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Would You Date a 32nd Degree Mason?

 
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is their any financial benefit to joining a lodge? i'm not expecting to be handed money but will they be able to help me out finding employment? im goin back to school in about a month and thinking about joining up at the local lodge when i get into the city of my university

Some people join for this reason. But the genuine masons are pretty good at recognizing base and profit oriented mtivation.


i want to learn their secrets that is one aspect of my motivation to join. but the reality is that i simply must find a way to start generating income or i will soon be homeless. not to mention i will soon have to begin supporting my mom.. that can't just happen on its own so i got to get a job somehow. i mean right now i have $6.74 in my checking account and i owe somebody $8000. i dont have a car or job so my future is pretty uncertain at this point. im going back to school though to try and finish my degree in philosophy but that will take a years time and even once i do that my future still looks quite uncertain. i'm just thankful my dad is going to pay for me to go back to school to finish the degree and for my apartment. but i really want to be financially independent so i can own a home one day not to mention get a car.
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I would caution you to really think about joining. There are other ways to generate income that do not require you to sell your soul to the devil.

You may become secretive, paranoid as time goes on..it depends on how well you handle certain kinds of "influences". It all may sound well and good. If you stay in the lower rungs of the organization you will probably do ok but if you venture higher up the rungs you will be asked to do things that may weigh heavy on your conscience. If you do not really have a conscience for right and wrong, then go for it..
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No, as you know it's highly plausible that his tackle has been in some dastardly places and his lips surgically attached to someone's bottom.
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No, as you know it's highly plausible that his tackle has been in some dastardly places and his lips surgically attached to someone's bottom.
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anyone who says anything bad about the masons is ignorant I am a 32nd degree mason and we are not secretive we are private we have to be that way so people don't take advantage of our generosity you know to be a 32nd degree mason you have to be a Scottish rite mason and as of right now the Scottish rite contributes a little over 5 million dollars a DAY for free healthcare for children and scholarships anD such and yeah I said DAY ! So think about whag you are saying that man you are dating is a good man and the money and effort he puts Into that club helps a lot of unfortunate children and the private aspects or secrets as u call them protect that money from con artist claiming to be masons to get money so date that man if you are right for each other maarry him and join the eastern star and one day you will look back and say how could anyone say anything bad about a fraternity that does nothing but good ? God Bless
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anyone who says anything bad about the masons is ignorant I am a 32nd degree mason and we are not secretive we are private we have to be that way so people don't take advantage of our generosity you know to be a 32nd degree mason you have to be a Scottish rite mason and as of right now the Scottish rite contributes a little over 5 million dollars a DAY for free healthcare for children and scholarships anD such and yeah I said DAY ! So think about whag you are saying that man you are dating is a good man and the money and effort he puts Into that club helps a lot of unfortunate children and the private aspects or secrets as u call them protect that money from con artist claiming to be masons to get money so date that man if you are right for each other maarry him and join the eastern star and one day you will look back and say how could anyone say anything bad about a fraternity that does nothing but good ? God Bless
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Many secret societies have been hijacked from their original purpose.

Masons like pyramids. Hierarchy. Power.
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anyone who says anything bad about the masons is ignorant I am a 32nd degree mason and we are not secretive we are private we have to be that way so people don't take advantage of our generosity you know to be a 32nd degree mason you have to be a Scottish rite mason and as of right now the Scottish rite contributes a little over 5 million dollars a DAY for free healthcare for children and scholarships anD such and yeah I said DAY ! So think about whag you are saying that man you are dating is a good man and the money and effort he puts Into that club helps a lot of unfortunate children and the private aspects or secrets as u call them protect that money from con artist claiming to be masons to get money so date that man if you are right for each other maarry him and join the eastern star and one day you will look back and say how could anyone say anything bad about a fraternity that does nothing but good ? God Bless
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Why won't the masons in the U.S. government use the military budget to do something useful for once.

Now THAT would be badass.

Until the day it happens, I'll continue to say that masons are tools.
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To become a Shriner you need to be a 32nd degree mason, lots of Shriners out there

most masons enjoy the free dinners and talk, doing good works like the shriners hospitals and the fundign for dyslexia, ect.

some read way to much into it, but maybe I am missing something.
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No, I would not date one. I can't even talk to one without wanting to bust out laughing at them about the ridiculous rituals they perform.

