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Astrology and the Bible
The Bible on the Heavens!
by Kelly Lee Phipps
“How can you believe in astrology?” my devout Christian friends have asked me. I tell them, “Astrology is not a belief system, but an archetypal, poetic language. I don’t ask you if you ‘believe’ in Japanese. I ask if you speak it. I don’t ask you if you ‘believe’ in music, I ask if you play it. I happen to speak the heavenly tongue of astrology along with thousands of other highly intelligent, inspiring, spiritual, and even scientific astrologers.”
Their skepticism persists due to what they’ve been taught about the Bible and so I decide to go into their home field and initiate the conversation about Biblical insights into astrology, one of my favorite topics.
“The Bible totally supports the practice of astrology,” I boldly claim staring into horrified eyes.
“That’s crazy,” they say. “Astrology is the work of the Devil. You don’t need the stars to direct your life, you just need Jesus.”
“But, even Jesus respected the wisdom of the heavens,” I say. “Let me see your Bible. I’ll show you proof that astrology is a divinely bestowed gift to humanity.” I open to the Psalms and begin reading verse 19:1-3, “The heavens declare the glory of God. The skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech. Night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard.”
“That sounds to me like the heavens are supposed to speak, to declare insights, reveal knowledge, and that no language even exists that does not contain the voice of the heavens.”
“Okay, so one Psalm by King David says the heavens speak. God can speak through anything: people, places, events. It doesn’t mean we have to govern our lives by the stars.”
“But, it does indicate that we can have a conversation with eternal being through the motions of the heavens. The Bible speaks clearly about the purpose of the sun, moon, and stars.” I open to Genesis 1:14-18. “And God said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.”
“There you have it. Even in the King James Version. When I interpret charts I illuminate for clients their potential, both shadow and light, to help them accept their whole being and to help them live the full expression of their gifts. We also probe and improve on their weaknesses. When I look at the transits and progressions, I explain the qualities and potential of the seasons, days and years, giving guidance based on the motions and cycles of heavenly bodies reflecting psychological states and the flow of events. My aim is not to predict the future, but to help people live more fully in the present, navigating the currents of life with skill. We all have heard that to everything under the sun there is a season (Ecclesiastes 3:1-10). In Psalms 104:19 it says, ‘The moon marks off the seasons, and the sun knows when to set.’ When I read a chart, whether it’s for a person, city, nation, or event, I am using the heavens as the Bible says, to read the signs.”
“Wow,” the person says, still dismayed by my intense faith in astrology. “That’s interesting.”
“That’s just the beginning,” I continue. “Let’s see how deep the rabbit hole goes. My study of astrology has given vital proof of divine intelligence behind the universe.”
In Job, God asked his humble servant a series of questions involving the wondrous miracles performed. In Job 38:31-33, God asks, “Can you bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades or loose the bonds of Orion? Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth in their seasons? Or can you guide Arcturus with his sons? Do you know the principles of the heavens? Can you set their dominion over the earth?”
Thus, God is proclaiming that there are principles in the heavens and that they govern life on earth. Furthermore, God is responsible for bringing forth the Mazzaroth in their seasons. Most Bibles avoid translating this sacred word, ‘Mazzaroth’, because it literally means, ‘the twelve signs of the zodiac’, in Hebrew. So, God created the zodiac and brings them forth in their seasons. He explains that heavenly constellations like the Pleiades and Orion have ‘influences’ that can be unleashed.
We don’t have to be afraid of signs from the heavens. God speaks through them. In Judges 5:20 it describes the ‘stars’ in battle, “They fought from the heaven. The stars in their courses fought against Ciceria.” In Jeremiah 10:2 it says, “…do not be dismayed by signs from heaven.” We need to be open to the realization of messages in the heavens. In Psalms 136:7-9, it says, “Who made the great lights? His love endures forever; the sun to govern the day, the moon and stars to govern the night.” In Psalms 147:3-4 it says, “God heals the broken hearted and binds up their wounds. He determines the number of stars and calls them each by name.” The Hebrew word ‘shem’ means ‘name, a mark of character, individuality, honor and authority.’ Stars have all that, according to the Bible. Again, in Isaiah 40:26 we hear, “Lift your eyes on high and behold who has created these. He who brings forth the starry hosts by numbers one by one and calls them forth by character.”
