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| Country Girl nli
User ID: 791657
10/11/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Don't know what Strong's you are using but mine says this:
Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
G3507
nephelē
nef-el'-ay
From G3509; properly cloudiness, that is, (concretely) a cloud: - cloud.
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
As you can see - they ARE the same.
[ link to www.blueletterbible.org]
So are you saying one is the singular Greek and one is the plural Greek?
Also, how do you explain away the rest of the verse in Thessalonians which says "to meet the Lord in the air"? Is that supposed to be another metaphor too?
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not. |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 1:04 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
BTW, I am a WOMAN, not a man.
Little Star, if you have time today, can you please respond to my question to you about the king of the north? I believe it's on the previous page. Thank you.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
What I know is this ThreshingSword...
If I say anything against anyone who believes in the 'rapture' the way you do, I become their punching bag and am ousted from their churchie poo and denominational teachings or as I say "traditions of men."
I do not fight over scripture at all, it is a waste of time!
As I have said many many times, you can believe as you wish, I am not your judge.
I could careless if you believe in the rapture the way you do, and I know from personal experience that when I try to show the correct meaning and what is in the manuscripts about that very scripture to a "rapture" believing Christian, it is like pulling the rug or floor out from under their feet and they get very upset and defend that verse as if they wrote it themselves.
They usually hate me for it...Why?
Because they have put their trust in one verse instead of the Lord... Kind of tells ya where peoples hearts are, huh?
Furthermore, most of what you have posted is from the traditions of mens churches. And I know that will sting quite a bit, but your words have proven it to be so.. or truth.
The problem is when someone is taught the traditions of men, it is very rare that you can move them away from those traditions.
Like for an example.. Christ being born on Dec. 25th. He was not born on Dec. 25th...
Born definition! Meaning coming out of a mothers womb.
And by me saying that, I can stand toe to toe with the non-believers that say "Jesus story is the same as Horus and all the other godly little gods".
Huge mistake on their part, because they bought into the traditions of men also and use it against Christians every day of the week on glp.
I know if I tell you the correct month in which Christ was born, I would have to spend the next few hours trying to get you to the understanding of His birth month... I am not willing to put forth that much effort unless we were face to face and let me use scriptures to prove it to ya, even in the King Jame'rssss bible...lol |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 1:09 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not. Quoting: Country Girl nli 791657
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:09 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Don't know what Strong's you are using but mine says this:
Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
G3507
nephelē
nef-el'-ay
From G3509; properly cloudiness, that is, (concretely) a cloud: - cloud.
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
As you can see - they ARE the same.
[ link to www.blueletterbible.org]
So are you saying one is the singular Greek and one is the plural Greek?
Also, how do you explain away the rest of the verse in Thessalonians which says "to meet the Lord in the air"? Is that supposed to be another metaphor too?
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
I believe Country Girl, you are wasting your time. I have began to see a pattern here and it is what I posted already.
"That, when you take away the traditions of men" from Christians who lean on mans traditions, like the rapture doctrine, you are wasting your time to get them up to speed..
But you do what you feel the Holy Spirit is leading you to do..
I know I am quite done with this person... Everything is a battle with this person, not just with us two, but as you go back through the thread, you see the same with everyone from this persons point of view.. |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 1:12 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
What I know is this ThreshingSword...
If I say anything against anyone who believes in the 'rapture' the way you do, I become their punching bag and am ousted from their churchie poo and denominational teachings or as I say "traditions of men."
I do not fight over scripture at all, it is a waste of time!
As I have said many many times, you can believe as you wish, I am not your judge.
I could careless if you believe in the rapture the way you do, and I know from personal experience that when I try to show the correct meaning and what is in the manuscripts about that very scripture to a "rapture" believing Christian, it is like pulling the rug or floor out from under their feet and they get very upset and defend that verse as if they wrote it themselves.
They usually hate me for it...Why?
Because they have put their trust in one verse instead of the Lord... Kind of tells ya where peoples hearts are, huh?
Furthermore, most of what you have posted is from the traditions of mens churches. And I know that will sting quite a bit, but your words have proven it to be so.. or truth.
The problem is when someone is taught the traditions of men, it is very rare that you can move them away from those traditions.
Like for an example.. Christ being born on Dec. 25th. He was not born on Dec. 25th...
Born definition! Meaning coming out of a mothers womb.
And by me saying that, I can stand toe to toe with the non-believers that say "Jesus story is the same as Horus and all the other godly little gods".
Huge mistake on their part, because they bought into the traditions of men also and use it against Christians every day of the week on glp.
I know if I tell you the correct month in which Christ was born, I would have to spend the next few hours trying to get you to the understanding of His birth month... I am not willing to put forth that much effort unless we were face to face and let me use scriptures to prove it to ya, even in the King Jame'rssss bible...lol Quoting: Little Star
Listen, I don't like to use the word "rapture" because of all the false doctrine surrounding it. I like to refer to it as the Lord's 2nd coming. Please tell me what you believe "to meet the Lord in the air" refers to, then, if you don't think it is a literal event.
