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| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 11:48 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
^ Little Star, what in the world are you talking about? I was commenting on the original article of the OP concerning the end times, not anything you have said. I'm not quite sure what you believe to even comment upon it. I do enjoy reading you on this forum, though, and I found that born from above mini-sermon interesting.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 11:48 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Last Edited by ThreshingSword on 10/9/2009 at 11:48 AM
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 11:49 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
You cannot understand the prophecies of the end times without first understanding who the gentiles really are.
As I believe Wingedlion has said in another thread, the time of the gentiles is about to end. If you read Luke 21:24 - 32, this explains where we are at on God's timeline. Jesus said once you see all these things taking place, meaning being alive to see the end of the time of the gentiles, that very generation that sees all these things will be the generation that sees the Lord's return. There's differing interpretations on what constitutes a "generation" in the Bible, but it never defines a generation as a few years.
Who really are the gentiles? Not many people understand who they really are. Once you realize who they are, a whole lot of the Bible begins to make a heck of a lot more sense.
Who is scattered and who is re-gathered at the appointed time?
Who is Yisrael but as in who is Redeemed Yisrael?
What other could there be according to the Torah/"Law" requirements to the 'jot' and 'tittle' than those who have remission of sin by the Life of the Blood of the Lamb who is the Living Covenant foretold of?
Who are they who have come out of the nations of every race, color or creed, to be no longer called by that people they once were of but are Redeemed Yisrael grafted into the Tree of Life?
Who is the King who reigns over his People in the Land of Israel where there is none who offend and total Shalom/Peace? By the true King's definition they must be 'born again' of Spirit and Truth having been redeemed from all peoples even of those of Israel who looked for him to come and saw him even as the Passover Lamb who came to give his Life of his Blood for the remission of sin.
What is the Fig Tree and what is the taking of so many prophecies of the Redeemed Yisrael and applying to the rebellious people of 2 horns and 10 horns and the nations of that Fig Tree where it has put on leaves and is where the Eagles are gathered with that dead carcass. The messiah having those words are very strong to keep his people who hear his voice from the LIE of the Strong Delusion. Who has cast off the Yoke of his Brother, called Esau and what league is with him? But is is in the end and then the vengeance will be seen coming in the clouds of the heavens. It is near that time now.
Gentiles are to the fullness but as in the scattering of the people of Yisrael to the second Exodus, but Yisrael was Jacob but became Yisrael, how? By receiving a new name not given by man as in the picture foretold of becoming born again and those who will be present with Messiah at that second Exodus. A great multitude already gone on out of the Dust but more to join them who are still alive in the Dust and some who will become of Spirit before that time is done.
The flesh and blood of Dust imitates the Life of the Spirit. Tney are both playing out in similitude. Only one is perfect to the 'jot' and the 'tittle'. His kingdom is not of Flesh and Blood but of Spirit and Truth of Life. Shall that great multitude of Life one day be seen? And as the Living Word will Play out the Words of his Book in perfect harmony, so shall it be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733532
MMMM< I got to tell ya that the King's definition did not say "Born Again>""""
I know all the modern bibles, and even the King James says that the King said that, but He did not say it that way, He said "Born from Above"....
Just pointing this out to ya... I hope I don't get you upset by that...
When you say NEW NAME I assume you are referring to Rev. 2:17 and that new Name?
Cause I have received a white stone with a new name written that knowone knows and can receive it unless it is given to the one that gives it... I know the new name... lol
I am just having fun with ya...lol
I hear this so much it is second nature for me... lol
I am ready tho, you can count on that, to do what must be done in the "hour of temptation"... |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 11:50 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
The speculations and confusions of the Lawless. These things are perfectly foretold in the Law/Torah that was never done away but of his Heart of his Book in the Living Words who is the one remission of sin and of that Life given of his Blood.
Daniel 12. Outline of the Scattering to the Restoration of Power of the Holy People. Of the Redeemed.
1000/1000/500 - 1335 at 2500 - 1290 at -45/+45. To fit the timeline the +45 at Ezra/Nehemiah, the -45 at the putting forth of leaves of the Fig Tree.
Scattering to the Re-gathering of the secnod Exodus.
Jeremiah 46 / 586 BC / First Bondage 430 / Second Bondage X 6/At the X 7 the Bondservant will go free.
The witnesses of Revelation 11 are Lawful but only in Spirit and Truth that cannot be seperated for it is in the Heart of the Messiah, of his BEING.
Start with the Ten Commandments for those following them where there is Spirit and Truth of that remission of sin of an unconditional Yes to the Messiah of whose heart they still are shown in the Ark of the Covenant but more awesome in the Living Covenant of that true Ark.
YHVH Yahushua are ONE.
No Idols.
Use his NAME Yahuweh not a Baal Title.
Keep his Shalom of Shabbat not adding or taking away from the Living Shabbat. Yahushua is not a worship service but speaking of the Being as ONE with that Shabbat to do his commandments.
Love YHVH that way and then love others as loving oneself in Loving YHVH.
Honor mother and father.
No Murder.
No Adultery.
No Stealing.
No Bearing False Witness.
No Coveting.
No Lies.
Possible where there is remission of sin where the Walking is set in Yes One on One to the Messiah if one can walk in that truth as the one to do so must be born again of that Spirit and Truth where it is impossible to fail. A heart condition to strive against sin where there is forgiveness in confession and repentance before the Throne of Heaven.
If you get a chance, do a real good study on the words "Born Again".
When you really do get down to doing that, you will find that no where in the manuscripts does it say "Born Again" as referred by your words. Yes, I know what you are sharing and it is wonderful and all, so don't mis-understand what I am sharing and saying.
Born again is not born again in the scriptures which you are referring to about Born Again. In the manuscripts is says "Born from Above".
Oh my, I wonder what that means?
If you interested ask and I will tell you how to find out for yourself.
Again, I understand what you shared, I am just presenting what is in the manuscripts, nothing more or less.
