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| Greg_B.
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10/13/2009 11:37 PM
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Two things are at work here:
1: Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology. Each force mentioned in Daniel and Revelation (Which is nothing more than Daniel re-told for Christians) can be linked to the Zodiac, and how they interact with each other. ITS ALL ASTROLOGY. Which, by the way, makes it true-ish, so in a way I am not bashing your beliefs. Just HOW you believe in it.
2: The Lineage of Royalty which has ruled the Earth since Yahweh installed Kings over men UNDERSTAND the astrology and follow the plan, assuring that what is written will happen at the appointed times. THE APPOINTED TIMES, meaning it's a plan that corresponds to the heavens, NOT A PREDICTION.
Astrology was given to man by "The Gods" long before "The Man" sought to conceal Astrology by inserting false warnings against it in the King James.
"The Gods" including Yahweh are real, unfortunately, we have mislabled them to be supreme beings. Superior? Perhaps. Supreme? No.
The Most High has nothing to do with any of this, save for it all falls under it's umbrella.
You can choose to follow these lesser beings, or learn about the Most High. Either way, you should really understand what is in your Bible, because it does affect us all in one way or another. |
| pixie
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10/13/2009 11:38 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Scripture & Verse ...
Then we'll discuss.
Paul thought Jesus was coming back in his time... guess that didn't happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648271 |
| pixie
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10/13/2009 11:57 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
1. Astronomy - Reading planets, stars, night sky etc.
Did G-d not choose a celestial event to announce the birth of His Son ... G-d created The Heavens and all the alignment of the stars that make up the astrological symbols. For a purpose. A distinct reason and intent.
For the ancients to read as a calendar for planting, harvesting, new moons for their Holy Convocations.
Beginning and Endings of new years.
There is a big difference between astrology ( psychic art ) and astronomy ( study of hard science ).
2. There is a difference between a prediction and a prophesy. A prophesy comes to pass. A prediction may not.
So while you believe The Kings of The House Of David ( England ) still rule The Earth and bring to pass events from their "predictions" of understanding celestial events, I disagree. No man has the capability to bring these events together, in perfect timing, in perfect alignment. G-d looked, and saw what Man would DO.
And prophesized.
3. I believe "the gods" who gave astrological knowledge to Man, of whom you speak were the Nephilim, and gave other sacred knowledge as well. G-d meant for Man to have and understand The Knowledge of The Heavenlies. It was necessary as I stated above.
4. The only beings supreme to us are The Angels, and they are not gods. There is Only One G-d. I believe The Angels may be called, refered to as "gods" ... But by Nature they are not.
5. I have prefered to read Scripture in the original language. Alot is lost in trans-literation. And, as you stated ... I am willing to search and seek with my heart and spirit. I do not attend a church. Nor do I belong to any denomination. But I also do not mix new age theosophy with my faith.
Two things are at work here:
1: Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology. Each force mentioned in Daniel and Revelation (Which is nothing more than Daniel re-told for Christians) can be linked to the Zodiac, and how they interact with each other. ITS ALL ASTROLOGY. Which, by the way, makes it true-ish, so in a way I am not bashing your beliefs. Just HOW you believe in it.
2. The Lineage of Royalty which has ruled the Earth since Yahweh installed Kings over men UNDERSTAND the astrology and follow the plan, assuring that what is written will happen at the appointed times. THE APPOINTED TIMES, meaning it's a plan that corresponds to the heavens, NOT A PREDICTION.
3. Astrology was given to man by "The Gods" long before "The Man" sought to conceal Astrology by inserting false warnings against it in the King James.
"The Gods" including Yahweh are real, unfortunately, we have mislabled them to be supreme beings. Superior? Perhaps. Supreme? No.
The Most High has nothing to do with any of this, save for it all falls under it's umbrella.