I know the Christ wasn't born on Dec. 25. He is a libra, if I'm not mistaken. You're preaching to the choir there. Lol.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:12 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
BTW, I am a WOMAN, not a man.
Little Star, if you have time today, can you please respond to my question to you about the king of the north? I believe it's on the previous page. Thank you. Quoting: ThreshingSword
I guess I don't have time for you any more. I gave the correct info and it is up to you to find what I said to be truth or not truth.
I would answer your question, but I gave a few questions, and not one of them were answered, like the word Massora...
Sorry for thinking you might be a man, for many think I am a woman by the usage of the avatar name "little star".
By the way did you get that little tid-bit of understanding or did that go over your head too when I shared why I chose little star as my avatar name?
Blessings to you, and keep studding the Word... I do daily! |
| Lotus Feet 
The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law
User ID: 776324
10/11/2009 1:13 PM
 | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too. Quoting: ThreshingSword
LOL
HAND OF GOD COMES THROUGH THE CLOUDS....
[link to academysounds.blogspot.com]
"The purified righteous man has become a coin of the Lord, and has the impress of his King stamped upon him." Clement of Alexandria
Lotus
"Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
THE CHRIST VISION
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com] |
| CountryGirl
User ID: 791657
10/11/2009 1:15 PM
 | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Threshing Sword, can you count?
What comes first 6 or 7?
You see - antichrist (aka Satan) comes on the 6th trump.
Our Lord comes at the 7th trump.
Now how can we possible be raptured out of here before 'tribulation' if Jesus does not return till after Satan and his 'tribulation' has arrived?
Think about it.
Rest in the Lord, for He is love.
Rest in the Lord, for He is wisdom.
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:15 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Air is not up in the air clouds; "air" is your spiritual body, just like Paul teaches ya, but somehow you don't get it..
Last trump we shall all be changed into "What, hot air?"
No into our spiritual bodies. Again, Paul is using slang words for the place of word spiritual bodies...
You teach it for her Country Girl, I am a bit frustrated right now.. I need to back off... |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:21 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
What I know is this ThreshingSword...
If I say anything against anyone who believes in the 'rapture' the way you do, I become their punching bag and am ousted from their churchie poo and denominational teachings or as I say "traditions of men."
I do not fight over scripture at all, it is a waste of time!
As I have said many many times, you can believe as you wish, I am not your judge.
I could careless if you believe in the rapture the way you do, and I know from personal experience that when I try to show the correct meaning and what is in the manuscripts about that very scripture to a "rapture" believing Christian, it is like pulling the rug or floor out from under their feet and they get very upset and defend that verse as if they wrote it themselves.
They usually hate me for it...Why?
Because they have put their trust in one verse instead of the Lord... Kind of tells ya where peoples hearts are, huh?
Furthermore, most of what you have posted is from the traditions of mens churches. And I know that will sting quite a bit, but your words have proven it to be so.. or truth.
The problem is when someone is taught the traditions of men, it is very rare that you can move them away from those traditions.
Like for an example.. Christ being born on Dec. 25th. He was not born on Dec. 25th...
Born definition! Meaning coming out of a mothers womb.
And by me saying that, I can stand toe to toe with the non-believers that say "Jesus story is the same as Horus and all the other godly little gods".
Huge mistake on their part, because they bought into the traditions of men also and use it against Christians every day of the week on glp.
I know if I tell you the correct month in which Christ was born, I would have to spend the next few hours trying to get you to the understanding of His birth month... I am not willing to put forth that much effort unless we were face to face and let me use scriptures to prove it to ya, even in the King Jame'rssss bible...lol
Listen, I don't like to use the word "rapture" because of all the false doctrine surrounding it. I like to refer to it as the Lord's 2nd coming. Please tell me what you believe "to meet the Lord in the air" refers to, then, if you don't think it is a literal event.
I know the Christ wasn't born on Dec. 25. He is a libra, if I'm not mistaken. You're preaching to the choir there. Lol. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Your question is a trick question and an open ended question. How so? (if you don't think it is a literal event.)
I never said it would not happen that we would not change from our flesh bodies and gather back to Christ in our spiritual bodies at all.
You project the image of knowing how each word is correct in your traditions, so live with them.
Yes, at the 7th trump which is the "last trump" we who do not take the Mark of the Beast will gather back to Christ. I even said in one of my upper post's that I personally believe that we will be gathered back to Christ in 1/2 day before Christ comes to earth.. In the same words as I said before.. Same time as the two witness's gather back to Christ... And then I said that I would not teach that on glp because it takes toooooooo long and too many people would be asking question after question..