So is there a differene in being Grafted into the Tree of Life where the experience is of being Born Again, Born from Above, Baptized in the Life of the Holy Spirit of the baptizer Yahushua, having eternal life by the Power of the Life that was given of the Blood of the Lamb but that Holy Spirit is the One of Being with that Great King? Word definitions mean nothing. The Meaning of the Words for the Heart, He Means Everything. His Heart is in the Meanings of Spirit of the Words. Spirit Knowing vs. proper definitions for the Knowledge of the Mind. But that Mind be Renewed by the Mind of the Messiah. Presume someone must meet the definitions of man for being of Spirit and Truth or is it of the Heart of Knowing the Messiah by His Words of Life, as in saying Faith coming from Hearing the Living Word speaking to the heart.
I understand clearly, so don't be upset with me about what I presented, and again I just told you what is in the manuscripts.
Now you state that word definitions mean nothing, right?
That is funny we have definitions for all words of every language and today "definitions mean nothing" according to you. I am not making any strife with ya, just pointing out some things for ya... mmmm k..
Now, what does the words Born from Above mean in the manuscripts where it is used in the bible as written "born again"?
Born from above means that a human is born through a womans womb and did not side step Gods plan like the Napah, fallen angels that side stepped Gods plan of everyone being born of woman and having their spiritual body put into the flesh body.
Big difference, huh? Big difference from the words Born again... huh?
Again, I am not trying to blast you with the simple words of Born again verse's Born from Above. I am just sharing what is written in the manuscripts and what it means. mmm k?
Next you will be asking me if I am born again.. lol
Sure am! More than you can know, spiritually!
Not understanding. No argument nor disagreement. But Spiritual words for the Heart to discern in Meaning above that of the knowledge of the mind. But that mind be renewed by the Mind of the Messiah.
Which is more important in the Kingdom of YHVH.
A definition to understand of mind.
A meaning to understand of heart?
Heart first the mind renewed.
The mind first, the heart confused where there is strife and argument over definitions where meanings take a back seat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733532
I love you too!!
Sorry for upsetting you... |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 11:50 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
You cannot understand the prophecies of the end times without first understanding who the gentiles really are.
As I believe Wingedlion has said in another thread, the time of the gentiles is about to end. If you read Luke 21:24 - 32, this explains where we are at on God's timeline. Jesus said once you see all these things taking place, meaning being alive to see the end of the time of the gentiles, that very generation that sees all these things will be the generation that sees the Lord's return. There's differing interpretations on what constitutes a "generation" in the Bible, but it never defines a generation as a few years.
Who really are the gentiles? Not many people understand who they really are. Once you realize who they are, a whole lot of the Bible begins to make a heck of a lot more sense.
Who is scattered and who is re-gathered at the appointed time?
Who is Yisrael but as in who is Redeemed Yisrael?
What other could there be according to the Torah/"Law" requirements to the 'jot' and 'tittle' than those who have remission of sin by the Life of the Blood of the Lamb who is the Living Covenant foretold of?
Who are they who have come out of the nations of every race, color or creed, to be no longer called by that people they once were of but are Redeemed Yisrael grafted into the Tree of Life?
Who is the King who reigns over his People in the Land of Israel where there is none who offend and total Shalom/Peace? By the true King's definition they must be 'born again' of Spirit and Truth having been redeemed from all peoples even of those of Israel who looked for him to come and saw him even as the Passover Lamb who came to give his Life of his Blood for the remission of sin.
What is the Fig Tree and what is the taking of so many prophecies of the Redeemed Yisrael and applying to the rebellious people of 2 horns and 10 horns and the nations of that Fig Tree where it has put on leaves and is where the Eagles are gathered with that dead carcass. The messiah having those words are very strong to keep his people who hear his voice from the LIE of the Strong Delusion. Who has cast off the Yoke of his Brother, called Esau and what league is with him? But is is in the end and then the vengeance will be seen coming in the clouds of the heavens. It is near that time now.
Gentiles are to the fullness but as in the scattering of the people of Yisrael to the second Exodus, but Yisrael was Jacob but became Yisrael, how? By receiving a new name not given by man as in the picture foretold of becoming born again and those who will be present with Messiah at that second Exodus. A great multitude already gone on out of the Dust but more to join them who are still alive in the Dust and some who will become of Spirit before that time is done.
The flesh and blood of Dust imitates the Life of the Spirit. Tney are both playing out in similitude. Only one is perfect to the 'jot' and the 'tittle'. His kingdom is not of Flesh and Blood but of Spirit and Truth of Life. Shall that great multitude of Life one day be seen? And as the Living Word will Play out the Words of his Book in perfect harmony, so shall it be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733532
The gentiles are the Nephilim. And yes, even they can be saved, and many will be.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 11:51 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Little Star, who do you understand the Kenites to be?
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 11:53 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
^ Little Star, what in the world are you talking about? I was commenting on the original article of the OP concerning the end times, not anything you have said. I'm not quite sure what you believe to even comment upon it. I do enjoy reading you on this forum, though, and I found that born from above mini-sermon interesting. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Sorry, I do get people excited at times.
The born from above is quite true and I would challenge anyone to validate it for themselves...
I think I was talking to OP... At least I am hoping I am.. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 11:57 AM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Little Star, who do you understand the Kenites to be? Quoting: ThreshingSword
OH, I can tell ya who they are in todays world and I can point to the scripture that defines who they were in yesterdays history..
1 Chronicles 2:55.. They all mixed with the fallen angels, and they are the seed of Satan....
(Boy did I open up on something that will get many upset..)
lol
When I mean seed of Satan, just that, they are the direct blood line of Satan. And they live today and rule the world today, ever meet one?
We have all our presie's running to one here in the US every time we need to have something special done... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 733532
10/9/2009 12:00 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
The speculations and confusions of the Lawless. These things are perfectly foretold in the Law/Torah that was never done away but of his Heart of his Book in the Living Words who is the one remission of sin and of that Life given of his Blood.
Daniel 12. Outline of the Scattering to the Restoration of Power of the Holy People. Of the Redeemed.
1000/1000/500 - 1335 at 2500 - 1290 at -45/+45. To fit the timeline the +45 at Ezra/Nehemiah, the -45 at the putting forth of leaves of the Fig Tree.
