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OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORD

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The Minnesota Free Market Institute hosted an event at Bethel University in St. Paul on Wednesday evening. Keynote speaker Lord Christopher Monckton, former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, gave a scathing and lengthy presentation, complete with detailed charts, graphs, facts, and figures which culminated in the utter decimation of both the pop culture concept of global warming and the credible threat of any significant anthropomorphic climate change.

A detailed summary of Monckton’s presentation will be available here once compiled. However, a segment of his remarks justify immediate publication. If credible, the concern Monckton speaks to may well prove the single most important issue facing the American nation, bigger than health care, bigger than cap and trade, and worth every citizen’s focused attention.

Here were Monckton’s closing remarks, as dictated from my audio recording:


At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

[laughter]

And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.

But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.

So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:

Sail on, O Ship of State!
Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
Humanity with all its fears,
With all the hopes of future years,
Is hanging breathless on thy fate!


Lord Monckton received a standing ovation and took a series of questions from members of the audience. Among those questions were these relevent to the forthcoming Copenhagen treaty:

Question: The current administration and the Democratic majority in Congress has shown little regard for the will of the people. They’re trying to pass a serious government agenda, and serious taxation and burdens on future generations. And there seems to be little to stop them. How do you propose we stop Obama from doing this, because I see no way to stop him from signing anything in Copenhagen. I believe that’s his agenda and he’ll do it.

I don’t minimize the difficulty. But on this subject – I don’t really do politics, because it’s not right. In the end, your politics is for you. The correct procedure is for you to get onto your representatives, both in the US Senate where the bill has yet to go through (you can try and stop that) and in [the House], and get them to demand their right of audience (which they all have) with the president and tell him about this treaty. There are many very powerful people in this room, wealthy people, influential people. Get onto the media, tell them about this treaty. If they go to www.wattsupwiththat.com, they will find (if they look carefully enough) a copy of that treaty, because I arranged for it to be posted there not so long ago. Let them read it, and let the press tell the people that their democracy is about to be taken away for no good purpose, at least [with] no scientific basis [in reference to climate change]. Tell the press to say this. Tell the press to say that, even if there is a problem [with climate change], you don’t want your democracy taken away. It really is as simple as that.

Question: Is it really irrevocable if that treaty is signed? Suppose it’s signed by someone who does not have the authority, as I – I have some, a high degree of skepticism that we do have a valid president there because I -

I know at least one judge who shares your opinion, sir, yes.

I don’t believe it until I see it. … Would [Obama's potential illegitimacy as president] give us a reasonable cause to nullify whatever treaty that he does sign as president?

I would be very careful not to rely on things like that. Although there is a certain amount of doubt whether or not he was born in Hawaii, my fear is it would be very difficult to prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii and therefore we might not be able to get anywhere with that. Besides, once he’s signed that treaty, whether or not he signed it validly, once he’s signed it and ratified it – your Senate ratifies it – you’re bound by it. But I will say one thing; they know, in the White House, that they won’t be able to get the 67 votes in the Senate, the two-thirds majority that your Constitution has stipulated must be achieved in order to ratify a treaty of this kind. However, what they’ve worked out is this – and they actually let it slip during the election campaign, which is how I know about it. They plan to enact that Copenhagen treaty into legislation by a simple majority of both houses. That they can do. But the virtue of that – and here you have a point – is that is, thank God, reversible. So I want you to pray tonight, and pray hard for your Senate that they utterly refuse to ratify the [new] Treaty of Copenhagen, because if they refuse to ratify it and [Obama] has to push it through as domestic legislation, you can repeal it.


Regardless of whether global warming is taking place or caused to any degree by human activity, we do not want a global government empowered to tax Americans without elected representation or anything analogous to constitutional protections. The Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew their progeny allowed a foreign power such authority, effectively undoing their every effort in an act of Anti-American Revolution. If that is our imminent course, we need to put all else on hold and focus on stopping it. If American sovereignty is ceded, all other debate is irrelevant.

Edited to add @ 8:31 am:

Skimming through the treaty, I came across verification of Monckton’s assessment of the new entity’s purpose:

38. The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism, and the basic organization of which will include the following:

World Government (heading added)
(a) The government will be ruled by the COP with the support of a new subsidiary body on adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds and the related facilitative processes and bodies. The current Convention secretariat will operate as such, as appropriate.