Sorry! |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 1:22 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I believe Country Girl, you are wasting your time. I have began to see a pattern here and it is what I posted already.
"That, when you take away the traditions of men" from Christians who lean on mans traditions, like the rapture doctrine, you are wasting your time to get them up to speed..
But you do what you feel the Holy Spirit is leading you to do..
I know I am quite done with this person... Everything is a battle with this person, not just with us two, but as you go back through the thread, you see the same with everyone from this persons point of view.. Quoting: Little Star
Isn't that kind of hypocritical of you? You believe you're right in your point of views, and you have allowed for NO correction on your part. I, however, have been at least open to listen to other points of view, not assuming that I am 100% right on everything and asking for people to prove me wrong. Then, when I call you out on what I believe to be erroneous teaching on your part, you lash out at me and say that you are done with me instead of showing me the answer like any patient Christian would do.
You know, I'm highly suspicious of you now, especially since you have failed to debate me concerning the NWO and the king of the south. You sure are promoting that NWO, aren't you? Why is that, when the Bible clearly says it will be destroyed well before the Lord's 2nd coming? I'll tell you this, you are one smart cookie and well studied, but I don't trust you at all now.
Also, you never asked me about what Massorah means. That question was directed to someone else.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| CountryGirl
User ID: 791657
10/11/2009 1:22 PM
| | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Don't know what Strong's you are using but mine says this:
Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
G3507
nephelē
nef-el'-ay
From G3509; properly cloudiness, that is, (concretely) a cloud: - cloud.
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
As you can see - they ARE the same.
[ link to www.blueletterbible.org]
So are you saying one is the singular Greek and one is the plural Greek?
Also, how do you explain away the rest of the verse in Thessalonians which says "to meet the Lord in the air"? Is that supposed to be another metaphor too?
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
I believe Country Girl, you are wasting your time. I have began to see a pattern here and it is what I posted already.
"That, when you take away the traditions of men" from Christians who lean on mans traditions, like the rapture doctrine, you are wasting your time to get them up to speed..
But you do what you feel the Holy Spirit is leading you to do..
I know I am quite done with this person... Everything is a battle with this person, not just with us two, but as you go back through the thread, you see the same with everyone from this persons point of view..
I know what you mean but as a former rapture believer, I feel compelled to point out a few of the holes in that doctrine.
I know how hard it is to let go of something you have been
taught all your life, as truth.
I feel that if i could see the truth maybe someone else can too.
Rest in the Lord, for He is love.
Rest in the Lord, for He is wisdom.
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:23 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too.
Quoting: ThreshingSword
NO, I did not say they would be copper in color, I said as the manuscripts say about Ezekiel that they would be "Highly polished Bronze" in color.. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:26 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Don't know what Strong's you are using but mine says this:
Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
G3507
nephelē
nef-el'-ay
From G3509; properly cloudiness, that is, (concretely) a cloud: - cloud.
G3509
nephos
nef'-os
Apparently a primary word; a cloud: - cloud.
As you can see - they ARE the same.
[ link to www.blueletterbible.org]
So are you saying one is the singular Greek and one is the plural Greek?
Also, how do you explain away the rest of the verse in Thessalonians which says "to meet the Lord in the air"? Is that supposed to be another metaphor too?
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
I believe Country Girl, you are wasting your time. I have began to see a pattern here and it is what I posted already.
"That, when you take away the traditions of men" from Christians who lean on mans traditions, like the rapture doctrine, you are wasting your time to get them up to speed..
But you do what you feel the Holy Spirit is leading you to do..
I know I am quite done with this person... Everything is a battle with this person, not just with us two, but as you go back through the thread, you see the same with everyone from this persons point of view..
I know what you mean but as a former rapture believer, I feel compelled to point out a few of the holes in that doctrine.
I know how hard it is to let go of something you have been
taught all your life, as truth.
I feel that if i could see the truth maybe someone else can too.
That is why I said, if the Holy Spirit leads you, continue.
I fully understand that it is something that is very hard for a rapture person to over come. What is boils down to is "fear" of Satan.
What they don't know is this>> We already have the victory!
We won spiritually already by the way of the Lord...
I speak in too of a simpler words on glp. I can't help it.
I don't have the gift of a writer where I can make things flow smoothly for everyone... Some get it and some don't. |
| sd1975
User ID: 759265
10/11/2009 1:42 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Pure blasphemy (Regarding the initial post of the thread)...shame on you! |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:49 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I believe Country Girl, you are wasting your time. I have began to see a pattern here and it is what I posted already.
"That, when you take away the traditions of men" from Christians who lean on mans traditions, like the rapture doctrine, you are wasting your time to get them up to speed..
But you do what you feel the Holy Spirit is leading you to do..
I know I am quite done with this person... Everything is a battle with this person, not just with us two, but as you go back through the thread, you see the same with everyone from this persons point of view..