You can choose to follow these lesser beings, or learn about the Most High. Either way, you should really understand what is in your Bible, because it does affect us all in one way or another. Quoting: Greg_B. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/13/2009 11:58 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Op have you ever considered the logical ramifications a book that opens up by claiming that "... and God said, let there be light", when, by the same book there were no humans around to record such sayings? |
| TXGal4Truth 
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10/14/2009 12:07 AM
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| pixie
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10/14/2009 12:26 AM | | pixie
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10/14/2009 12:30 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Well, that is limiting G-d. He can speak through spirit to whom He chooses, at any time He so chooses. And put in Moses' spirit what transpired when He Brooded over the Darkness and Created All Things ... And Moses wrote it down. But that takes faith and understanding, perhaps experiencing the "things" of the spirit. G-d is in charge.
He made sure His Work of Creation was recorded.
Op have you ever considered the logical ramifications a book that opens up by claiming that "... and God said, let there be light", when, by the same book there were no humans around to record such sayings? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648271 |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/14/2009 12:55 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
From wikipedia:
The Apostle Paul also seems to have shared this expectation. Toward the end of 1 Corinthians 7, he counsels Christians to avoid getting married if they can since the end of history was imminent. Speaking to the unmarried, he writes, "I think that, in view of the impending crisis, it is well for you to remain as your are." "I mean, brothers and sisters, the appointed time has grown short ... For the present form of this world is passing away." (1 Corinthians 7:26, 29, 31) In 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, Paul also seems to believe that he will live to witness the return of Jesus and the end of history. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/14/2009 1:44 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Two things are at work here:
1: Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology. Each force mentioned in Daniel and Revelation (Which is nothing more than Daniel re-told for Christians) can be linked to the Zodiac, and how they interact with each other. ITS ALL ASTROLOGY. Which, by the way, makes it true-ish, so in a way I am not bashing your beliefs. Just HOW you believe in it.
2: The Lineage of Royalty which has ruled the Earth since Yahweh installed Kings over men UNDERSTAND the astrology and follow the plan, assuring that what is written will happen at the appointed times. THE APPOINTED TIMES, meaning it's a plan that corresponds to the heavens, NOT A PREDICTION.
Astrology was given to man by "The Gods" long before "The Man" sought to conceal Astrology by inserting false warnings against it in the King James.
"The Gods" including Yahweh are real, unfortunately, we have mislabled them to be supreme beings. Superior? Perhaps. Supreme? No.
The Most High has nothing to do with any of this, save for it all falls under it's umbrella.
You can choose to follow these lesser beings, or learn about the Most High. Either way, you should really understand what is in your Bible, because it does affect us all in one way or another. Quoting: Greg_B.
The OP asked for the explanation, you have her the correct one.
but she argued you were wrong, so I wonder why she asked in the first place?
You laid it out very nicely, thanks... even though I knew the answer, I like the way you said it. |
| pixie
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10/14/2009 1:51 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Paul: 1 Corinthians 7 is not about Paul advising against marriage because of The Lord's soon return in his day:
Rather he is giving "marriage counseling" and "counseling on sexual matters" to The Church in Corinth who were confused on issues of purity IE: Sex, Marriage:
3. (7-9) Paul recognizes the benefits of singleness, but also of marriage; all is according to how God gifts.
For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
a. For I wish that all men were even as I myself: Paul, at the time of this writing, was unmarried (putting himself among the unmarried and the widows). Here he is recognizing the benefit of being single (which he will speak more of later in the letter).
i. Though Paul was unmarried at when he wrote this letter, he probably had been married at one time. We can say this because we know Paul was an extremely observant Jew, and an example among his people (Philippians 3:4-6). In Paul’s day, Jews considered that marriage was a duty, to the extent that a man reaching 20 years of age without having been married was considered to have sinned. Unmarried men were often considered excluded from heaven, and not real men at all.
ii. Also, by Paul’s own words, it is likely that Paul was a member of the Sanhedrin (in Acts 26:10, Paul says I cast my vote against them, speaking of the early Christians). An unmarried man could not be a member of the Sanhedrin.