In Daniel 1:20 it says, “Daniel was given divine insight by God, even the ability to understand visions and dreams. In every matter of Babylonian wisdom and understanding, they (Daniel and his friends) were ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters in the whole kingdom.” Thus, the followers of the Eternal One imprisoned in a land of astrologers cultivated the wisdom of the heavens that was ten times better than the average astrologer of the day.
In Psalms 89:35-37 God says, “I will not lie to David that his line will continue forever and his throne endure before me like the sun. It will be established forever like the moon, the faithful witness in the sky.” God describes the moon here as the faithful witness in the sky. In astrology the moon governs daily emotional tides and colors events and moods by its changing position.
In Job (one of the oldest Biblical texts) 26:12 it says that by, “God’s wisdom he cut Rahab to pieces.” Rahab is the ancient planet between Jupiter and Mars, which is now an asteroid field. The ancients recorded this planet in their star charts and created many myths about its mysterious destruction. The content of these stories always concerned the loss of the sacred feminine. In modern astrology we are attempting to heal this gap in consciousness by reintegrating the feminine archetypes into our work. In the original Hebrew language both the masculine and feminine archetypes are equally respected and integrated into the symbols of their language.
The Hebrew the word for light used when God says, “The sun, moon, and stars were created for giving light on the earth,” is ‘aur’. The Hebrew writers were well versed in the sacred language of archetypes. They were able to contemplate truth through symbol as each letter of their alphabet held an archetypal meaning. Aleph, the beginning letter of aur symbolizes unthinkable vibration, the sacred spirit of life, infinite potential, and eternal possibility. Vav, the middle letter, symbolizes the process of divine fertilization emanating from the creative void. Raysh, the final letter, symbolizes the hidden movement of cosmic possibility as creation. Hidden in the letters of Hebrew light we discover its deeper meaning, the infinite potential of the sacred spirit fertilizing creation.
The first line of the Bible says, “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” When you break it down into archetypal Hebrew it means, the first fruits of the spirit aspiring to express eternity through a fountain of divine wisdom were the creation of the celestial dimensions and the manifest world. Now that casts a whole new light on Biblical translation. The Hebrew word for astrologer is 'ashaph' which breaks down to ‘the spirit communicates through the sacred flames.’
The word ‘aur’, for light, means illumination, but also radiance, happiness and joy in the original Hebrew, just as night ‘layil’ also means adversity, challenge and resistance. You hear the ancient root of light in words like aura, aurora, our own Uranus, the planet of divine intuition, and in Ur, the ancient city, of light, home of the legendary Abraham, father of the Hebrews in the land of Chaldea.
According to Berosus, a Chaldean historian and priest, in the tenth generation after the Biblical flood there was a man among the Chaldeans (astrologers) called Abram (later changed to Abraham) who mastered skill in the celestial language of the heavens.[1] Close to the beginning of the Age of Aries, two millennia before Christ, God called Abraham to migrate west to start the Hebrew civilization.
The Old Testament, from which I’ve been quoting, describes the Age of Aries from the perspective of the Hebrews. Terah, who was the father of Abraham, left Ur at that time. Ur was a flourishing port city, a center for trade between India and Egypt. To symbolize the Age, Abraham sacrificed God’s provision, the ram. Across the world, bull sacrifices from the Age of Taurus were giving way to ram sacrifices as the equinoxes processed and the quality of times changed. God became known as Jehovah, the warrior God, as Aries exemplifies the archetype of the warrior, pioneer, and leader. It was a militant age of sacred ram veneration.
Abraham was a wise spiritual seeker, but also a brave warrior. Moses later became another fiery leader of this Age. They both studied the ancient sciences of the Egyptians and understood that the twelve signs of the Mazzaroth were the immortal thoughts of God that penetrate creation. The twelve tribes of Israel (Abraham’s grandson) are associated with the twelve signs of the zodiac. According to Jewish astrologers, the Hebrews accepted Deuteronomy 32:8 as proof of the fact that people are divided into twelve distinct personality types. It says, “When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the boundaries of the people according to the number of the tribes of Israel. In astrology twelve archetypal forces divide people.