Heck, I tried dating a newly retired CIA agent once...lol, that didn't go over well.

I prefer to cultivate relationships with men, people in general for that matter, who I can be on the same page with emotionally and intellectually.
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My dad was a freemason. My mother never liked it. She said it was my dad's and uncle's 'religion' and she didn't think it was Christian. My aunt was an Eastern Star which is a female mason and she was Baptist. There are also organizations for kids (Job's Daughters and DeMolay.) I always thought being a mason was harmless-just a men's club of guys who stick together and do business with each other, fix tickets for each other, that sort of thing. Now I'm not so sure from things I've read.
They also do charity work. The Shriners are a part of the masons and they have free hospitals for children. I know this guy who became a Shriner after his baby got free surgery from the Shriners that he couldn't afford.
A lot of masons don't seem to know all the secrets the higher up guys know. I didn't find out until later some of the rituals they do, which sound pagan to me. I don't know why someone would join an organization where they don't tell you what their secrets are until you have joined and sworn not to tell.
I always got the impression they are anti-Catholic. DeMolay (the name of the masonic organization for boys) is the name of a Templar Knight who was boiled in oil when the Pope decided to break up the Templar Knights for being heretics and doing evil things (still, boiled in oil?-but that was in the Dark Ages, still...)
On the other hand, maybe they were into doing evil(?)
So if they named their boy's organization after a man who the Pope had tortured for being a heretic, then it's probably safe to say they are anti-Catholic. I know Catholics aren't allowed to join, but then they have the Knights of Columbus, their own organization. Anyway, I think it's an anti-Catholic organization and they also do pagan rituals and believe that Lucifer (the fallen angel before he became the devil) is a light bearer. Whatever that means. Sounds creepy to me.
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you are on the right track let me clear it up for you i'm a mason. Masons and The catholic church have been at it longer then most country's have been around. The templars were not bad look into they were killed because the king could not pay his debt to them so he got rid of the people he owed and the pope jumped on bored because the templars were so loved by the people he though it took away from there love for the church. We do tons of charity work thats what we are here for to help are fellow man. to be a shrinner you have to be at the top lol so they do know whats going on within. The thought that there is a rank structure is wrong you can be a 3rd degree mason and be in charge of a lodge of 32nd degree mason the # is just how many degrees you have taken which are just moral values like helping your fellow man or learning tolerance. It is open to all religions but in the us is almost all Christians. the rituals do seem weird I was very iffy at first until I did them once you understand them and hear them they make sense. as far as the secrets of course we cant tell you before you join or else they would not be secret lol. the same way the gov makes you sign papers before they let you know any national secret. But every one who comes in can walk away at any time we just dont want them telling every one our secrets.and last but not least the great Lucifer thing Pike wrote that and he was a very far out there mason. but he is right it is just interpreted wrong he is a fallen angel or a cast down angel depending on what bible you read and like every cultures evil guy he wields fire A.K.A. light I have never meet or heard of any real mason worshiping the devil I know they would not be welcome into any lodge in the us. Idol1
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I dated this man a few times.
Then last night he shared with me that he was a 32nd degree Mason.
It kind of freaked me out.
He did confirm that there are secrete hand signals they use in court to let the Judge know they are Masons

Your last statement is a total lie. Beside any Mason that wanted someone to know they where would wear som big ole ring or a lapel pin.

You are mistaken. Special hand signals, a special walk, a special hand shake, their verbiage, their masonic ring, etc. are all ways in which they communicate to each other that they are masons.

