NEW Genetic Link to Autism Found...

I guess IBM will barcode it.

Perhaps...
or it could be mis-direction in lieu of mass vaccination...
So Doomed....

Auto immune. Mercury and Aluminum passed down from mom via her vaccines on board in addition to her own auto immune issues hidden, then further compromised by the 26 vaccines inflicted on baby. Mercury creates a firewall in the brain so that the neuro synapse cannot happen.

Last Edited by Blue Topaz on 10/08/2009 11:01 PM

I think it's autoimmune, too. I think some are genetically predisposed to the immune system attacking specific things. I just think forced overreaction of the immune system due to SO many viruses being injected at once into an immature system can cause the immune system to freak out and attack other things in the body.

Definitely auto immune...
Perhaps there is a genetic signature for further weakness.
But, I am not straying far from the vaccines inflicted upon our children.

And while we are at it,
how about later in life...
Fibromyalgia...
Lupus, etc....

Last Edited by ExhaleAeonVolts on 10/08/2009 11:14 PM

Definitely. Crohns, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Hashimotos (those are all ones in my family), type 1 diabetes, asthma. Everyone I know with an auto immune disorder has asthma, so I think asthma is auto immune, too.

They will tell you any crap you want to hear. Except the truth that vaccines cause Autism and all the rest of the problems with kids today.


[link to www.seattlepi.com]



Last updated November 4, 2008 10:39 p.m. PT
Study looks at autism, rain
Washington among states examined for possible link

By PAUL NYHAN
P-I REPORTER

For decades, researchers have struggled to find the causes of autism. This week, one group suggested a reason might be found in the rain.

Cornell University researchers said children living in rainy counties appeared to have higher reported rates of autism than those in drier areas, after analyzing data from Washington, Oregon and California.

Washington counties west of the Cascades, for example, got four times as much precipitation and had autism rates twice as high as those in the East, according to the study's co-author, Sean Nicholson.

In rain-soaked Seattle, some parents saw these findings as yet another piece in a complicated puzzle. There is no known cause of autism and no established cure.

Well, maybe if the rain stats are true, it could be vitamin D related. And maybe D deficiency allows the immune system to respond differently.

I feel it's got to be a modern chemical causation. I'm not so sure it's all Thimerosol and amalgam dentistry. Aluminum is an interesting thought particularly in tandem. Thimerosol (didn't spell check it) is an organic mercury which are generally considered extremely toxic. It would be interesting to wait on the vaccinations until age 5 and see if the autism rate changed. I certainly didn't want my kids to be vaccinated before their first birthday.

That's exactly what this is. They are also covering up the fact that this is an EPIgenetic problem. Parents of autistic children were themselves epigenetically damaged by vaccines and junky diet. Parents who are nutrient deficient are more likely to have an autistic kid. The deficiencies get passed through the generations until disease results and the bloodline ENDS.

Autism is NEURODENGERATION. MOST of the vaccine ingredients cause inflammation and have a neurodegenerative effect (which is why kids get sick and have symptoms like diarreah sometimes after vaccination). So thimerisol is an obvious culprit, but not the only one.

Does this make sense to anyone?

[link to www.grc.nia.nih.gov]

Toxicity induced miasms passed on via genetic memory?

Autism is vaccine related there is enough evidence to this but it is brushed aside.

but about this mutation stuff its intresting that they picked Utah to do these tests and its intresting because didnt they do lots of above ground nuke tests there.

we didn't have autism prior to vaccines.
Take a look at the amish or hutterites no autism there, now why do you think that is

People with Autism's symptoms have been described throughout the centuries , so I doubt the cause is from modern life


People often claim that Autism is a new disease , but its just a new diagnosis , before the 20th century people with autism were merely labeled "Imbeciles" and hidden away from view.

Research is pointing to a potential cause in that everybody with Schizophrenia and Autism tests positive for antibodies to a disease carried by the common household cat.

The disease is considered to be harmless to humans but researchers theorize that some people MAY have a defect in their immune systems that is triggered by this disease.

Well I thought in general asthma was a swelling of the airways. That generally sounds like an overactive autoimmune system. But diabetes? do you have a reference for the autoimmune system shutting down the pancreas? I always thought that it was caused by the massive shift to sweets (HFCS in particular) from a largely more meat, fat, and greens diet over the millennia.

No it was mostly upwind in Nevada that the were blowing up the nukes- Utah's breast cancer rate was/is more than 3 times the national average....

I forgot add in the swelling/autoimmune post that it's an interesting thought to think that it's some sort of swelling caused by a ?failure in the blood brain barrier? as there's not really an auto immune action going on in the brain as there's no blood right?

Type 2 diabetes is caused by diet. Type 1 is when the pancreas just quits producing insulin. One man I know was diagnosed in his early 20's after having a couple of viruses in a row. Here...I found this:

"Type 1 diabetes usually develops due to an autoimmune disorder. This is when the body's immune system behaves inappropriately and starts seeing one of its own tissues as foreign. In the case of type 1 diabetes, the islet cells of the pancreas that produce insulin are seen as the "enemy" by mistake. The body then creates antibodies to fight the "foreign" tissue and destroys the islet cells' ability to produce insulin. The lack of sufficient insulin thereby results in diabetes. It is unknown why this autoimmune diabetes develops. Most often it is a genetic tendency. Sometimes it follows a viral infection such as mumps, rubella, cytomegalovirus, measles, influenza, encephalitis, polio, or Epstein-Barr virus. Certain people are more genetically prone to this happening although why this occurs is not know. Thus, two people may be infected with the same virus and only one of them who is genetically prone will go on to develop diabetes. Other less common (very rare) causes of type 1 diabetes include injury to the pancreas from toxins, trauma, or after the surgical removal of the majority (or all) of the pancreas." [link to www.endocrineweb.com]

Whoa wasn't familiar with miasms. But was already thinking epi-genetics. Thanks for the tip. Homeopathy is my own personal conundrum as I've seen/had it work many times and many years of schooling tells me that it can only be placebo unless you start to get in to some really advanced quantum theory (like the guy that was flash freezing water under prayer versus the beatles song helter skelter... now show with math and apply to homeopathy). Anyway I'll be reading on miasms.