Isn't that kind of hypocritical of you? You believe you're right in your point of views, and you have allowed for NO correction on your part. I, however, have been at least open to listen to other points of view, not assuming that I am 100% right on everything and asking for people to prove me wrong. Then, when I call you out on what I believe to be erroneous teaching on your part, you lash out at me and say that you are done with me instead of showing me the answer like any patient Christian would do.
You know, I'm highly suspicious of you now, especially since you have failed to debate me concerning the NWO and the king of the south. You sure are promoting that NWO, aren't you? Why is that, when the Bible clearly says it will be destroyed well before the Lord's 2nd coming? I'll tell you this, you are one smart cookie and well studied, but I don't trust you at all now.
Also, you never asked me about what Massorah means. That question was directed to someone else. Quoting: ThreshingSword
I think we are done! And yes the question was directed at you about the Massorah.... and I even kept miss-spelling it for a reason... lol I spelled it Massora.... lol
No, I don't promote the NWO at all.
And now I don't want you to put your trust into anyone as I have said over and over. Not even ME! Got that?
You are to put your trust into the Lord only.
Your words "debate" seems like a scary word for me personally. Debate is not a word that I like because when someone says "Debate" to me, it means fights...
I think you have corrected many people on this thread... Saying that from your statement above.
Your words;;;" Then, when I call you out on what I believe to be erroneous teaching on your part::::"
See the words "call me out is like a person wanting me to come out side and have a fight..."
Sorry, when it gets to that point, I step away, and I have nothing to prove to you or anyone.
I will tell ya this... I open the door for you to study for YOURSELF, not for a debate. I will never debate anyone, I only point out things that I find. Are they correct? The only way you will find out is if you go and check out where I tell you to find the answers.
Now my final statement. When ever I have anyone come to my house or invites me to their house, I tell them that when I share my information and they begin to "put their trust in me", I will warn them one time about it. I do not, and I repeat it, I do not like for anyone to put their trust in me or anyone other than the Lord. Too many people get hurt when they begin to idol someone for the info or gifts they share, even such as a football player, pastor and etc.
I did not realize that I was affecting anyone like you have presented. I am so sorry, but I am just a simple man with nothing to offer but friendship to anyone who wants it.
And I believe that if you have followed any of my sharing, I always tell people to look to the Lord only...
Now a message to OP who started this thread.
Sorry for hijacking your thread! I was hoping to talk to you some more. But I will pass now..
Country Girl.. you are a blessings to me whom ever you are.. You do a better job than I do...
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| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 1:55 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I know what you mean but as a former rapture believer, I feel compelled to point out a few of the holes in that doctrine.
I know how hard it is to let go of something you have been
taught all your life, as truth.
I feel that if i could see the truth maybe someone else can too. Quoting: CountryGirl
Thank you for your kindness and willingness to debate without frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog. The fruits of the Spirit at least show from your posts. Little Star, however, manifests the fruits of an arrogant prick. Not only towards me but towards Muzic, who seems like the sweetest person. All is well and fine with Little Star until you ask him some hard questions, and then the lashings begin. Shame on you, Little Star. I was merely trying to question you concerning your beliefs. You can agree to respectfully disagree with me without acting like a 2-year-old child
BTW, I am NOT afraid of Satan, Little Star, like you have suggested. If you had any idea of what I've been through in the last 2 years, you would not make that statement. May God forgive you, because you know not what you speak of and are using zero discernment towards me.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 1:56 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I believe Country Girl, you are wasting your time. I have began to see a pattern here and it is what I posted already.
"That, when you take away the traditions of men" from Christians who lean on mans traditions, like the rapture doctrine, you are wasting your time to get them up to speed..
But you do what you feel the Holy Spirit is leading you to do..
I know I am quite done with this person... Everything is a battle with this person, not just with us two, but as you go back through the thread, you see the same with everyone from this persons point of view..
Isn't that kind of hypocritical of you? You believe you're right in your point of views, and you have allowed for NO correction on your part. I, however, have been at least open to listen to other points of view, not assuming that I am 100% right on everything and asking for people to prove me wrong. Then, when I call you out on what I believe to be erroneous teaching on your part, you lash out at me and say that you are done with me instead of showing me the answer like any patient Christian would do.
You know, I'm highly suspicious of you now, especially since you have failed to debate me concerning the NWO and the king of the south. You sure are promoting that NWO, aren't you? Why is that, when the Bible clearly says it will be destroyed well before the Lord's 2nd coming? I'll tell you this, you are one smart cookie and well studied, but I don't trust you at all now.
Also, you never asked me about what Massorah means. That question was directed to someone else. Quoting: ThreshingSword
PS to you... I am so humbly sorry that I have offended you.
Maybe my response to you were because of the way you asked your questions... That part also, I take responsibility for my mistakes; words and my lack of patience with you.
And I would like to end our chat with a good feeling so I had to post one more time to you.