iii. So, what happened to Paul’s wife? The Scriptures are silent. Perhaps she left him when he became a Christian, or perhaps she died some time before or after he became a Christian. But we know that it was likely he was married before, and we know he was not married when writing this letter (and there is no appearance of a wife for Paul in Acts). Paul probably was a good one to speak of the relative gifts and responsibilities of both marriage and singleness.
b. Each one has his own gift from God: Though Paul knew singleness was good for him, he would not impose it on anyone. The important thing is what gift one has from God, either being gifted to singleness or marriage.
i. Significantly, Paul regards both marriage and singleness as gifts from God. Many find themselves in the “grass is greener” trap, with singles wishing they were married and married people wishing they were singles. Each state is a gift from God.
ii. And, to be single or married is a special gifting from God. When Paul writes his own gift, he uses the same word for spiritual gifts in 1 Corinthians 12. Each state, married or single, needs special gifting from God to work.
iii. Paul’s understanding that the unmarried state can be a gift is especially striking when we consider the Jewish background of Paul himself and the early church. It was regarded as a sin for a Jewish man to be unmarried. “Among the Jews marriage was not held a thing indifferent, or at their own liberty to choose or refuse, but a binding command.” (Trapp) Clarke quotes from an ancient Jewish writing known as the Gemara: “It is forbidden a man to be without a wife; because it is written, It is not good for man to be alone. And whosoever gives not himself to generation and multiplying is all one with a murderer: he is as though he diminished from the image of God”.
iv. While Paul recognizes that some are gifted for marriage, and some are gifted for the unmarried state, no one is “gifted” for sexual immorality! The married must live faithfully to their spouse, and the unmarried must live celibate.
c. If they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry: Paul’s recommendation to marry in such cases is not based on marriage being more or less spiritual, but on very practical concerns, especially relevant to his day (as explained in 1 Corinthians 7:26, 29, 32). A godly sexual relationship within the covenant of marriage is God’s plan for meeting our sexual needs.
i. Though Paul preferred the unmarried state for himself, he doesn’t want anyone to think that being married was less spiritual, or more spiritual. It is all according to an individual’s gifting. Remember that Paul told Timothy that forbidding to marry was a doctrine of demons (1 Timothy 4:1-
ii. Paul “was aware how powerfully a counterfeit show of purity deceives the godly.” (Calvin)
d. It is better to marry than to burn with passion: Paul recognizes marriage as a legitimate refuge from pressures of sexual immorality. One should not feel they are immature or unspiritual because they desire to get married so as to not burn with passion.
i. Paul is not speaking about what we might consider “normal” sexual temptation. “It is one thing to burn, another to feel heat . . . what Paul calls burning here, is not merely a slight sensation, but being so aflame with passion that you cannot stand up against it.” (Calvin)
ii. At the same time, if someone has a problem with lust or sexual sin, they should not think that getting married will automatically solve their problems. Many a Christian man has been grieved to find that his lust for other women did not magically “go away” when he got married.
PS I'll reply to the rest of your post tomorrow.
Sweet Dreams !
God Bless & Shalom ! |
| pixie
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10/14/2009 1:59 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
It was a hyperbolic question. And I enjoy the discourse, even though I may not agree with ( all of ) it.
I know what I know. I wanted to see what others believed, thought and understood. That is why it was hyperbolically stated. I appreciate all of the responses.
And it is only your opinion that the poster you quoted laid it out correctly. It may be correct for him/her/you, but it is not correct for me. To me, it is only another opinion or perspective. Hyperbole is always a "draw" when used with integrity. And now, you know the answer.
Two things are at work here:
1: Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology. Each force mentioned in Daniel and Revelation (Which is nothing more than Daniel re-told for Christians) can be linked to the Zodiac, and how they interact with each other. ITS ALL ASTROLOGY. Which, by the way, makes it true-ish, so in a way I am not bashing your beliefs. Just HOW you believe in it.
2: The Lineage of Royalty which has ruled the Earth since Yahweh installed Kings over men UNDERSTAND the astrology and follow the plan, assuring that what is written will happen at the appointed times. THE APPOINTED TIMES, meaning it's a plan that corresponds to the heavens, NOT A PREDICTION.