And, the higher the degree they are, the more convoluted some of the signals become. It gives them a gauge to measure the depth of occultic illumination of the other fellow traveler they are communicating with.
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great answer could not have said it better my self
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My dad was a freemason. My mother never liked it. She said it was my dad's and uncle's 'religion' and she didn't think it was Christian. My aunt was an Eastern Star which is a female mason and she was Baptist. There are also organizations for kids (Job's Daughters and DeMolay.) I always thought being a mason was harmless-just a men's club of guys who stick together and do business with each other, fix tickets for each other, that sort of thing. Now I'm not so sure from things I've read.
They also do charity work. The Shriners are a part of the masons and they have free hospitals for children. I know this guy who became a Shriner after his baby got free surgery from the Shriners that he couldn't afford.
A lot of masons don't seem to know all the secrets the higher up guys know. I didn't find out until later some of the rituals they do, which sound pagan to me. I don't know why someone would join an organization where they don't tell you what their secrets are until you have joined and sworn not to tell.
I always got the impression they are anti-Catholic. DeMolay (the name of the masonic organization for boys) is the name of a Templar Knight who was boiled in oil when the Pope decided to break up the Templar Knights for being heretics and doing evil things (still, boiled in oil?-but that was in the Dark Ages, still...)
On the other hand, maybe they were into doing evil(?)
So if they named their boy's organization after a man who the Pope had tortured for being a heretic, then it's probably safe to say they are anti-Catholic. I know Catholics aren't allowed to join, but then they have the Knights of Columbus, their own organization. Anyway, I think it's an anti-Catholic organization and they also do pagan rituals and believe that Lucifer (the fallen angel before he became the devil) is a light bearer. Whatever that means. Sounds creepy to me.

Wow. My family history is a lot like yours. My father is a mason (he even wears the ring with the G on it)and my (great) aunt was an Eastern star. My father was always trying to get me to joint Eastern star but I never wanted to because,quite frankly, the whole thing creeped me out, too.

I did a lot of research on it when I was young because my father was always so secretive and weird about things when I asked him any questions about this organization. I do not talk to him about it today because, real frankly, it frightens me.

I do not think my father got really high up in it but he wears the Masonic ring all the time.
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if he wears the ring then he is as high as you can go a master mason.
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I dated this man a few times.
Then last night he shared with me that he was a 32nd degree Mason.
It kind of freaked me out.
He did confirm that there are secrete hand signals they use in court to let the Judge know they are Masons

Your last statement is a total lie. Beside any Mason that wanted someone to know they where would wear som big ole ring or a lapel pin.

You are mistaken. Special hand signals, a special walk, a special hand shake, their verbiage, their masonic ring, etc. are all ways in which they communicate to each other that they are masons.

And, the higher the degree they are, the more convoluted some of the signals become. It gives them a gauge to measure the depth of occultic illumination of the other fellow traveler they are communicating with.

If a man wears the Masonic ring all the time, does that mean they are higher up than usual? or is there no significance to this than to say "hey, here I am".???
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its so we can identify each other so when we may see a fellow brother in passing we now they are a brother.
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I know Catholics aren't allowed to join,


didn't know that....

this info is actually a good info to me... they have being invite me several times in the last 2 years... I may decide now that I know they are anti catholics
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no no dont think that my brother mason is a catholic we have no problem with the catholics and most catholics dont mind us its the church who has a problem with us because we do not give in to all there demands.
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I dated this man a few times.
Then last night he shared with me that he was a 32nd degree Mason.
It kind of freaked me out.
He did confirm that there are secrete hand signals they use in court to let the Judge know they are Masons

NO
I would never date anyone who is a member of a secret society.

My father was a mason all his adult life. What I remember of living with this is that he would often act secretive and weird about things. As a kid, this made me feel very uncommfortable. I would never live with a man today who is so secretive. I like nice, open people; "what you see is what you get; kind of people who are open and honest about life.
From my youth, this kind of secrecy breeds inbalance in ones life and would never consider putting/adding it to my adult life.
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I'm very sorry you feel that way I'm sure that was not your dad intentions. Its kind of like I'm in the Army and I can not talk to my wife about certain parts of my job, just like I cant talk to her about certain parts of masonry.
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I dated this man a few times.
Then last night he shared with me that he was a 32nd degree Mason.
It kind of freaked me out.
He did confirm that there are secrete hand signals they use in court to let the Judge know they are Masons

Your last statement is a total lie. Beside any Mason that wanted someone to know they where would wear som big ole ring or a lapel pin.
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I disagree, respectfully.
My personal experience is that the courts are rigged in the US in favor of Masons. I don't know if this is the exception or the rule, but I know that it is not a total lie.
You can not threaten one with death if they are not afraid to die.
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I know Catholics aren't allowed to join,


didn't know that....

this info is actually a good info to me... they have being invite me several times in the last 2 years... I may decide now that I know they are anti catholics

They are not anti-catholic. It is the other way round. Catholics are anti-masonry. We have catholics in my lodge.


The knights work for "christiandom" in any way possible, which they believe is the Catholic Holy Roman Empire.

That is the wicked NWO subverting constitutions fomenting Marxist revolution!

