Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days

Yes.

All that work simply means that now you and he and I do not agree. Again, who cares???? I could copy and paste just as many people that say he is wrong: Example....

From "wrestedScriptures.com:

Satan, Devil and Demons

Contradictions
& Inaccuracies
Genesis 6:2
". . . the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

Problem:
The "sons of God" are claimed by J.W.'s and others to have been angels who had sinned and spread evil by marrying the daughters of men. A J.W. publication puts it this way:

"To marry the daughters of men, those heavenly sons of God {angels} materialized human bodies, clothing themselves with fleshly bodies like those of men on earth . . . When the Flood came, those disobedient sons of God could not get into Noah's ark, and so, to escape from the floodwaters, they dematerialized, dissolved their assumed human bodies, and returned to the spirit realm. They were not admitted back to the heavenly family of God's perfect, sinless sons.

They were degraded to a very low state that the Bible calls 'Tartarus' . . . {J.W.'s teach they became the spirits in prison, 1 Peter 3:19, 20.} In view of this form of imprisonment those disobedient spirit 'sons of the true God' cannot materialize anymore and live like husbands with women. But they still keep as close as they can to mankind, especially to women, whom they prevail upon to serve as spirit mediums, fortune-tellers, clairvoyants, and so forth."1

Solution:
All existence in Scripture is bodily existence. Nothing is known in Scripture of "materializing" and "dematerializing" "assumed" bodies. J.W.s should be pressed hard for evidence to justify such a doctrine.

Luke 20:35, 36 is conclusive - angels do not marry: "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection."

"Sons of God" can refer to angels as it may in Job 38:7, but the expression is also used of men. (See Deut. 14:1, R.S.V.; Hosea 1:10; Luke 3:38; John 1:12; 1 John 3:1). In Genesis 6:2 the "sons of God" were the righteous line of Seth (Genesis 4:26)2 intermarrying with evil Cainites.

It is sometimes contended that only angel-human offspring could produce "nephilim" (mighty ones or giants, cf. Gen. 6:4). But the sons of Anak (Num. 13:33) were also giants, ("nephilim") and these were certainly not angel-human offspring, as they existed long after the flood.

Divine angels can not sin. They are "ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who will be heirs of salvation". (Heb. 1:14). These angels are not rebels, but do Yahweh's commandments, "hearkening unto the voice of his word . . . ministers of his, that do his pleasure." (Psa. 103:20, 21).

The "spirits in prison" passage in 1 Peter 3:19, 20 is considered elsewhere on this site.

So, Littlestar. you ask a lot of questions and belittle a lot of people and churches and pastors. Let me ask you a question. Are you a Jehovah's Witness member?

I know exactly what Matt.22:30 says. It is common sense, plain and clear and easy to understand. I read it understand it. It just can not be ignored.

But, If you choose to believe that demons (spirital) some how had sex with humans, fine. I DO NOT CARE.

Move on to something else!!!

I declared up front about me personally loathing cutting and pasting. I said I hated it. But I also declared that I was using that sight as a quick way to cut my time short in proving my stance. I do have a personal life and I have my own biz to take care while I am chatting with you so forgive me for cutting and pasting. It seems as I have pointed out many times before, and long before I have met you here on glp that most pastors do not want to be taught anything. And God forbid the one who trys to teach them because all hell will break loose on the one trying to teach them something that goes beyond their traditions.
Major, you can take that statement any way you wish. I hope it is a way for you to understand that the main reason that the following away from God in the end times comes by the way of mens "pride" and "vanities". (This backs up my reason for making my statement, don't take it personally..)(I don't know you, as you said before..lol)
See, you can try and explain away many things with your teachings. But one thing I teach you cannot explain away, because Christ teaches us all in Mark 13:11 that the Holy Spirit is going to fall on some when Satan is here and they shall reveal Satan to the whole world at that time. And as I said before many times before I have ever met you, that Romans 11:4 ( 1 Kings 19:18 second witness scripture)backs up Christ in the amount that have been chosen to have the Holy Spirit speak through them in the hour of temptation. (Below defines Baal symbolically)
Finally, the word “Arba” is also necessary for a complete study of our subject. “Arba” is a Hebrew word brought into the English Bible untranslated. This word carries a dual meaning. It means both “four” and “strength of Baal.” Four is the Bible number associated with “the flesh, the natural man, or humanity.” Baal is the dumb idol which personifies Satan himself. In essence, “Arba” and those who descended from him were used by Satan after the flood to infiltrate the human race, and attempt to establish Satanic control over humanity. The word “Arba” occurs 3 times in the Old Testament. See Genesis 35:27, Joshua 14:15 [in Italics], 15:13, and 21:11.

Now as you understand that when you read Romans 11:4 you will see the deeper meaning of the symbolics of Baal which is to say, Satan.
It seems to me Major that I am not the only one seeing some errors on what you are presenting. (Not trying to offend you)because there have been a couple of people helping me out and I have not idea who they are and they understand what I am poorly trying to share and they must agree with me on what I am saying. (But, and say again, But that is not important that they do). Just pointing that out like you did with your secretary laughing at me... lol
Take at easy Major.. I have a huge sense of humor, and I am trying to keep things in a lighter mode so I don't offend you and have you go stomping off upset... lol
Stop and think why I gave personal testimony about my home church pastor and what he did to me in that church when I attended it. Think about that real hard! (NOT attacking your character at all so if you come back and say I am, then that tells me quite a bit about you as a pastor.)
Cain is the seed line from Satan, and you made a mistake in saying Cainites. Not correct way of saying the decedents of Cain. It is said like this;;;; KENITES! Maybe I should not of presented it that way, but I will let it stand...(I just keep pointing out todays rulers of the world is why I say KENITES)
Okay, now that I have done that little correction, I can count on getting a whupping... Just kidding, and laughing at my end, and forgive my joking around with ya a bit... I am still trying to keep things a bit easy... lol
WE love ya Major... that is the bottom line..


NOPE. No mistake by ME.

