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The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher
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Avian 
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10/5/2009 7:25 AM
Report abusive post | The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher
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Click here to watch the CNBC video titled "The Fate Of The Dollar"
[link to www.cnbc.com]
Dear CIGAs,
The US dollar is NOT a safe haven. It is actually one of the most dangerous places to be.
Let’s stop and think about this scenario:
There are mechanics to all things including consideration of the US dollar as a safe haven. Right now that consideration is a knee jerk reaction of glib provincial talking heads who have not considered the process inherent in that definition.
1. US Equities are sold and risk positions closed by US entities. US investors, traders and rank speculators put their funds in short term US Treasuries as they close their positions. What is the net effect on the US dollar? Absolutely nothing at all as no dollars are being sold into the international dollar market. No dollars are being purchased in the international dollar market either. Short rates will move lower on that demand. Nothing in that equation exists to bolster the US dollar.
2. International investors including US traders (in non dollar items) and rank speculators close US and international positions, putting their funds into dollar US Treasury instruments. In that case dollar instruments would be purchased. On balance dollars would be acquired with an upward influence on the US dollar.
However things have changed in the last year:
1. The Carry Trade has targeted the US dollar as the Carry Currency of choice because of the historic low Libor rate and the recognition that, at all costs, increasing rates on the dollar will be leaned against. US rates MUST STAY LOW because of the signs indicating a failure of the US economic recovery. The Carry Trade is no joke. the Carry Trade for the currency of choice is a serious value case of Swine Flu and is very long term.
2. The IMF, the World Bank, the United Nations, China and Russia, as well as many others have all panned the dollar. What makes you think that US Treasury instruments are the only short term treasury instrument investors can buy? Thoughts like that and statements of dollar safe havens from any source, no matter who they are, reflect a PROVINCIALISM all Americans have a hard time with or an unwillingness to think the process out.
Friday was quite interesting as the dollar safe haven was not there on the employment figures.
Believing in the US dollar as a safe haven now could well be a sucker ’s wager.
Last Edited by Avian on 10/5/2009 at 1:32 PM
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-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Avian
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User ID: 265661
10/5/2009 7:26 AM
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so gold will have th opposite effect...do the math...probably up about 6.5% gives us $1,060 to $1,080 on gold end of this month
Last Edited by Avian on 10/5/2009 at 7:28 AM
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Avian
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User ID: 265661
10/5/2009 7:31 AM
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for the math challanged, this means you will make 12% by switching from dollars to gold in about 30 days...if you dont thats one hell of a tax you just paid on your entire available liquid assets
hows change working for ya?
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 786777
10/5/2009 7:36 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Meanwhile, we're being over run by communist that own privare prisons and policeforces. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 246581
10/5/2009 7:41 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
The Dollar stands for torture and occupation. Down with the dollar is good. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331741
10/5/2009 7:44 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
god avian
you keep getting worse and worse.
why are you posting that crap here.
Get a clue. CNBC is lies and propaganda,
show me a video of an analyst on that show who gets it right and I will give you $1000
serious dude...i use to love your stuff...but now you just plain annoying.
please go back and play with the kiddies. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331741
10/5/2009 7:46 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
so gold will have th opposite effect...do the math...probably up about 6.5% gives us $1,060 to $1,080 on gold end of this month Quoting: Avian
HA HA HA OMFG..
gold will be no where there, at the end of the month.
Wait and see.
You are a comedian. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 246581
10/5/2009 7:52 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Nothing funny about any of it.
The question is; will the value of gold deviate from the number that the dollars is? how much? how long? will the said deviation be long-term/forever? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 786777
10/5/2009 7:54 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
He's a SHILL, working for a private security firm. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 246581
10/5/2009 8:10 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
What is this thing that happened Friday?
[link to quotes.ino.com] |
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TRADER.
User ID: 786791
10/5/2009 8:16 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
$ BULLISH US DOLLAR OUTLOOK $
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Dollar bears, have you bothered to think what is on the opposite side of a USD fall ? (not gold)
What will happen when the DOW tanks ?
Think now please.
2009 DOW RALLY IS ENDING AND THE VIX INDEX WANTS TO RALLY.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Punk A$$ets
User ID: 763071
10/5/2009 8:26 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
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Last Edited by Punk A$$ets on 10/5/2009 at 8:28 AM |
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Avian
Got Gold?
User ID: 762328
10/5/2009 8:28 AM
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god avian
you keep getting worse and worse.
why are you posting that crap here.
