Mae (Federal National Mortgage Association) and Freddie Mac (Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation), into conservatorship run by FHFA. United States Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, at the same press conference stated that placing the two GSEs into conservatorship was a decision he fully supported, and said that he advised "that conservatorship was the only form in which I would commit taxpayer money to the GSEs."



Sunday, September 14, 2008



The collapse of Lehman Brothers was a symbol of the global financial crisis.

On Sunday, September 14, it was announced that Lehman Brothers would file for bankruptcy after the Federal Reserve Bank declined to participate in creating a financial support facility for Lehman Brothers. The significance of the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy is disputed with some assigning it a pivotal role in the unfolding of subsequent events. The principals involved, Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson, dispute this view, citing a volume of toxic assets at Lehman which made a rescue impossible. Immediately following the bankruptcy, J.P. Morgan provided the broker dealer unit of Lehman Brothers with $138 billion to "settle securities transactions with customers of Lehman and its clearance parties" according to a statement made in a New York City Bankruptcy court filing.

The same day, the sale of Merrill Lynch to Bank of America was announced. The beginning of the week was marked by extreme instability in global stock markets, with dramatic drops in market values on Monday, September 15, and Wednesday, September 17. On September 16, the large insurer American International Group (AIG), a significant participant in the credit default swaps markets suffered a liquidity crisis following the downgrade of its credit rating. The Federal Reserve, at AIG's request, and after AIG has shown that it could not find lenders willing to save it from insolvency, created a credit facility for up to US$85 billion in exchange for an 79.9% equity interest, and the right to suspend dividends to previously issued common and preferred stock.


This week of Sept. 7-14 just happens to correspond to the seventh month, the 15-22 on the 360-bible prophecy calendar as explained in dozens of articles and as repeatedly chronicled over the past 15 years on my web sites. (Please keep in mind that this calendar is slightly different than the regular Jewish calendar used today.) These dates, the 7th month, the 15-22 corresponds to what the bible calls the week of the "Feast of Tabernacles".

Students of bible prophecy point out that the seven days of Tabernacles are a type and foreshadow of the "seven years of the Great Tribulation period" to come, during which period world economies will collapse and then be restructured, (Rev. 13). We see the same thing happening now. (This is not to say that we are now entering the Great Tribulation period, but that this is likely another lead up to it, and as such, God is using the same time frames of that final climatic period still to come! God is reminding us that He is sovereign over all. I am referring to the biblical time frame of a seven-year period divided in half, or as days, 1260 plus 1290/1335 days, etc., Dan. 12, Rev. 12-13.) Thus, from the fall of the World Trade Center to the fall of world trade are a week of years unto the exact week of Tabernacles! This is highly significant in its obvious symbolism.

The Feast of Tabernacles was a festival that commemorated the wanderings in the wilderness for 40 years by the children of Israel when they came out of Egypt. (Please see Rev. 12:1-6, perhaps with a commentary, for the thematic connection between these seven years and the 40 years in the wilderness.) The seven days of Tabernacles has its ultimate fulfillment when God removes His people out of this world at some point in the coming seven-years of tribulation, and then we will "tabernacle" with God face to face forever.

(Rev. 21:3-4) "And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

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A few years ago, DEAN COOMBS told us: a world-wide economic collapse and famine will come soon.
I'm stock-piling food, water, toiletries, necessaries, etc.

God reveals His Secrets and Spiritual messages to His disciples, but He closes the Spiritual understanding of the un-believing crowds.
Let's be His Disciples. (Matthew 13;1-17)

Lord Jesus Christ, we praise You. Please reveal to us Your Secrets.
amen.

These Signs and Disasters are not primarily punitive; They are primarily Redemptive. God would much rather forgive and save us, than to punish us. God is trying to save as many as possible.
But, many reject Christ, because people love the pleasures of sin, rather than the Love and Righteousness of God.

God uses many ways to save people. Bible-codes are just one of many ways that God uses to catch people's interest in God/Bible/Salvation.
For example, some people are attracted to City Churches. Others are attracted to rural Churches.
Some people find the Lord thru good times. Others thru hard times.
Some get saved when they're arrested, some get saved thru sports, charity, etc.

And, in the Great Trib, these patterns of Signs will repeat, and a future End-Time people will understand the events of the Trib by studying the Signs of today. Many Israelis in God's Elect Nation Israel will convert to Christ in the Trib.

How do we get faith?
Read the Bible. Learn from an experienced Bible-teacher. Faith comes from hearing (and reading) the Bible. The Bible contains it's own proof that the Bible is true. Ask God for faith. "We have not because we ask not".

God allows us free-will concerning our salvation. But, He sometimes over-rules our free-will, without our knowledge, to accomplish His Plan. He is Perfect Intense Love; so, we can trust Him to do right. He intensely desires our salvation. (Proverbs 21;1).