I want to say, blessings, and may the Lord open your eyes so He can use you in the latter days.. And I hope the Lord continues to open my eyes... |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 2:06 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I know what you mean but as a former rapture believer, I feel compelled to point out a few of the holes in that doctrine.
I know how hard it is to let go of something you have been
taught all your life, as truth.
I feel that if i could see the truth maybe someone else can too.
Thank you for your kindness and willingness to debate without frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog. The fruits of the Spirit at least show from your posts. Little Star, however, manifests the fruits of an arrogant prick. Not only towards me but towards Muzic, who seems like the sweetest person. All is well and fine with Little Star until you ask him some hard questions, and then the lashings begin. Shame on you, Little Star. I was merely trying to question you concerning your beliefs. You can agree to respectfully disagree with me without acting like a 2-year-old child
BTW, I am NOT afraid of Satan, Little Star, like you have suggested. If you had any idea of what I've been through in the last 2 years, you would not make that statement. May God forgive you, because you know not what you speak of and are using zero discernment towards me. Quoting: ThreshingSword
Well you posted your words above before I was ready to move on, so again I have to respond.
Sincerely I respect your opinions and care for your thoughts, and I am not some arrogant prick and I don't mind hard questions at all. As a matter of fact, I like answering when I know questions that are given. I feel that if I can help people get up to speed on a subject, it does everyone good, not just me.
And I would like to say, How could I know what you have been through in the past two years. Isn't that like another one of your open ended questions? How could I possibly know your past two years, I don't even know what country you are from and etc. So I don't think you have been quite as fair with me as you want me to be with you.
And as far as me responding to this statement of yours" You can agree to respectfully disagree with me without acting like a 2-year-old child"............
I will not be drawn into something that is not beneficial for anyone such as your statement about me. If you have feelings about me in this way, it is okay, and I accept full responsibility for putting you in the position that you have to say "acting like a 2 year-old child".
Bible clearly tells me that when it gets to that point and I have pushed someone too fast too hard, it is my fault... And it is!
Humbly bowing out now... |
| CountryGirl
User ID: 423376
10/11/2009 2:14 PM
| | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I know what you mean but as a former rapture believer, I feel compelled to point out a few of the holes in that doctrine.
I know how hard it is to let go of something you have been
taught all your life, as truth.
I feel that if i could see the truth maybe someone else can too.
Thank you for your kindness and willingness to debate without frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog. The fruits of the Spirit at least show from your posts. Little Star, however, manifests the fruits of an arrogant prick. Not only towards me but towards Muzic, who seems like the sweetest person. All is well and fine with Little Star until you ask him some hard questions, and then the lashings begin. Shame on you, Little Star. I was merely trying to question you concerning your beliefs. You can agree to respectfully disagree with me without acting like a 2-year-old child
BTW, I am NOT afraid of Satan, Little Star, like you have suggested. If you had any idea of what I've been through in the last 2 years, you would not make that statement. May God forgive you, because you know not what you speak of and are using zero discernment towards me. Quoting: ThreshingSword
You are welcome and thank you for the 'compliment'.
But I do think you are reading Little Star all wrong.
I have been on both sides - I have not always believed as I do now.
But I had a huge desire to learn the truth and I prayed to God to give me that truth and HE did in abundance. I can even pinpoint the day it started.
I even remember many many years ago making this foolish remark when someone I was talking too did not agree with what I been taught - "That is what my church teaches and that good enough for me." - As quick as I said that, I knew it was a statement I would regret.
Soon after I began to really want to know what God had really taught in the Book and to my amazement - many of the church's teachings were totally wrong.
My point is - Little Star knows the true sayings of God and it is frustrating to him when people do not understand what he is trying to put forth.
He is not trying to 'act like a prick'.
Listen to him and learn.
Rest in the Lord, for He is love.
Rest in the Lord, for He is wisdom.
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
10/11/2009 2:28 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I know what you mean but as a former rapture believer, I feel compelled to point out a few of the holes in that doctrine.
I know how hard it is to let go of something you have been
taught all your life, as truth.
I feel that if i could see the truth maybe someone else can too.
Thank you for your kindness and willingness to debate without frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog. The fruits of the Spirit at least show from your posts. Little Star, however, manifests the fruits of an arrogant prick. Not only towards me but towards Muzic, who seems like the sweetest person. All is well and fine with Little Star until you ask him some hard questions, and then the lashings begin. Shame on you, Little Star. I was merely trying to question you concerning your beliefs. You can agree to respectfully disagree with me without acting like a 2-year-old child
BTW, I am NOT afraid of Satan, Little Star, like you have suggested. If you had any idea of what I've been through in the last 2 years, you would not make that statement. May God forgive you, because you know not what you speak of and are using zero discernment towards me.
You are welcome and thank you for the 'compliment'.
But I do think you are reading Little Star all wrong.