To Redistribute Wealth (heading added)
b) The Convention’s financial mechanism will include a multilateral climate change fund including five windows: (a) an Adaptation window, (b) a Compensation window, to address loss and damage from climate change impacts [read: the "climate debt" Monckton refers to], including insurance, rehabilitation and compensatory components, © a Technology window; (d) a Mitigation window; and (e) a REDD window, to support a multi-phases process for positive forest incentives relating to REDD actions.

With Enforcement Authority (heading added)
© The Convention’s facilitative mechanism will include: (a) work programmes for adaptation and mitigation; (b) a long-term REDD process; © a short-term technology action plan; (d) an expert group on adaptation established by the subsidiary body on adaptation, and expert groups on mitigation, technologies and on monitoring, reporting and verification; and (e) an international registry for the monitoring, reporting and verification of compliance of emission reduction commitments, and the transfer of technical and financial resources from developed countries to developing countries. The secretariat will provide technical and administrative support, including a new centre for information exchange [read; enforcement].



[link to fightinwordsusa.wordpress.com]

If this is real you had all better organize and fight for your country RIGHT NOW!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 604814
10/15/2009 7:51 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

So where's the copy of the treaty? Copenhagen treaty?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 7:52 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

So where's the copy of the treaty? Copenhagen treaty?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 604814


Good question.
I posted this here hoping other people can start doing some research to verify this story.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772130
10/15/2009 7:56 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Has anyone read this? This is scary!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 8:05 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

So where's the copy of the treaty? Copenhagen treaty?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 604814


Here it is:

[link to wattsupwiththat.com]


PIN IT!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726572
10/15/2009 8:08 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

bump

I vote for a pin also!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 8:10 PM
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NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE....

Soros Launches Climate Control Initiative in Copenhagen

October 12, 2009 (LPAC)—Friday at a meeting in Copenhagen on climate change sponsored by Project Syndicate (an international association of 430 newspapers from 150 countries), Nazi collaborator and British agent George Soros announced that he will invest $1 billion in clean-energy technology and create an organization to advise policy makers on environmental policy.

Soros will establish the Climate Policy Initiative, a San Francisco-based organization to which he will donate $10 million a year for 10 years. It will be part advisory service, part policy developer, and part watchdog, said Thomas Heller, who is heading the initiative. Heller is a professor at Stanford University Law School whose expertise is in energy law and regulation and environmental law.

The group will work in the U.S., Europe, China, India, and Brazil, he said. The problem of global warming is primarily a political problem at this point, Soros said. "The science is beyond dispute, but how do we achieve the objectives we all know are necessary? That is a political problem." The organization will address subjects such as carbon-emissions trading.

Soros has said he prefers a greenhouse-gas tax because carbon emission-trading systems, which are used in Europe, can be manipulated by investors. The system can be gamed; that's why financial types like me like it — because there are financial opportunities, Soros said at a London School of Economics seminar in July.

[link to larouchepac.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 781989
10/15/2009 8:11 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

So where's the copy of the treaty? Copenhagen treaty?


Good question.
I posted this here hoping other people can start doing some research to verify this story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795061


So there's no evidence that this alleged treaty even exists? Doom canceled.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 8:13 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

So where's the copy of the treaty? Copenhagen treaty?


Good question.
I posted this here hoping other people can start doing some research to verify this story.

So there's no evidence that this alleged treaty even exists? Doom canceled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781989


I just posted a link to it.
Read the thread before you post.
Doom re-activated.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772130
10/15/2009 8:16 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Could this be tied in to another post on GLP about the president's world-wide broadcast at the end of November?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772130
10/15/2009 8:21 PM
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Call - in to Glenn Beck!!
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10/15/2009 8:26 PM
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>>How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.<<
DJnope
DJamextree
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 8:28 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Call - in to Glenn Beck!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772130


Yeah everybody do it!
I already sent it to drudge.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 9:02 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

>>How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.<<
:DJnope:
 Quoting: DaJavoo


This is exactly what they are doing with the European Union. The laws of the individual countries are not recognized by the European Superstate. That is what this treaty will do to the United States. It's just another disguised attempt to destroy national sovereignty!

WAKE UP AMERICA!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772130
10/15/2009 9:32 PM
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I don't know why there has not been much response to this thread. Maybe people don't understand the title....dunno, but this is more upsetting that "cap and trade", "health care reform", "2nd stimulas", "boy in the ballon", "dog ate my homework" or any other thread on this site! Hello......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 151657
10/15/2009 9:33 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Could this be tied in to another post on GLP about the president's world-wide broadcast at the end of November?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772130


Those were my thoughts.