Astrology was given to man by "The Gods" long before "The Man" sought to conceal Astrology by inserting false warnings against it in the King James.
"The Gods" including Yahweh are real, unfortunately, we have mislabled them to be supreme beings. Superior? Perhaps. Supreme? No.
The Most High has nothing to do with any of this, save for it all falls under it's umbrella.
You can choose to follow these lesser beings, or learn about the Most High. Either way, you should really understand what is in your Bible, because it does affect us all in one way or another.
The OP asked for the explanation, you have her the correct one.
but she argued you were wrong, so I wonder why she asked in the first place?
You laid it out very nicely, thanks... even though I knew the answer, I like the way you said it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 591484 |
| drhoecker
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10/15/2009 3:00 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
The facts were pretty obscured in johns day,like i am going through his exact experiences currently and a%% holes like coward boy keep making me a joke.I however posess proof beyond his FAT mouth.ask me and i will reveal all john saw in our present day.this is real and i am not a false prophet.just being kicked around by idiots that have nothing at all to offer.I DO.e mail,me and i will show proof off this jokers soapbox site.I AM for real.if you dont want proof then go get off line and live .I will reveal these things to whosoever emails me,all the faces and beasts john saw what appear to be actually really are ,Ihave the place and know tomorrow.i opened daniels book.the story is of us current events.it is true and acurate.ask ,all others are not in the know .this is a fact.I have what no others have,truth.
pahanalives@hotmail.com//dana rene hoecker[youtube]/drhoecker /video proof coward is a joke.i have something. |
| pixie
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10/15/2009 8:57 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
As Yeshua stated when asked by His disciples when would be the time of His return: "Nobody knows The Time but The Father in Heaven". So Yeshua is stating even He did not know The Time when He was here on Earth. So how could you?
No man knows. But Yeshua did say: "To know "The Season".
The Season of the fig tree ( Israel ).
G-d told Daniel to "seal up" The Book until The Time of The End. The Book of Daniel has been unsealed.
Thank You for you input ... But you are not in possession of the information you claim you are.
And all and any should be suspect of any who makes such claims.
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/19/2009 3:56 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
The 'skull' is a symbol of death, and the middle finger is the finger of death! The letters F U C K represent the phrase 'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge'. Most people grow up using this symbol, or the middle finger, or the F word without thinking at all about what they mean or where they came from! Why is this so? Are they ignorant, or controlled by their carnal nature?
You, my friend, are a dumbass.
The word 'fuck' is not an acronym.
It meant fornication under rule of the king.
Go to school, would you? (: |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/19/2009 4:10 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517497
One of those...who couldnt get in
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/19/2009 4:15 PM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Two things are at work here:
1: Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology. Each force mentioned in Daniel and Revelation (Which is nothing more than Daniel re-told for Christians) can be linked to the Zodiac, and how they interact with each other. ITS ALL ASTROLOGY. Which, by the way, makes it true-ish, so in a way I am not bashing your beliefs. Just HOW you believe in it.
2: The Lineage of Royalty which has ruled the Earth since Yahweh installed Kings over men UNDERSTAND the astrology and follow the plan, assuring that what is written will happen at the appointed times. THE APPOINTED TIMES, meaning it's a plan that corresponds to the heavens, NOT A PREDICTION.
Astrology was given to man by "The Gods" long before "The Man" sought to conceal Astrology by inserting false warnings against it in the King James.
"The Gods" including Yahweh are real, unfortunately, we have mislabled them to be supreme beings. Superior? Perhaps. Supreme? No.
The Most High has nothing to do with any of this, save for it all falls under it's umbrella.
You can choose to follow these lesser beings, or learn about the Most High. Either way, you should really understand what is in your Bible, because it does affect us all in one way or another. Quoting: Greg_B.
Crap. "Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology" Crap.