I have been on both sides - I have not always believed as I do now.
But I had a huge desire to learn the truth and I prayed to God to give me that truth and HE did in abundance. I can even pinpoint the day it started.
I even remember many many years ago making this foolish remark when someone I was talking too did not agree with what I been taught - "That is what my church teaches and that good enough for me." - As quick as I said that, I knew it was a statement I would regret.
Soon after I began to really want to know what God had really taught in the Book and to my amazement - many of the church's teachings were totally wrong.
My point is - Little Star knows the true sayings of God and it is frustrating to him when people do not understand what he is trying to put forth.
He is not trying to 'act like a prick'.
Listen to him and learn. Quoting: CountryGirl
I did wait Country Girl to see if she would see my real heart. And in doing so I see you posted again.
Thank you for your kind words. You know me better so it is easy for you to post good words towards me knowing my heart in what I have been doing.
God bless you, and I hope that with your words that you have given that there will be a better understanding for all Christians.
And I agree with you, we all make mistakes with others even if we don't mean too. I take full responsibility for upsetting her.
As always Country Girl, it is pure pleasure to have someone like you around who has received the full measure of truth from the Lord. What they don't know is this,, I didn't teach you a thing, you knew what I was sharing here on glp before we even chatted. They need to know that and when they see this, they will ask themselves the question of how can they both have the same knowledge without them knowing each other...?
The Lord works today, and yet few hear and see His love.
Again Country Girl you are a huge blessing to me personally. I don't get to chat with a sealed person very often and it could be months before I meet another sealed person such as yourself. You know what I mean by sealed too! We are nothing special, but the Lord has trusted us enough to give us the fullness of His love knowing we will not abuse His love.
My wife and I can't wait to meet people like you. We have so many others that are getting sealed and it really is a gift from the Lord. "As the bible says,, there is a sealing going on, yet few will receive."""
Blessings!
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| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 2:35 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
You are welcome and thank you for the 'compliment'.
But I do think you are reading Little Star all wrong.
I have been on both sides - I have not always believed as I do now.
But I had a huge desire to learn the truth and I prayed to God to give me that truth and HE did in abundance. I can even pinpoint the day it started.
I even remember many many years ago making this foolish remark when someone I was talking too did not agree with what I been taught - "That is what my church teaches and that good enough for me." - As quick as I said that, I knew it was a statement I would regret.
Soon after I began to really want to know what God had really taught in the Book and to my amazement - many of the church's teachings were totally wrong.
My point is - Little Star knows the true sayings of God and it is frustrating to him when people do not understand what he is trying to put forth.
He is not trying to 'act like a prick'.
Listen to him and learn. Quoting: CountryGirl
Yes, it was the same for me too, and like I've always said, I have much more to learn. I grew up in Catholic church and then Assembly of God, and I had to relearn quite a few things. And no, I don't believe in a pretrib rapture either. I think there is one coming for the saints, and that is at the Lord's return.
I still don't understand why Little Star won't answer my question concerning who is the king of the south that will fight against the vile person of Daniel 11. And also my question of him saying that Satan will return being gentle and soft, but yet the verse he's alluding to says that Satan will release the spirits of the locusts from the pit and they will come to torment mankind. Do you know the answer to these questions?
Also, I have read in the past that he agrees that the NWO and Mystery Babylon are one and the same, which is what I believe. So then, I am confused as to why he believes that it won't be abolished until the Lord's return, when I read Revelations 18 and 19, it says that it will be abolished BEFORE the Lord's return. All I am trying to do is to get a grasp on what he believes and teaches. I do tend to be curious and ask a lot of questions, Little Star, and I am not trying to fight with you.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| CountryGirl
User ID: 791728
10/11/2009 3:00 PM
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You are welcome and thank you for the 'compliment'.
But I do think you are reading Little Star all wrong.
I have been on both sides - I have not always believed as I do now.
But I had a huge desire to learn the truth and I prayed to God to give me that truth and HE did in abundance. I can even pinpoint the day it started.
I even remember many many years ago making this foolish remark when someone I was talking too did not agree with what I been taught - "That is what my church teaches and that good enough for me." - As quick as I said that, I knew it was a statement I would regret.
Soon after I began to really want to know what God had really taught in the Book and to my amazement - many of the church's teachings were totally wrong.
My point is - Little Star knows the true sayings of God and it is frustrating to him when people do not understand what he is trying to put forth.
He is not trying to 'act like a prick'.
Listen to him and learn.
Yes, it was the same for me too, and like I've always said, I have much more to learn. I grew up in Catholic church and then Assembly of God, and I had to relearn quite a few things. And no, I don't believe in a pretrib rapture either. I think there is one coming for the saints, and that is at the Lord's return.