NOPE. No mistake by ME. LOL that is the best you can do.. lol
Okay.. so I know what you will present next for my statement about you making the mistake on cainites,,
You will most likely try and grab the name Cainan.. to justify the error of Cainites.. as the proper way to say Kenites.. lol
So, you last to postings were quite obvious as to what you are trying to do with anything I have posted. I notice you have not jumped on anyone else who has agreed with what I have posted.
Again, you want to play "king of the mound" like little kids do, and that is your method of operation when you chat with folks. Power playing is what most pastors do. Can't have a real conversation because know matter what, everyone else are wrong in their eyes..
Thanks for the chat! I still love in the Lord, and I know that what I have presented can be validated by anyone who takes the time to do so and have that kind of hungry.
I bet if I was one of your congregation members I would be thrown out the door by now..
Again, you want to land on top, and whupping is what you are about, and popping bubbles as you have said to us all... lol
Have a nice day..



As I stated. I will not banter with you.I will respond to any Bible verse you post. Seeing none, there is no responce.

God bless.

I just had to do this one more time to show how you are sooooo selective in a conversation. You stated" I will not banter with you, I will respond to any bible verse you post."
lol
What do you think this was? I posted this before you posted your response.. lol
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My post before you even responded your side stepping remarks..
(Note: have a nice night) See below my words.. Cuz this is what I posted before you "banter" statement... lol
Got yo figured out really good too.. Same method used on me personally 100's of times by pastors.. It is after all how they work.. No body higher than they in the Word. They are the authority, and that that... lol

You are very cleaver but you know, anyone with understanding of what I was doing with the scripture below know was not adding, I was showing who God was talking too. Nothing more nothing less. See below..
My Words:

"And I (God) will put enmity between thee (Satan, serpent, tree of knowledge of good and evil)",and the woman, and between thy seed (Kenites) and her Seed (My King James has the S in caps for a reason, showing seed line from which Christ will come through by the way of Mary); It (Jesus) shall bruise they head, and thou shalt bruise His(H in caps showing it to be Christ hanging on the cross)heel."
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Your Words:

As we can all see, several words have been ADDED to the original.
Yes, I understand the use of parinthesis, but Satan, serpant, and tree of knowledge are not listed and are not in the origianl nor the KJV neither is there an inference of them. The "enmity as stated in the KJV is between the Woman and her SEED and Satans seed.
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I wonder how many here are wise enough to see that in my brackets I am telling you that it is Satan seed and that God is talking to Satan.
Then you come along and your last sentence says this" The "enmity as stated in the KJV is between the Woman and her SEED and Satans seed."

I think that eveyone can see that I choose to fill in the blanks as it was written, and you then just say the same thing only in a different manor..
I notice you did not comment on "Kenites" and the who scenario of what I presented about your failure of Kenan. I think you are being very selective about what you want to pick and choose as to what you want to present..
What I see from you as I said before as to what you stated, you want some whupping.
Now as far as me saying tree of knowledge of good and evil, serpent being whom God was talking too, I think everyone can see that the serpent was being used in the KJV version of what was happening in the book of Gen. 3:13 and that is who God is talking to in verse 15.
Rev. 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that 'OLD SERPENT", called the "DEVIL" AND "SATAN", which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
There are most of Satan's titles all in one verse. He names in the bible.
He has some others too, like "morning star", tree of knowledge of good and evil"..
He is always wanting to be like Jesus and just as Christ is called "tree of life", which I know you understand to be Christ and if you don't then there is no need to even chat with you. Because this has been shown many times long before you and I was born.
All I was doing was showing in verse 15 of Gen. chaoter 3 that it was God talking to Satan, that serpent and I used brackets to show the players of the verse...
Even the word "IT" is Christ and you cleverly left that out of your rebuttal and then accused me of adding to the Word. Again, everyone and myself are seeing your method of how pastors work. Kind of nice proving my point on what I have been saying for years about pastors.
Everyone is smart enough to understand what I was doing with my brackets, and they are seeing that is all you had, so you had to come back with what I did to show who was talking and about who, Satan, Eve, and Christ..
Too bad too!
Again, very selective about what you choose to share and point out about what I have said.
Your own words convict you, and you can't see it.
Your not going to get me drawn into a slam dunking contest again. But you can do it all you want. I stayed with the object and subject of our conversation and you have to jump all over the place to even keep up..
I already know what your trying to do, and guess what, you are not going to get what you want from me. I bow down only to the Lord and everyone can see that is what you want not only from me, but from anyone that chats with you. Because after all, you are the higher authority because you have that title of "pastor"..


The only Bible verse listed in your post that I have not replied to is Re. 12:9....

"And the great dragon was cast out, that 'OLD SERPENT", called the "DEVIL" AND "SATAN", which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

I agree with the names. And Yes there are many many more names he is called.

Rev. 12:9 actually begins in verse 7 and is the vision of war in heaven and it anticipates Satans exclusion from heaven and his restriction to the earth during the last 3 1/2 years of the Trib. Peroid. Michael is the archangel and leader of Gods army of angels. Satan is the chief of the fallen angels.

Well, I guess I did post a verse, huh? You see only what you want to see.
Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans...
Either they can or they can't.(You can't have it both ways on your stance. It does not make sense to me about your stance that fallen angels cannot make a woman pregnant.)

Also, my statement stands on Rev. 11:13 that the 7000 are bad angels. You can call them men all day long, does not matter to me.
The great earth quake mentioned in that chapter is when Christ puts His foot down on Mt. Olives. He is the one that will take out Satan also as what Gen. 3:15 states.
You use remnant for Romans 11:4 and 1Kings 19 and that is fine by me. I understand it clearly and it means much more than what you think.
My next posting will reflect why I have stayed with you on the bible and why I have pressed the issue's.