Have you ever read and studied Bible prophecy to any length? or are you just quoting something else? If you have studied Bible prophecy you would not made this ridiculous statement. Bible Prophecy is sooooooo accurate, it is scary. Bible Prophecy is what most of the Bible is about. Bible prophecy is what keeps me a Christian. I would die for my beliefs. Yes, I am being truthful. I am so amazed at how accurately the Bible prdicts world events, that I has to be from God and only God. Because, GOd is the only one who knows the future. |
| pixie
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11/3/2009 1:57 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
While The Science of Astronomy, the reading of Planets and Bodies in the night sky can and have predicted events, such as the Celestial Body seen by The Magi which led them to the young Messiah's coming into The World, and many Indigenous and Native American prophecies have been deduced from Astronomy ... The Mayan Calendar and The Year 2012, is going to be prophetic; yet nobody knows what the phenomena will be. But Astronomy could not have foretold The Geopolitical state of The World, when Israel would be a stone around the necks of all Nations, that we are now witnessing. There are too many geopolitical events ocurring in our time that have been prophesised in The Book of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Revelation. Only a G-d existing out of our space time domain and continuim could have seen and known that such things, "these" things would come to pass. He Is The I Am. The Alpha and The Omega.
Seeing all things from The Beginning to The End.
And frome The End back at The Beginning.
Two things are at work here:
1: Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology. Each force mentioned in Daniel and Revelation (Which is nothing more than Daniel re-told for Christians) can be linked to the Zodiac, and how they interact with each other. ITS ALL ASTROLOGY. Which, by the way, makes it true-ish, so in a way I am not bashing your beliefs. Just HOW you believe in it.
2: The Lineage of Royalty which has ruled the Earth since Yahweh installed Kings over men UNDERSTAND the astrology and follow the plan, assuring that what is written will happen at the appointed times. THE APPOINTED TIMES, meaning it's a plan that corresponds to the heavens, NOT A PREDICTION.
Astrology was given to man by "The Gods" long before "The Man" sought to conceal Astrology by inserting false warnings against it in the King James.
"The Gods" including Yahweh are real, unfortunately, we have mislabled them to be supreme beings. Superior? Perhaps. Supreme? No.
The Most High has nothing to do with any of this, save for it all falls under it's umbrella.
You can choose to follow these lesser beings, or learn about the Most High. Either way, you should really understand what is in your Bible, because it does affect us all in one way or another.
Crap. "Bible prophecy is nothing more than Astrology" Crap.
Have you ever read and studied Bible prophecy to any length? or are you just quoting something else? If you have studied Bible prophecy you would not made this ridiculous statement. Bible Prophecy is sooooooo accurate, it is scary. Bible Prophecy is what most of the Bible is about. Bible prophecy is what keeps me a Christian. I would die for my beliefs. Yes, I am being truthful. I am so amazed at how accurately the Bible prdicts world events, that I has to be from God and only God. Because, GOd is the only one who knows the future. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 797871 |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 2:06 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
OPie, the Bible was around before the contemporary problems. I'm betting that those who have deliberately created the problems have also read the Bible. LOL! |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 2:36 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
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| pixie
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11/3/2009 3:02 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Some have said. And it's not impossible. It just depends on whether one believes The Bible is the inspired Word of God or not ...
But by your theory: Men wrote The Bible and for over thousands of years have been working in collusion to bring these events about?
OPie, the Bible was around before the contemporary problems. I'm betting that those who have deliberately created the problems have also read the Bible. LOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809192 |
| pixie
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11/3/2009 3:03 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772844
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| mystylplx
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11/3/2009 3:06 AM
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Explain it then. Because only an all knowing G-d could have seen The End from The Beginning ...
The Alpha and The Omega.
How could John, living in 90 AD have recorded these geo-political, astrological events, climate occurences that are happening in Our Day? Only "One" standing outside of our time-space domain could see through time.
John had to ascribe, using the words of his day, meanings that captured what existed in his day to explain the visions. Like and As ... And though I don't believe any scholar of Bible Prophecy has gotten it totally right, perhaps there is a reason why, not yet made know. But did not The Lord say "know the season of the fig tree" which is refering to Israel ( the fig tree ).