I still don't understand why Little Star won't answer my question concerning who is the king of the south that will fight against the vile person of Daniel 11. And also my question of him saying that Satan will return being gentle and soft, but yet the verse he's alluding to says that Satan will release the spirits of the locusts from the pit and they will come to torment mankind. Do you know the answer to these questions?
Also, I have read in the past that he agrees that the NWO and Mystery Babylon are one and the same, which is what I believe. So then, I am confused as to why he believes that it won't be abolished until the Lord's return, when I read Revelations 18 and 19, it says that it will be abolished BEFORE the Lord's return. All I am trying to do is to get a grasp on what he believes and teaches. I do tend to be curious and ask a lot of questions, Little Star, and I am not trying to fight with you. Quoting: ThreshingSword
>>the NWO and Mystery Babylon are one and the same,<<
I do not know that LS believes that or not but I can tell you what the Bible says:
Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Mystery Babylon is the false church set up by the 'antichrist'. It is not a country but is a part of the government system set up by the antichrist (beast) - government/church system.
>>Satan will return being gentle and soft, but yet the verse he's alluding to says that Satan will release the spirits of the locusts from the pit and they will come to torment mankind. <<
There is a place in the Bible (OT) that does say Satan/antichrist will come in 'peacefully and prosperously'. but at the moment the location of that verse escapes me. I will try to find it for you later.
It is not in Revelation. But you will note that in Rev it says AC is not allowed to hurt the 'sealed of God'.
Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
And Satan did not release the locust army - he had to be released himself. It was one of the angel. (Michael, I think)
Rest in the Lord, for He is love.
Rest in the Lord, for He is wisdom.
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| ThreshingSword
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10/11/2009 3:05 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
Ok, thank you, Country Girl. I'll read your response more fully later. I have to take a break now. 
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!
yelk3@live.com |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 6:42 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
My point is - Little Star knows the true sayings of God and it is frustrating to him when people do not understand what he is trying to put forth.
He is not trying to 'act like a prick'.
Listen to him and learn. Quoting: CountryGirl
I do enjoy, sometimes, reading Little Star's posts, but he comes across, to me, as thinking he is only one of a few people on the Earth who has this esoteric Biblical wisdom that will earn him his way into being in the first fruits of the kingdom, and woe to those who don't hold all of this secret, hidden knowledge in the Bible and don't know all of this special lingo and Massorah this and certain songs to sing, well, tough, they will be shut out. Yes, narrow is the gate and few there be that find it, but the Bible doesn't say that just because you fail to grasp all of the esoteric teachings of the Bible, that that disqualifies you from entering the kingdom of heaven. It says that whoever does the will of the Father which is in heaven will be allowed to enter. I am sorry, but I don't believe there is a man alive on Earth that knows all of the hidden things of the Bible. In fact, I don't believe that it's even possible at this time in history to understand Revelations completely. I think it is locked up until the appointed time when God decides.
There is a place in the Bible (OT) that does say Satan/antichrist will come in 'peacefully and prosperously'. but at the moment the location of that verse escapes me. I will try to find it for you later. Quoting: CountryGirl
Are you talking about Daniel 11:21?
God bless, and thank you for taking the time to respond to me.
And Satan did not release the locust army - he had to be released himself. It was one of the angel. (Michael, I think) Quoting: CountryGirl
I think it is Satan who releases them, and then later on it's an angel of the Lord that seals Satan in the pit for 1,000 years, if I'm not mistaken. |
| CountryGirl
User ID: 791878
10/11/2009 7:25 PM
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My point is - Little Star knows the true sayings of God and it is frustrating to him when people do not understand what he is trying to put forth.
He is not trying to 'act like a prick'.
Listen to him and learn.
I do enjoy, sometimes, reading Little Star's posts, but he comes across, to me, as thinking he is only one of a few people on the Earth who has this esoteric Biblical wisdom that will earn him his way into being in the first fruits of the kingdom, and woe to those who don't hold all of this secret, hidden knowledge in the Bible and don't know all of this special lingo and Massorah this and certain songs to sing, well, tough, they will be shut out. Yes, narrow is the gate and few there be that find it, but the Bible doesn't say that just because you fail to grasp all of the esoteric teachings of the Bible, that that disqualifies you from entering the kingdom of heaven. It says that whoever does the will of the Father which is in heaven will be allowed to enter. I am sorry, but I don't believe there is a man alive on Earth that knows all of the hidden things of the Bible. In fact, I don't believe that it's even possible at this time in history to understand Revelations completely. I think it is locked up until the appointed time when God decides.
There is a place in the Bible (OT) that does say Satan/antichrist will come in 'peacefully and prosperously'. but at the moment the location of that verse escapes me. I will try to find it for you later.
Are you talking about Daniel 11:21?
God bless, and thank you for taking the time to respond to me.