The reason I pressed the bible issue's with you is because of what I am about to share.
There are many who are pastors that are Freemasons which work for the Kenites. The pastors that are Freemasons will go to any length to keep people from knowing what happened in the Garden of Eden with Eth HaAdam, Eve, and Satan. They also are elders in many churches. And those churches hire pastors that they can control what they teach. They do not want anyone to know about the fallen angels. It would ruin the end time deception of Satan coming with his fallen angels. Bible clearly states that Satan will have fallen angels with him. (12:9)
I know many pastors teach that Rev. 12:9 has already happened. Fine, okay by me if they think that, but see John is the one that received the revelation long after Satan came down and ran to and fro from earth back to heaven.
Also, many pastors error thinking that the churches are raptured in 1:11 and the order is by God is "to send" to the churches. Send means they are not there, and John is the messenger.
(Yea, I know your stance on that, and it does not mean a thing to me.)(Traditions of men is all that means to me.)
So we have today Freemasons that keep the truth from being told because of the control of Kenites.
I want to point out that this week on agent provocateur on the net, he has someone come forward with a video of them taping a pastor who was a Freemason confessing that he is one and at the same time telling the person taping the conversation that he is saved by Jesus. (Proves to anyone that something might be correct about my statement of Freemasons in churches.)
They are thick and heavy in the churches, all guarding there pappa's agenda, that is Satan.

The reason I pressed the bible issue's with you is because of what I am about to share.
There are many who are pastors that are Freemasons which work for the Kenites. The pastors that are Freemasons will go to any length to keep people from knowing what happened in the Garden of Eden with Eth HaAdam, Eve, and Satan. They also are elders in many churches. And those churches hire pastors that they can control what they teach. They do not want anyone to know about the fallen angels. It would ruin the end time deception of Satan coming with his fallen angels. Bible clearly states that Satan will have fallen angels with him. (12:9)
I know many pastors teach that Rev. 12:9 has already happened. Fine, okay by me if they think that, but see John is the one that received the revelation long after Satan came down and ran to and fro from earth back to heaven.
Also, many pastors error thinking that the churches are raptured in 1:11 and the order is by God is "to send" to the churches. Send means they are not there, and John is the messenger.
(Yea, I know your stance on that, and it does not mean a thing to me.)(Traditions of men is all that means to me.)
So we have today Freemasons that keep the truth from being told because of the control of Kenites.
I want to point out that this week on agent provocateur on the net, he has someone come forward with a video of them taping a pastor who was a Freemason confessing that he is one and at the same time telling the person taping the conversation that he is saved by Jesus. (Proves to anyone that something might be correct about my statement of Freemasons in churches.)
They are thick and heavy in the churches, all guarding there pappa's agenda, that is Satan.


You are absolulely correct my friend on the Masons.

I have personally taught many classes at other churches on the evil of Freemasonary. I have become somewaht of an authority on the subject.

I would venture to say that fully 25% of all denominational pastors are Masons or were at one time a Mason. You are preaching to the choir.

I have already responded to Rev. 12:9 and stated that is is yet in the future.(Are you reading what I post?)12:7-9 are in the last 3 1?2 year of the Tribulation.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

God says in Isaiah 66:4 "I will chose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer: when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before Mine eyes, and chose that in which I delight not."
That verse is not just talking about 'sins'. Think about it.
Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major.
So, If God wants us to come to Him, and the Lord died for our sins, what is God talking about that He has to cover the eyes of those that slumber?
To many, that would seem unfair that God would keep some in spiritual slumber.
I know why.. Because when those that are to be in spiritual slumber and they hear the real truth and bow down to Satan after finding that truth; they are done like all the others that will bow down to Satan when he comes, even tho they may be pastors, and or Christians professing the Lord has saved them.
Many Christians today are in a spiritual slumber, and as you said pastor in one of your postings "I don't know what kind of pastor Baptist you are. Yea, some play with snakes and are ignorant, just like some are ignorant of what the fallen angels had done in the past.
The book of Enoch tells us that Enoch was taken by God and was with God for over 300 years. Then God had the angels that taught Enoch and then God sent Enoch back to tell those fallen angels that God was not pleased and for "seducing woman" and side stepping His plan. God has reserved them into chains of darkness unto this day they are held according to what I have learned.
Jude, the half brother of Christ says that in Jude 6. So when you say, "well that is not the bible and I don't accept it, it will be fine by me."
I guess Christ and Jude must of had that conversation and or the book of Enoch was in their hands at one point for Jude to make that statement.
Many books have been written about the fallen angels. ( Yea, I know it is not the bible, but the manuscripts make it quite clear..)
So, I have come to the conclusion that either you are a Freemason, or you are in a spiritual slumber because you will not have the strength to stand against Satan and his 7000 man army of angels when they arrive. (YOu can be ticked off by that statement all you want, it will not bother me. You can say I am attacking you and your character, fine, look at it that way..) (Okay, we already know you don't accept the 7000 count of them, but Rev. 12 states they are coming with Satan, and symbolically Rev. 9 tells you their demeanor and how they will be when they arrive.
Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major.

To keep as many as people from falling into the trap of worshiping Satan when he comes and the grand deception that is in full effect today controlled by the Kenites.
Bible says, the whole world will worship Satan except those chosen, remnant as you put it, and I say 7000 of Romans 11:4. (Note: more than 7000 will know it is Satan, I am talking just about those chosen to have the Holy Spirit speaking through them in the hour of temptation as Christ taught us in Mark 13:11)
Your objective from what I see is "to pop bubbles", to stand King of the mountain child's play, and or keep people from finding out "all" the truth of what is going on.
I think also if I was you, I would take your diploma back to the Kenite school that you were taught by and ask for a refund of your money. (That statement is really stepping on your pride big time.. lol) I can just hear it now back from you... lol
(Can't wait to hear your words about the book of Enoch and I am sure it will go something like this...)
It is not Gods Word.. lol Yet God took Enoch and Enoch was a prophet and his name is in the King James bible that you use. (Oh, I am sure that does mean anything to you, because you are a college boy.)

The reason I pressed the bible issue's with you is because of what I am about to share.
There are many who are pastors that are Freemasons which work for the Kenites. The pastors that are Freemasons will go to any length to keep people from knowing what happened in the Garden of Eden with Eth HaAdam, Eve, and Satan. They also are elders in many churches. And those churches hire pastors that they can control what they teach. They do not want anyone to know about the fallen angels. It would ruin the end time deception of Satan coming with his fallen angels. Bible clearly states that Satan will have fallen angels with him. (12:9)
I know many pastors teach that Rev. 12:9 has already happened. Fine, okay by me if they think that, but see John is the one that received the revelation long after Satan came down and ran to and fro from earth back to heaven.
Also, many pastors error thinking that the churches are raptured in 1:11 and the order is by God is "to send" to the churches. Send means they are not there, and John is the messenger.
(Yea, I know your stance on that, and it does not mean a thing to me.)(Traditions of men is all that means to me.)
So we have today Freemasons that keep the truth from being told because of the control of Kenites.
I want to point out that this week on agent provocateur on the net, he has someone come forward with a video of them taping a pastor who was a Freemason confessing that he is one and at the same time telling the person taping the conversation that he is saved by Jesus. (Proves to anyone that something might be correct about my statement of Freemasons in churches.)
They are thick and heavy in the churches, all guarding there pappa's agenda, that is Satan.