The characteristics of the twelve tribes were given both by Jacob in Genesis 49 when he blesses his sons and again in Deuteronomy 33 when Moses blesses the tribes. They correspond to the basic meanings of the twelve signs used today. God ordered Moses to have the twelve tribes camp around the holy tabernacle in the exact order of the zodiac with the entrance to the temple facing east. The four gateways to the camp were Judea, Rueben, Ephraim, and Dan. These four tribes correspond to the exact description in Ezekiel and Revelations of the four living creatures before the throne of God, which were the lion, the bull, the man, and the eagle. These four ancient symbols correspond to our own astrological signs of Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio which contain the four royal stars of Persia, Regulus in Leo, Aldebaran in Taurus, Formalhaut in Aquarius, Antares in Scorpio.[2] God even directs Moses to have the tribes march through the desert starting with Judea (Leo) and going backwards towards the camps of Rueben (Taurus), Ephraim (Aquarius) and Dan (Scorpio). This is the exact motion of the equinoctial precession that gives rise to the flow of the astrological ages, a 26,000-year cycle.
Moses, like Joseph, was well versed in Egyptian astrology. As the adopted son of pharaoh’s daughter he was well educated in all the mystery school wisdom of Egypt. The Hebrew word for Egypt is ‘mitsuri’, the land of mystery. In Acts 7:22 it says, “Moses was trained in all the wisdom of the Egyptians and was powerful in speech and action.” He was the perfect warrior prophet for the Arian age.
Aaron’s breastplate was set with twelve sacred stones each symbolizing a Hebrew tribe, and thus, a zodiac sign. Joshua 4:6 says, “God is remembered by twelve stones in a circle.” The Hebrews created elaborate rituals based on a lunar calendar. In astrology new moons symbolize beginnings and the sacred feast of Israel instituted by God’s commands to Moses through visions, were based on the phases of the moon. The day of the new moon was a day of feasting and blowing trumpets (Numbers 10:10). Psalms 81:3 says, “Sound the ram’s horn at the new moon, and when the moon is full, on the day of our feast.” The seventh new moon was the time of the holy convocation feast and the full moon of this month was the Feast of Tabernacles to celebrate harvest. The seventh sign in astrology is Libra, symbolizing balance and love, and the full moon symbolizes illumination, vision and fulfillment, the time when emotional response is highest. Passover was observed from the full moon to the waning quarter, a period symbolic of illumination and the dissemination of truth.
The Age of Aries gradually gave way to the next sign of the zodiac, Pisces, the archetype of universal love and compassion through selfless service. The three Chaldean Magi followed the star across the Arabian Desert in search of the incoming spiritual master of love. Three astrologers utilized the language of the heavens to discover the long-prophesized Hebrew Messiah. Modern research has revealed that Jesus may have been born closer to 7 BCE around the time of the Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus triple-conjunction in Pisces. Every astrologer inspired to research the illusive chart of Christ has a pet theory as to the exact birth date. My own research lead me to conclude that he was born on September 16, 7 BCE around midnight in Bethlehem. In any case, the ultimate spiritual mystic arrived to teach the Way as High Priest of the Order of the Melchizedek (as the Bible refers to him in Hebrews 6:20).
Jesus embodied the Piscean archetype, linking the first sign Aries with the last sign Pisces, the alpha with the omega, starting not just one new age, but a whole cycle of twelve ages. People began spiritually cleansing themselves through the baptismal rites, as Pisces is a water element sign. Suddenly, water was sacred (as opposed to fire) and the fish became holy. Early Christians would identify themselves by drawing the sign of Pisces in the sand. Jesus spoke often of the age of his birth as a preparation age for the Age of Enlightenment to follow. He was referring to the Age of Aquarius that is symbolized by the cosmic man bearing the pitcher of the living waters of life, pouring it throughout the universe. At Jesus’ first Jupiter return (age 12) he began instructing the Priests at the temple, saying to his parents, “Let me be about my work.” After his first Saturn return (age 30) he became intensely devoted to teaching and demonstrating the way of unconditional love. He selected twelve disciples each with a character similar to one of the twelve signs. At the Last Supper Jesus washed the feet of the disciples. In astrology each sign governs a part of the body. Pisces symbolizes the feet.
The Bible is strangely silent on the so-called ‘lost years of Jesus’ between ages 12 and 30. Some sources like The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus[3], channeled by a Christian minister at the dawn of the 20th century, tells a marvelous story about how Jesus journeyed throughout Persia, India, Greece and Egypt walking all paths of life. The Christian’s maintain that he stayed home and humbly served as a carpenter all his life until he got the call to begin his ministry.