Scattering to the Re-gathering of the secnod Exodus.
Jeremiah 46 / 586 BC / First Bondage 430 / Second Bondage X 6/At the X 7 the Bondservant will go free.
The witnesses of Revelation 11 are Lawful but only in Spirit and Truth that cannot be seperated for it is in the Heart of the Messiah, of his BEING.
Start with the Ten Commandments for those following them where there is Spirit and Truth of that remission of sin of an unconditional Yes to the Messiah of whose heart they still are shown in the Ark of the Covenant but more awesome in the Living Covenant of that true Ark.
YHVH Yahushua are ONE.
No Idols.
Use his NAME Yahuweh not a Baal Title.
Keep his Shalom of Shabbat not adding or taking away from the Living Shabbat. Yahushua is not a worship service but speaking of the Being as ONE with that Shabbat to do his commandments.
Love YHVH that way and then love others as loving oneself in Loving YHVH.
Honor mother and father.
No Murder.
No Adultery.
No Stealing.
No Bearing False Witness.
No Coveting.
No Lies.
Possible where there is remission of sin where the Walking is set in Yes One on One to the Messiah if one can walk in that truth as the one to do so must be born again of that Spirit and Truth where it is impossible to fail. A heart condition to strive against sin where there is forgiveness in confession and repentance before the Throne of Heaven.
If you get a chance, do a real good study on the words "Born Again".
When you really do get down to doing that, you will find that no where in the manuscripts does it say "Born Again" as referred by your words. Yes, I know what you are sharing and it is wonderful and all, so don't mis-understand what I am sharing and saying.
Born again is not born again in the scriptures which you are referring to about Born Again. In the manuscripts is says "Born from Above".
Oh my, I wonder what that means?
If you interested ask and I will tell you how to find out for yourself.
Again, I understand what you shared, I am just presenting what is in the manuscripts, nothing more or less.
So is there a differene in being Grafted into the Tree of Life where the experience is of being Born Again, Born from Above, Baptized in the Life of the Holy Spirit of the baptizer Yahushua, having eternal life by the Power of the Life that was given of the Blood of the Lamb but that Holy Spirit is the One of Being with that Great King? Word definitions mean nothing. The Meaning of the Words for the Heart, He Means Everything. His Heart is in the Meanings of Spirit of the Words. Spirit Knowing vs. proper definitions for the Knowledge of the Mind. But that Mind be Renewed by the Mind of the Messiah. Presume someone must meet the definitions of man for being of Spirit and Truth or is it of the Heart of Knowing the Messiah by His Words of Life, as in saying Faith coming from Hearing the Living Word speaking to the heart.
I understand clearly, so don't be upset with me about what I presented, and again I just told you what is in the manuscripts.
Now you state that word definitions mean nothing, right?
That is funny we have definitions for all words of every language and today "definitions mean nothing" according to you. I am not making any strife with ya, just pointing out some things for ya... mmmm k..
Now, what does the words Born from Above mean in the manuscripts where it is used in the bible as written "born again"?
Born from above means that a human is born through a womans womb and did not side step Gods plan like the Napah, fallen angels that side stepped Gods plan of everyone being born of woman and having their spiritual body put into the flesh body.
Big difference, huh? Big difference from the words Born again... huh?
Again, I am not trying to blast you with the simple words of Born again verse's Born from Above. I am just sharing what is written in the manuscripts and what it means. mmm k?
Next you will be asking me if I am born again.. lol
Sure am! More than you can know, spiritually!
Not understanding. No argument nor disagreement. But Spiritual words for the Heart to discern in Meaning above that of the knowledge of the mind. But that mind be renewed by the Mind of the Messiah.
Which is more important in the Kingdom of YHVH.
A definition to understand of mind.
A meaning to understand of heart?
Heart first the mind renewed.
The mind first, the heart confused where there is strife and argument over definitions where meanings take a back seat.
I love you too!!
Sorry for upsetting you... Quoting: Little Star
No upsetting at all. The meanings for one on one with Messiah if one be given to understand. Messiah hasn't changed one 'jot' nor 'tittle' of the meanings of his heart to say of Spirit but we know to have that Shalom in him. Some to have preference in definition only of Words so similar that either way can lead to the knowing of the Heart of Messiah as in the definition given by the previous verse in John of flesh and spirit, but showing what 'born again' or 'born from above' means, but the Meaning of Experiencing that Thing did not change with either definition. See not upset but pointing out how the words can point to the experience of the Heart and how much more important is the meaning of Experience than just knowing about something. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:01 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
You cannot understand the prophecies of the end times without first understanding who the gentiles really are.
As I believe Wingedlion has said in another thread, the time of the gentiles is about to end. If you read Luke 21:24 - 32, this explains where we are at on God's timeline. Jesus said once you see all these things taking place, meaning being alive to see the end of the time of the gentiles, that very generation that sees all these things will be the generation that sees the Lord's return. There's differing interpretations on what constitutes a "generation" in the Bible, but it never defines a generation as a few years.
Who really are the gentiles? Not many people understand who they really are. Once you realize who they are, a whole lot of the Bible begins to make a heck of a lot more sense.
Who is scattered and who is re-gathered at the appointed time?
Who is Yisrael but as in who is Redeemed Yisrael?
What other could there be according to the Torah/"Law" requirements to the 'jot' and 'tittle' than those who have remission of sin by the Life of the Blood of the Lamb who is the Living Covenant foretold of?
Who are they who have come out of the nations of every race, color or creed, to be no longer called by that people they once were of but are Redeemed Yisrael grafted into the Tree of Life?
Who is the King who reigns over his People in the Land of Israel where there is none who offend and total Shalom/Peace? By the true King's definition they must be 'born again' of Spirit and Truth having been redeemed from all peoples even of those of Israel who looked for him to come and saw him even as the Passover Lamb who came to give his Life of his Blood for the remission of sin.