You are absolulely correct my friend on the Masons.

I have personally taught many classes at other churches on the evil of Freemasonary. I have become somewaht of an authority on the subject.

I would venture to say that fully 25% of all denominational pastors are Masons or were at one time a Mason. You are preaching to the choir.

I have already responded to Rev. 12:9 and stated that is is yet in the future.(Are you reading what I post?)12:7-9 are in the last 3 1?2 year of the Tribulation.

Well Major, I have popped you bubble.. lol
I have been kidding and working you over all along all the way letting you see how Christians can battle like no end... lol IN other words, been setting you up letting you see the real world as I see it when I see brothers and sisters going at it like we have been doing.. lol
I have seen battles in churches like you would not believe. "I want the piano over here." " No, I want it over here." "Well then, I am not going to be a member of this church if I can't have my way..." Ever hear and or see that? I have..
And they do. Pay attention to the threads just here on glp alone. Fight after fight, and the saying " I am better with the Word than you are" is the common theme that we see coming out of most... lol
I wonder if Christ will come and line us up and ask us this one question: "Did you argue about my scriptures with other Christians and non-Christians"?
Answer would be yes for the best of us... lol
Jesus would say then, " Go stand in the corner and take a time out".
Actually said by a five year old kid.. lol
So I am going to go stand in the corner now... lol
Hey Major, keep the faith, and stand ready! The Lord loves you and so do I....
Maybe you can use our chat as a way to teach patience and love for one and another to your congregation.. lol

For a non-college boy, I would say I have quite of bit of studying under my belt. Does not mean a thing if I don't walk with the Lord, and if I don't love my brother and sisters of this world.
Peace brother!
Gotcha! lol

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

God says in Isaiah 66:4 "I will chose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer: when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before Mine eyes, and chose that in which I delight not."
That verse is not just talking about 'sins'. Think about it.
Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major.
So, If God wants us to come to Him, and the Lord died for our sins, what is God talking about that He has to cover the eyes of those that slumber?
To many, that would seem unfair that God would keep some in spiritual slumber.
I know why.. Because when those that are to be in spiritual slumber and they hear the real truth and bow down to Satan after finding that truth; they are done like all the others that will bow down to Satan when he comes, even tho they may be pastors, and or Christians professing the Lord has saved them.
Many Christians today are in a spiritual slumber, and as you said pastor in one of your postings "I don't know what kind of pastor Baptist you are. Yea, some play with snakes and are ignorant, just like some are ignorant of what the fallen angels had done in the past.
The book of Enoch tells us that Enoch was taken by God and was with God for over 300 years. Then God had the angels that taught Enoch and then God sent Enoch back to tell those fallen angels that God was not pleased and for "seducing woman" and side stepping His plan. God has reserved them into chains of darkness unto this day they are held according to what I have learned.
Jude, the half brother of Christ says that in Jude 6. So when you say, "well that is not the bible and I don't accept it, it will be fine by me."
I guess Christ and Jude must of had that conversation and or the book of Enoch was in their hands at one point for Jude to make that statement.
Many books have been written about the fallen angels. ( Yea, I know it is not the bible, but the manuscripts make it quite clear..)
So, I have come to the conclusion that either you are a Freemason, or you are in a spiritual slumber because you will not have the strength to stand against Satan and his 7000 man army of angels when they arrive. (YOu can be ticked off by that statement all you want, it will not bother me. You can say I am attacking you and your character, fine, look at it that way..) (Okay, we already know you don't accept the 7000 count of them, but Rev. 12 states they are coming with Satan, and symbolically Rev. 9 tells you their demeanor and how they will be when they arrive.
Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major.

To keep as many as people from falling into the trap of worshiping Satan when he comes and the grand deception that is in full effect today controlled by the Kenites.
Bible says, the whole world will worship Satan except those chosen, remnant as you put it, and I say 7000 of Romans 11:4. (Note: more than 7000 will know it is Satan, I am talking just about those chosen to have the Holy Spirit speaking through them in the hour of temptation as Christ taught us in Mark 13:11)
Your objective from what I see is "to pop bubbles", to stand King of the mountain child's play, and or keep people from finding out "all" the truth of what is going on.
I think also if I was you, I would take your diploma back to the Kenite school that you were taught by and ask for a refund of your money. (That statement is really stepping on your pride big time.. lol) I can just hear it now back from you... lol
(Can't wait to hear your words about the book of Enoch and I am sure it will go something like this...)
It is not Gods Word.. lol Yet God took Enoch and Enoch was a prophet and his name is in the King James bible that you use. (Oh, I am sure that does mean anything to you, because you are a college boy.)


I take the Ishaiah 66:4 passage to be Zions future hope.

Your quote"
"Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major."

To grasp 11:8 one must read verse #7
"What then? ISRAEL hath not obtained that which he seekth for; but the "election" hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded."

The "election" is literally, THE CHOSEN ONES. Theses are the believing Israelites like Paul (verse 1) who have believed and are being saved today.

If I did not believe in John 3:16 then I would be a "Hyper-Calvinist" wouldnt I. That is the 5th step of TULIP. I told you a long time ago that I do not believe that.


Your quote:

"The book of Enoch tells us that Enoch was taken by God and was with God for over 300 years. Then God had the angels that taught Enoch and then God sent Enoch back to tell those fallen angels that God was not pleased and for "seducing woman" and side stepping His plan. God has reserved them into chains of darkness unto this day they are held according to what I have learned'

Completly in error!!
"Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters.

No where is there a statement of Enoch doing what you said.