Get a clue. CNBC is lies and propaganda,
show me a video of an analyst on that show who gets it right and I will give you $1000
serious dude...i use to love your stuff...but now you just plain annoying.
please go back and play with the kiddies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331741
these guys are from Hong Kong...they are not US Media shills, the Asians are gonna crush the dollar for the chinese currencies...learn my child and by the way 
Last Edited by Avian on 10/5/2009 at 8:30 AM
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Avian
Got Gold?
User ID: 762328
10/5/2009 9:07 AM
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bump for the late morning folks
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 389464
10/5/2009 9:20 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
TICK TOCK
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784065
10/5/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
what do you think we are? ? ? made of freaking money? ? ? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 783101
10/5/2009 9:25 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
But seriously... don't ya just wish the dollar would go ahead and already!
geesh! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 783101
10/5/2009 9:26 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
But seriously... don't ya just wish the dollar would go ahead and DIE already!
geesh! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783101 |
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Ferris nli
User ID: 773169
10/5/2009 9:29 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
god avian
you keep getting worse and worse.
why are you posting that crap here.
Get a clue. CNBC is lies and propaganda,
show me a video of an analyst on that show who gets it right and I will give you $1000
serious dude...i use to love your stuff...but now you just plain annoying.
please go back and play with the kiddies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331741
Nice comment idiot, and it's easy to reply rudely when you post anonymous- IDIOT |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 389464
10/5/2009 9:31 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
god avian
you keep getting worse and worse.
why are you posting that crap here.
Get a clue. CNBC is lies and propaganda,
show me a video of an analyst on that show who gets it right and I will give you $1000
serious dude...i use to love your stuff...but now you just plain annoying.
please go back and play with the kiddies.
Nice comment idiot, and it's easy to reply rudely when you post anonymous- IDIOT Quoting: Ferris nli 773169
Irony |
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Daylight Again
User ID: 462362
10/5/2009 10:17 AM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Thanks Avian. You are right on the mark. |
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Avian
Got Gold?
User ID: 762328
10/5/2009 10:31 AM
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Thanks Avian. You are right on the mark. Quoting: Daylight Again 462362
I get nothing from posting...I post to help those who are unsure or unaware... thanks...I am not on the mark, but I recognize those who are...so to speak
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Avian
Got Gold?
User ID: 762328
10/5/2009 1:15 PM
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gold 1017 as we speak...somethings happening
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Jenn++
User ID: 768626
10/5/2009 1:30 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
gold 1017 as we speak...somethings happening Quoting: Avian
I bet the shorts are buying to cover. |
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Avian
Got Gold?
User ID: 762328
10/5/2009 1:31 PM
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gold 1017 as we speak...somethings happening
I bet the shorts are buying to cover. Quoting: Jenn++ 768626
this is big buying and during the day is unusual...you could be right...they know that it will be around 1100 end of month
fight my brute now you chicken shits
[link to ack12345.mybrute.com]
-Benito Mussolini
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
–Joseph Goebbels
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." |
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Punk A$$ets
User ID: 763071
10/5/2009 2:08 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
gold 1017 as we speak...somethings happening
I bet the shorts are buying to cover.
this is big buying and during the day is unusual...you could be right...they know that it will be around 1100 end of month Quoting: Avian
Holy crap. I just got back in from a job. Man I was expecting a correction.
Damn...
Last Edited by Punk A$$ets on 10/5/2009 at 2:23 PM |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743646
10/5/2009 2:12 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
gold 1017 as we speak...somethings happening Quoting: Avian
Your opinion on the market?
Will the market continue to rise. Therefore dollar down.
Or will they crash the market AND the dollar? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 496147
10/5/2009 2:25 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Gold is a lousy investment to get into right now.
For the fool that listed only 5.5 years of gold prices why don't you check out a real chart to get a real perspective.
[link to www.kitco.com] |
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Punk A$$ets
User ID: 763071
10/5/2009 2:27 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Gold is a lousy investment to get into right now.
For the fool that listed only 5.5 years of gold prices why don't you check out a real chart to get a real perspective.
[ link to www.kitco.com]
Will do when you figure out how to post a link that works, Einstein. |
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.999
User ID: 721293
10/5/2009 2:35 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Gold is a lousy investment to get into right now.
For the fool that listed only 5.5 years of gold prices why don't you check out a real chart to get a real perspective.
[ link to www.kitco.com]
its not an investment its wealth protection.
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Punk A$$ets
User ID: 763071
10/5/2009 2:36 PM | | Re: The Fate of The Dollar 71-72 next 30 days and Gold 1080 or higher | Quote |
Gold is a lousy investment to get into right now.
For the fool that listed only 5.5 years of gold prices why don't you check out a real chart to get a real perspective.
[ link to www.kitco.com]
its not an investment its wealth protection.
Precisely the way I view it. |
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