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CERN scientist 'arrested on terror charge' - is it to hide the real reason?

 
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OK so call me cynical, but you have to agree this is dead weird of them to announce after all that has gone 'wrong' with CERN and set the programme back.

So they arrested a scientist from the UK who happens to be a muslim, and he just happens to of 'confesed' to being a terrorist and just happens to have the highest level of classification and vetting the UK can offer - this is so tight it takes up to a year for the vetting procedure to come through, and yet they didn't pick up any of his 'terror links' during this period?

I call bullshit.

What I think we have seen is the culprit has been caught who has been trying to stop CERN from operating because he with his science background knows whats possibly going to happen once it ramps up.Now, to get the populations attention diverted from CERN, they have trumped up fake confessions and fake terror charges.

Funny how here in the UK his trial may be in secret due to 'national security reasons' and no public will be allowed to know the details.

Its a conspiracy, so I put it out there for discussion. Your thoughts people?
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[link to www.iol.co.za]

By Emily Andrews, Peter Allen and Nick Mcdermott
Daily Mail

A nuclear scientist arrested by armed police is said to have admitted plotting an al-Qaeda terrorist atrocity, possibly in Britain.

Dr Adlene Hicheur, 32, has confessed to talking over the Internet with the North African branch of the terror organisation about attacks on "Western targets", according to officials in France where he was held last week.

Hicheur, a Frenchman of Algerian origin, worked for the CERN nuclear research laboratory near Geneva and had also worked at the top secret Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in England.

French authorities have been working with MI5 to track his movements in the UK amid growing fears he could have been planning a nuclear attack in Britain.
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Thats just my point - I know how tight security is in just the 'normal' parts of UK science establishments, and this guy goes through a full years vetting and then they find some thing years later AFTER he has worked in CERN?

I seriously am doubting the official story on this one.
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Are there official stories which turn out to be true?

Maybe he is a scapegoat to divert attention from the actual cause. Maybe a hero, That would be cool.
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I think this is the guy (one of a few in my opinion) who has been halting CERN in its tracks and doesn't want to be part of what ever it is TPTB are cooking up under neath their feet.

My true feeling is that this guy now faces 'terrorism' charges because TPTB know 100% that the sheep will trade anything for 'security', and the best way to scare them is with a 'terror charge' from a muslim!!!

Thats just my take on it because I know how damn probing they are with their security vetting in the UK.
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I'm with the OP on this one. Idol1
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I cannot believe this man 'slipped through the cracks' of any vetting procedure - its just not possible, sorry.

Heres how UK vetting works for Top Secret and higher. You apply for the job - they send you back a 35 page form, and on it you have to put all your addresses (foreign and UK) from the age of 16.

You then have to supply all of your addresses from that age, as well as your entire work history. This is then added together with your entire family history where you have to name your mother and father, and give detailed histories for them as well.

This then goes through to vetting and security dept. and they fine tooth comb it. They can take up to 18 months, and they will check everything, and if one detail is false, misleading or 'suspect' they will tear you apart in taped cautioned interviews and start again.

You fuck up once, they will 'start over', you show two or more suspicious leanings, your fucked, they will destroy your future because once you fail one vetting, it is then kept on file in the UK and anything else you ever go for, you will be held at the lowest level possible if, and its a big if, you ever get another chance at a job.

Hence, this story is absolute bullshit. Theres some thing he has done they want to keep hidden in my opinion, and its not terrorism I am worried about here.

CERN worries me, and I suspect that this man is the man who has been throwing spanners in the works to ahlt it.
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Long to short - I think the UK and France are going to bury this guy so deep he won't ever be able to surface and tell his side of the story as to what really was going on at CERN.

We won't really know I fear until it is too late.
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CERN mission is to open a portal that will allow their MASTERS

to slip through EASIER into our REALM

get my drift?
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CERN mission is to open a portal that will allow their MASTERS

to slip through EASIER into our REALM

get my drift?
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I can only say it could be a possibilty - However I do think that TPTB are hiding one hell of alot from us about this project and are willing to destroy any one who stands on their way.

Look at the UK hacker who found the non-terrestrial Naval Officers - 60 years in solitary he faces in the USA. Why? so he cannot talk.

This man will be the same - he will get 18 years or so in prison and will never be able to tell us the truth until it is too late.
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CERN mission is to open a portal that will allow their MASTERS

to slip through EASIER into our REALM

get my drift?


I can only say it could be a possibilty - However I do think that TPTB are hiding one hell of alot from us about this project and are willing to destroy any one who stands on their way.

Look at the UK hacker who found the non-terrestrial Naval Officers - 60 years in solitary he faces in the USA. Why? so he cannot talk.

This man will be the same - he will get 18 years or so in prison and will never be able to tell us the truth until it is too late.
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[link to content.sciencelearningcentres.org.uk (secure)]

notice it looks like a STARGATE in which would open a PORTAL
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They do know what they are looking for and trying to achieve, and it is not anything that you will understand as 'normal' science. Think of it as a doorway.


The above is what I got told many years ago before even the first ground was broken for the CERN project.

Now after reading the 'arrest for terrorism' I am doubly sure that i will watch from as far away as I can get.
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Its strange isn't it? a man who works for the government in their nuclear weapons programme and development is now a terrorist?

Two words - fuck off.

There is no way on earth that there is any truth to this story at all. This man has some thing to tell us and he will be buried deep into the UK prison service and never to be seen again.

My bet is suicided after a few years wgen he is under the radar and people ahve forgotten about it all because we are all too busy with what ever CERN is going to bring us.
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Oh yeah, a setup for sure. That way when the LHC does do something unimaginable, we can blame a MUSLIM TERRORIST for it.

AHHHHH! RUN AWAY! SOOOOOOOOO FRIGHTENED.

Ginormous fail.
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I just want to know what CERN really is!

I mean there is no way in hell that someone fronted THAT much money, time and expense to search for some elusive particle..

Not even saying that that is not what they are doing, but if they are searching for this particle it must be one hell of an important and powerful particle, maybe they are looking for the next big bomb, maybe alternative energy or whatever, but no way is there not some huge thing behind this program.

I also think it is impossible that this guy was a "terrorist" and didn't get caught up in the obviously manic security search BEFORE he was hired.

Maybe he tried to blow the whistle?

Maybe he talked too much?
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I think he was about to blow the whistle and got 'storied'. That way he is now a 'terrorist!' and no newspaper is going to touch anything he has to say.

Pity, as I have a sneaky feeling he is more the patriot than those who say he is a terrorist.

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