The New Testament is full of clues and insights that point to Jesus’ respect and reverence for astrology. The most obvious quote is Luke 21:25 when he says, “At the end of this Age there will be signs in the sun, moon and stars…the heavenly bodies will be shaken (lit. the heavenly forces will be agitated).” It’s in the red print. Jesus said it. He tells his twelve disciples that the age to come will be foreshadowed by signs in the heavens. That is what God said they were supposed to be used for. Signs give directions and guidance to help us navigate life.
The Age of Aquarius is surely on the rise! Astronomically, the Aries Ingress won’t reach the first stars of Aquarius until around 2376 CE, but the symbols of Aquarius are actually alive in the imaginations of the people. Ever since the discovery of Uranus in 1781 the world has been struggling for freedom, independence and human rights in addition to great inventions and advances in science. In the year 2080 Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus will align in the sign of Aquarius similarly to the Piscean configuration of 7 BCE. On the solstice of 2020 Jupiter and Saturn will conjunct in Aquarius. The times are ripe for a new dispensation focused on creative originality, cosmic vision and universal awareness. The next time your religious friends start bad-mouthing the celestial language of astrology you’ll be armed with Biblical insight.
Astrology asks for a realization of our connection to space, divine being, and the process of eternal change. As an intuitive, symbolic language, and art of celestial cycles, it not only helps you navigate change, but also teaches you to tap your creative potential. Most people think astrology is about predicting the future, but really it is about diving into the unknown and living the mystery each day. Astrology opens the gateway within so you can discover the sacred silence and encounter the archetypes of creation. This unified spectrum of twelve images symbolizes the image of eternal being.
[1] The First Astrologer. Fielden, Fran. Better Books. Charlotte, NC. 1988.
[2] Brady’s Book of Fixed Stars. Brady, Bernadette. Samuel Weiser, Inc. 1998.
[3] The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ. Dowling, Levy. DeVorss And Company. Marina del Rey, CA. 1907.
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/8/2009 11:49 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Nice Post. Ty |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/8/2009 11:50 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
You're Welcome AC 774946; glad you enjoyed. :) |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 12:01 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 12:08 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
you are taking scripture and interpreting them in a way that is contradictory to other scripture which are plain. heavens declare the glory of the Lord because He created them. just like if u make a beautiful painting it is a representation of ur creativity, knowledge and gift of painting.
bible is clear All forms of divination are to be rejected |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 12:10 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
by the way..
any thread is not complete without one anyways |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 12:11 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
AC 431716, I did not write this article, but thought it worthy of sharing. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 12:12 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
AC 431716, please save your BS flag for a post worthy of it; just because this post causes you for a moment to 'think outside of the box' does not make it BS. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 12:13 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
By the way AC 431716 . . . astrology is NOT divination. Please do get your definitions 'straight' before pointing fingers. |
| Anonymous Coward
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| Anonymous Coward
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 1:11 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
By the way AC 431716 . . . astrology is NOT divination. Please do get your definitions 'straight' before pointing fingers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711844
Divination attempts to foretell the future, acquire esoteric knowledge (et al), via whatever means.
Astrology is a form of divination: Astrologers aren't just admiring the sky, and they're not astronomers (engaged in scientific sudy). If astrologers didn't engage in divination, the general public wouldn't give a hoot about astrology. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 1:17 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
wOlf in sheeps clothing
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 1:25 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Astrology is a SCAM.
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/9/2009 1:29 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Excellent post, OP.
Astrology is an amazing tool; too bad it's been reduced to newspaper/magazine horoscopes for those who haven't looked at it in depth.
It's no more a "wolf in sheep's clothing" than science is. lol |
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10/9/2009 1:29 AM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
By the way AC 431716 . . . astrology is NOT divination. Please do get your definitions 'straight' before pointing fingers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711844
it is well know that astrology is divination. u need to learn to critically think and apply definitions correctly
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]
Forms of divination
aeromancy
1. the art or science of divination by means of the air or winds.