Your quote
" Your objective from what I see is "to pop bubbles", to stand King of the mountain child's play, and or keep people from finding out "all" the truth of what is going on".

You have an infeariority complex don't you. Lesten Star, you are a good man, you mean well and have worked hard to learn what you know. I am proud of you. I have already told you that I am not going to banter back and forth with you. Think what you want. Assume all you want. I DO NOT CARE.

Your quote
"I think also if I was you, I would take your diploma back to the Kenite school that you were taught by and ask for a refund of your money. (That statement is really stepping on your pride big time.. lol) I can just hear it now back from you... lol

You are not me. And do you know the irony of that statement? No of course not. I will tell you. I am sitting in my home, in my office with my fathers WW2 flag looking at me. He was totalled disabled in that war. I look next to it and there are my decorations etc. from the Vietnam war. I said that to say this....we did that so that people like you could say exactly what you just said. My father, totalled disabled, gave every penny he could to see me and his children through school so that in our life we could make a difference. Because of that kind of love and commitment, he was able to look all of his children in the eye from his death bed and tell us...."I love you and I am so very proud of you".

Now, let me make sure you understand something Bubba.....
There is not enough money in the world to buy my nor my brothers/sisters college diplomas back. Just thank God you are talking with me and not my sister. She reads what you wrote and I promise you, she will come through this computer for you. She is scary when it comes to her mom and dad. ME, I forgive because I understand you.

And remember, you did apologize and I know you meant it. Right??? I know you would not lie about that!

As for you purpose here. I do not know.


Let me ask you this.

How many lost souls have you won to Christ?
Isn't that what we are to do? Is that not the Great Commission?

The reason I pressed the bible issue's with you is because of what I am about to share.
There are many who are pastors that are Freemasons which work for the Kenites. The pastors that are Freemasons will go to any length to keep people from knowing what happened in the Garden of Eden with Eth HaAdam, Eve, and Satan. They also are elders in many churches. And those churches hire pastors that they can control what they teach. They do not want anyone to know about the fallen angels. It would ruin the end time deception of Satan coming with his fallen angels. Bible clearly states that Satan will have fallen angels with him. (12:9)
I know many pastors teach that Rev. 12:9 has already happened. Fine, okay by me if they think that, but see John is the one that received the revelation long after Satan came down and ran to and fro from earth back to heaven.
Also, many pastors error thinking that the churches are raptured in 1:11 and the order is by God is "to send" to the churches. Send means they are not there, and John is the messenger.
(Yea, I know your stance on that, and it does not mean a thing to me.)(Traditions of men is all that means to me.)
So we have today Freemasons that keep the truth from being told because of the control of Kenites.
I want to point out that this week on agent provocateur on the net, he has someone come forward with a video of them taping a pastor who was a Freemason confessing that he is one and at the same time telling the person taping the conversation that he is saved by Jesus. (Proves to anyone that something might be correct about my statement of Freemasons in churches.)
They are thick and heavy in the churches, all guarding there pappa's agenda, that is Satan.


You are absolulely correct my friend on the Masons.

I have personally taught many classes at other churches on the evil of Freemasonary. I have become somewaht of an authority on the subject.

I would venture to say that fully 25% of all denominational pastors are Masons or were at one time a Mason. You are preaching to the choir.

I have already responded to Rev. 12:9 and stated that is is yet in the future.(Are you reading what I post?)12:7-9 are in the last 3 1?2 year of the Tribulation.

Well Major, I have popped you bubble.. lol
I have been kidding and working you over all along all the way letting you see how Christians can battle like no end... lol IN other words, been setting you up letting you see the real world as I see it when I see brothers and sisters going at it like we have been doing.. lol
I have seen battles in churches like you would not believe. "I want the piano over here." " No, I want it over here." "Well then, I am not going to be a member of this church if I can't have my way..." Ever hear and or see that? I have..
And they do. Pay attention to the threads just here on glp alone. Fight after fight, and the saying " I am better with the Word than you are" is the common theme that we see coming out of most... lol
I wonder if Christ will come and line us up and ask us this one question: "Did you argue about my scriptures with other Christians and non-Christians"?
Answer would be yes for the best of us... lol
Jesus would say then, " Go stand in the corner and take a time out".
Actually said by a five year old kid.. lol
So I am going to go stand in the corner now... lol
Hey Major, keep the faith, and stand ready! The Lord loves you and so do I....
Maybe you can use our chat as a way to teach patience and love for one and another to your congregation.. lol

For a non-college boy, I would say I have quite of bit of studying under my belt. Does not mean a thing if I don't walk with the Lord, and if I don't love my brother and sisters of this world.
Peace brother!
Gotcha! lol


Yea! You got me. Congratlations. You are really something man. O.....by the way, when you said...................

"For a non-college boy, I would say I have quite of bit of studying under my belt. Does not mean a thing if I don't walk with the Lord, and if I don't love my brother and sisters of this world.
Peace brother!
Gotcha! lol"

That really lifts up your character because back on 10/14/2009 at 8:51 AM you said............

"For your information, I am a college boy too. In fact I have 3 college degrees".

But here you say "For a non-college boy"..................

Here is a Bible verse that it looks like you need to do some of that studying with your belt on:
Exodus 20:16..."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

YOU SURE GOT ME!!!

lol

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

And from that you got sex from satan and eve?
Talk about assuming

tisk tisk tisk.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.

Sorry, I haven't been paying too much attention to you.
I have been focusing on one person here, Major, for a reason..
Blessings to you..

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.



But you did make an error all the same.

Look here:

[link to www.sacrednamebible.com]

Perhaps you looked up in wrong dictionary -Greek instead of Hebrew.

Now are you man or woman enough to admit your error?