They bring in often non Catholics. However, in South America, Mexico and Europe they take in Atheist, who are often former Catholics.

Catholic or Catholic Knight, the Masonic secret.
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WHAT??????/ wtf
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blue lodge masons or wannabe masons stfu you dont know shit,
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is their any financial benefit to joining a lodge? i'm not expecting to be handed money but will they be able to help me out finding employment? im goin back to school in about a month and thinking about joining up at the local lodge when i get into the city of my university

Some people join for this reason. But the genuine masons are pretty good at recognizing base and profit oriented mtivation.


i want to learn their secrets that is one aspect of my motivation to join. but the reality is that i simply must find a way to start generating income or i will soon be homeless. not to mention i will soon have to begin supporting my mom.. that can't just happen on its own so i got to get a job somehow. i mean right now i have $6.74 in my checking account and i owe somebody $8000. i dont have a car or job so my future is pretty uncertain at this point. im going back to school though to try and finish my degree in philosophy but that will take a years time and even once i do that my future still looks quite uncertain. i'm just thankful my dad is going to pay for me to go back to school to finish the degree and for my apartment. but i really want to be financially independent so i can own a home one day not to mention get a car.
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Well it sounds like you are on the right path, but look inside your self would you help some one in your shoe if you could would you spend your free time trying to improve humanity through charity? if so then seek out your local lodge talk with a mason and tell them you want to join. But yes like any organization you will be networked with people and im sure one of them can help you get a job but if you said no to any of the question you are probably trying to join for the wrong reasons and will be turned away. good luck
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I would only date a 33rd Degree Mason, because they can shapeshift and have the power of flight...
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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my uncle is a 33 degree mason and he is the nicest guy you will ever meet...so why not?
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so mote it be
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is their any financial benefit to joining a lodge? i'm not expecting to be handed money but will they be able to help me out finding employment? im goin back to school in about a month and thinking about joining up at the local lodge when i get into the city of my university

Some people join for this reason. But the genuine masons are pretty good at recognizing base and profit oriented mtivation.


i want to learn their secrets that is one aspect of my motivation to join. but the reality is that i simply must find a way to start generating income or i will soon be homeless. not to mention i will soon have to begin supporting my mom.. that can't just happen on its own so i got to get a job somehow. i mean right now i have $6.74 in my checking account and i owe somebody $8000. i dont have a car or job so my future is pretty uncertain at this point. im going back to school though to try and finish my degree in philosophy but that will take a years time and even once i do that my future still looks quite uncertain. i'm just thankful my dad is going to pay for me to go back to school to finish the degree and for my apartment. but i really want to be financially independent so i can own a home one day not to mention get a car.

I would caution you to really think about joining. There are other ways to generate income that do not require you to sell your soul to the devil.

You may become secretive, paranoid as time goes on..it depends on how well you handle certain kinds of "influences". It all may sound well and good. If you stay in the lower rungs of the organization you will probably do ok but if you venture higher up the rungs you will be asked to do things that may weigh heavy on your conscience. If you do not really have a conscience for right and wrong, then go for it..
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HAHAHAHAHA u nut ya you might be asked to dress as a clown and make kids smile or read to kids in school or help organize charity's or you may even be asked to help out at one of our many free hospitals or schools for the learning impaired.
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I know Catholics aren't allowed to join,


didn't know that....

this info is actually a good info to me... they have being invite me several times in the last 2 years... I may decide now that I know they are anti catholics

They are not anti-catholic. It is the other way round. Catholics are anti-masonry. We have catholics in my lodge.


The knights work for "christiandom" in any way possible, which they believe is the Catholic Holy Roman Empire.

That is the wicked NWO subverting constitutions fomenting Marxist revolution!

They bring in often non Catholics. However, in South America, Mexico and Europe they take in Atheist, who are often former Catholics.

Catholic or Catholic Knight, the Masonic secret.
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The belief in a supreme being is required to become a mason.