What is the Fig Tree and what is the taking of so many prophecies of the Redeemed Yisrael and applying to the rebellious people of 2 horns and 10 horns and the nations of that Fig Tree where it has put on leaves and is where the Eagles are gathered with that dead carcass. The messiah having those words are very strong to keep his people who hear his voice from the LIE of the Strong Delusion. Who has cast off the Yoke of his Brother, called Esau and what league is with him? But is is in the end and then the vengeance will be seen coming in the clouds of the heavens. It is near that time now.
Gentiles are to the fullness but as in the scattering of the people of Yisrael to the second Exodus, but Yisrael was Jacob but became Yisrael, how? By receiving a new name not given by man as in the picture foretold of becoming born again and those who will be present with Messiah at that second Exodus. A great multitude already gone on out of the Dust but more to join them who are still alive in the Dust and some who will become of Spirit before that time is done.
The flesh and blood of Dust imitates the Life of the Spirit. Tney are both playing out in similitude. Only one is perfect to the 'jot' and the 'tittle'. His kingdom is not of Flesh and Blood but of Spirit and Truth of Life. Shall that great multitude of Life one day be seen? And as the Living Word will Play out the Words of his Book in perfect harmony, so shall it be.
The gentiles are the Nephilim. And yes, even they can be saved, and many will be. Quoting: ThreshingSword
I am going to say something and it might sting a bit. No Nephilim cannot be saved, but the (6th) day man which is the gentiles can be saved...
If you have done your homework you will understand what I just said..
Who are the Nepilims? Giants? How about mixed with fallen angels like you see in Gen. chapter 6 and the second influx of them are spoken of in Gen. 14:5 "Rephaims" which came about from a fallen angel named Rapha, one of the most wicked angels to ever come to earth... |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 12:01 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Little Star, who do you understand the Kenites to be?
OH, I can tell ya who they are in todays world and I can point to the scripture that defines who they were in yesterdays history..
1 Chronicles 2:55.. They all mixed with the fallen angels, and they are the seed of Satan....
(Boy did I open up on something that will get many upset..)
lol
When I mean seed of Satan, just that, they are the direct blood line of Satan. And they live today and rule the world today, ever meet one?
We have all our presie's running to one here in the US every time we need to have something special done... Quoting: Little Star
Oh yes, I do know them, and I understand exactly what you're saying. Their rule is almost up, and then the Bible says that they will bow down and lick the dust at our feet.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 12:03 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am going to say something and it might sting a bit. No Nephilim cannot be saved, but the (6th) day man which is the gentiles can be saved...
If you have done your homework you will understand what I just said..
Who are the Nepilims? Giants? How about mixed with fallen angels like you see in Gen. chapter 6 and the second influx of them are spoken of in Gen. 14:5 "Rephaims" which came about from a fallen angel named Rapha, one of the most wicked angels to ever come to earth... Quoting: Little Star
I lump all human/angel hybrids into one named category, that being the Nephilim. It's less confusing I think, for me anyway. And I do believe they can be saved, the ones that are still alive right now, not the ones that have passed away.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:06 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
The speculations and confusions of the Lawless. These things are perfectly foretold in the Law/Torah that was never done away but of his Heart of his Book in the Living Words who is the one remission of sin and of that Life given of his Blood.
Daniel 12. Outline of the Scattering to the Restoration of Power of the Holy People. Of the Redeemed.
1000/1000/500 - 1335 at 2500 - 1290 at -45/+45. To fit the timeline the +45 at Ezra/Nehemiah, the -45 at the putting forth of leaves of the Fig Tree.
Scattering to the Re-gathering of the secnod Exodus.
Jeremiah 46 / 586 BC / First Bondage 430 / Second Bondage X 6/At the X 7 the Bondservant will go free.
The witnesses of Revelation 11 are Lawful but only in Spirit and Truth that cannot be seperated for it is in the Heart of the Messiah, of his BEING.
Start with the Ten Commandments for those following them where there is Spirit and Truth of that remission of sin of an unconditional Yes to the Messiah of whose heart they still are shown in the Ark of the Covenant but more awesome in the Living Covenant of that true Ark.
YHVH Yahushua are ONE.
No Idols.
Use his NAME Yahuweh not a Baal Title.
Keep his Shalom of Shabbat not adding or taking away from the Living Shabbat. Yahushua is not a worship service but speaking of the Being as ONE with that Shabbat to do his commandments.
Love YHVH that way and then love others as loving oneself in Loving YHVH.
Honor mother and father.
No Murder.
No Adultery.
No Stealing.
No Bearing False Witness.
No Coveting.
No Lies.
Possible where there is remission of sin where the Walking is set in Yes One on One to the Messiah if one can walk in that truth as the one to do so must be born again of that Spirit and Truth where it is impossible to fail. A heart condition to strive against sin where there is forgiveness in confession and repentance before the Throne of Heaven.
If you get a chance, do a real good study on the words "Born Again".
When you really do get down to doing that, you will find that no where in the manuscripts does it say "Born Again" as referred by your words. Yes, I know what you are sharing and it is wonderful and all, so don't mis-understand what I am sharing and saying.
Born again is not born again in the scriptures which you are referring to about Born Again. In the manuscripts is says "Born from Above".
Oh my, I wonder what that means?
If you interested ask and I will tell you how to find out for yourself.
Again, I understand what you shared, I am just presenting what is in the manuscripts, nothing more or less.
So is there a differene in being Grafted into the Tree of Life where the experience is of being Born Again, Born from Above, Baptized in the Life of the Holy Spirit of the baptizer Yahushua, having eternal life by the Power of the Life that was given of the Blood of the Lamb but that Holy Spirit is the One of Being with that Great King? Word definitions mean nothing. The Meaning of the Words for the Heart, He Means Everything. His Heart is in the Meanings of Spirit of the Words. Spirit Knowing vs. proper definitions for the Knowledge of the Mind. But that Mind be Renewed by the Mind of the Messiah. Presume someone must meet the definitions of man for being of Spirit and Truth or is it of the Heart of Knowing the Messiah by His Words of Life, as in saying Faith coming from Hearing the Living Word speaking to the heart.