God says in Isaiah 66:4 "I will chose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer: when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before Mine eyes, and chose that in which I delight not."
That verse is not just talking about 'sins'. Think about it.
Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major.
So, If God wants us to come to Him, and the Lord died for our sins, what is God talking about that He has to cover the eyes of those that slumber?
To many, that would seem unfair that God would keep some in spiritual slumber.
I know why.. Because when those that are to be in spiritual slumber and they hear the real truth and bow down to Satan after finding that truth; they are done like all the others that will bow down to Satan when he comes, even tho they may be pastors, and or Christians professing the Lord has saved them.
Many Christians today are in a spiritual slumber, and as you said pastor in one of your postings "I don't know what kind of pastor Baptist you are. Yea, some play with snakes and are ignorant, just like some are ignorant of what the fallen angels had done in the past.
The book of Enoch tells us that Enoch was taken by God and was with God for over 300 years. Then God had the angels that taught Enoch and then God sent Enoch back to tell those fallen angels that God was not pleased and for "seducing woman" and side stepping His plan. God has reserved them into chains of darkness unto this day they are held according to what I have learned.
Jude, the half brother of Christ says that in Jude 6. So when you say, "well that is not the bible and I don't accept it, it will be fine by me."
I guess Christ and Jude must of had that conversation and or the book of Enoch was in their hands at one point for Jude to make that statement.
Many books have been written about the fallen angels. ( Yea, I know it is not the bible, but the manuscripts make it quite clear..)
So, I have come to the conclusion that either you are a Freemason, or you are in a spiritual slumber because you will not have the strength to stand against Satan and his 7000 man army of angels when they arrive. (YOu can be ticked off by that statement all you want, it will not bother me. You can say I am attacking you and your character, fine, look at it that way..) (Okay, we already know you don't accept the 7000 count of them, but Rev. 12 states they are coming with Satan, and symbolically Rev. 9 tells you their demeanor and how they will be when they arrive.
Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major.

To keep as many as people from falling into the trap of worshiping Satan when he comes and the grand deception that is in full effect today controlled by the Kenites.
Bible says, the whole world will worship Satan except those chosen, remnant as you put it, and I say 7000 of Romans 11:4. (Note: more than 7000 will know it is Satan, I am talking just about those chosen to have the Holy Spirit speaking through them in the hour of temptation as Christ taught us in Mark 13:11)
Your objective from what I see is "to pop bubbles", to stand King of the mountain child's play, and or keep people from finding out "all" the truth of what is going on.
I think also if I was you, I would take your diploma back to the Kenite school that you were taught by and ask for a refund of your money. (That statement is really stepping on your pride big time.. lol) I can just hear it now back from you... lol
(Can't wait to hear your words about the book of Enoch and I am sure it will go something like this...)
It is not Gods Word.. lol Yet God took Enoch and Enoch was a prophet and his name is in the King James bible that you use. (Oh, I am sure that does mean anything to you, because you are a college boy.)


I take the Ishaiah 66:4 passage to be Zions future hope.

Your quote"
"Romans 11:8" (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"); unto this day." ( I bet you say, Well this is talking about Jesus and Salvation. Fine, then God is controlling salvation then and John 3:16 is null and void, if that is your stance.)
The brackets are in my King James, hope that does not offend you Major."

To grasp 11:8 one must read verse #7
"What then? ISRAEL hath not obtained that which he seekth for; but the "election" hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded."

The "election" is literally, THE CHOSEN ONES. Theses are the believing Israelites like Paul (verse 1) who have believed and are being saved today.

If I did not believe in John 3:16 then I would be a "Hyper-Calvinist" wouldnt I. That is the 5th step of TULIP. I told you a long time ago that I do not believe that.


Your quote:

"The book of Enoch tells us that Enoch was taken by God and was with God for over 300 years. Then God had the angels that taught Enoch and then God sent Enoch back to tell those fallen angels that God was not pleased and for "seducing woman" and side stepping His plan. God has reserved them into chains of darkness unto this day they are held according to what I have learned'

Completly in error!!
"Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters.

No where is there a statement of Enoch doing what you said.



Your quote
" Your objective from what I see is "to pop bubbles", to stand King of the mountain child's play, and or keep people from finding out "all" the truth of what is going on".

You have an infeariority complex don't you. Lesten Star, you are a good man, you mean well and have worked hard to learn what you know. I am proud of you. I have already told you that I am not going to banter back and forth with you. Think what you want. Assume all you want. I DO NOT CARE.

Your quote
"I think also if I was you, I would take your diploma back to the Kenite school that you were taught by and ask for a refund of your money. (That statement is really stepping on your pride big time.. lol) I can just hear it now back from you... lol

You are not me. And do you know the irony of that statement? No of course not. I will tell you. I am sitting in my home, in my office with my fathers WW2 flag looking at me. He was totalled disabled in that war. I look next to it and there are my decorations etc. from the Vietnam war. I said that to say this....we did that so that people like you could say exactly what you just said. My father, totalled disabled, gave every penny he could to see me and his children through school so that in our life we could make a difference. Because of that kind of love and commitment, he was able to look all of his children in the eye from his death bed and tell us...."I love you and I am so very proud of you".

Now, let me make sure you understand something Bubba.....
There is not enough money in the world to buy my nor my brothers/sisters college diplomas back. Just thank God you are talking with me and not my sister. She reads what you wrote and I promise you, she will come through this computer for you. She is scary when it comes to her mom and dad. ME, I forgive because I understand you.

And remember, you did apologize and I know you meant it. Right??? I know you would not lie about that!

As for you purpose here. I do not know.


Let me ask you this.

How many lost souls have you won to Christ?
Isn't that what we are to do? Is that not the Great Commission?