2. Humorous. weather forecasting. Cf. austromancy.
alectoromancy, alectryomancy
a form of divination by recording the letters revealed as a cock eats kernels of corn that cover them.
aleuromancy
an old form of divination using meal or flour. — aleuromantic, adj.
alomancy
halomancy.
alphitomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of barley.
ambulomancy
a form of divination involving walking, usually in circles. Cf. gyromancy.
amniomancy
a form of divination by examining the embryonic sac or amniotic fluid.
anthracomancy
the art of divination through the study of burning coals. — anthracomantic, adj.
anthropomancy
a form of divination using the entrails of dead men. — anthropomantist, n. — anthropomantic, adj.
arithmancy
numerology.
armomancy
a form of divination involving the shoulders of animals. Cf. spatulamancy.
aspidomancy
a form of divination involving examination of a shield.
astragalomancy
a form of divination involving dice or knuckle-bones, in which letters are marked on the faces of the dice and the future is foretold from the words formed as the dice fall. Also called cleromancy.
astrology
a form of divination involving the relative positions of heavenly bodies. Also called genethlialogy, genethliacs.
astromancy
divination by observation of the stars. Also called sideromancy.
augury
1. the art of f oretelling the future by means of signs, originally by the flight of birds; divination.
2. an omen or portent from which the future is foretold. — augur, n. — augurial, adj. — augurous, adj.
austromancy
divination by observing the winds, especially the south wind. Cf. aeromancy.
axinomancy
a form of divination involving the use of an axhead. — axinomantic, adj.
belomancy
divination in which marks or words are placed on arrows which are then drawn from a quiver at random.
bibliomancy
a form of divination using books or the Bible in which passages are chosen at random and the future foretold from them.
botanomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of plants.
capnomancy
a form of divination involving smoke.
cartomancy
a form of divination involving playing cards.
catoptromancy
a form of divination involving a crystal ball or mirrors.
cephalomancy
a form of divination involving the head.
ceraunomancy
a form of divination involving thunder or thunderbolts.
ceromancy
a form of divination involving dropping melted wax into water.
chalcomancy
a form of divination involving brass vessels.
chaomancy
a form of divination involving aerial visions.
chiromancy, cheiromancy
palmistry.
chronomancy
a divination to determine the precise time for action.
cleidomancy, clidomancy
a form of divination involving a key or keys.
cleromancy
astragalomancy.
coscinomancy
a form of divination involving a sieve and shears. — coscinomantic, adj.
crithomancy
a form of divination involving the strewing of grain over the bodies of sacrificed animals. — crithomantic, adj.
crystallomancy
a form of divination involving crystal-gazing.
cubomancy
Rare. a form of divination involving thrown dice. — cubomantic, adj.
dactyliomancy
a form of divination involving finger rings.
demonomancy
a form of divination involving a demon or demons.
empyromancy
a form of divination involving a fire and smoke.
enoptromancy
a form of divination involving a mirror and its reflections.
extispicy
haruspicy. — extispex, n. — extispicious, adj.
gastromancy
1. a form of divination involving listening to stomach sounds.
2. a form of divination by gazing into a crystal ball or a glass full of water. Cf. crystallomancy. Also called crystal-gazing. — gastromantic, adj.
geloscopy, gelotoscopy
a form of divination that determines a person’s character or future from the way he laughs.
genethlialogy, genethliacs
astrology.
geomancy
a form of divination that analyzes the pattern of a handful of earth thrown down at random or of dots made at random on paper. — geomancer, n.
graphology
1. a form of divination involving analysis of handwriting. Also graptomancy.
2. a technique of personality analysis involving the examination of handwriting.
graptomancy
graphology def. 1.
gyromancy
a form of divination involving walking in a circle. Cf. ambulomancy.
halomancy
a form of divination involving the use of salt. Also called alomancy.
hariolation
the act or art of prognostication or divination; soothsaying.
haruspicy, haruspication
a form of divination from lightning and other natural phenomena, but especially from inspection of the entrails of animal sacrifices. Also called extispicy. — haruspex, n. — haruspical, adj.
hematomancy, haematomancy
divination by means of blood.
hieromancy
a form of divination involving sacrificial remains or sacred objects. Also called hieroscopy.
hippomancy
a form of divination involving the observation of horses, especially by listening to their neighing.
horoscopy
1. the art of casting horoscopes or divinations based upon the relative positions of heavenly bodies.