I understand clearly, so don't be upset with me about what I presented, and again I just told you what is in the manuscripts.
Now you state that word definitions mean nothing, right?
That is funny we have definitions for all words of every language and today "definitions mean nothing" according to you. I am not making any strife with ya, just pointing out some things for ya... mmmm k..
Now, what does the words Born from Above mean in the manuscripts where it is used in the bible as written "born again"?
Born from above means that a human is born through a womans womb and did not side step Gods plan like the Napah, fallen angels that side stepped Gods plan of everyone being born of woman and having their spiritual body put into the flesh body.
Big difference, huh? Big difference from the words Born again... huh?
Again, I am not trying to blast you with the simple words of Born again verse's Born from Above. I am just sharing what is written in the manuscripts and what it means. mmm k?
Next you will be asking me if I am born again.. lol
Sure am! More than you can know, spiritually!
Not understanding. No argument nor disagreement. But Spiritual words for the Heart to discern in Meaning above that of the knowledge of the mind. But that mind be renewed by the Mind of the Messiah.
Which is more important in the Kingdom of YHVH.
A definition to understand of mind.
A meaning to understand of heart?
Heart first the mind renewed.
The mind first, the heart confused where there is strife and argument over definitions where meanings take a back seat.
I love you too!!
Sorry for upsetting you...
No upsetting at all. The meanings for one on one with Messiah if one be given to understand. Messiah hasn't changed one 'jot' nor 'tittle' of the meanings of his heart to say of Spirit but we know to have that Shalom in him. Some to have preference in definition only of Words so similar that either way can lead to the knowing of the Heart of Messiah as in the definition given by the previous verse in John of flesh and spirit, but showing what 'born again' or 'born from above' means, but the Meaning of Experiencing that Thing did not change with either definition. See not upset but pointing out how the words can point to the experience of the Heart and how much more important is the meaning of Experience than just knowing about something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733532
Like I said before my friend, I am born of the spiritual "born again" as you want to say John said, which he did not say it the words, but did refer to being born in the body of Christ...(Which means the same as you are thinking)..
I am a Christ man, follower of YHVH or Jesus as we say in modern times, today...
I am awoken from the beginning of when we were all created in our spiritual body which was before we were born in the flesh..( I hope you can follow that and understand that)because it is truth..
We are spiritually all the same age... Did you know that?
Yes, I am spiritually awaken and "born again" and I love the Lord for saving me from the world and the deception and from the mistakes that I make...
Does that help you understand that I am agreeing with you, but I am showing you what is really written in the manuscripts, again, noting more, nothing less.. Peace, and love to ya in the Lord... |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am going to say something and it might sting a bit. No Nephilim cannot be saved, but the (6th) day man which is the gentiles can be saved...
If you have done your homework you will understand what I just said..
Who are the Nepilims? Giants? How about mixed with fallen angels like you see in Gen. chapter 6 and the second influx of them are spoken of in Gen. 14:5 "Rephaims" which came about from a fallen angel named Rapha, one of the most wicked angels to ever come to earth...
I lump all human/angel hybrids into one named category, that being the Nephilim. It's less confusing I think, for me anyway. And I do believe they can be saved, the ones that are still alive right now, not the ones that have passed away. Quoting: ThreshingSword
I understand what you are saying...
A hybrid can be saved, because a Kenite can be saved..
6th day creation "man" is the gentiles tho...
Eth HaAdam is the 8th day creation, seed line of Christ... :)
When you read it in the manuscripts you will understand the difference between the 6th day man and the 8th day man Eth HaAdam and EVE....
Hope that helps you understand where I am coming from.
OH, by the way, thanks for being patient with me.. I sometimes present stuff that offends the ave. Christian, I don't mean to either, just happens. I am all about truth, not fair tales from some church denomination or traditions of men, and or the scholar want-to-be's. lol
Some think I am too uppity... lol
I am just trying to open eyes is all so people can verify for themselves... nothing more, nothing less. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 311438
10/9/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Timing...from another perspective.
I hope you don't mind OP.
THE SEAL JUDGMENTS (tribulation)
(Described in Revelation 6:1-17 and 8:1-6, Matthew 24
and the book of Daniel and elsewhere.
1st Seal Covenant with many
A peace deal declared in Israel.
It will be a false peace.
(Rev 6:1-2) (Mat 24)
2nd Seal - War
(Rev 6:3-4) (Mat 24)
3rs Seal - Famine
(Rev 6:5-6) (Mat 24)
4th Seal - Death
(Rev 6:7-8) (Mat 24)
During the Seal Judgments, The Lord Jesus reveals
that the following event will take place; a sign.
Mathhew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of
desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the
holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
again...
2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day ((The Day of The Lord, 6th Seal)) shall not
come, except there come a falling away first, and that man
of sin be revealed, the son of perdition," "Who opposeth
and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that
is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of
God, shewing himself that he is God."
Satan, the son of perdition, the man of sin will show
himself right here on earth, and Satan will sit in the
temple where Jesus Christ will build His temple, and
deceive the entire world into thinking that this filthy
liar Satan is Jesus Christ, is God. The entire world will
believe that Satan is God and worship him above all other
things and gods of the nations of the world. It is going to
happen, and Paul warns you not to be deceived by any means.
Not by your pastor and his fly away theories, not by your
government, or even your parents.
The whole world will worship the Beast
When Satan comes as the beast he will have so much power
and authority that the whole world will marvel.
“And all the world marveled and followed the beast.”
Revelation 13:3
"Almost" everyone in the world will worship the beast.
5th Seal - Believers martyred (Rev 6:9-11)
A few people will choose to worship the Lamb instead of the
beast. Jesus is called the Lamb and Satan is called the
beast. The people who choose to worship the Lamb will have
their names written in the Lamb’s book of life. Everyone
else will worship the beast.
“All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names
have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8
6th Seal - That Day, The sign; earthquake, sun darkened
Believers are raptured. (Rev 6:12-17) (Mat 24:29-31)
Sealing of God's servants (Israel)(Rev 7:3)
The time of the gentile ends.
God turns to Israel.