Isn't ironic that I said that you would have a different opinion on Enoch. Not in those words, but the statement is there, if you read closer.
Hey, as an ex-military fellow myself, and being a Huey mechanic, Oh-58 mech. and a UT 21 mech, in Korean, I can relate quite clearly on your duty and what you have given to this nation so guys like us can chat and say what we want. I am with ya completely. I am a Nam "Vietnam" vet, so again I completely understand where you are coming from.
And I will say this, it is an honor and a privilege to be speaking with you.
And as far as me slamming your Baptist schooling, proud of you. I was putting the peddle to the meddle to prove something about Christians I was going to do everything I could to make you feel as uneasy as I could. I wonder how many Christians on glp will see this thread? (Get the point now?)
Now to answer you last question about here on my response..
Your question" How many lost souls have you won to Christ?
Isn't that what we are to do? Is that not the Great Commission?
That is an open ended question. All I have the power to do is plant seeds. God waters them and makes them grow. I have nothing to do with it. I don't have the power to change any heart or to make them come to the Lord. Have I seen people turn their lives over to the Lord in front of me? Lost count!
Lot of pastors from my experience think they control that, I hope you don't think you control that, and that being souls won for the Lord.
God knows everyones heart long before they are born. We have several stories in the bible about that.
What we can do it is, we can awaken them by the way of scripture and by the way of the Holy Spirit. We do not have control over anyones soul. Not one!
My self image is not some huge pride walking Christian, and I am not going to get any more reward in heaven than anyone else that goes. I know many say 'the more I do for the Lord, the more I am going to get from Him.
Disciples had issue's with that too, who was going to be the greatest.. I am "little star", little represents, humbleness. Star represents me being a child of God. Nothing more, nothing less.
So I will humbly bow out, and say it one more time.... I love you in the Lord, and I respect you very much, and appreciate the chat.
I know you want to keep going with our chat and all, and that is fine. So I can say in conclusion that there is no winners in who knows what in scripture the best, who has the best education, who is anything in this world at all. All vanities saith the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:12"And further, by these , my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is weariness of the flesh".
Eccl. 12:13" Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God (I input this.. Revere God), and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."
Again, I want to show you what the Holy Spirit is showing me. " Many Christians are battling with each other like the disciples." They are falling short, big time. Who has a better account than anyone else in the Lord and His Word. Show me that person! Make him or her stand up so we all can see that person.
Major, I hope you understand again what I just did with you. When I found out you were a pastor, I knew I could show through you what is going on in the churches. I felt it in my spirit and I believe I was being lead to put you on the ropes (figure of speech) and come out boxing scriptures with you.
Personally, I can't save a soul, but planting seeds I can do and I think I do it well.I can then be patient with the Lord and let Him grow that soul.
With that being said, I know how pastors are about their sheep, protecting them, even from other pastors. (Mostly because of money and power and control.)
I do my homework on the Word, and I continue daily making adjustments on my learning and my thoughts as to what the Word is saying.
And if you need to hear this from me then I will say it..
YOU WON!
But the Lord won for me years ago. I am at rest, how about you?
Blessing and it was indeed an honor to speak with a fellow military person.
May the Lord lead, guide and protect you always.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.



But you did make an error all the same.

Look here:

[link to www.sacrednamebible.com]

Perhaps you looked up in wrong dictionary -Greek instead of Hebrew.

Now are you man or woman enough to admit your error?

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.

Sorry, I haven't been paying too much attention to you.
I have been focusing on one person here, Major, for a reason..
Blessings to you..

Did you ever learn Hebraisms, idioms, figures of speech, metaphors while learning the bible?
Eat,,, you can look it up all you want and any dictionary will give the definition that will relate to food.
But in the case of Gen. chapter 3, it does not mean eat of food. No, they did not eat an apple and I wish you would show me that very verse that they eat an apple.
Let me show you something about figures of speech. Eccl. chapter was given to Major to read for a reason. To show all that in the King James Eccl. chapter 12 is nothing but metaphors, figures of speech, or almost!
Another example: Rev. 9:8 is talking about fallen angels, yet they are called "locust" there in chapter nine defining the "season" ( again I might loose you there ), and I quote that verse...
Rev. 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions."
Tell me, do you see Locust looking like that?
I have had some pastors even say' God will create those Locust, those monsters in the end times." Really shows their lack of knowledge on metaphors, Hebraisms, idioms, figures of speech. When you understand that, the word eat will come to live for you in Gen. chapter 3.
Hair of a woman is showing us the demeanor of the fallen angels character when they come. It means they will be soft, gentle, and even shiny like a earth womans hair, not rough like mens hair usually are.
Teeth of a lion means in a metaphoric expression (think about the real lion now, stay with me on this or I will loose you), that they (locust fallen angels) will deceive, and rip and tare souls while people are alive in the flesh. Totally meaning "deception and winning souls to bow down to Satan."
Now if you want to disagree with that,fine, it is okay by me.. I am not on some power trip!
Read what I just said to Major, I did what I did to not only let Major see what is going on, but for folks just like you who call themselves Christians..
Have a nice day, and may the Lord lead and guide you too and protect you...

The reason I pressed the bible issue's with you is because of what I am about to share.
There are many who are pastors that are Freemasons which work for the Kenites. The pastors that are Freemasons will go to any length to keep people from knowing what happened in the Garden of Eden with Eth HaAdam, Eve, and Satan. They also are elders in many churches. And those churches hire pastors that they can control what they teach. They do not want anyone to know about the fallen angels. It would ruin the end time deception of Satan coming with his fallen angels. Bible clearly states that Satan will have fallen angels with him. (12:9)
I know many pastors teach that Rev. 12:9 has already happened. Fine, okay by me if they think that, but see John is the one that received the revelation long after Satan came down and ran to and fro from earth back to heaven.
Also, many pastors error thinking that the churches are raptured in 1:11 and the order is by God is "to send" to the churches. Send means they are not there, and John is the messenger.
(Yea, I know your stance on that, and it does not mean a thing to me.)(Traditions of men is all that means to me.)
So we have today Freemasons that keep the truth from being told because of the control of Kenites.
I want to point out that this week on agent provocateur on the net, he has someone come forward with a video of them taping a pastor who was a Freemason confessing that he is one and at the same time telling the person taping the conversation that he is saved by Jesus. (Proves to anyone that something might be correct about my statement of Freemasons in churches.)
They are thick and heavy in the churches, all guarding there pappa's agenda, that is Satan.


You are absolulely correct my friend on the Masons.

I have personally taught many classes at other churches on the evil of Freemasonary. I have become somewaht of an authority on the subject.

I would venture to say that fully 25% of all denominational pastors are Masons or were at one time a Mason. You are preaching to the choir.

I have already responded to Rev. 12:9 and stated that is is yet in the future.(Are you reading what I post?)12:7-9 are in the last 3 1?2 year of the Tribulation.