But why would Obama anounce this globally?

Since the agenda is global governance has Tony blair been ousted from his post as European President?

As in many circle we was said to be, frist european president, then the first worl leader.

Has Obama called trumphs on him?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772130
10/15/2009 9:41 PM
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Obama is (imo)more popular than Blair world-wide and he does have the "nobel peace prize" and all..... There is nothing but surprises anymore.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 10:23 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

I don't know why there has not been much response to this thread. Maybe people don't understand the title....dunno, but this is more upsetting that "cap and trade", "health care reform", "2nd stimulas", "boy in the ballon", "dog ate my homework" or any other thread on this site! Hello......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772130


I was thinking that too.
I think it's because it's a bit to overwhelming for the average American to grasp. That is why people need to send this story into Glenn Beck.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 787762
10/15/2009 10:24 PM
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WHAT IN THE FUCK!

TIME TO SOUND THE ALARMS EVERYONE!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795158
10/15/2009 10:52 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

WHAT IN THE FUCK!

TIME TO SOUND THE ALARMS EVERYONE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787762

i hear you now,but with a corrupt congress what can we do.its not we the people anymore it we the congress.i guess ill be on the losing side,whats new.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 642770
10/15/2009 11:28 PM
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9. The shared vision for long-term cooperative action recognizes the strong link between adaptation
and mitigation as well as the cross-cutting role played by financing, technology transfer and capacity-building.
Failure to implement ambitious and immediate mitigation actions by developed countries will
increase the need for adaptation in developing countries and therefore for financial support. At the same
time, increased financial support and technology transfer to developing countries will help these
countries in their implementation of NAMAs, reducing the risk of crossing tipping points that could
result in abrupt climate change.

------------------------

20. In order to fulfill this shared vision, Parties have agreed to establish a coherent, cohesive and
integrated system of financial and technology transfer mechanisms under the Convention and a follow
up/compliance mechanism. These institutions are robust and effective.



[link to wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693443
10/15/2009 11:31 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Sorry, I didn't see your post, but here's a video detailing...

snark Subscriber
User ID: 715321
10/15/2009 11:39 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

'Effin BUMP. For a PIN.
T For Texas, T For Tennessee!

[link to snarkista.mybrute.com]

The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
10/15/2009 11:39 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

WHAT IN THE FUCK!

TIME TO SOUND THE ALARMS EVERYONE!

i hear you now,but with a corrupt congress what can we do.its not we the people anymore it we the congress.i guess ill be on the losing side,whats new.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795158




Soros is the man behind the curtain pulling Obama's strings. If Soros says to sign it, Obama will sign it no matter what we do.

This is real "redistribution of wealth" but only ours and not that of the politicians.

Every day, it's some new horror! They are going to level the playing field globally so the slaves will all be equal. Been the game plan all along and the reason for the global warming hoax in the first place.

Remember Al GOre's Godfather was Armand Hammer the communist who was famous for trading with the enemy during the Cold War.
snark Subscriber
User ID: 715321
10/15/2009 11:44 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Truth about Soros. This is way more important than balloon boy and his famewhoring family.
T For Texas, T For Tennessee!

[link to snarkista.mybrute.com]

The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
The_Tauremini
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10/15/2009 11:53 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Mods, please pin this thread.

Thank you,
-T
-Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
10/15/2009 11:56 PM
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bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795061 (OP)
10/15/2009 11:57 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Sorry, I didn't see your post, but here's a video detailing...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693443


Wow thanks for the vid. This is REAL folks!

SPREAD THE WORD ALL OVER THE INTERNET.
Anonymous Coward
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10/15/2009 11:59 PM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

'Effin BUMP. For a PIN.
 Quoting: snark


Post this story all over the net snarky.
Email it to Glenn Beck.
GLP EFFECT!

flag waver
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693443
10/16/2009 12:03 AM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Sorry, I didn't see your post, but here's a video detailing...




Wow thanks for the vid. This is REAL folks!

SPREAD THE WORD ALL OVER THE INTERNET.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795061

thumbs cheers
Eagle Eye
User ID: 795180
10/16/2009 12:04 AM
Re: OBAMA POISED TO CEDE US SOVEREIGNTY, CLAIMS BRITISH LORDQuote

Has anyone read this? This is scary!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772130


We've known about this for a couple of YEARS, already. You can't stop what's happening. They WILL have a global, one-world government. Actually if you haven't read the book of Daniel, you should because it tells everything there is to know about it.
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