2. the position of the sun and stars at the time of a person’s birth. — horoscoper, horoscopist, n.
hydromancy
a form of divination involving observations of water or of other liquids.
ichnomancy
the analysis of the personality and appearance of people by studying their footprints. — ichnomantic, adj.
ichthyomancy
a form of divination involving the head or entrails of fishes.
idolomancy
a form of divination involving idols.
lampadomancy
a form of divination involving observation of the flame of a torch or lamp. Cf. lychnomancy.
lecanomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of water in a basin.
lithomancy
a form of divination involving rocks or stones.
logarithmomancy
a form of divination involving logarithms.
logomancy
a form of divination involving the observation of words and discourse.
lychnomancy
a form of divination involving lamps. Cf. lampadomancy.
manticism
the art of divination and prophecy. — mantic, adj.
mantology
Obsolete, the art of fortune-telling. — mantologist, n.
margaritomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of pearls.
meteoromancy
a form of divination involving the observation of meteors.
metopomancy
Rare. a form of divination involving examination of facial features.
molybdomancy
Rare. a form of divination by studying the motion of molten lead.
moromancy
a form of divination that is flawed or foolish.
myomancy
a form of divination through observation of the movements of mice.
necromancy
1. the magic practiced by a witch or sorcerer.
2. a form of divination through communication with the dead. Also called nigromancy. — necromancer, necromant, nigromancien, n. — necromantie, adj.
nephelognosy
divination by the observation of clouds.
nomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of letters, possibly from a graphological point of view. Cf. onomancy.
numerology
a form of divination involving numbers. Also called arithmancy.
oenomancy, oinomancy
a form of divination involving observation of the colors and other features of wine.
omoplatoscopy
a form of divination involving the examination of shoulder blades. Cf. armomancy, scapulomancy, spatulamancy.
omphalomancy
a form of divination in which the number of knots in a new-born’s umbilical cord are counted to foretell the number of children the mother will have later.
oneiromancy
a form of divination involving dreams. — oneiromancer, n.
onomancy, onomomancy
a form of divination involving the letters of a name. Cf. nomancy.
onychomancy
a form of divination involving examination of the fingernails.
oomancy
a form of divination involving eggs.
ophiomancy
a form of divination involving snakes.
ornithomancy, ornithoscopy
a form of divination involving the observation of birds, especially in flight.
osteomancy, osteomanty
divination by the examination of bones. — osteomantic, adj.
palmistry
a form of divination involving analysis of the appearance of the hand, especially of its various lines. Also called chiromancy, cheiromancy.
pedomancy
a form of divination involving the study of the soles of the feet. Also called podomancy.
pegomancy
a form of divination by studying springs or fountains. — pegomantic, adj.
pessomancy
a form of divination involving pebbles. Also called psephology, psephomancy.
phyllomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of leaves.
podomancy
pedomancy.
psephology
pessomancy.
psephomancy
1. pessomancy
2. a form of divination involving the study of marks made on pebbles which are drawn at random from a container.
pseudomancy
a form of divination that is deliberately false or misleading.
psychomancy
a form of divination involving communication with the spirits of the dead.
pyromancy
a form of divination involving fire or flames.
pythonism
a form of divination in the manner of Pythia, the Delphic priestess.
rhabdomancy
a form of divination involving a rod or wand, especially to locate objects or materials beneath the ground, as water or precious metals; dowsing.
rhapsodomancy
a form of divination involving verses.
scapulomancy
a form of divination in which a shoulder blade is heated in a fire and the resulting cracks in the bone are consulted for omens. Cf. armomancy, omoplatoscopy, spatulamancy. — scapulomantic, adj.
scatomancy
a form of divination by examination of excrement.
schematomancy
divination of a person’s future from observation of physical appearance.
sciomancy
a form of divination through communication with the spirits of the dead. — sciomantic, adj.
scyphomancy
a form of divination involving the use of a cup.
selenomancy
a form of divination involving observation of the moon.
sibyl
Ancient Greece and Rome. a woman with oracular or prophetic powers, the most celebrated being that of Cumae. — sibyllic, — sibylic, sibylline, adj.
sibyllist
1. a believer in or follower of the sibyls.
2. a believer in their prophecies.
sideromancy
1. astrom ancy.