Well Major, I have popped you bubble.. lol
I have been kidding and working you over all along all the way letting you see how Christians can battle like no end... lol IN other words, been setting you up letting you see the real world as I see it when I see brothers and sisters going at it like we have been doing.. lol
I have seen battles in churches like you would not believe. "I want the piano over here." " No, I want it over here." "Well then, I am not going to be a member of this church if I can't have my way..." Ever hear and or see that? I have..
And they do. Pay attention to the threads just here on glp alone. Fight after fight, and the saying " I am better with the Word than you are" is the common theme that we see coming out of most... lol
I wonder if Christ will come and line us up and ask us this one question: "Did you argue about my scriptures with other Christians and non-Christians"?
Answer would be yes for the best of us... lol
Jesus would say then, " Go stand in the corner and take a time out".
Actually said by a five year old kid.. lol
So I am going to go stand in the corner now... lol
Hey Major, keep the faith, and stand ready! The Lord loves you and so do I....
Maybe you can use our chat as a way to teach patience and love for one and another to your congregation.. lol

For a non-college boy, I would say I have quite of bit of studying under my belt. Does not mean a thing if I don't walk with the Lord, and if I don't love my brother and sisters of this world.
Peace brother!
Gotcha! lol


Yea! You got me. Congratlations. You are really something man. O.....by the way, when you said...................

"For a non-college boy, I would say I have quite of bit of studying under my belt. Does not mean a thing if I don't walk with the Lord, and if I don't love my brother and sisters of this world.
Peace brother!
Gotcha! lol"

That really lifts up your character because back on 10/14/2009 at 8:51 AM you said............

"For your information, I am a college boy too. In fact I have 3 college degrees".

But here you say "For a non-college boy"..................

Here is a Bible verse that it looks like you need to do some of that studying with your belt on:
Exodus 20:16..."Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

YOU SURE GOT ME!!!

lol

Non-college boy refers to not being into bible school! I have a mech. eng. degree, electronic degree, and an arts degree. But am not a college boy of BIBLE SCHOOLS..
I thought I was being clear.. lol

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.

Major said:

>>>Your quote is
"Now we are on REv.12:9 talking about the names of Satan, the many names. But when I did my (tree of knowledge of good and evil, Satan,serpent) from Gen. 3:15 I was accused of adding to Gods Word. Can't have it both ways Pastor. So since you say the the serpent is one of Satan's name, then Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he beguiled Eve which made her pregnant. But in your opinion, no angels can have sex with humans"...

Readers Digest Dictionary says the meaning of "BEGUILE" is:
"To deceive, mislead, defrraud, to while away".
Websters American Dictionary says "BEGUILE" means to:
"To charm, to divert ones attention, to trick".

Littlestars meaning of "BEGUILE" as quoted abovre is:
"Gen. chapter 3 is talking about Satan and how he
beguiled Eve which made her pregnant."

Makes no difference to me whilch one you think is right.<<<


You are looking in the wrong dictionaries for your definitions.

Try Greek/ Hebrew Dictionary.


Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

H5377
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce


2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

G1818
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly
G538
ap-at-ah'-o
Of uncertain derivation; to cheat, that is, delude

Yea, I was going to quote that too!
See, it is not about who is right or wrong with scriptures. Put your trust in the Lord. He said He would never leave you nor forsake you. I believe that fully.



Not that I do not believe you, but I checked the Hebrew and guess what

Your search - H5377 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "H5377"

Yep. I copied and pasted it to make sure I did not make an error.


i want to believe you, but did a google search anyway. guess what i found? NOTHING.

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imagine that

OH, and Little Star

Thanks for the info you gave on 'Rapha'.

I looked it up and learned something new.

I love it when I learn something new. LOL

1st Seal - Antichrist - False peace
(Rev 6:1-2) (Mat 24) (Dan 9:27)

2nd Seal - War
(Rev 6:3-4) (Mat 24)

3rd Seal - Famine
(Rev 6:5-6) (Mat 24)

4th Seal - Death
(Rev 6:7-8) (Mat 24)

During the Seal Judgments, The Lord Jesus reveals
that the following event will take place; a sign.

Mathhew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of
desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the
holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

again...

2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day ((The Day of The Lord, 6th Seal)) shall not
come, except there come a falling away first, and that man
of sin be revealed, the son of perdition," "Who opposeth
and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that
is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of
God, shewing himself that he is God."

Satan, the son of perdition, the man of sin will show
himself right here on earth, and Satan will sit in the
temple where Jesus Christ will build His temple, and
deceive the entire world into thinking that this filthy
liar Satan is Jesus Christ, is God. The entire world will
believe that Satan is God and worship him above all other
things and gods of the nations of the world. It is going to
happen, and Paul warns you not to be deceived by any means.
Not by your pastor and his fly away theories, not by your
government, or even your parents.

The whole world will worship the Beast.
When Satan comes as the beast he will have so much
power and authority that the whole world will marvel.

“And all the world marveled and followed the beast.”
Revelation 13:3

"Almost" everyone in the world will worship the beast.


5th Seal - Believers martyred (Rev 6:9-11 Matt 24:9-10)


A few people will choose to worship the Lamb instead of the
beast. Jesus is called the Lamb and Satan is called the
beast. The people who choose to worship the Lamb will have
their names written in the Lamb’s book of life. Everyone
else will worship the beast.

“All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names
have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8

6th Seal - That Day, The sign; earthquake, sun darkened
Believers are raptured. (Rev 6:12-17) (Mat 24:29-31)
The time of the gentile ends.

"Tribulation" ends.

"God's Wrath" begins.

Sealing of God's servants (Israel)(Rev 7:3)
God turns to Israel.

7th Seal - The trumpet judgments begin (Rev 8:1-6)



The above is "not" taught today in most churches,
chapels or Gospel Halls.

The "pretrib doctrine" is taught today and backed up
with the "POPULAR" C.I.Scofield Reference Bible with
accompanying margin notes.

The popular "left behind" books and movies
are also based of Scofield's notes.

Is pretrib a teachings of man?

Scofield says Matthew 24 is for Israel, what????

Matthew 24 for Israel??, its the only way the pretrib
doctrine meshes together properly.

The Scofield notes and pretrib doctrine are based on the
teachings of John Darby.


What does The Lord Jesus say to the Apostles before
revealing the future to them in Matthew 24?

Mat 24:4 "take heed that no man deceive you"


We need to examine these things and pray on them.