7th Seal - The trumpet judgments begin (Rev 8:1-6)
God turns to Israel.
THE TRUMPET JUDGMENTS
(Described in Revelation 8:7- 9:21 and Rev 10:7)
THE BOWL JUDGMENTS (God’s wrath)
(Described in Revelation Chapter 16) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 733532
10/9/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
You cannot understand the prophecies of the end times without first understanding who the gentiles really are.
As I believe Wingedlion has said in another thread, the time of the gentiles is about to end. If you read Luke 21:24 - 32, this explains where we are at on God's timeline. Jesus said once you see all these things taking place, meaning being alive to see the end of the time of the gentiles, that very generation that sees all these things will be the generation that sees the Lord's return. There's differing interpretations on what constitutes a "generation" in the Bible, but it never defines a generation as a few years.
Who really are the gentiles? Not many people understand who they really are. Once you realize who they are, a whole lot of the Bible begins to make a heck of a lot more sense.
Who is scattered and who is re-gathered at the appointed time?
Who is Yisrael but as in who is Redeemed Yisrael?
What other could there be according to the Torah/"Law" requirements to the 'jot' and 'tittle' than those who have remission of sin by the Life of the Blood of the Lamb who is the Living Covenant foretold of?
Who are they who have come out of the nations of every race, color or creed, to be no longer called by that people they once were of but are Redeemed Yisrael grafted into the Tree of Life?
Who is the King who reigns over his People in the Land of Israel where there is none who offend and total Shalom/Peace? By the true King's definition they must be 'born again' of Spirit and Truth having been redeemed from all peoples even of those of Israel who looked for him to come and saw him even as the Passover Lamb who came to give his Life of his Blood for the remission of sin.
What is the Fig Tree and what is the taking of so many prophecies of the Redeemed Yisrael and applying to the rebellious people of 2 horns and 10 horns and the nations of that Fig Tree where it has put on leaves and is where the Eagles are gathered with that dead carcass. The messiah having those words are very strong to keep his people who hear his voice from the LIE of the Strong Delusion. Who has cast off the Yoke of his Brother, called Esau and what league is with him? But is is in the end and then the vengeance will be seen coming in the clouds of the heavens. It is near that time now.
Gentiles are to the fullness but as in the scattering of the people of Yisrael to the second Exodus, but Yisrael was Jacob but became Yisrael, how? By receiving a new name not given by man as in the picture foretold of becoming born again and those who will be present with Messiah at that second Exodus. A great multitude already gone on out of the Dust but more to join them who are still alive in the Dust and some who will become of Spirit before that time is done.
The flesh and blood of Dust imitates the Life of the Spirit. Tney are both playing out in similitude. Only one is perfect to the 'jot' and the 'tittle'. His kingdom is not of Flesh and Blood but of Spirit and Truth of Life. Shall that great multitude of Life one day be seen? And as the Living Word will Play out the Words of his Book in perfect harmony, so shall it be.
The gentiles are the Nephilim. And yes, even they can be saved, and many will be. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Nephilim are mixed not foretold as the fullness of the seed of Abraham. The fullness of the scattering of the seed of Abraham who would lose their identity in the scattering because of the curse. To renew their identity in the Lamb given for remission of sin but that one as King to bring those redeemed into the Second Exodus. Many are redeemed even of the nations and those who were the rebellious of Yisrael whose seed has mixed with the whole world. Messiah was given for the whole world but as Messiah only knows his lost sheep and will call out to each one of them. That Living Word will call to his own and when he is done the end will come of their Bondage but then the Regathering and the Restoration of all things. As lawful and perfectly given in the Heart of Messiah by those written words of Torah/"Law" that he is being. Any other than the interpretation of Messiah of that Law/Torah of his Being is Iniquity and Lawlessness. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:13 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Little Star, who do you understand the Kenites to be?
OH, I can tell ya who they are in todays world and I can point to the scripture that defines who they were in yesterdays history..
1 Chronicles 2:55.. They all mixed with the fallen angels, and they are the seed of Satan....
(Boy did I open up on something that will get many upset..)
lol
When I mean seed of Satan, just that, they are the direct blood line of Satan. And they live today and rule the world today, ever meet one?
We have all our presie's running to one here in the US every time we need to have something special done...
Oh yes, I do know them, and I understand exactly what you're saying. Their rule is almost up, and then the Bible says that they will bow down and lick the dust at our feet. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Bravo! Who are you? You have your act together and I like that... IN other words, you have done you homework.... Again, Bravo! |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 12:19 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Oh yes, I do know them, and I understand exactly what you're saying. Their rule is almost up, and then the Bible says that they will bow down and lick the dust at our feet.
Bravo! Who are you? You have your act together and I like that... IN other words, you have done you homework.... Again, Bravo! Quoting: Little Star
Oh gosh, I still have a lot to learn. lol... Wingedlion taught me a lot of this. I mean ultimately, it was the Holy Spirit, but He used Wingedlion to answer a lot of questions I had.
I'll have to look more at what you're talking about the 6th and 8th day man. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I'll pray about it. 
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 788543
10/9/2009 12:21 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am going to say something and it might sting a bit. No Nephilim cannot be saved, but the (6th) day man which is the gentiles can be saved...
If you have done your homework you will understand what I just said..
Who are the Nepilims? Giants? How about mixed with fallen angels like you see in Gen. chapter 6 and the second influx of them are spoken of in Gen. 14:5 "Rephaims" which came about from a fallen angel named Rapha, one of the most wicked angels to ever come to earth...
I lump all human/angel hybrids into one named category, that being the Nephilim. It's less confusing I think, for me anyway. And I do believe they can be saved, the ones that are still alive right now, not the ones that have passed away.
I understand what you are saying...
A hybrid can be saved, because a Kenite can be saved..
6th day creation "man" is the gentiles tho...
Eth HaAdam is the 8th day creation, seed line of Christ... :)
When you read it in the manuscripts you will understand the difference between the 6th day man and the 8th day man Eth HaAdam and EVE....
Hope that helps you understand where I am coming from.