2. a form of divination involving observation of the sparks, shapes formed, etc., when straws are burnt against a red-hot iron.
sortilege
a form of divination involving drawing lots.
spasmatomancy
a form of divination used to foretell disease by observing spasms or twitching of the potential sufferer’s body.
spatilomancy, spatalamancy
a form of divination involving the examination of animal feces.
spatulamancy
a form of divination by means of an animal’s shoulder blade. Cf. armomancy, omoplatoscopy, scapuloniancy. — spatulamantic, adj.
spodomancy
a form of divination through the uses of ashes. — spodomantic, adj.
sternomancy
a form of divination involving examination of the breastbone.
stichomancy
a form of divination involving lines of poetry or passages from books.
stignomancy
a form of divination involving the examination of writing on or carving in the bark of a tree.
sycomancy
a form of divination involving figs or fig leaves.
telegnosis
clairvoyance or other occult or supernatural knowledge.
tephramancy, tephromancy
a form of divination involving the examination of the ashes remaining af ter a sacrifice.
theomancy
a form of divination involving the responses of oracles or other soothsayers.
theriomancy
1. a form of divination involving wild beasts.
2. a form of divination based upon observation of the movements of animals. Cf. zoomancy.
tyromancy
a form of divination involving observation of cheese, especially as it coagulates.
uromancy
Rare. a form of divination by studying urine. — uromantic, adj.
xylomancy
a form of divination involving pieces of wood.
zoomancy
a form of divination based upon the observation of animals or their movements under certain circumstances. Cf. theriomancy. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711844 (OP)
10/9/2009 1:41 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Very well . . . to those who believe astrology to be divination, then what is astronomy? Do not both study the motion of the stars and celestial bodies, as well as their alignments?
astronomy ↔ astrology
My concept of astrology has little to do with 'making predictions' or 'fortunetelling' . . . but perhaps that is just 'me'. The 'predictions' that are printed in newspapers and magazines are garbage . . . anyone with a sense of creativity could write those, so I don't put much weight on that type of information.
In any case, I felt the article was well written/ researched and felt it would be something worthwhile to share; nothing more, nothing less . . . . |
| Full Circle
User ID: 790127
10/9/2009 1:48 PM
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Synchronicity. Just now, I was coming on to ask this question....
Why is the bible the only text that claims, "No one shall know the hour", but yet all PRIOR ancient texts speak of the supreme importance of watching the sky and the precession of the equinoxes?
Why does the bible/church condemn it as satanic, and yet all ancient temples incorporate and reflect astronomical alignments?
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| rachel
User ID: 529732
10/9/2009 1:49 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
EVERYTHING god created for the good of man is minipulated by satan! |
| Full Circle
User ID: 790127
10/9/2009 1:51 PM
| | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
There is no satan.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| Sugarelf
User ID: 765966
10/9/2009 1:51 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711844 (OP)
10/9/2009 1:57 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Synchronicity. Just now, I was coming on to ask this question....
Why is the bible the only text that claims, "No one shall know the hour", but yet all PRIOR ancient texts speak of the supreme importance of watching the sky and the precession of the equinoxes?
Why does the bible/church condemn it as satanic, and yet all ancient temples incorporate and reflect astronomical alignments? Quoting: Full Circle
Good points Full Circle; I'd like to know the answers to these questions as well. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711844 (OP)
10/9/2009 1:58 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Very true Sugarelf; He said that and I'm keeping my eyes open. ;) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711844 (OP)
10/9/2009 2:07 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Thanks for the article/ link Sugarelf . . . :) |
| Full Circle
User ID: 790127
10/9/2009 2:07 PM
| | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Good points Full Circle; I'd like to know the answers to these questions as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711844
lol...maybe the bible holds the answer to that too. It's a very useful text when used in conjunction with other teachings.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| Sugarelf
User ID: 765966
10/9/2009 2:31 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
lol...maybe the bible holds the answer to that too. It's a very useful text when used in conjunction with other teachings. Quoting: Full Circle
Yes !!
That is why some Bibles have a couple of blank pages at the end !!