And Satan did not release the locust army - he had to be released himself. It was one of the angel. (Michael, I think)
I think it is Satan who releases them, and then later on it's an angel of the Lord that seals Satan in the pit for 1,000 years, if I'm not mistaken. Quoting: ThreshingSword 762510
The very word revelation means to reveal so I do believe it is possible and even necessary for us to understand it. I do not think it is locked at all but our understanding may be lacking.
There are some things that LS (and I) knows that is very important in the last days.
For instance - you must know who comes first - Satan at the 6th trump (disguised as an angel of light - Jesus) or the real Jesus, who does not show up till the 7th trump.
If, when Satan arrives, in all his splendor - promising peace and prosperity - many will be fooled into thinking he is Jesus when he absolutely is not.
Logic will tell you that that 6 comes before 7.
That is why a belief in rapture is very dangerous. If you are still here in the flesh and someone shows up claiming to be Jesus, you are likely to believe him. And you have lost your soul in doing so.
Yes, you may be right about Daniel. Look at the meaning of the word 'peaceably' and you will see it means peace and prosperity.
Satan is coming to fool the whole earth into thinking he is Jesus - he can not do that if he comes in killing and torturing people, as many believe.
I disagree with you on satan releasing the locust army but no biggie.
God had them locked away and I doubt he would let satan release them.
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Rest in the Lord, for He is love.
Rest in the Lord, for He is wisdom.
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
10/11/2009 7:40 PM | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
There are some things that LS (and I) knows that is very important in the last days.
For instance - you must know who comes first - Satan at the 6th trump (disguised as an angel of light - Jesus) or the real Jesus, who does not show up till the 7th trump.
If, when Satan arrives, in all his splendor - promising peace and prosperity - many will be fooled into thinking he is Jesus when he absolutely is not.
Logic will tell you that that 6 comes before 7.
That is why a belief in rapture is very dangerous. If you are still here in the flesh and someone shows up claiming to be Jesus, you are likely to believe him. And you have lost your soul in doing so. Quoting: CountryGirl
Perhaps this is why Jesus warns us in Matthew 24:
26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
and also these:
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
If I'm here at that time in history, I know I won't be trekking out to any secret place to meet someone claiming to be Jesus. The verses above plainly say that His appearance will be quite noticeable and with much fanfare, and that He will have his angels gather us.
I am reading that whole thread about Jessica Simpson's MTV house being wired and all the Satanic stuff in the music industry is all about to be exposed. It is some sick stuff. I really do believe Mystery Babylon is indeed about to fall.
Take care, my sister. Thank you for chatting with me. God bless you and your family. |
| TwinSister
User ID: 683425
10/11/2009 7:48 PM
 | | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too.
Threshing Sword, can you count?
What comes first 6 or 7?
You see - antichrist (aka Satan) comes on the 6th trump.
Our Lord comes at the 7th trump.
Now how can we possible be raptured out of here before 'tribulation' if Jesus does not return till after Satan and his 'tribulation' has arrived?
Think about it. Quoting: CountryGirl
If I may give an answer to this question?
Jesus cannot go anywhere without his body.
His body must be with him before he can return to the earth. The quickened body (transformation)will go up to meet the head.
Mingled wine and a furnished table. |
| CountryGirl
User ID: 791878
10/11/2009 8:06 PM
| | Re: Bible-Prophesy, Timing, 7th Seal, 1st Trumpet, 1,260 Days, 1290 Days, 1,335 Days | Quote |
I am not saying anything - I merely gave you the definitions straight from the Strong's concordance/dictionary.
But you are missing the point, the word 'cloud' in Hebrews is used as a slang word for (crowd or large group).
In Thessalonians, it is not.
Right, it will be a crowd or a large group, of saints and angels occupying all the "clouds," or space craft of Mt. Zion that we will go to meet in the air. If you read the whole verse, it says we will be caught up in the air with the Lord. He will snatch us up right before he pours His wrath out on an unbelieving and unrepentant world. We are not appointed to wrath, as it says. So, if I'm not mistaken, it sounds like you believe there will be no snatching up into the space craft and that the Lord will not catch us up in the air and take us with Him to armageddon. Is that right? I know you guys believe that the Lord travels in space craft. I've read it on other threads. In fact, Little Star has described them as being copper in color with symbols on them. I believe this is correct too.
Threshing Sword, can you count?
What comes first 6 or 7?
You see - antichrist (aka Satan) comes on the 6th trump.
Our Lord comes at the 7th trump.
Now how can we possible be raptured out of here before 'tribulation' if Jesus does not return till after Satan and his 'tribulation' has arrived?
Think about it.
If I may give an answer to this question?
Jesus cannot go anywhere without his body.
His body must be with him before he can return to the earth. The quickened body (transformation)will go up to meet the head. Quoting: TwinSister
>>>Jesus cannot go anywhere without his body.
His body must be with him before he can return to the earth.<<<
Where is that in the Bible?
Rest in the Lord, for He is love.
Rest in the Lord, for He is wisdom.
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
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