But I will start with that autism, asthma, and paracetamol (Tylenol) - we're the only country that calls it acetaminophen. A really harsh drug, and I'm not so sure that it should be OTC with aspirin and vitamin I available.

Thanks for the thoughts folks.

So, does the Tylenol thing make sense to you? I was given Tylenol by the nurse when my kids got their first vax. After that I gave it to them after every vax for like the next 2 days. :( My oldest has asthma.

Wow that's a killer article. I understand it pretty well(I lack a little in the specific genes and molecular bio). It's a very good proposal to fund an actual study to see if there's a link between acetaminophen and Autism (and Vaccines). It's just a hypothesis with no more than a small parent survey to back it up.
It's a grant proposal basically, with bookmarks to a hundred articles on the subject of inflammation, inflammation genetics, inflammation diseases and people studies.

I would say to fund the study for autism, asthma, diabetes, that thyroid inflammation thing above (only thing not really mentioned in the article, but probably not thought about by the authors), chrons- bowel inflammation was mentioned in autism, rheumatoid was mentioned in the references too. It makes me want to go look at the Reye's syndrome stuff as I'm an aspirin fan in my adult life, but only for headaches. They really string a lot of pieces together. I'd like to see the numbers in this study although it's admittedly small (what's small 50 or 250?).
[63] Schultz ST, Klonoff-Cohen HS, Wingard DL, Akshoomoff NA, Macera CA, Ji M.
Acetaminophen (paracetamol) use, measles–mumps–rubella vaccination, and
autistic disorder: the results of a parent survey. Autism 2008;12(3):293–307.

There seem to be a lot of good references as to why small children, and third term preggos shouldn't be using acetaminophen on the asthma thing alone. But they write the disclaimer at the end that a lot of this is tenuous evidence. I would want to read many of the reference articles if we were more dependent on acetaminophen for our small children.

As it is I wonder why I never heard this stuff(asthma/ specifically) from a doctor because I do recall asking docs the bottle told me to consult with you about my under 2 yo on acetaminophen and they invariably reply oh here's the dosing schedule under 2. Maybe the asthma thing's still tenuous, too. It's certain that the evidence does not say a link will definitely be found here but that the link is possibility.

Rainy skies reduce our ability to create the Vitamin D we need via sun exposure. Perhaps there's a link between low Vitamin D and autism? There's certainly a link between nutrition and autism...many autistics respond positively to glute-free diets and diets free of chemicals and/or genetic modification.

>>so I think asthma is auto immune, too.


a little off topic but my dad had asthma (still does), i had it pretty bad as a kid,

when i left the house at 18 and started smoking mildly (it went away completely, as did my bad acne),

i can jog three miles, haven't had an asthma attack since i was a kid, and can smoke half a pack of cigarretes..

my dad never smoked a cigarrete in his life, is 65 and still has asthma.

don't know how much pscyhosomatic/smoking/etc had to do with it?

or maybe i just no longer believed in it.



and back on topic.

i agree with exhale - misdirection on the autism gene thing.

two years from now when we see cases explode, they'll say some mumbo jumbo about that genetic marker has multiplied amongst the gene pool or some shite like that.

They always claim so and so is caused by genetics. They have no proof for any of it.

I was reading through this site which said they got some fall out from the tests..
[link to www.radiationcontrol.utah.gov]

But the blood brain barrier hmm back to vaccines then.. some use something called Tween80 something like that might have spelled it wrong but its used to scoot things across the blood brain barrier

That NIH article certainly has reference to inflammatory metabolites in the cerebral fluid of Autism patients. I had no idea but it's certainly suggestive that Autism is an auto immune problem with a decent chance of being related to acetaminophen with a possible link to vaccines.

Actually, autism did not rear its ugly head until vaccines were instituted. That comes from documented research. However, we saw and read alot of kids who were brain damaged in earlier civilizations from probably a myriad of influences, poor hygiene, toxins, disease uncontrolled and no cures, living in dirt ( has alot of arsenic in there as well as aluminum), poor utensils containing lead, list is long.

This thread is developing into an intelligent conversation. I agree with most. We treat patients holistically and nutritionally with organic pure whole food nutrients to combat the toxic influence, the mercury build up etc. Just recently saw some change with an autistic child ( 5 yrs ) who tested for ProDHA ( an antartic fish oil that contains the omegas) It calms him, helps him sleep and allows more focus and eye contact. Alot of work to do with an autistic who has 5 yrs under his belt. We prefer the babies and young ones. Faster work is done.

Think of this. Think of all the soldiers who went to Vietnam, then Gulf War and Iraq who were exposed to depleted Uranium and gawd knows what else, and had babies with their loved ones later. Terrifying.

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Actually Type 2 diabetes is due to the cell receptors not functioning properly so it takes a HIGHER amount of insulin to get the sugars into the cells. Blood work of a type 2 will show a higher amount of sugar AND insulin in their blood stream.

Type 1 diabetes is the result of the body treating the islet cells (responsible for making insulin) in the pancreas as an allergen and islet cells are the only cells in the body that don't reproduce (so said my daughter's endocrinologist). That's why type 1 was called juvenile or brittle.

I don't have any websites to list but I've lived for 29 yrs with members of my family that are diabetic including my husband and 15 yr old daughter.