I recommend the AMPLIFIED BIBLE, PELOUBET'S BIBLE DICTIONARY, HALLEY'S BIBLE HANDBOOK, NIV STUDY BIBLE.
and
DAN CORNER www.evangelicaloutreach.org
Dave Hunt www.thebereancall.org
Dean Coombs' Christian discussion forum....www.christian-forum.net

www.e-sword.net free on-line downloadable KJV bible, searchable, with Strong's numbers, definitions, and references

DAVE HUNT'S free newsletter, by email or snail-mail, monthly

POINT OF VIEW, (by Kerby Anderson) Dallas TX, free email newsletter, daily

biblegateway.org...........on-line Amplified Bible
blueletterbible.com.........on-line Strong's numbers
michnews.com..........conservative news
bloomberg.com.............financial news
cmegroup.com.........corn, farm, commodity prices, news
shadowstats.com.......true inflation rates
drudgereport.com.......conservative news
lewrockwell.com.........libertarian articles
spaceweather.com.......Signs in the Heavens
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How come I 'heard' an alien in my head saying go to the window even though I'd already been to close the curtians, only to then see a flying saucer extremely close up?!! It was so close outside the window, it was less than 6 feet away!! Then was told to be careful not to fall out the window or touch the craft for fearing of falling & electrocution. There was a huge amount of static electricity in the air.. with my hair standing on end. Pity they came at tea-time when I was being called for my 6 o clock meal. I ran like hell.. which looking back.. dunno whether that was rude.. where I missed out on a unique opportunity of a life-time.. or did running like hell save my life/stop me from being tortured or whatever.. ?! I'll never know will I.. I'm sure there are good, bad & in-different aliens out there. I'm also sure there are demons & angels out there too in some sort of 'spiritual' form.. though none of that makes me religious or want to read books like the bible. Aliens or Spirits.. or whatever/whoever they are.. are 'real' so get used to it, none of it has to do with religion, science or anything.. it just is.
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The Bible is not a history about the whole universe...it is the chronicling of God's interaction with His favorite creation--humans.

It is the set of instructions on how to bridge the gap between Creator and created on this planet.

It doesn't mean that there are not other inhabited planets, nor other intelligent beings, but just enough information to allow us to get back in to fellowship with Him.

We can't even get along with our own kind—flesh to flesh, heart to heart, spirit to spirit—how can we cope with other beings of a different nature? We will in the world to come, but we will have a new nature and His direct guidance.

For now, while it is fun to postulate about other intelligent beings, and it is good to be prepared in our minds for beings of extraordinary difference to appear, we would better spend our time mending the broken relationships between ourselves, and with Him.

Then we'll not fall away when we are subject to something beyond our understanding.
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Be careful dennis, for if the Bible proves there are no extraterrestrials then the existence of extraterrestrials would completely disprove the Bible.

If I were you, I would keep an open mind on the subject. I will give you the last word.
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Well if it's in the Bible, it must be true....right??
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Well the Martians say the same thing about you Earthers ;-)
How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all
the only thing i know is that

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Corinthians mentions terrestrials. It mentions celestials too. I'm pretty sure that has to do with both aliens and angels.

Corinthians 15:40
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

I'm not a bible flinger usually, since the whole thing's corrupted into fragments... but i think that says they exist if you're using the bible as the basis of your argument.

jus' saying.
The only thing I know is that I know nothing
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Be careful dennis, for if the Bible proves there are no extraterrestrials then the existence of extraterrestrials would completely disprove the Bible.

If I were you, I would keep an open mind on the subject. I will give you the last word.
 Quoting: The Professor 660063


thanks,

Pharoah's magicians (occultists) changed dead wooden walking sticks into living snakes,

the occultists duplicated Moses' miracles/plagues up to a point,

but God's miracles were more powerful than the occultists'

my point is:
i believe that some UFO and ET stuff is real,,,,,but they are demon-made-deceptions,
Satan is fooling people,,,,people think that ufos are from ETs and Martians,,,,,which seems to indicate that evolution is right,,,,which makes the bible wrong

it's very possible that some ET/UFO trick from satan will be a part of the ENDTIMES DECEPTION:

Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

satan pulls many tricks to draw us away from bible-belief,
ETs, UFOs, are just the tip of the ice-berg

for example, satan floods the world with millions of false religions, denominations, churches, preachers, philosophies, sports, entertainment, gods, etc.....to hide the True Religion/God .....like a needle in a haystack

it takes a little work/research to find....... which is the True God? (Jesus Christ, the God of Israel),

in matthew 24,,,,jesus warned us 4 times,,,,,DON'T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU IN THE ENDTIMES!

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