OH, by the way, thanks for being patient with me.. I sometimes present stuff that offends the ave. Christian, I don't mean to either, just happens. I am all about truth, not fair tales from some church denomination or traditions of men, and or the scholar want-to-be's. lol
Some think I am too uppity... lol
I am just trying to open eyes is all so people can verify for themselves... nothing more, nothing less. Quoting: Little Star
May God bless you with a "big star" in Heaven, Little Star!
Thank you for your words of TRUTH! |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:22 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Timing...from another perspective.
I hope you don't mind OP.
THE SEAL JUDGMENTS (tribulation)
(Described in Revelation 6:1-17 and 8:1-6, Matthew 24
and the book of Daniel and elsewhere.
1st Seal Covenant with many
A peace deal declared in Israel.
It will be a false peace.
(Rev 6:1-2) (Mat 24)
2nd Seal - War
(Rev 6:3-4) (Mat 24)
3rs Seal - Famine
(Rev 6:5-6) (Mat 24)
4th Seal - Death
(Rev 6:7-8) (Mat 24)
During the Seal Judgments, The Lord Jesus reveals
that the following event will take place; a sign.
Mathhew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of
desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the
holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
again...
2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day ((The Day of The Lord, 6th Seal)) shall not
come, except there come a falling away first, and that man
of sin be revealed, the son of perdition," "Who opposeth
and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that
is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of
God, shewing himself that he is God."
Satan, the son of perdition, the man of sin will show
himself right here on earth, and Satan will sit in the
temple where Jesus Christ will build His temple, and
deceive the entire world into thinking that this filthy
liar Satan is Jesus Christ, is God. The entire world will
believe that Satan is God and worship him above all other
things and gods of the nations of the world. It is going to
happen, and Paul warns you not to be deceived by any means.
Not by your pastor and his fly away theories, not by your
government, or even your parents.
The whole world will worship the Beast
When Satan comes as the beast he will have so much power
and authority that the whole world will marvel.
“And all the world marveled and followed the beast.”
Revelation 13:3
"Almost" everyone in the world will worship the beast.
5th Seal - Believers martyred (Rev 6:9-11)
A few people will choose to worship the Lamb instead of the
beast. Jesus is called the Lamb and Satan is called the
beast. The people who choose to worship the Lamb will have
their names written in the Lamb’s book of life. Everyone
else will worship the beast.
“All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names
have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8
6th Seal - That Day, The sign; earthquake, sun darkened
Believers are raptured. (Rev 6:12-17) (Mat 24:29-31)
Sealing of God's servants (Israel)(Rev 7:3)
The time of the gentile ends.
God turns to Israel.
7th Seal - The trumpet judgments begin (Rev 8:1-6)
God turns to Israel.
THE TRUMPET JUDGMENTS
(Described in Revelation 8:7- 9:21 and Rev 10:7)
THE BOWL JUDGMENTS (God’s wrath)
(Described in Revelation Chapter 16) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311438
You were doing fine until you mentioned about the 6th trump and the 6th seal, and the 6th vile. I know you didn't say all of them, just pointing out something for ya...
Since Satan comes at the 666, we need to be careful on how we write our words to define the gathering back to Christ.
2 Thess. says that the man of sin must be revealed first before Christ.... Again 666 is his time frame.
And Christ told us that also. Plus Paul tells us when Christ comes if you handle on the trumps you will know when Christ comes.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52... Christ said that He had shorten Satan's time on earth, again Rev. 9:5 and 9:10 tells us the time that was shortened.
Satan comes first, then we gather back to Christ at the Last Trump which is number 7 as Paul tells ya in
1 Corinthians 15:51 and 52....
The way you presented that info it does not come out correctly in my mind (part about gathering back to Christ)... Sorry.. |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/9/2009 12:26 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Nephilim are mixed not foretold as the fullness of the seed of Abraham. The fullness of the scattering of the seed of Abraham who would lose their identity in the scattering because of the curse. To renew their identity in the Lamb given for remission of sin but that one as King to bring those redeemed into the Second Exodus. Many are redeemed even of the nations and those who were the rebellious of Yisrael whose seed has mixed with the whole world. Messiah was given for the whole world but as Messiah only knows his lost sheep and will call out to each one of them. That Living Word will call to his own and when he is done the end will come of their Bondage but then the Regathering and the Restoration of all things. As lawful and perfectly given in the Heart of Messiah by those written words of Torah/"Law" that he is being. Any other than the interpretation of Messiah of that Law/Torah of his Being is Iniquity and Lawlessness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733532
A/C, but why did Jesus call that Canaanite gentile woman a "dog" who would eat the crumbs that fall from the master's table? Jesus was referring to the "Nephilim" who will bow down and lick the dust at our feet (100% humans). And read my signature line down below about bruising their head. But yet, when we rule over them eventually, instead of them ruling over us now, shall we not show them mercy and compassion if they are truly repentant, just as God has shown us? God requires mercy, not sacrifice.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 733532
10/9/2009 12:27 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Like I said before my friend, I am born of the spiritual "born again" as you want to say John said, which he did not say it the words, but did refer to being born in the body of Christ...(Which means the same as you are thinking)..
I am a Christ man, follower of YHVH or Jesus as we say in modern times, today...
I am awoken from the beginning of when we were all created in our spiritual body which was before we were born in the flesh..( I hope you can follow that and understand that)because it is truth..
We are spiritually all the same age... Did you know that?
Yes, I am spiritually awaken and "born again" and I love the Lord for saving me from the world and the deception and from the mistakes that I make...