And Israel is becoming "that burdensome stone around all necks" as The Bible stated it would.
PS Regarding The Omega Project:
What about the offspring of "The sons of G-d" and "The daughers of Man" ... The Giants who gave away sacred knowledge that Man was never meant to possess.
The Nephalim. ( Another thread perhaps ).
And when asked by His disciples when would that time be, The End of Days, and when would these things be, did not Yeshua state three times first:
"See that you are not deceived (that no man deceive you)".
And then He stated: "As of the days of Noah were, so shall it be before The Coming of The Son of Man".
So, the days of Noah were specific, unusual, unordinary. Because of The Nephilim infesting The Land.
And infecting the human gene pool. Thus, The Flood.
You assert that John recorded "these geo-political, astrological events, climate occurences that are happening in Our Day?" yet you give no examples. What occurances did he record that are happening today? And remember, it doesn't count if it's vague and could mean anything. It also doesn't count if it's been happening all along (like hurricanes.) |
| pixie
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11/3/2009 3:17 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
John only recorded The Revelation he was given from The Lord, so The Book of Revelation was not John's revelation, it was The Lord's given ...
All of the prophesies are not from just The Book of Revelation, they are also from The Books of Daniel, Ezekiel and The Gospels as well. In The Gospels, The Lord speaks of the diverse weather patterns, wars and rumors of wars, the prophesies of The State of Israel ...
I'll give you two occurences: The rise in hurricanes.
Climatologists have never recorded such a rise in so short a period of time.
Israel: As was prophesised, WW3 will be fought over Israel, which The Lord refered to as a burdening stone around the necks of every Nation.
Explain it then. Because only an all knowing G-d could have seen The End from The Beginning ...
The Alpha and The Omega.
How could John, living in 90 AD have recorded these geo-political, astrological events, climate occurences that are happening in Our Day? Only "One" standing outside of our time-space domain could see through time.
John had to ascribe, using the words of his day, meanings that captured what existed in his day to explain the visions. Like and As ... And though I don't believe any scholar of Bible Prophecy has gotten it totally right, perhaps there is a reason why, not yet made know. But did not The Lord say "know the season of the fig tree" which is refering to Israel ( the fig tree ).
And Israel is becoming "that burdensome stone around all necks" as The Bible stated it would.
PS Regarding The Omega Project:
What about the offspring of "The sons of G-d" and "The daughers of Man" ... The Giants who gave away sacred knowledge that Man was never meant to possess.
The Nephalim. ( Another thread perhaps ).
And when asked by His disciples when would that time be, The End of Days, and when would these things be, did not Yeshua state three times first:
"See that you are not deceived (that no man deceive you)".
And then He stated: "As of the days of Noah were, so shall it be before The Coming of The Son of Man".
So, the days of Noah were specific, unusual, unordinary. Because of The Nephilim infesting The Land.
And infecting the human gene pool. Thus, The Flood.
You assert that John recorded "these geo-political, astrological events, climate occurences that are happening in Our Day?" yet you give no examples. What occurances did he record that are happening today? And remember, it doesn't count if it's vague and could mean anything. It also doesn't count if it's been happening all along (like hurricanes.) |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:25 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Because the bad guys that wrote it still run things today. Is that too simple for you to understand OP? It's their playbook; predictive programing, tard.
who programmed albert einstein to invent the A-bomb?
did they time it specifically to coincide with the bombing of hiroshima some time later? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793501
Or, who just happened to name the town Chernobyl "chernobyl" (i.e., wormwood), and make it blow up in 1986, just so a verse in Revelation 8 could be fulfilled during a future war...
Yes, this idea that human "powers that be" are so powerful as to be able to orchestrate everything exactly as the conspiracy believers think is just damn crazy. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:31 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Explain it then. Because only an all knowing G-d could have seen The End from The Beginning ...
The Alpha and The Omega.