11:11 |
| Lotus Feet 
The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law
User ID: 776324
10/9/2009 2:32 PM
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Synchronicity. Just now, I was coming on to ask this question....Why is the bible the only text that claims, "No one shall know the hour", but yet all PRIOR ancient texts speak of the supreme importance of watching the sky and the precession of the equinoxes? Why does the bible/church condemn it as satanic, and yet all ancient temples incorporate and reflect astronomical alignments? Good points Full Circle; I'd like to know the answers to these questions as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711844
Excellent article OP and there is even more astrology in the Dead Sea Scrolls and it also talks about the Jubilees being numbered by the signs that appear. There is some interesting astrological data in the Dead Sea Scrolls that the astrologers would understand.
There is also a biblical gospel that mentions Jesus and the mountain of Divination.
On the questions "No one shall know the hour" is two fold.
1. It was given by Prophet Isaiah that nobody would know the hour when God would send his Messenger and Jesus knew this too which is why he said only the Father knows when he would send them. We have written a post on this on the blog.
[link to academysounds.blogspot.com]
2. When one is a bride of Christ one never knows when he will come, although prepared by the Angels you are not told the exact day or the hour.
3. Why did the orthodox condemn it?
a. They did not understand it.
b. Rome wished to control the people just like tptb wish to do now with Islam. People start leaving religion because it does not satisfy them in the way that it is conveyed so they then bring on another religion. Religion was created by man and not God. The word religion does not even exist in biblical hebrew.
4. The Vatican have been watching the stars for years.
The Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, has its headquarters at the papal summer residence in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, outside Rome. Its dependent research center, the Vatican Observatory Research Group, is hosted by Steward Observatory at the University of Arizona, Tucson, USA.
The Vatican Observatory Research Group operates the 1.8m Alice P. Lennon Telescope with its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT), at the Mount Graham International Observatory (MGIO) in southeastern Arizona.
[link to vaticanobservatory.org]
"By the early sixteenth century, astrology had reached the heights of its popularity. Popes such as Julius II, Leo X, Adrian IV and Paul III viewed astrology favorably. Even a certain mistrust of astrology, as exhibited by Pope Gregory XIII, did not prevent the casting of his natal chart, now preserved in the Vatican Library. Catherine de Medici, regent and ruler of France, was said to have been unwilling to take a step without first consulting her astrologers, who included the famous Michel de Nostradamus."
[link to www.renaissanceastrology.com]
In my view astrology is a map for those that require it just like having a map in the car. When people are in tune with the celestial bodies it helps many to stay in harmony with the energetic influences that impact on planet earth and is people. Those that are sensitive to planetary energies have no requirement for the map because they sense the energies and do their best to work with them. Like swimming with the tide instead of against it.
Lotus
Last Edited by Lotus Feet on 10/9/2009 at 2:45 PM
"Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
THE CHRIST VISION
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com] |
| Full Circle
User ID: 790127
10/9/2009 2:43 PM
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Thanks Lotus, but no thanks. Understandings. You have yours and I shall continue to follow mine own.
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| Lotus Feet
The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law
User ID: 776324
10/9/2009 2:49 PM
| | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Thanks Lotus, but no thanks. Understandings. You have yours and I shall continue to follow mine own. Quoting: Full Circle
Full circle you asked the question and we have responded to your question based upon experience and we have provided the scripture in tact exactly as it is written in the bible. We have also provided you with the verse from the Aramaic as well.
How does what we have shared with you differ Full Circle?
The text is there in black and white.
Lotus
"Blessed is the one that comes in the name of the LORD."
"I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."
“Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
THE CHRIST VISION
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com] |
| Full Circle
User ID: 790127
10/9/2009 2:52 PM
| | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
Thanks Lotus, but no thanks. Understandings. You have yours and I shall continue to follow mine own.
Full circle you asked the question and we have responded to your question based upon experience and we have provided the scripture in tact exactly as it is written in the bible. We have also provided you with the verse from the Aramaic as well.
How does what we have shared with you differ Full Circle?
The text is there in black and white.
Lotus Quoting: Lotus Feet
I wasn't asking you. I was just opining in relation to the thread that these are things I want to know. (And will continue to seek on my own)
Who is "we"?
And IMO, seeking God is not "black and white".
Last Edited by Full Circle on 10/9/2009 at 2:52 PM
In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711844 (OP)
10/9/2009 2:58 PM | | Re: Astrology and The Bible | Quote |
In case anyone is interested, here is an excellent site which is the largest freely available archive of online books about religion, mythology, folklore and the esoteric on the Internet.
[link to www.sacred-texts.com]
Enjoy!  |
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