Atheists by definition don't believe in a supreme being hence they can't be masons.
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anyone who says anything bad about the masons is ignorant I am a 32nd degree mason and we are not secretive we are private we have to be that way so people don't take advantage of our generosity you know to be a 32nd degree mason you have to be a Scottish rite mason and as of right now the Scottish rite contributes a little over 5 million dollars a DAY for free healthcare for children and scholarships anD such and yeah I said DAY ! So think about whag you are saying that man you are dating is a good man and the money and effort he puts Into that club helps a lot of unfortunate children and the private aspects or secrets as u call them protect that money from con artist claiming to be masons to get money so date that man if you are right for each other maarry him and join the eastern star and one day you will look back and say how could anyone say anything bad about a fraternity that does nothing but good ? God Bless
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So mote it be

No matter how much good we do they will always come up with some thing. May the east light sign upon you brother.
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low level masons aka blue lodge masons are brainwashed sheeple
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I think there is a disconnect between secrecy and privacy. They are NOT the same.

I was a frat guy in college and after all the videos, and comments I've heard about freemasonry, it sounds like the same sort of thing. We also were charged with being secretive, but honestly... its not secretive so much as it is that we simply don't want everyone else intruding on something we took pride in, as it was our common bond.

The rituals and symbols are interesting and they hold value, but nothing out of the ordinary. I know our principals were centered on building better men; holding things important in life - respect for other men, family values, pride in your country, and some form of religion.

Heck, with the long history of freemasonry, I'm guessing there is a sense of pride in seeing certain symbols around our nation.

From what I've heard, Freemasons are a dying breed and are bleeding members faster than they can recruit them. My girlfriend and I just took a tour of the Masonic temple in our hometown here in Detroit and is that building ever gorgeous! I guess the first brick was laid with the same trowel that George Washington used to set the first stone at the white house. I don't care how you swing it, that's some interesting history, and I'd be proud to have something tied to our Nation's founders!

I guess in closing... I'd rather see my peers (18-30 yr olds) get involved in freemasonry than barhopping, driving drunk, doing drugs, getting fat playing video games, etc. With that said, I'd rather see my peers going fishing/hunting, or even camping with Dad for some quality bonding rather than any of the above.

just my $.02 Idol1
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anyone who says anything bad about the masons is ignorant I am a 32nd degree mason and we are not secretive we are private we have to be that way so people don't take advantage of our generosity you know to be a 32nd degree mason you have to be a Scottish rite mason and as of right now the Scottish rite contributes a little over 5 million dollars a DAY for free healthcare for children and scholarships anD such and yeah I said DAY ! So think about whag you are saying that man you are dating is a good man and the money and effort he puts Into that club helps a lot of unfortunate children and the private aspects or secrets as u call them protect that money from con artist claiming to be masons to get money so date that man if you are right for each other maarry him and join the eastern star and one day you will look back and say how could anyone say anything bad about a fraternity that does nothing but good ? God Bless


Many secret societies have been hijacked from their original purpose.

Masons like pyramids. Hierarchy. Power.
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pyramids. Hierarchy. Power??? we do do we oh thanks for telling me I never know I liked pyramids thanks buddy
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anyone who says anything bad about the masons is ignorant I am a 32nd degree mason and we are not secretive we are private we have to be that way so people don't take advantage of our generosity you know to be a 32nd degree mason you have to be a Scottish rite mason and as of right now the Scottish rite contributes a little over 5 million dollars a DAY for free healthcare for children and scholarships anD such and yeah I said DAY ! So think about whag you are saying that man you are dating is a good man and the money and effort he puts Into that club helps a lot of unfortunate children and the private aspects or secrets as u call them protect that money from con artist claiming to be masons to get money so date that man if you are right for each other maarry him and join the eastern star and one day you will look back and say how could anyone say anything bad about a fraternity that does nothing but good ? God Bless


Why won't the masons in the U.S. government use the military budget to do something useful for once.

Now THAT would be badass.

Until the day it happens, I'll continue to say that masons are tools.
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because we dont have power over any thing but our selfs and we help people not control them
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those who are after some kind of illusive power and money are mosttly low rank masons 1-4 degree, most masons stays there.
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Re: Would You Date a 32nd Degree Mason?
no.
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Re: Would You Date a 32nd Degree Mason?
To become a Shriner you need to be a 32nd degree mason, lots of Shriners out there

most masons enjoy the free dinners and talk, doing good works like the shriners hospitals and the fundign for dyslexia, ect.

some read way to much into it, but maybe I am missing something.
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no :) your not missing anything just some people wake up with a misquote bite and swear the were abducted by aliens and were implanted with stuff, people like to think there is some unexplained and fill in the blanks and sense the masons dont tell much about our group people come up with all kinds of grand tales.

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