How could John, living in 90 AD have recorded these geo-political, astrological events, climate occurences that are happening in Our Day? Only "One" standing outside of our time-space domain could see through time.
John had to ascribe, using the words of his day, meanings that captured what existed in his day to explain the visions. Like and As ... And though I don't believe any scholar of Bible Prophecy has gotten it totally right, perhaps there is a reason why, not yet made know. But did not The Lord say "know the season of the fig tree" which is refering to Israel ( the fig tree ).
And Israel is becoming "that burdensome stone around all necks" as The Bible stated it would.
PS Regarding The Omega Project:
What about the offspring of "The sons of G-d" and "The daughers of Man" ... The Giants who gave away sacred knowledge that Man was never meant to possess.
The Nephalim. ( Another thread perhaps ).
And when asked by His disciples when would that time be, The End of Days, and when would these things be, did not Yeshua state three times first:
"See that you are not deceived (that no man deceive you)".
And then He stated: "As of the days of Noah were, so shall it be before The Coming of The Son of Man".
So, the days of Noah were specific, unusual, unordinary. Because of The Nephilim infesting The Land.
And infecting the human gene pool. Thus, The Flood.
Thousands of years of planning by TPTB coming to fruition doesn't divine providence it make!!
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:38 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
OPie, the Bible was around before the contemporary problems. I'm betting that those who have deliberately created the problems have also read the Bible. LOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809192
So, NO AMOUNT of prophetic accuracy could EVER convince someone like you? Seems pretty stupid. No offense.
I guess the 100+ PERFECTLY fulfilled prophecies concerning The first coming (and death) of Christ, were also staged by TPTB... right?
Surely, you aren't THAT silly. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:40 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Because the bad guys that wrote it still run things today. Is that too simple for you to understand OP? It's their playbook; predictive programing, tard. Quoting: hoot no more/hasheater 793483
You are about as screwed up as a person could POSSIBLY be. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:43 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
The 'skull' is a symbol of death, and the middle finger is the finger of death! The letters F U C K represent the phrase 'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge'. Most people grow up using this symbol, or the middle finger, or the F word without thinking at all about what they mean or where they came from! Why is this so? Are they ignorant, or controlled by their carnal nature? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793477
The letters F U C K came from the phrase, "Fornication Under the Command of the King. It was what soliers did in medieval times, in order to "breed out" their enemies. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:45 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Ok clearly they were comunicating with entities that could access the future - it is quite natural for spirit entities to be able to do this, I know I've had a lot of experience with them - to call it God is a big step, particularly when it acts more like a jealous toddler at times with a penchant for burn't offerings.
The God of Mohammed seemed to see the future quite easily as well - do you ascribe this to divine origins as well?
I do know that we are prey, food items for a whole raft of astral beings - the last thing they intend is that we should ascend out of their clutches into 5D - and Islam at least seems taylor made to achieve just that end - ie to keep humans firmly tied down in the astral levels and to never be able to work their way throught the mental planes to finaly graduate from this system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793180 |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 3:46 AM | | Re: If The Bible Was Not Divinely Inspired, Explain Why Global Events Read Like Today's Headline News; Just As The Books Of Prophecy: Daniel & R | Quote |
Ok clearly they were comunicating with entities that could access the future - it is quite natural for spirit entities to be able to do this, I know I've had a lot of experience with them - to call it God is a big step, particularly when it acts more like a jealous toddler at times with a penchant for burn't offerings.
The God of Mohammed seemed to see the future quite easily as well - do you ascribe this to divine origins as well?
I do know that we are prey, food items for a whole raft of astral beings - the last thing they intend is that we should ascend out of their clutches into 5D - and Islam at least seems taylor made to achieve just that end - ie to keep humans firmly tied down in the astral levels and to never be able to work their way throught the mental planes to finaly graduate from this system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793180
Quote:
"The God of Mohammed seemed to see the future quite easily as well - do you ascribe this to divine origins as well?"
Oh yeah? Show me prophecies written in the Koran? |
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