Does that help you understand that I am agreeing with you, but I am showing you what is really written in the manuscripts, again, noting more, nothing less.. Peace, and love to ya in the Lord... Quoting: Little Star
I know not but to give the Truth of Yahuweh, yes the breaking of the commandment to make his name of none effect by applying a title of the Lord is breaking his heart. The name of the Messiah is in Yahushua but the meaning is Yahuweh is Salvation and is not in the mind but the heart of it's meaning as He is the one Dwelling there. For it is revealing of the One who is Being of the Heart and stating from whom he came of the Father. Meaning of Heart. I know that the scriptures are stating titles the Lord and the name Jesus originating from Yahushua. You are not judged by me at all. I point out where the Heart of Messiah is and there cannot possibly be any condemnation where there is remission of sin if that is where the Walking is in the Continual Life being given from the throne of the Heavens. We are at rest in His definitions of Life and of Meanings of his Existence by his renewal of Mind and that is where reconciliation is in that communication of Heart. Shalom. Of that Agape Love where there is great fellowship and forgiveness and kindness. That being the tone but who knows that of mere written word. Good to point out that kindness and desire to represent Messiah just as he is Being. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:28 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Oh yes, I do know them, and I understand exactly what you're saying. Their rule is almost up, and then the Bible says that they will bow down and lick the dust at our feet.
Bravo! Who are you? You have your act together and I like that... IN other words, you have done you homework.... Again, Bravo!
Oh gosh, I still have a lot to learn. lol... Wingedlion taught me a lot of this. I mean ultimately, it was the Holy Spirit, but He used Wingedlion to answer a lot of questions I had.
I'll have to look more at what you're talking about the 6th and 8th day man. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I'll pray about it.
I gave you the tools to go do research on it the 6th day and th 8th day creation, by saying Adam ( 6th day man) and Eth HaAdam (8th day creation)... The key is those two words. (Adam and Eth HaAdam) I can promise you when you meet a real scholar they will be able to lead you to that info... In other words, I would hope that it excites you to try and learn to read the "manuscripts" for yourself...
I started to read them myself because of all the traditions of men and one church said this, and the next would say that, and then I would talk to some so called prophet and he would say one thing and then another one would say another thing...
So, yea, I scratch out each word myself... But I do have a mentor which read and writes 28 different languages which has helped me greatly... lol
Blessing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716745
10/9/2009 12:30 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
 Cut to the chase ...
…
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 790036
10/9/2009 12:31 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Aaron, harden the fark up |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 311438
10/9/2009 12:32 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
The way you presented that info it does not come out correctly in my mind (part about gathering back to Christ)... Sorry.. Quoting: Little Star
God Bless! |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:34 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Like I said before my friend, I am born of the spiritual "born again" as you want to say John said, which he did not say it the words, but did refer to being born in the body of Christ...(Which means the same as you are thinking)..
I am a Christ man, follower of YHVH or Jesus as we say in modern times, today...
I am awoken from the beginning of when we were all created in our spiritual body which was before we were born in the flesh..( I hope you can follow that and understand that)because it is truth..
We are spiritually all the same age... Did you know that?
Yes, I am spiritually awaken and "born again" and I love the Lord for saving me from the world and the deception and from the mistakes that I make...
Does that help you understand that I am agreeing with you, but I am showing you what is really written in the manuscripts, again, noting more, nothing less.. Peace, and love to ya in the Lord...
I know not but to give the Truth of Yahuweh, yes the breaking of the commandment to make his name of none effect by applying a title of the Lord is breaking his heart. The name of the Messiah is in Yahushua but the meaning is Yahuweh is Salvation and is not in the mind but the heart of it's meaning as He is the one Dwelling there. For it is revealing of the One who is Being of the Heart and stating from whom he came of the Father. Meaning of Heart. I know that the scriptures are stating titles the Lord and the name Jesus originating from Yahushua. You are not judged by me at all. I point out where the Heart of Messiah is and there cannot possibly be any condemnation where there is remission of sin if that is where the Walking is in the Continual Life being given from the throne of the Heavens. We are at rest in His definitions of Life and of Meanings of his Existence by his renewal of Mind and that is where reconciliation is in that communication of Heart. Shalom. Of that Agape Love where there is great fellowship and forgiveness and kindness. That being the tone but who knows that of mere written word. Good to point out that kindness and desire to represent Messiah just as he is Being. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733532
I am saved!
I understand "heart" really well.. lol
My dear new friend, I respect you very much and care for your words and do appreciate chatting with you, and I am very serious on that statement...
Now, I do want to point out that you are correct on what you have said and I agree 100%, But, when I quoted Rev. 2:17 there is more to that than you know... Sorry for having said that to you.. I am doing my best to be as gentle as I can over the net.... I sometimes offend others because I reveal too much... lol
REv. 2:17 does have a real name applied to it.... A new name written... A white stone...... It is in the bible.....
clear as day for those who ask the Lord for it...
Blessings. (It is even in the King James, had not been left out)...
Last Edited by Little Star on 10/9/2009 at 12:36 PM |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:35 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
The way you presented that info it does not come out correctly in my mind (part about gathering back to Christ)... Sorry..
God Bless!
Many blessings to you too!
I hope I do not offend.... |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/9/2009 12:39 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I assume Ron has a sight, correct?
And if so where can I go to read his work?
I don't want to say anything negative to anyone about that person, so if anyone could, would you post here on this thread his sight!
Thank you ahead of time..
blessings. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 733532
10/9/2009 12:47 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am saved!
I understand "heart" really well.. lol
My dear new friend, I respect you very much and care for your words and do appreciate chatting with you, and I am very serious on that statement...
Now, I do want to point out that you are correct on what you have said and I agree 100%, But, when I quoted Rev. 2:17 there is more to that than you know... Sorry for having said that to you.. I am doing my best to be as gentle as I can over the net.... I sometimes offend others because I reveal too much... lol
REv. 2:17 does have a real name applied to it.... A new name written... A white stone...... It is in the bible.....
clear as day for those who ask the Lord for it...
Blessings. (It is even in the King James, had not been left out)... Quoting: Little Star
But do you own the Wisdom from Above or is it freely given to all who would ask as you know? Presume a friend has not asked but is only between Messiah and his people who will stand on that Sea of Glass. A black stone or a white stone? Remission of sin and forgiveness and what is that name on the white stone meaning Yahuweh Tzadikanu? It is Yahushua but is awesome is it not if you know how it is applied to your being in the body of Messiah but to be made as fulfilled at the appointed time when it is in hand and all shall throw down their crowns before that great King. |
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